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RBs to Exploit-Avoid Week 9 (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

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This week I did not even look at the point spreads and left them off the write ups. Just trying something different for a week. I feel like at times I have allowed Vegas to get in the way with what I am looking at in terms of stats and such.

Next couple weeks I will be on vacation and away so hopefully I will be back to pick this up week 11 or 12 which is Thanksgiving.





Tampa Bay (5-2) at Atlanta (5-2)

These two teams are squaring off in a battle for 1st place in the NFC South. The Bucs come in with a season ending injury to rookie DT Brian Price. He wasn’t exactly stopping the run anyways and has been in and out for the line up much of his rookie campaign but the Bucs can’t stop anyone rushing the ball anyways so it stand to reason that Turner should have a gigantic day this week. The bucs inability to stop the run will be their major undoing in this football game. The last guy to get excited when they were “5 dash 2” was Sam Wyche and the Bucs went on to finish 7-9. Kareem Morris thinks the Bucs are the best team in the NFL.

LaGarrette Blount – I say it all the time but it is worth repeating…don’t chase points. Atlanta is only giving up 95 yds rushing at home on the season. They have made major strides since their early season lack of run support on defense. Blount was impressive last week in the desert but if you are thinking 120 yds and 2 TDs this week you’re nuts. Blount and the Bucs will be bottled up pretty good this week.

Michael Turner – Bucs are allowing 165 yds rushing the last 5 games, not much else you need to know. The bucs are way ahead of schedule record wise and will probably look bad this weekend. A team that is not as good as their record would indicate(sorry Bucos) and Turner and Atlanta will have their way with them this weekend. Turner should be a top5 contender this week.

Final Score: Atlanta 30…Tampa Bay 16



Miami (4-3) at Baltimore (5-2)

Miami comes in allowing an avg of only 80 yds rushing the last week against GB, Pitt and CInci, not exactly chopped liver. They are 2-1 over those 3 weeks and some would argue they should be 3-0 with a better call form the refs a couple weeks ago. Still the Phins Nation(small country) must be feeling high winning some games that did not look like wins early in the season. They have a shot at 9 or 10 wins now but they are going to be put to the test in Baltimore coming off a bye week this week. The Ravens have allowed 127 and 132 yds the past 2 weeks against NE and Buff…something is not right in B-town right now.

Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams-Despite a decent match up these guys have a total of 2 TDs on the season. No way I can project them as good starts this week. Brown was quoted as saying the team has made no attempt to try and extend him beyond the season. I think he is keeping a stiff upper lip but his mind is elsewhere right now. These 2 guys will not be in Miami next year.

Ray Rice – Buff was a dud but people shouldn’t put too much stock in that game. Rice was pretty good the previous 2 weeks and Miami has allowed some rushing yards to better backs like Adrian Peterson in Minnesota. Rice might not be a strong start but he should be good for 12-15 in most PPR formats.

Final Score: Baltimore 24…Miami 16 (Look for the Ravens to pick off Henne and take one to the house)





Chicago (4-3) at Buffalo (0-7)

Lot of folks have Forte up sky high this week and understandably so…or maybe not so much. Buffalo is atrocious at rush defense. I told you last week 300 yds rushing was on the table for KC and they racked up about 275 so I wasn’t kidding. Buffalo is allowing 220 yds rushing the last 5 weeks and are dead last in rush defense. The problem is outside of Carolina where the Bears rolled up 200+ rushing, they are not a good running football team…not even close. So you run the risk that Forte has a mediocre day and while I think you have to start him I would not be projecting him top3 this week.

Matt Forte – Again, I understand why folks will start him for the reasons I went into above but I am not sold he is a lock this week. Sometimes teams will rear themselves up and show a little backbone. Chicago has not looked good in several weeks. Even though buffalo is 0-7 they are playing hard.

Fred Jackson – I start him and here is why. The bears are only giving up 3.6 ypc and you start saying “MOP are you crazy?”(We all know the answer to that) Seriously though the Bears are allowing 125+ on the ground the last 4 weeks. Did you know that Buffalo has avg 120 yds rushing their last 6 games? They are 9th in ypc on offense with 4.5 per clip. This is going to be one of the upsets this week.

Final Score: Buffalo 21…Chicago 20





New Orleans (5-3) at Carolina (1-6)

Carolina has avg 50 yds rushing on offense since their bye week…meouch! The saints meanwhile have allowed 41 to AZ, 42 to TB, 125 to Cle and the Browns are a decent rushing team, and then 108 to the Steelers and kept Mendenhall pretty bottled up last week. As long as NO does not turn the ball over I think you have to like them in a rout this week.

Ivory/Betts/Bush/Jones – Looks like Reggie bush is not ready so they wait till after the bye week for both him and Thomas. They won’t need them that much in this game. Ivory and Betts will hold the fort down 1 more week.

Stewart – I don’t like the panthers and I think New Orleans will get out in front of the m early. Maybe Stewart can catch them not looking once the game is out of control. Nothing shows that he will tear it up this week. If you roll the dice understand that you might get results like last week.

