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RB/WR Ty Montgomery, NE (1 Viewer)

ATB said:
He's the greatest QB possibly over. Could certainly argue the most gifted. He has surpassed Favre and will be THE legend in Green Bay for decades and decades.
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No to all of that. Not the best QB ever, not the best Packers QB ever, and not the most gifted QB ever. Are you his agent or something? He's got a lot to accomplish before any of those things are true, the best QB ever isn't even a conversation Rodgers belongs in. He's maybe in the top-3 of his era...maybe.

 
travdogg said:
No to all of that. Not the best QB ever, not the best Packers QB ever, and not the most gifted QB ever. Are you his agent or something? He's got a lot to accomplish before any of those things are true, the best QB ever isn't even a conversation Rodgers belongs in. He's maybe in the top-3 of his era...maybe.
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ETA: The only thing I'll agree with is that he wont be a bigger legend than Favre. for only one reason: Favre brought this franchise out of the gloomy years. The team was a mess and then he took over. Rodgers followed that, and although he will pass Favre in most categories, he will always be a guy who inherited an good franchise rather than made a good franchise

 
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Dr. Dan said:
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ETA: The only thing I'll agree with is that he wont be a bigger legend than Favre. for only one reason: Favre brought this franchise out of the gloomy years. The team was a mess and then he took over. Rodgers followed that, and although he will pass Favre in most categories, he will always be a guy who inherited an good franchise rather than made a good franchise
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I even disagree with that.  Rodgers has buried Farve with his play.

 
zed2283 said:
I even disagree with that.  Rodgers has buried Farve with his play.
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true. Favre had the benefit of a great defense and good supporting offense. Rodgers has had little support. Weve seen WRs move on and do nothing. weve also seen this team turn into the Cleveland browns without him

 
zed2283 said:
If Montgomery hadn't gotten hurt, you wouldn't even know who J.Williams or A.Jones are today.  He's a very good player who was being criminally underutilized and I hope the change of scenery does him a world of good (although I was hoping he'd finally land in a less-crowded situation).
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? ummmm.....well, that was really something. That's a special take right there.

 
Dr. Dan said:
true. Favre had the benefit of a great defense and good supporting offense. Rodgers has had little support. Weve seen WRs move on and do nothing. weve also seen this team turn into the Cleveland browns without him
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I don't really want to get into a Favre/Rodgers debate, since I can sense I'm clearly outnumbered preferring Favre, but the WR argument is no case for Rodgers. Guys like Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson have looked a heck of a lot better on new teams than guys like Antonio Freeman and Bill Schroeder did.

I'd also disagree with Rodgers having less support. Sure the 96-97 Packer teams were more loaded than anything Rodgers has had, but those mid 2000's Mike Sherman teams were much worse than anything Rodgers has ever had, so I think they've had pretty equal supporting casts overall. I'd say Rodgers had better coaching too. I mean again, Holmgren was great,  but he was only there for a part of Favre's career. Rodgers has had McCarthy, a decent coach, the entire time he's been starting. He never had anyone as bad as Rhodes or Sherman.

Lastly, I don't think Favre should be punished because Ron Wolf drafted better backups than Ted Thompson. I mean, Mark Brunell being less of a drop off than Brett Hundley shouldn't really be effect Favre or Rodgers standing.

 
travdogg said:
I don't really want to get into a Favre/Rodgers debate, since I can sense I'm clearly outnumbered preferring Favre, but the WR argument is no case for Rodgers. Guys like Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson have looked a heck of a lot better on new teams than guys like Antonio Freeman and Bill Schroeder did.

I'd also disagree with Rodgers having less support. Sure the 96-97 Packer teams were more loaded than anything Rodgers has had, but those mid 2000's Mike Sherman teams were much worse than anything Rodgers has ever had, so I think they've had pretty equal supporting casts overall. I'd say Rodgers had better coaching too. I mean again, Holmgren was great,  but he was only there for a part of Favre's career. Rodgers has had McCarthy, a decent coach, the entire time he's been starting. He never had anyone as bad as Rhodes or Sherman.

Lastly, I don't think Favre should be punished because Ron Wolf drafted better backups than Ted Thompson. I mean, Mark Brunell being less of a drop off than Brett Hundley shouldn't really be effect Favre or Rodgers standing.
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Sherman was a bad GM.  I'm not sure he was a bad coach -- and McCarthy is showing more and more that he is likely a below average coach.

 
zed2283 said:
If Montgomery hadn't gotten hurt, you wouldn't even know who J.Williams or A.Jones are today.  He's a very good player who was being criminally underutilized and I hope the change of scenery does him a world of good (although I was hoping he'd finally land in a less-crowded situation).
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Not really.  GB went into 2017 claiming he was their bell cow.  Monty failed miserably in that role.

hes a Swiss Army knife, not a heavy workload type player.

