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LA Story is underrated as a Steve Martin flick.
i remember an interview with martin where he said based his character on hollywood producer joel silver.One of my favorite movie quotes is from Martin as Davis in Grand Canyon:"That's part of your problem: you haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered in the movies."I say this pretty frequently.
Druggie? Dammit. I didn't know. Is it marijuana? Or is it a real drug?####### love Steve Coogan, druggie though he may be.'jdoggydogg said:Loved this movie. Steve Coogan is the tops.'krista4 said:The Trip: Steve Coogan and Rob (?the other guy in Tristam Shandy) go on a foodie road trip through England. Absolutely, brilliantly hilarious. The only criticism is that the "relationship" part involving Coogan added nothing and should have been cut. 4/5
Yeah, Murphy has been in some bad movies. Although, just to prove that his star power is still there, I'm interested in seeing Tower Heist.Saw it around when it came out, then caught it again a month or so ago. Totally forgot how good it really was, and honestly, Im not all that big of a Steve Martin fan (which is apparent since Ive only seen a handful of his movies).Hard to believe it was released in 1999 and both Martin and Eddie Murphy havent been in a better movie since and its not even close*'jdoggydogg said:Really liked Bowfinger. I've only seen it once, so I should revisit it and see how it holds up.'Kenny Powers said:I havent seen any of these (or The Jerk or Roxanne) and probably most of his other famous movies outside of Father of the Brides, but I think Bowfinger is awesome.For me, it's:1. Planes, Trains, and AutomobilesWe have azaleas in front of our house, and I can't ever hear that word without laughing.The Man With Two Brains
Probably the most underrated Steve Martin movie. Hilarious.MwTB is probably my third favorite Martin movie (after The Jerk and Roxanne), which is saying a lot considering how much great stuff he's done.
2. All of Me
3. The Man With Two Brains
*Disclaimer: Im not counting the Shreks for Murphy as I dont like comparing animated films to regular
Did you know that he recites that poem in two movies? Can you name the other?O pointy birds, o pointy pointy,Anoint my head, anointy-nointy.
Real stuff. Supposedly also had a big fling with Courtney Love, who later accused Coogan of having caused Owen Wilson's drug use and suicide attempt. Really.One interesting thing about The Trip is how they address his past drug use.Druggie? Dammit. I didn't know. Is it marijuana? Or is it a real drug?####### love Steve Coogan, druggie though he may be.'jdoggydogg said:Loved this movie. Steve Coogan is the tops.'krista4 said:The Trip: Steve Coogan and Rob (?the other guy in Tristam Shandy) go on a foodie road trip through England. Absolutely, brilliantly hilarious. The only criticism is that the "relationship" part involving Coogan added nothing and should have been cut. 4/5
Haven't seen it in years, but I enjoyed it the first time I watched it.LA Story is underrated as a Steve Martin flick.
Haven't seen it in years, but I enjoyed it the first time I watched it.LA Story is underrated as a Steve Martin flick.