Final Score: New Orleans 28…Carolina 7





New England (6-1) at Cleveland (2-5)

Logan Mankins checks back in for the Patriots this week. The Pro Bowl Guard will try and get on the field asap but I would not expect him to play the entire game. The browns are playing hard and actually have done alright in rush defense. Allowing 165 to Atlanta and 140 to KC but outside of that the past 2 weeks they allowed 121 to the Steelers and 58 to New Orleans. The Patriots on rush offense have posted 119 against Miami, 127-Balt, and 122-MN last week so even though they have very subpar backs they keep rolling along. This team is starting to look a lot like the 2000 New England patriots that we kept saying couldn’t win and didn’t have the talent and were actually 2-4 at one point but they play as a team and they keep finding ways to win ball games.

BJGE – When he has over 15 carries he has games of 16-98-TD, 16-76-TD, 17-112-2TDs…and he has 6 TDs in his last 5 games. You own him, you gotta play him right now but understand he might also get 10-25 if things don’t go right. He is not a dual threat either with only 2 receptions on the season.

Danny Woodhead – He is avg about 13-14 PPG in PPR the last 3 weeks. He can be a nice flex option but I am not sold on inserting a guy that will only touch the ball maybe 10-12 times a game.

Peyton Hillis – His rush stats the past 3 weeks are 10/28, 12/41, and 16/69 with just 1 rushing TD over those 3 games. He does chip in as a receiver but he’ll have his work cut out for hi against New England. Certainly he should not be a top10 candidate this week.

Final Score: New England 20…Cleveland 17





New York Jets (5-2) at Detroit (2-5)

If you told me the Jets would outgain the Pack 350 to 237 yds on offense and lose 9-0 I would not have believed you. The Jets have lost to Balt 10-9 and GB 9-0…both of these games their defense played outstanding but they still have some inconsistencies on offense that prevent them from being a truly dominant team. The Lions have been up and down this year at rush defense but they have allowed an avg of 170 yds rushing per game against the NYG, PHI, and MN…I would look at LT and Greene as strong plays this week as the Jets are going to take their frustration out on Detroit this week.

LT – I want to say good start but traditionally he does very mediocre inside domes. I’m not saying bench him as I think the Jets will do well but he doesn’t have a lot of big games on his resume inside domes. Solid but nothing special this week.



Shonn Greene – I think he will have a surprise game this week. Last week I said one of these weeks he is going to win the battle and have better stats. I like him this week on the road and the fact the Jets offense is sputtering a bit. Maybe they get him involved and find a spark they need on the road. It’s a gamble but if you have bye week issues you might find some points in here. We can discuss this more below.

Jahvid Best - His dual threat should keep him in flex status at least.

Final Score: NY Jets 28…Detroit 20





San Diego (3-5) at Houston (4-3)

The problem for owners with San Diego RBs is all 3 of them eat parts of the pie. This is not a 1 back show although that is what many were led to believe before the season started. Houston is avg 150 yds on rush defense as of late, that does not bode well for them to hold serve at home this week. They played terrible coming off a bye week against Indy last week. This is a tough match up for Foster as San Diego has allowed 51 against NE and 65 last week against TN, both good teams.

Ryan Mathews – I would consider him for a flex spot right now.

Darren Sproles – 2 solid games the past 2 weeks posting 16 and 17 in PPR formats. So many injuries to their WR and TEs, maybe Sproles will just be lined up in the slot and turned loose.

Arian Foster – Not loving this match up but Houston needs to lean more on the running game right now.

Final Score: San Diego 28…Houston 27





Arizona (3-4) at Minnesota (2-5)

23 turnovers on the season for Arizona. 9 of them their last 2 games. Things look bleak in the desert and they are turning to Derek Anderson this week, puke! The Vikings are not in much better shape as they have no continuity between the front office, coaching staff, and the players. This is an ugly football game no matter how you slice it. I assume Favre will be starting? What a mess. Jared Allen will have 3 sacks this week, write it down.

Beanie Wells – Liked him last week, not liking him much this week.

Adrian Peterson – I’m sure he’s licking his chops after watching what Blount did a week ago. I am interested to see how the team responds. Wilf spoke to the team this week and they needed some assurance that everything is going to be OK. I would have feared mutiny or a total loss of discipline like what we saw in Dallas a week ago.

Final Score: Minnesota 18…Arizona 12





New York Giants (5-2) at Seattle (4-3)

Normally I heavily slant the Nest as home field advantage for the Seahawks and try not to get too caught up in the numbers however…last week I said I had some doubts about their rush defense and they were ripped apart for 239 yards by Oakland. The Giants in 3 of their last 4 games have racked up 189, 167, and 200 yds rushing. They are 4th in rush yards, 2nd in rush TDs, and 6th in yds per carry. They are a strong offensive team that only stops themselves with turnovers. On the flipside they have allowed a TOTAL of 185 yds rushing over their last 4 games!!! An avg of only 45 yds per game and other than a 1 yd Ward plunge in Houston they have not yielded a rushing TD to a major opposing RB their last 4 weeks. In many ways I doubt Tom Coughlin was looking for a bye week for these guys. They have been playing excellent football except for the turnovers which could play a huge part in Sunday’s game.