 
Not only is this guy a big talent upgrade over Javorius Allen, Collins better watch his snaps or 2-3 weeks from now he'll find himself back in the same split he was in before.

 
Ty Montgomery - RB -  Ravens

Ty Montgomery is active for Week 11 against the Bengals.

Sunday will mark his Baltimore debut. TyMont was a healthy scratch for Week 9 after the Ravens acquired him from Green Bay days earlier and Baltimore was on bye last week. He'll work as a receiving complement to early-down hammer Alex Collins. Montgomery's arrival in B-More will likely come at the expense of Javorius Allen.

Source: Baltimore Ravens on Twitter 

Nov 18 - 12:02 PM
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Value is on the rise. Looking like the go to receiving back to own here. 19 touches the last 2 weeks. 3 catches last week, up to 5 (on 7 targets) this week.

 
How Jets RB-WR Ty Montgomery Describes Adam Gase’s Offense

When Ty Montgomery signed with the Jets in April, he said head coach Adam Gase’s reputation as an offensive mind drove him to his new destination. After roughly two months with the team, Montgomery is enjoying his role in his new offense.

“You have to be smart,” he said of the running back position. “You have to be able to catch the ball and you have to be able to run the ball. You can’t have an imbalance and be at running back in this offense. It’s actually pretty cool, it’s challenging. I think it suits my abilities and I’m loving it.”

Following a bumpy 2018 season, the fifth-year player is excited for a fresh start and to let his play speak for itself while not looking too far down the road.

“I’m trying not to get ahead of myself, but I’m excited for what lies ahead,” he said. “I love being on this team, I love the guys on the team. We have a lot of fun every day, talking a lot of noise. Real, real competitive atmosphere, so it’s a lot of fun.”

Throughout the spring, Montgomery received the most reps with the first team when Le’Veon Bell was training in Florida, and the veteran RB-WR impressed his coaching staff with both his versatility and football IQ.

“He comes in and works really hard,” running backs coach Jim Bob Cooter said. “He’s a pro, he knows his way around the NFL. He’s a smart guy. He knows how to learn things and take them straight to the practice field and execute them. He’s able to line up inside, outside, all over the field. He’s been a good guy for me to have in the room to work with and for us to have as an offense.”

Despite wearing many hats in the backfield, Montgomery is particularly focused on learning the protections in the new offense. The Stanford product is familiar with learning new schemes as this will be his third NFL offense, and he’ll get where he needs to be brick-by-brick.

“I’m trying to win the day,” he said. “It’s something I learned in college — win the rep, win the down, win the practice, win the day. It’s one thing at a time every day, enjoy each moment. That’s just what I’m expecting from myself, just to enjoy each moment as long as I’m here and hopefully I can be here for a long time.”
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Brian Costello of the New York Post noted Ty Montgomery had a "strong spring."

The first-year Jet saw a big workload with Le'Veon Bell absent for most of OTAs. Costello feels Montgomery's versatility makes him a "good fit" in Adam Gase's offense and considers him the early favorite for kick returning duties in East Rutherford. The 26-year-old seems to be making the most of his opportunity with the Jets coming off frustrating tenures with Green Bay and Baltimore, though even if Montgomery cracks the 53-man roster, he'll just be fighting for scraps behind Bell.

SOURCE: New York Post

Jun 21, 2019, 3:35 PM ET
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Ty Montgomery said he is playing a hybrid role for the Jets.

Montgomery said new coach Adam Gase is not trying to define him as either a running back or a receiver. "He doesn’t seem to be trying to figure out whether I’m a running back or you’re a receiver," Montgomery said. "I feel like a true hybrid in this offense." Reportedly being used in multiple spots including split out as a receiver, Montgomery could end up getting more touches than expected, but it is unlikely he becomes fantasy-relevant behind Le'Veon Bell.

SOURCE: New York Daily News

Aug 8, 2019, 11:34 AM ET
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Anything to see here? I may pick him up as a late round lottery ticket, he was getting some plays (albeit week 1 preseason) and he could be an interesting play in that offense. If he is the safety valve, dumpoff player he could score some points.

 
JamieMurphy said:
Anything to see here? I may pick him up as a late round lottery ticket, he was getting some plays (albeit week 1 preseason) and he could be an interesting play in that offense. If he is the safety valve, dumpoff player he could score some points.
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They already have Bell one of the best receiving backs, and Crowder seemingly a good slot receiver. What gives? Probably Montgomery.