Love this movie, too, especially having lived in LA.BTW, the movie is an edited version of the TV show.Real stuff. Supposedly also had a big fling with Courtney Love, who later accused Coogan of having caused Owen Wilson's drug use and suicide attempt. Really.One interesting thing about The Trip is how they address his past drug use.Druggie? Dammit. I didn't know. Is it marijuana? Or is it a real drug?####### love Steve Coogan, druggie though he may be.'jdoggydogg said:Loved this movie. Steve Coogan is the tops.'krista4 said:The Trip: Steve Coogan and Rob (?the other guy in Tristam Shandy) go on a foodie road trip through England. Absolutely, brilliantly hilarious. The only criticism is that the "relationship" part involving Coogan added nothing and should have been cut. 4/5
That sounds totally reasonable and not complete bull####Real stuff. Supposedly also had a big fling with Courtney Love, who later accused Coogan of having caused Owen Wilson's drug use and suicide attempt. Really.One interesting thing about The Trip is how they address his past drug use.Druggie? Dammit. I didn't know. Is it marijuana? Or is it a real drug?####### love Steve Coogan, druggie though he may be.'jdoggydogg said:Loved this movie. Steve Coogan is the tops.'krista4 said:The Trip: Steve Coogan and Rob (?the other guy in Tristam Shandy) go on a foodie road trip through England. Absolutely, brilliantly hilarious. The only criticism is that the "relationship" part involving Coogan added nothing and should have been cut. 4/5

Yes. I haven't seen the movie. I watched the series.BTW, the movie is an edited version of the TV show.Real stuff. Supposedly also had a big fling with Courtney Love, who later accused Coogan of having caused Owen Wilson's drug use and suicide attempt. Really.One interesting thing about The Trip is how they address his past drug use.Druggie? Dammit. I didn't know. Is it marijuana? Or is it a real drug?####### love Steve Coogan, druggie though he may be.'jdoggydogg said:Loved this movie. Steve Coogan is the tops.'krista4 said:The Trip: Steve Coogan and Rob (?the other guy in Tristam Shandy) go on a foodie road trip through England. Absolutely, brilliantly hilarious. The only criticism is that the "relationship" part involving Coogan added nothing and should have been cut. 4/5
A half hour into it I turned it off. Maybe I'll finish it but I was turned off by how much effort was put into making 'cool' stuff happen rather than on what should have been serious final movie.Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2:
Must say that I am disappointed in how this series wrapped up. Of course this one had more going on, but that is to be expected. The problem I had was that despite things going on, I had trouble feeling any emotional punch or even getting the sense that there were any stakes at all. I feel as though there was some backlash after Part 4 and Cedric, and after that they were afraid to show much. I know it's a series directed towards kids, but still. The whole battle at Hogwarts looked like a damn Transformers movie - I couldn't tell WTF was going on, there was just a lot of flashing lights. Still feels weird (yes, I will gripe about it more) that they spend more time on Dobby biting it than they do Dumbledore, or any of the wizards that we have known for 6 1/2 movies. The other action scene, Gringott's, looking like a bad Quidditch match that they smartly have stopped trying to show. I think the one thing they did a decent job of was showing Snape's flashbacks, but by that time I wasn't engaged in the movie. Overall, very disappointed in the lack of emotion in this movie. 5/10
This is me. Even though I'd admire what he's able to capture it loses me. I'd prefer to watch an entire visual film of his that had no story at all rather than how he juxtaposes story and imagery.Started my exploration of Malick's films today. 0 surprise that he was a philosopher first, as Badlands plays like a meditative Natural Born Killers. You know me and voice-overs, but here it works with Malick's meandering style. Honestly didn't know that it was based on the real life spree that spurned other films too. Interesting to see Spacek's wide eyed innocent take on things next to Sheen's seemingly pointless need for violence. I could easily see how people might get frustrated with Malick as he stops to show us buds on the trees, the insects, and everything else that catches his eye, but I was 100% engrossed and found it refreshing. I guess we will see if I find it refreshing after a couple more movies.![]()
What are other takes on the film, and would you say that this one ranks at the top of his films?
i like "dirty rotten scoundrels" but it's not much of a film. it's fun to see caine channeling david niven for some reason. i think "my blue heaven" is pretty terrible, honestly, and i don't remember "novocaine" beyond a general dislike for the film. not memorable in any way. "spanish prisoner" is a mamet film and the only actor who ever stands out in a mamet film is ricky jay. i like martin but he's made a bunch of really terrible movies over the last 20 or so years.Added to the Q. Also added Dirty Rotten Scoundrels and My Blue Heaven as Netflix had them at 4.5 stars for me.How are The Spanish Prisoner and Mixed Nuts?Forgot about Parenthood, like that a lot (as well as the current show based on it). Another good one was the indie dark comedy he was in from 2001, Novocaine.