Ahmad Bradshaw – I wouldn’t sit him.

Brandon Jacobs – I wouldn’t start him.

Marshawn Lynch – Expect a very mediocre day as new york has been lights out in rush defense the last 4 games.

Final Score: New York 27…Seattle 17





Kansas City (5-2) at Oakland (4-4)

When was the last time these 2 teams played a meaningful football game. These teams are similar. They both have 2 pretty strong RBs, well KC has an edge but Bush is no slouch for Oakland. In fact these 2 teams might not need to attempt a pass all day. KC the last 3 games has allowed Foster to get 70/TDs, MJD 120 total/TD, then buffalo was able to rush for 137 last week but Fitzpatrick got some of those yards. I like the match up both ways. Oakland in 3 of their last 4 games has allowed 91-SD, 75-Den,a dn 47-Sea…but KC is a strong running team and I expect good numbers form them.

Jamaal Charles –Start him with confidence

Thomas Jones – Avg day but with bye weeks most will need to start him.

Darren McFadden – Has 335 yards and 4 TDs the past 2 weeks. Ride the wave.

Bush – 160 total yds and 2 TDs the last 2 games. Like Jones I think he will be avg but I don’t see Oakland blowing out KC so he might be

limited this week.

Final Score: Oakland 24…Kansas City 21 Things tighten up in the NFC West





Indy (5-2) at Philly (4-3)

The Colts could have a shopping cart with a mannequin’s arm attached to it and Manning would turn it into a Pro Bowl WR. They wheeled out Tamme, Garcon, White, and Hart Monday night and still managed to win convincingly. I think this week with Vick back and the Eagles coming off a bye week, add in Indy on a short week and I think you have the makings of a an impressive win for Philly this week. Manning vs Vick, all eyes that can watch this game will on Sunday. Both teams have been good against the run the past 3 weeks. Indy has been at least avg with 113-KC, 113-Was, and 108-Hou while Philly has 74-SF, 65-Atl, and 75-TN before their bye week.

Mike Hart and Joseph Addai – Likely out this week

Donald Brown – Was not great last week but he was feeling his way back on the field. I worry about his pass blocking but Indy doesn’t have much choice so look for brown to get carries and short passes when he is in the game. James is going to be active but as a UM fan for a very long time, I promise you he is nothing like Edge…NOTHING. I saw the thread dedicated to him in the SP, good luck with that folks.

LeSean McCoy – Should be getting over those cracked ribs. I don’t like huge numbers but he should be good for at least 75 total yds and a score.

Final Score: Philly 27…Indy 24





Dallas (1-6) at Green Bay (5-3)

Dallas is yielding an avg of 150 yds rushing the last 4 games. CJ-25 points, ADP-13 points, Bradshaw-13 points, same game Jacobs-13 points, MJD-14 points. Green Bay’s rush defense has not been very good either allowing 155 yds rushing on avg the last 3 weeks, but they did manage to slow down the Jets last week.

Felix and MB III – Match up looks better but they still are shooting holes in owners rosters. Risky is the words I would use to describe most Dallas skill position players at this point. Amazed Wade has a job.

Brandon Jackson – I like him this week. He had 19 @Wash, 11-MIA, 19-MN, and 9 @NYJ last week. He should be involved a lot in the offense.

Final Score: Green Bay 38…Dallas 17





Pittsburgh (5-2) at Cincinnati (2-5)

Here is what you need to know. The Steelers are awesome at shutting down the run even when they lose football games like last week and the week before…oh yeah they won that game. Cinci is allowing 4.5 ypc and their last 4 games they have allowed 116, 125, 153, and 137 yards on rush defense.

Mendenhall – Has been pretty subpar since Ben came back but look for him to have a nice performance on MNF. The Bengals are not very good at stopping the run and have had some injuries along their DL which further weakens them. Secondary is banged up too, they are in Barney this week.

Cedric Benson – He was great on the opening drive last week when Scott was being worked into the lineup too and then he went into the tank rest of the way and Scott never got another carry. I don’t like the offensive scheme right now.

Final Score: Pittsburgh 24…Cincinnati 16





And finally I want to dedicate this thread/write up to my good friend Jeff Tefertiller who most of you know from FBG. Jeff lost his father this past week. Jeff worked tirelessly to ensure his father lived comfortably these past few months as his health was ailing. I speak for many in the Shark Pool, our thoughts and prayers are with you friend.

 
I see the text is a bit off, not sure what happened. In the past I have tried to fiddle with it and it only makes it look worse. Ran it thru Notepad too before posting.