 
JamieMurphy said:
Anything to see here? I may pick him up as a late round lottery ticket, he was getting some plays (albeit week 1 preseason) and he could be an interesting play in that offense. If he is the safety valve, dumpoff player he could score some points.
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If you're in a PPR, he's probably worth a flier. And depending on the site you use, may even carry a dual position designation.

 
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Ty Montgomery rushed seven times for 36 yards and a touchdown in Thursday's preseason game against the Falcons.

The hybrid player was not targeted in the passing game. With the Jets resting Le'Veon Bell, Montgomery got the start and capped off the opening drive with a one-yard touchdown. His score featured an excellent cutback and bounce outside. Carving out standalone fantasy value behind Bell is going to be hard, but perhaps Montgomery's usage will be creative enough for it to happen.

Aug 15, 2019, 11:57 PM ET
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John Daigle‏ @notJDaigle

#Jets beats have been adamant about Ty Montgomery’s involvement in camp, and it showed sans Le’Veon Bell as the former played 16-of-16 first team snaps vs #Falcons, including lining up out wide in 10 personnel. Fantasy’s RB77 remains a late-round steal.

 
ESPN's Rich Cimini suggested Ty Mongomery could "share the load" with Le'Veon Bell early in the season.

Bell will surely have some rust to shake off after being kept under wraps during the preseason and not playing at all in 2018. With that in mind, it's fair to expect a reduced workload for Bell, at least while he dusts off the cobwebs early on. "It'll take time. I don't think it will be Game 1," said Todd Haley, Bell's former OC in Pittsburgh. "I think you have to set the bar a little lower to start." We've been through this before with Bell, who averaged a meager 3.46 yards per carry in the first three games of 2017 after holding out all of training camp. The Jets certainly aren't paying Bell to be a committee back, but don't be surprised if he's eased in coming off a nearly 20-month absence.

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SOURCE: ESPN.com

Aug 25, 2019, 9:35 AM ET
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I think I drafted Montgomery in nearly every dynasty league, but realistically, ball don't lie. He's a total mediocrity as a RB. Had a chance to start in GB. Failed. Had a chance to do something in Baltimore. Failed. Signed to a relatively cheap one year deal by NYJ. Anonymous in week 1. This is not a player that the league covets, or a guy who is likely to emerge as a starter in the future.

I have made very similar remarks a number of times before, but IMO he always had a higher ceiling as a slot WR than as a RB (his moves/quickness/elusiveness are just too poor to stand out at RB in the NFL), so I think it was ultimately a bad move to allow GB to convert him even though it has resulted in a reasonably long NFL career. I think he could've been a Cobb/Harvin type as a slot WR (not that good, but similar style as a catch-and-run threat).

I wish I had sold more shares when he had that flirtation with the starting job in GB. That was the peak of his NFL career. The only reason why he sticks on my rosters now is because I need emergency bye week depth in some places and I guess I still harbor some naive hope that somebody is going to use him as more of a pass-catching weapon than ball carrier.

 
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EBF said:
I think I drafted Montgomery in nearly every dynasty league, but realistically, ball don't lie. He's a total mediocrity as a RB. Had a chance to start in GB. Failed. Had a chance to do something in Baltimore. Failed. Signed to a relatively cheap one year deal by NYJ. Anonymous in week 1. This is not a player that the league covets, or a guy who is likely to emerge as a starter in the future.

I have made very similar remarks a number of times before, but IMO he always had a higher ceiling as a slot WR than as a RB (his moves/quickness/elusiveness are just too poor to stand out at RB in the NFL), so I think it was ultimately a bad move to allow GB to convert him even though it has resulted in a reasonably long NFL career. I think he could've been a Cobb/Harvin type as a slot WR (not that good, but similar style as a catch-and-run threat).

I wish I had sold more shares when he had that flirtation with the starting job in GB. That was the peak of his NFL career. The only reason why he sticks on my rosters now is because I need emergency bye week depth in some places and I guess I still harbor some naive hope that somebody is going to use him as more of a pass-catching weapon than ball carrier.
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He reminds me of former Browns WR Greg Little.

 
Ty Montgomery rushed three times for 25 yards and caught all three of his targets for 15 yards in the Jets' Week 2 loss to the Browns.

Montgomery's six touches were a distant second to Le'Veon Bell's 31 as the workhorse. Montgomery picked up most of his on the meaningless final drive down by 20 points. He remains nothing more than a pure handcuff with no standalone value.

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