ugh.I still love 24 Hour Party People and Tristam Shandy to death. Been wanting to see the trip- and even the wifey seems interested, so will do this next.Real stuff. Supposedly also had a big fling with Courtney Love, who later accused Coogan of having caused Owen Wilson's drug use and suicide attempt. Really.One interesting thing about The Trip is how they address his past drug use.Druggie? Dammit. I didn't know. Is it marijuana? Or is it a real drug?####### love Steve Coogan, druggie though he may be.'jdoggydogg said:Loved this movie. Steve Coogan is the tops.'krista4 said:The Trip: Steve Coogan and Rob (?the other guy in Tristam Shandy) go on a foodie road trip through England. Absolutely, brilliantly hilarious. The only criticism is that the "relationship" part involving Coogan added nothing and should have been cut. 4/5
Seems to me he's made a lot more good than bad and has turned in some fantastic cameos/smaller roles (Little Shop o Horrors). I would say that his good movies are never transcendent- but I'm fine with that.Don't get me started on Mamet. On Mamet, I don't want to start- so don't get me going there. Started. On Mamet.And I don't know why all my actor friends seriously love his work for the writing.i like "dirty rotten scoundrels" but it's not much of a film. it's fun to see caine channeling david niven for some reason. i think "my blue heaven" is pretty terrible, honestly, and i don't remember "novocaine" beyond a general dislike for the film. not memorable in any way. "spanish prisoner" is a mamet film and the only actor who ever stands out in a mamet film is ricky jay. i like martin but he's made a bunch of really terrible movies over the last 20 or so years.Added to the Q. Also added Dirty Rotten Scoundrels and My Blue Heaven as Netflix had them at 4.5 stars for me.How are The Spanish Prisoner and Mixed Nuts?Forgot about Parenthood, like that a lot (as well as the current show based on it). Another good one was the indie dark comedy he was in from 2001, Novocaine.

i think he had some great comedies but his output over the last 20-25 years has been pretty atrocious. "Sgt bilko"? "pink panther"? c'mon, all he is doing in those movies is trying to shine up a turd. this is the same guy that was in "all of me", "the mad with two brains", "roxanne" (which is a great little film)and even "pennies from heaven". i think he can pull off cameos - like the one in "30 rock" - in his sleep. mamet gets a bad rap, i think. he's made his films but he's also capable of showing range. think of the comedy "state and main", for example. consider his "winslow boy" or even some like "redbelt". he's self-indulgent as a writer, of course, and that was never more on display the deliberately spare "spartan".Seems to me he's made a lot more good than bad and has turned in some fantastic cameos/smaller roles (Little Shop o Horrors). I would say that his good movies are never transcendent- but I'm fine with that.Don't get me started on Mamet. On Mamet, I don't want to start- so don't get me going there. Started. On Mamet.And I don't know why all my actor friends seriously love his work for the writing.![]()
My son loves the Harry Potter books to death. But he's not a fan of the movies. Too much fluff.ugh.I still love 24 Hour Party People and Tristam Shandy to death. Been wanting to see the trip- and even the wifey seems interested, so will do this next.Real stuff. Supposedly also had a big fling with Courtney Love, who later accused Coogan of having caused Owen Wilson's drug use and suicide attempt. Really.One interesting thing about The Trip is how they address his past drug use.Druggie? Dammit. I didn't know. Is it marijuana? Or is it a real drug?####### love Steve Coogan, druggie though he may be.'jdoggydogg said:Loved this movie. Steve Coogan is the tops.'krista4 said:The Trip: Steve Coogan and Rob (?the other guy in Tristam Shandy) go on a foodie road trip through England. Absolutely, brilliantly hilarious. The only criticism is that the "relationship" part involving Coogan added nothing and should have been cut. 4/5
oh- we saw the last Harry Potter movie on demand the other night. KP is dead on the money with his review. Less CG battles and more emotional development of the "bad" guys going good would have made a better movie, IMO.