Cheers

 
Why wouldn't you start Jacobs? I have to imagine the Giants will run the crap out of the ball, and at the very least Jacobs should steal some goal line love in what should be a high scoring day for the Gmen.

 
Here's an interesting one for you MOP-

A banged up Beanie Wells -vs- Minnesota

or

An underwhelming Jonathan Stewart -vs- New Orleans

Who would you go with and why?

 
MOP - any thoughts on Willis Mcgahee or Mike Tolbert and how they affect your ratings above? These goal line vultures have been getting surprising number of carries lately, enough to cause some consternation...

 
I wait with excited anticipation for your write up each week. Thank you so much for all the work you put into it. Enjoy the next few weeks, but I will miss you! Thoughts & prayers to your buddy Jeff. I know how devastating it is to lose your Dad. ;)

 
Here's an interesting one for you MOP-A banged up Beanie Wells -vs- Minnesota orAn underwhelming Jonathan Stewart -vs- New OrleansWho would you go with and why?
Hey Herm, not sure if you've been in the weekly RB threads by MoP, but speaking from experience, he appreciates (as do all who read the thread) when you give your opinion, or at least lay out a few reasons for which direction you'd go to help generate some discussion (instead of making it a simple WDIS). In your situation, I'd probably roll with Stewart. He definitely disappointed last week but the Panthers usually play the Saints tough at home and Stewart has scored in each of the last 2 years in their home matchup against the Saints. Obviously, a big concern would be if the Saints get way out in front and the Panthers have to pass to try and get back in the game, but the Saints have really only had one blowout on the season. Wells might get a lion's share of the carries, but he's not exactly healthy coming into this one and he's going to need to show something in practice tomorrow to be ready to go Sunday (according to tweet from Kent Somers, AZ beat writer). I think the Cards are going to have a tough time moving the ball and with the game in MN, I don't like Wells to have much success.
 
Here's an interesting one for you MOP-A banged up Beanie Wells -vs- Minnesota orAn underwhelming Jonathan Stewart -vs- New OrleansWho would you go with and why?
Hey Herm, not sure if you've been in the weekly RB threads by MoP, but speaking from experience, he appreciates (as do all who read the thread) when you give your opinion, or at least lay out a few reasons for which direction you'd go to help generate some discussion (instead of making it a simple WDIS). In your situation, I'd probably roll with Stewart. He definitely disappointed last week but the Panthers usually play the Saints tough at home and Stewart has scored in each of the last 2 years in their home matchup against the Saints. Obviously, a big concern would be if the Saints get way out in front and the Panthers have to pass to try and get back in the game, but the Saints have really only had one blowout on the season. Wells might get a lion's share of the carries, but he's not exactly healthy coming into this one and he's going to need to show something in practice tomorrow to be ready to go Sunday (according to tweet from Kent Somers, AZ beat writer). I think the Cards are going to have a tough time moving the ball and with the game in MN, I don't like Wells to have much success.
OMG! All I can think of now is "The Herminator" bit from ESPN that was so awful. :lol:
 
Here's an interesting one for you MOP-A banged up Beanie Wells -vs- Minnesota orAn underwhelming Jonathan Stewart -vs- New OrleansWho would you go with and why?
Hey Herm, not sure if you've been in the weekly RB threads by MoP, but speaking from experience, he appreciates (as do all who read the thread) when you give your opinion, or at least lay out a few reasons for which direction you'd go to help generate some discussion (instead of making it a simple WDIS). In your situation, I'd probably roll with Stewart. He definitely disappointed last week but the Panthers usually play the Saints tough at home and Stewart has scored in each of the last 2 years in their home matchup against the Saints. Obviously, a big concern would be if the Saints get way out in front and the Panthers have to pass to try and get back in the game, but the Saints have really only had one blowout on the season. Wells might get a lion's share of the carries, but he's not exactly healthy coming into this one and he's going to need to show something in practice tomorrow to be ready to go Sunday (according to tweet from Kent Somers, AZ beat writer). I think the Cards are going to have a tough time moving the ball and with the game in MN, I don't like Wells to have much success.
No problem at all (I was planning to wait until MOP or someone responded to indicate where I was leaning, but now is as good a time as any!). I am leaning towards Beanie, for no other reason than I absolutely can't trust Stewart right now. My main concern with Stewart and the Panthers is they will fall behind quickly and essentially render Stewart useless, as they have shown the propensity to quickly get away from the run. However, I do live in Minnesota and with all the chaos going around right now, I expect the team to come out and put up a very solid effort against a weak Cardinals team, meaning Beanie could find some very tough sledding.
 
Why wouldn't you start Jacobs? I have to imagine the Giants will run the crap out of the ball, and at the very least Jacobs should steal some goal line love in what should be a high scoring day for the Gmen.
+1I have both Jacobs and Bradshaw on one team and I'm considering starting both. Jacobs has 5 TDs in the last 4 games and, as Ministry points out, Seattle was just gashed for over 200 yds on the ground.
 
MOP - any thoughts on Willis Mcgahee or Mike Tolbert and how they affect your ratings above? These goal line vultures have been getting surprising number of carries lately, enough to cause some consternation...
I have Ray Rice and Matthews and I have been very consterned with those vultures.

 
+1 to vultures. I have MJD on bye and I'm considering starting tolbert + mathews alongside bradshaw for flex. I figure the chargers have 0 wrs right now

 
Why wouldn't you start Jacobs? I have to imagine the Giants will run the crap out of the ball, and at the very least Jacobs should steal some goal line love in what should be a high scoring day for the Gmen.
+1I have both Jacobs and Bradshaw on one team and I'm considering starting both. Jacobs has 5 TDs in the last 4 games and, as Ministry points out, Seattle was just gashed for over 200 yds on the ground.
Yep, Seattle was without three of its starters on the d-line for most of the game (Mebane, Cole, and Bryant). Mebane may possibly play this weekend, and he really is the guy that makes their run D work. He was out the last three weeks basically, and they have suffered tremendously because of it. Bryant got IRed and Cole will be out a few weeks as well. Without these guys (who weigh a combined 1000 lbs almost between them) start anyone and everyone you can against them. At this point, with Whitehurst starting, BMW hurt and possibly out, this game could turn ugly really quick, so it may not even matter if Mebane plays. I expect Jacobs to get a lot of work.
 
Greene had 6 carries last week. I'm not understanding the love.
1) the Lions



2) I'm pretty sure Rex Ryan will try to keep the ball away from Sanchez this week
Time and time again, Schottenheimer has proven to do the opposite of what should be done. Logic dictated a heavy run strategy last week, but that didn't play out. I wouldn't bank on it again, although that should be the Jets strategy every week. By the way, Sanchez wasn't good last week, but his receivers dropped like 6 wide open passes and had two more taken out of their hands.
 
I would just like to commend you on your change of font. For a longer post, its easy on the eyes.

 
Here's an interesting one for you MOP-A banged up Beanie Wells -vs- Minnesota orAn underwhelming Jonathan Stewart -vs- New OrleansWho would you go with and why?
Hey Herm, not sure if you've been in the weekly RB threads by MoP, but speaking from experience, he appreciates (as do all who read the thread) when you give your opinion, or at least lay out a few reasons for which direction you'd go to help generate some discussion (instead of making it a simple WDIS). In your situation, I'd probably roll with Stewart. He definitely disappointed last week but the Panthers usually play the Saints tough at home and Stewart has scored in each of the last 2 years in their home matchup against the Saints. Obviously, a big concern would be if the Saints get way out in front and the Panthers have to pass to try and get back in the game, but the Saints have really only had one blowout on the season. Wells might get a lion's share of the carries, but he's not exactly healthy coming into this one and he's going to need to show something in practice tomorrow to be ready to go Sunday (according to tweet from Kent Somers, AZ beat writer). I think the Cards are going to have a tough time moving the ball and with the game in MN, I don't like Wells to have much success.
Well done. Way to help without being the SP police.
 
Why wouldn't you start Jacobs? I have to imagine the Giants will run the crap out of the ball, and at the very least Jacobs should steal some goal line love in what should be a high scoring day for the Gmen.
+1I have both Jacobs and Bradshaw on one team and I'm considering starting both. Jacobs has 5 TDs in the last 4 games and, as Ministry points out, Seattle was just gashed for over 200 yds on the ground.
I'm with you on this one Hank. I posted this exact question in the AC forum, but didn't get any responses. I think starting both is a very viable option this week, and I'm actually going to start Jacobs over Best this week, as Jacobs is getting GL and increasing # of touches.
 
+1 to vultures. I have MJD on bye and I'm considering starting tolbert + mathews alongside bradshaw for flex. I figure the chargers have 0 wrs right now
All four of the Chargers backs get touches. Granted Hester only averages around 3 per game, but he gets something every week. Sproules is good for 8-10 touches (mostly passes), and Tolbert has TDs in 5 straight games (and 7 in his last 7). Everyone keeps wanting/hoping to annoint Matthews but will the breakout game ever come? Not if Tolbert gets 15 touches again like he did last week.Unlike the two-headed monster in Detroit or Miami, the Chargers committee can be FF starters - in fact I would say all three of them in PPR formats.
 
And finally I want to dedicate this thread/write up to my good friend Jeff Tefertiller who most of you know from FBG. Jeff lost his father this past week. Jeff worked tirelessly to ensure his father lived comfortably these past few months as his health was ailing. I speak for many in the Shark Pool, our thoughts and prayers are with you friend.
Very classy - Best wishes to Jeff and his family.Have a good vacation MOP. :fishing:
 
You're thinking too much about Hillis. He's their whole offense with McCoy behind center and it's not like NE is the Steelers or anything. If you're predicting a 20-17 game, a 2 weeks to heal Hillis has gotta get 100+ total yards and a good shot at a TD?

 
Great post as always.