I love Mamet, but of course I agree about the dialogue. I'm not sure why you don't like the writing. Watch Glenngarry Glen Ross and get back to me.Seems to me he's made a lot more good than bad and has turned in some fantastic cameos/smaller roles (Little Shop o Horrors). I would say that his good movies are never transcendent- but I'm fine with that.Don't get me started on Mamet. On Mamet, I don't want to start- so don't get me going there. Started. On Mamet.And I don't know why all my actor friends seriously love his work for the writing.i like "dirty rotten scoundrels" but it's not much of a film. it's fun to see caine channeling david niven for some reason. i think "my blue heaven" is pretty terrible, honestly, and i don't remember "novocaine" beyond a general dislike for the film. not memorable in any way. "spanish prisoner" is a mamet film and the only actor who ever stands out in a mamet film is ricky jay. i like martin but he's made a bunch of really terrible movies over the last 20 or so years.Added to the Q. Also added Dirty Rotten Scoundrels and My Blue Heaven as Netflix had them at 4.5 stars for me.How are The Spanish Prisoner and Mixed Nuts?Forgot about Parenthood, like that a lot (as well as the current show based on it). Another good one was the indie dark comedy he was in from 2001, Novocaine.![]()
I am a big Mamet fan. I've seen almost all his important films, and Spanish Prisoner is pretty much the only film I didn't enjoy.i think he had some great comedies but his output over the last 20-25 years has been pretty atrocious. "Sgt bilko"? "pink panther"? c'mon, all he is doing in those movies is trying to shine up a turd. this is the same guy that was in "all of me", "the mad with two brains", "roxanne" (which is a great little film)and even "pennies from heaven". i think he can pull off cameos - like the one in "30 rock" - in his sleep. mamet gets a bad rap, i think. he's made his films but he's also capable of showing range. think of the comedy "state and main", for example. consider his "winslow boy" or even some like "redbelt". he's self-indulgent as a writer, of course, and that was never more on display the deliberately spare "spartan".Seems to me he's made a lot more good than bad and has turned in some fantastic cameos/smaller roles (Little Shop o Horrors). I would say that his good movies are never transcendent- but I'm fine with that.Don't get me started on Mamet. On Mamet, I don't want to start- so don't get me going there. Started. On Mamet.And I don't know why all my actor friends seriously love his work for the writing.![]()
House of Games is Mamet's best work and a top 20 all-time movie for me. Its pretty much perfect.'saintfool said:i think he had some great comedies but his output over the last 20-25 years has been pretty atrocious. "Sgt bilko"? "pink panther"? c'mon, all he is doing in those movies is trying to shine up a turd. this is the same guy that was in "all of me", "the mad with two brains", "roxanne" (which is a great little film)and even "pennies from heaven". i think he can pull off cameos - like the one in "30 rock" - in his sleep. mamet gets a bad rap, i think. he's made his films but he's also capable of showing range. think of the comedy "state and main", for example. consider his "winslow boy" or even some like "redbelt". he's self-indulgent as a writer, of course, and that was never more on display the deliberately spare "spartan".'El Floppo said:Seems to me he's made a lot more good than bad and has turned in some fantastic cameos/smaller roles (Little Shop o Horrors). I would say that his good movies are never transcendent- but I'm fine with that.
Don't get me started on Mamet. On Mamet, I don't want to start- so don't get me going there. Started. On Mamet.
And I don't know why all my actor friends seriously love his work for the writing.![]()
You liked this a lot more than I did. I thought a good bit of the dialogue and drama seemed heavy handed, and that they didn't explain the business stuff enough (I had to pause the film to find out what some of the acronyms they used meant). I felt the writer of the film took the easy way out for a lot of the drama, but did the opposite for the business type stuff. Still thought it was a decent enough film, but definitely not great imo.Margin Call
Watched this afternoon while wife was doing first afternoon of jury duty selection.
Excellent cast, real drama, and timely, important subject matter. Spacey was, again, incredible. You'll feel dirty when you leave, but you will have just seen one of the best pictures this year. Just go see it. Don't worry a bit about it being too dry or cerebral or anything. It is extremely well done on several levels and one of the best endings to a film I've seen.
4.8/5 stars
Movies I see in the theater tend to get a higher rating from me, just because I cannot pause them, check my email, or answer one of a thousand rhetorical questions posed by my wife. Immersion is a good thing.You liked this a lot more than I did. I thought a good bit of the dialogue and drama seemed heavy handed, and that they didn't explain the business stuff enough (I had to pause the film to find out what some of the acronyms they used meant). I felt the writer of the film took the easy way out for a lot of the drama, but did the opposite for the business type stuff. Still thought it was a decent enough film, but definitely not great imo.Margin Call
Watched this afternoon while wife was doing first afternoon of jury duty selection.
Excellent cast, real drama, and timely, important subject matter. Spacey was, again, incredible. You'll feel dirty when you leave, but you will have just seen one of the best pictures this year. Just go see it. Don't worry a bit about it being too dry or cerebral or anything. It is extremely well done on several levels and one of the best endings to a film I've seen.
4.8/5 stars
True that. When watching a movie at home my OCD tendencies won't allow me to hear an acronym in a film like that and not go online to figure out what it means.Movies I see in the theater tend to get a higher rating from me, just because I cannot pause them, check my email, or answer one of a thousand rhetorical questions posed by my wife. Immersion is a good thing.You liked this a lot more than I did. I thought a good bit of the dialogue and drama seemed heavy handed, and that they didn't explain the business stuff enough (I had to pause the film to find out what some of the acronyms they used meant). I felt the writer of the film took the easy way out for a lot of the drama, but did the opposite for the business type stuff. Still thought it was a decent enough film, but definitely not great imo.Margin Call
Watched this afternoon while wife was doing first afternoon of jury duty selection.
Excellent cast, real drama, and timely, important subject matter. Spacey was, again, incredible. You'll feel dirty when you leave, but you will have just seen one of the best pictures this year. Just go see it. Don't worry a bit about it being too dry or cerebral or anything. It is extremely well done on several levels and one of the best endings to a film I've seen.
4.8/5 stars
Did you ahve an advance screening dvd? I just paid to see it in the theater three hours ago.True that. When watching a movie at home my OCD tendencies won't allow me to hear an acronym in a film like that and not go online to figure out what it means.Movies I see in the theater tend to get a higher rating from me, just because I cannot pause them, check my email, or answer one of a thousand rhetorical questions posed by my wife. Immersion is a good thing.You liked this a lot more than I did. I thought a good bit of the dialogue and drama seemed heavy handed, and that they didn't explain the business stuff enough (I had to pause the film to find out what some of the acronyms they used meant). I felt the writer of the film took the easy way out for a lot of the drama, but did the opposite for the business type stuff. Still thought it was a decent enough film, but definitely not great imo.Margin Call
Watched this afternoon while wife was doing first afternoon of jury duty selection.
Excellent cast, real drama, and timely, important subject matter. Spacey was, again, incredible. You'll feel dirty when you leave, but you will have just seen one of the best pictures this year. Just go see it. Don't worry a bit about it being too dry or cerebral or anything. It is extremely well done on several levels and one of the best endings to a film I've seen.
4.8/5 stars
I downloaded what claimed to be a blu-ray of the film, but looking at imdb the official blu-ray doesn't come out til next month. SoDid you ahve an advance screening dvd? I just paid to see it in the theater three hours ago.