So according to this I should be starting Jackson over Forte at RB2 on my team this week? That makes me nervous but so do the Bears.

 
MOP:

Stay with this format, it works well, font is very easy to read. With both Gore and CJ out this week Im stuck with B. Jacobs and 3 WRs, but I'm thinking he has a really good game against SEA. Agree with all the other previous comments in that regard.

-Best wishes to Jeff and his family.

 
Why wouldn't you start Jacobs? I have to imagine the Giants will run the crap out of the ball, and at the very least Jacobs should steal some goal line love in what should be a high scoring day for the Gmen.
Jacobs is not the primary ball carrier. You run the risk of a zero if e doesn't hit paydirt. Is he going to score a TD and run for 50 yds every week?
 
MOP, nice work as always.. here's a few to chew on.

PHI game. I agree with the LeSean points, I think what might be interesting is what Vick's numbers are this week... I wouldn't be surprised to see Vick have more rushing yards than McCoy this week.... something to watch.

As for the BUF-CHI game.. I think Forte may be a better start over Jackson and here's why. From a rushing perspective, Jackson has had 20/64 and 23/73, compared to Forte 10/41 and 8/11. Jackson has been getting more touches, but the YPC haven't been as effective. Jackson is avg'ing 3.1 YPC, the avg for BUF is being helped by Spiller(6/17 and 7/33) and Fitzpatrick (6/43 and 4/20). Spiller's YPC is 3.8 and Fitzpatrick is 6.3. While I don't see Fitzpatrick getting more carries, I can see an argument starting to give Spiller upwards of 10 carries and thereby reducing Jackson to the 15-20 range.

I agree CHI is HORRIBLE in the rushing area. The thing with Forte though is his receptions and screens have the potential to go the distance with his speed. At this point, I have to think CHI goes in planned for this meeting and will seek to exploit the BUF defense in the short passing screens to the RBs. To me, this upside gives Forte the nod over Jackson. If anything, I am thinking Forte has the potential to have another huge week here.

My 2 cents....

 
Why wouldn't you start Jacobs? I have to imagine the Giants will run the crap out of the ball, and at the very least Jacobs should steal some goal line love in what should be a high scoring day for the Gmen.
+1I have both Jacobs and Bradshaw on one team and I'm considering starting both. Jacobs has 5 TDs in the last 4 games and, as Ministry points out, Seattle was just gashed for over 200 yds on the ground.
I'm with you on this one Hank. I posted this exact question in the AC forum, but didn't get any responses. I think starting both is a very viable option this week, and I'm actually going to start Jacobs over Best this week, as Jacobs is getting GL and increasing # of touches.
I don't feel as comfortable with Bradshaw this week as some. Seattle may have a lot of injuries, but they seem to be a totally different team at home vs on the road. :lmao:
 
Why wouldn't you start Jacobs? I have to imagine the Giants will run the crap out of the ball, and at the very least Jacobs should steal some goal line love in what should be a high scoring day for the Gmen.
Jacobs is not the primary ball carrier. You run the risk of a zero if e doesn't hit paydirt. Is he going to score a TD and run for 50 yds every week?
Nope, just one week more, that's all I need. The last 4 weeks he's averaging 9 carries, 53 yards, and a score, that good enough for me, with my trio of WRs (Nicks, White, Jennings). I thnk it'll be a blowout, so he should see even a bit more action than he has over the last month. Only other option is Ri. Williams, thats not happening.
 
LaGarrette Blount – I say it all the time but it is worth repeating…don’t chase points I sense some angst here... Last week you predicted he wouldn't get manny carries. Did you miss out on Blount?

Fred Jackson – Did you know that Buffalo has avg 120 yds rushing their last 6 games? They are 9th in ypc on offense with 4.5 per clipThese numbers are completely skewed by Fitzpatrick who is second on the team in rushing and has a 7.2 yd per carry avg. Jackson has a 4.0 Spiller has a 4.1

Otherwise typical nice writeup

 
Assuming you had to choose between Arian Foster and Bradshaw, who would you pick?

I love both and Foster is my clear cut starter, but I can't ignore the tasty match up Bradshaw has against Seattle and the tough match up Foster has against the Chargers. I am a big fan of always starting your best players, but this is a tough call.

Any thoughts?

And yes, I am fortunate enough to also have Peterson, so he is my #1 this week. Don't ask about my WR's....

 
Assuming you had to choose between Arian Foster and Bradshaw, who would you pick?I love both and Foster is my clear cut starter, but I can't ignore the tasty match up Bradshaw has against Seattle and the tough match up Foster has against the Chargers. I am a big fan of always starting your best players, but this is a tough call.Any thoughts?And yes, I am fortunate enough to also have Peterson, so he is my #1 this week. Don't ask about my WR's....
Seattle on the road isnt that great of a rushing matchup, according to the numbers.
 
In my dynasty league I have AP, Turner, and McFadden all going this week. Sucks to have to sit any of them, but I agree that Turner is looking at an absolute field day this week. Think I will have to sit McFadden since no one in my league trades.