Sad to see the series poop out like this. For me they peaked with movies 3 and 4 and have been declining since then. Just no emotion in the last one for me - another example that I thought was terrible:A half hour into it I turned it off. Maybe I'll finish it but I was turned off by how much effort was put into making 'cool' stuff happen rather than on what should have been serious final movie.Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2:
Must say that I am disappointed in how this series wrapped up. Of course this one had more going on, but that is to be expected. The problem I had was that despite things going on, I had trouble feeling any emotional punch or even getting the sense that there were any stakes at all. I feel as though there was some backlash after Part 4 and Cedric, and after that they were afraid to show much. I know it's a series directed towards kids, but still. The whole battle at Hogwarts looked like a damn Transformers movie - I couldn't tell WTF was going on, there was just a lot of flashing lights. Still feels weird (yes, I will gripe about it more) that they spend more time on Dobby biting it than they do Dumbledore, or any of the wizards that we have known for 6 1/2 movies. The other action scene, Gringott's, looking like a bad Quidditch match that they smartly have stopped trying to show. I think the one thing they did a decent job of was showing Snape's flashbacks, but by that time I wasn't engaged in the movie. Overall, very disappointed in the lack of emotion in this movie. 5/10
'jdoggydogg said:My son loves the Harry Potter books to death. But he's not a fan of the movies. Too much fluff.'El Floppo said:ugh.I still love 24 Hour Party People and Tristam Shandy to death. Been wanting to see the trip- and even the wifey seems interested, so will do this next.Real stuff. Supposedly also had a big fling with Courtney Love, who later accused Coogan of having caused Owen Wilson's drug use and suicide attempt. Really.One interesting thing about The Trip is how they address his past drug use.Druggie? Dammit. I didn't know. Is it marijuana? Or is it a real drug?####### love Steve Coogan, druggie though he may be.'jdoggydogg said:Loved this movie. Steve Coogan is the tops.The Trip: Steve Coogan and Rob (?the other guy in Tristam Shandy) go on a foodie road trip through England. Absolutely, brilliantly hilarious. The only criticism is that the "relationship" part involving Coogan added nothing and should have been cut. 4/5
oh- we saw the last Harry Potter movie on demand the other night. KP is dead on the money with his review. Less CG battles and more emotional development of the "bad" guys going good would have made a better movie, IMO.
He doesn't like that they removed some good parts while adding in noisy, ugly parts.'jdoggydogg said:My son loves the Harry Potter books to death. But he's not a fan of the movies. Too much fluff.'El Floppo said:ugh.I still love 24 Hour Party People and Tristam Shandy to death. Been wanting to see the trip- and even the wifey seems interested, so will do this next.Real stuff. Supposedly also had a big fling with Courtney Love, who later accused Coogan of having caused Owen Wilson's drug use and suicide attempt. Really.One interesting thing about The Trip is how they address his past drug use.Druggie? Dammit. I didn't know. Is it marijuana? Or is it a real drug?####### love Steve Coogan, druggie though he may be.'jdoggydogg said:Loved this movie. Steve Coogan is the tops.The Trip: Steve Coogan and Rob (?the other guy in Tristam Shandy) go on a foodie road trip through England. Absolutely, brilliantly hilarious. The only criticism is that the "relationship" part involving Coogan added nothing and should have been cut. 4/5
oh- we saw the last Harry Potter movie on demand the other night. KP is dead on the money with his review. Less CG battles and more emotional development of the "bad" guys going good would have made a better movie, IMO.![]()
Good on him to figure this out at a young age.
Showing mundane stuff is more of a Kubrick trait than a 70's trait IMO.2001: A Space Odyssey
Really well made especially for being a 1968 film. I liked it, just wish it wasn't so long. This movie doesn't need to be 2hrs 20 min. My only complaint is that same one I have for most '60s and '70s movies I've seen. Too much time is spent on watching people just walk around or doing mundane activities that aren't essential to the plot, it happens in this movie and The French Connection is another that comes to mind where it happens too. I understand they want to show the futuristic technology in this movie but they repeat the same activities like showing people eating space food, or just walking around. FOr example, video phones, cool concept in 1968, don't need both scenes where the technology is used, the one where someone wishes their daughter happy birthday and the other where the parents wish their son happy birthday.