 
I haven't read this line of threads religiously from week to week, but from the times i have read i do not remember Peyton Hillis being green even 1 time. In fact, I remember the author being down on Hillis. Is there ever going to be a time when you're bullish on a RB who is a top 10 RB this season despite not getting a full load of carries earlier in the year? I mean, at least once you would think his name would be in green?

You have similarily been down on Torain and Blount, again, purely based on memory. It seems you don't appreciate these big backs who are waiver wire fodder at the beginning of the year. Am I right?

I love these type of backs, because not only are they premier RBs in good systems, but they are goal line backs as well. Touchdown magnets. Perhaps it is my leagues, which are all TD heavy leagues. Either way, they just seem to be underestimated on this thread.

 
Nobody's perfect. The staff here had Jonathan Stewart ranked as the #4 RB last week.

MOP, if you want someone to pinch hit for you I volunteer.

 
I always read MOP threads. But I gotta admit the last few weeks MOP seem lazy with his explainations. They almost seem judgamental than factual. Although I understand that you are offering your own opinions on matchups. Your opinions seem more biased than constructive. I'm gonna take a break from reading your threads MOP. Maybe in a few weeks when you get back on your feet I will read them again.

 
I always read MOP threads. But I gotta admit the last few weeks MOP seem lazy with his explainations. They almost seem judgamental than factual. Although I understand that you are offering your own opinions on matchups. Your opinions seem more biased than constructive. I'm gonna take a break from reading your threads MOP. Maybe in a few weeks when you get back on your feet I will read them again.
Looking forward to your weekly RB thread..
 
I always read MOP threads. But I gotta admit the last few weeks MOP seem lazy with his explainations. They almost seem judgamental than factual. Although I understand that you are offering your own opinions on matchups. Your opinions seem more biased than constructive. I'm gonna take a break from reading your threads MOP. Maybe in a few weeks when you get back on your feet I will read them again.
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steelwind said:
I always read MOP threads. But I gotta admit the last few weeks MOP seem lazy with his explainations. They almost seem judgamental than factual. Although I understand that you are offering your own opinions on matchups. Your opinions seem more biased than constructive. I'm gonna take a break from reading your threads MOP. Maybe in a few weeks when you get back on your feet I will read them again.
I was going to post the same but I did not want to seem controversial but since you said it ... I agree seems lazy and biased lately
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Why wouldn't you start Jacobs? I have to imagine the Giants will run the crap out of the ball, and at the very least Jacobs should steal some goal line love in what should be a high scoring day for the Gmen.
Jacobs is not the primary ball carrier. You run the risk of a zero if e doesn't hit paydirt. Is he going to score a TD and run for 50 yds every week?
Not every week. But against a team that is missing its d-line and just got gashed the previous week? Yes, I'd play Jacobs over quite a few other options. Jacobs gets work at the goal line. I see no way the Giants won't have many goal line trips. I won't play him every week...but if you can't play him this week you must have some pretty great options as this is about as good as it gets.
 
steelwind said:
I always read MOP threads. But I gotta admit the last few weeks MOP seem lazy with his explainations. They almost seem judgamental than factual. Although I understand that you are offering your own opinions on matchups. Your opinions seem more biased than constructive. I'm gonna take a break from reading your threads MOP. Maybe in a few weeks when you get back on your feet I will read them again.
I hate judgamental posts!Cmon, MOP is solid, love the thread as it generates a lot of meaningful discussion.MOP - thoughts on Woodhead this week? He seems like he is in a similar position to Sproles, as that RB/WR hybrid. Do you see either of these guys as flex worthy? or RB2 this week?
 
steelwind said:
I always read MOP threads. But I gotta admit the last few weeks MOP seem lazy with his explainations. They almost seem judgamental than factual. Although I understand that you are offering your own opinions on matchups. Your opinions seem more biased than constructive. I'm gonna take a break from reading your threads MOP. Maybe in a few weeks when you get back on your feet I will read them again.
I was going to post the same but I did not want to seem controversial but since you said it ... I agree seems lazy and biased lately
He's been doing this for three+ years runnning. Bound to get a little lazy some weeks. At least he's putting something out there reliably every week. As someone who has run community web sites and barely made enough to cover hosting, I applaud his commitment and perseverance.
 
New Orleans (5-3) at Carolina (1-6)Carolina has avg 50 yds rushing on offense since their bye week…meouch! The saints meanwhile have allowed 41 to AZ, 42 to TB, 125 to Cle and the Browns are a decent rushing team, and then 108 to the Steelers and kept Mendenhall pretty bottled up last week. As long as NO does not turn the ball over I think you have to like them in a rout this week. Ivory/Betts/Bush/Jones – Looks like Reggie bush is not ready so they wait till after the bye week for both him and Thomas. They won’t need them that much in this game. Ivory and Betts will hold the fort down 1 more week. Stewart – I don’t like the panthers and I think New Orleans will get out in front of the m early. Maybe Stewart can catch them not looking once the game is out of control. Nothing shows that he will tear it up this week. If you roll the dice understand that you might get results like last week. Final Score: New Orleans 28…Carolina 7
I would be very surprised if this is the outcome. The Saints had to come from behind to win 16-14 at home earlier this year.......and Jimmy was QB'ing the Panthers.Look at recent history and you know these games could go either way, and usually are close. I won't be starting Stewart because I have better options but I would not be surprised if he went over 100 with a TD.
 
Hey Steel and Quim/Qim,

I appreciate the criticism and I don't mind questions. But if you were to read the posts last week I was pretty worked up about Stewart being ranked so high. I warned most. I had people all but forcing me to try and make Felix Jones a green light which I wouldn't do. How did those situations work out for everyone? I am not always right but almost every time this year when I post "don't chase points" the RB that has a huge game the week before comes crashing back to earth or at least falling to the middle of the pack.

If the Bucs can walk into Atlanta and establish the run they are going to win the football game because Josh Freeman will have plenty of leeway to make plays at that point. I love that kid and think in another year or two he will be at least as good as McNabb was in his prime, maybe even better. Tampa Bay is on record as saying they wouldn't trade Freeman for Matt Ryan straight up as welll as many other GMs right now. But here's the thing...I don't think TB is going to win the football game this weekend, I don't think they will be able to establish the run, and I don't think they will be able to stop the run. Against good solid teams like Pitt and NO at home they were outscored 79-19...what's Atlanta coming off a bye week going to do to them after they went toe to toe with AZ in a 38-35 thriller? They are spent this week IMO. When you can't stop the run your sklil position guys are riding the pine for long periods of time. How many carries do you really believe Blount is going to get? I would put the number at somewhere in the 12-15 range tops because TB is not going to be closing the game out. When they fall behind 14-3 they are going to take to the air. Everytime a RB has a surprise game the Shark Pool or folks that post think they have find buried pirate's treaure. When a back up QB comes into the game we all hit the :yes: button but when it's a RB and in this case the RB3 really then we start :thumbup:

And as far as being lazy I understand why you are saying that but it has nothin to do with my OP. I type up about 7-10 pages in MS Word every week. Each week I do a mini term paper and there isn't a lot of double spacing going on. It takes me several hours just to gather up stats, facts, and ideas so I can formulate what I want to put down on paper. All in all I think it probably takes a minimum of 6-8 hours to complete one of these. I don't do it for money I never have, I don't do it to look like a genius cause usually I don't, I do it because I like this place and the posters in general. Even when folks think I'm mad and bothered I really am not. Even the hawks are gracious enough to let me post over at the cag:e: and invite me to some different threads and games in the FFA. All in all I think I get treated rather well in here.

What I have't done much of the past few weeks is post a lot after I am done with the OP. Mainly because this is not a WDIS thread and I look for others to answer questions that different folks have. I post enough in the OP, no need to post another 29 of them in the thread. Many times when people ask questions I feel the awnswer is already there but I also want people to think for themselves some fo the time. Now when I see outrageous proclamations and projections I tend to speak up but I also am entertained by some of the logic that is produced.

If you don't feel like reading the thread that is your choice. I don't mind the criticism but it's easier to swallow if I know what you all are thinking as well. I can put up Blount's numbers but TB RBs most of the season have left owners with a warm feeling that use them. It was Kareem Huggins for a little while, then Blount who disappointed majorly the 1st time out earlier in the season. He had a good game last week, terrific. But when I see someone say "premier" back in an elite system (COUGH COUGH) we have different definitions of the terms premier and elite when it comes to RBs.

I do wish you the best of luck this weekend. Maybe we can debate a few more players. I welcome the feedback and maybe other folks feel as you do.

 
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Peyton Hillis – His rush stats the past 3 weeks are 10/28, 12/41, and 16/69 with just 1 rushing TD over those 3 games. He does chip in as a receiver but he’ll have his work cut out for hi against New England. Certainly he should not be a top10 candidate this week.

I would like the critics to share where you even get this pasted next to a guy's projections or ranking week in and week out. I don't rank guys 1 thru 50 because 1st of all that would just be doing what FBG already does, 2nd it really doesn't tell you anything. I say Hillis won't be a top 10 this week because I believe when I open my MFL stat sheet on Monday and hit week 9 from top to bottom that Hillis will not be top10.

About every RB outside the top10-12 down to about 25+ is separated by just a few points. Look it up and tell me I'm wrong. That is why I have him bolded in black. I didn't paste him in red which is where I typically will put someone if I think they won't even crack the top20-25 or if it's a usual stud I think will have an especially bad day like I did with Chris Johnson once or twice this year.

Maybe I need to refresh why this thread is done but it's to stimulate debate and discussion about different RBs. I understand most owners don't have their choice every week who to start but I compete in about 10+ leagues and almost all these guys are on a roster somewhere as they are for many of you.

Cheers!

 

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