The outer space effects were great and realistic, but I began to dread them because they moved so slow and they'd show the entire flight, with no cuts to speed it along. I thought, "Oh crap, this is going to take forever" when I saw how far the astronaut planned to spacewalk from the pod to the antenna. It seemed like it took 7-10 minutes of just watching the guy float to the antenna in that scene. A big part why some of this seems slow might be that spaceflight and the technology aren't as impressive and are more familiar to us today as they would have been in 1968.
Fast forward through the mundane parts would cut the run time by 30-40 minutes easy.
They did a great job of predicting the technology, we have versions today of a lot of what the film shows.
Could be, it's been a while since I've seen A Clockwork Orange, so I can't compare stylistic similarities. I don't recall feeling that Eyes Wide Shut felt slow, but that's a more modern film. The French Connection I recall that had needless scenes of people just walking somewhere, it's like filler. I've felt the same way about other '60s & '70s movies like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Harold and Maude, The King of Comedy, Lenny, Apocalypse Now and Network. Can't recall if Serpico did.Showing mundane stuff is more of a Kubrick trait than a 70's trait IMO.2001: A Space Odyssey
Really well made especially for being a 1968 film. I liked it, just wish it wasn't so long. This movie doesn't need to be 2hrs 20 min. My only complaint is that same one I have for most '60s and '70s movies I've seen. Too much time is spent on watching people just walk around or doing mundane activities that aren't essential to the plot, it happens in this movie and The French Connection is another that comes to mind where it happens too. I understand they want to show the futuristic technology in this movie but they repeat the same activities like showing people eating space food, or just walking around. FOr example, video phones, cool concept in 1968, don't need both scenes where the technology is used, the one where someone wishes their daughter happy birthday and the other where the parents wish their son happy birthday.
The outer space effects were great and realistic, but I began to dread them because they moved so slow and they'd show the entire flight, with no cuts to speed it along. I thought, "Oh crap, this is going to take forever" when I saw how far the astronaut planned to spacewalk from the pod to the antenna. It seemed like it took 7-10 minutes of just watching the guy float to the antenna in that scene. A big part why some of this seems slow might be that spaceflight and the technology aren't as impressive and are more familiar to us today as they would have been in 1968.
Fast forward through the mundane parts would cut the run time by 30-40 minutes easy.
They did a great job of predicting the technology, we have versions today of a lot of what the film shows.
You're hitting on the main reason that I don't like movies from that era myself.Although Apocalypse Now is supposed to be a "slow descent into madness", so that one gets a pass.Could be, it's been a while since I've seen A Clockwork Orange, so I can't compare stylistic similarities. I don't recall feeling that Eyes Wide Shut felt slow, but that's a more modern film. The French Connection I recall that had needless scenes of people just walking somewhere, it's like filler. I've felt the same way about other '60s & '70s movies like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Harold and Maude, The King of Comedy, Lenny, Apocalypse Now and Network. Can't recall if Serpico did. I don't get the same impression from movies before the '60s like 12 Angry Men, To Kill a Mocking Bird, Street Car named Desire, On the Waterfront, Harvey, Citizen Cane, Hitchcock films and The Maltese Falcon to name a few. I plan on watching more from this time, I'll see if it happens in those too. Dog Day Afternoon and Easy Rider are next.
no, i didn't either but i do remember it feeling all rather tedious.Could be, it's been a while since I've seen A Clockwork Orange, so I can't compare stylistic similarities. I don't recall feeling that Eyes Wide Shut felt slow, but that's a more modern film.
the 70's was the golden age of the director. studious gave directors a lot of leeway and most were pretty self-indulgent. they got to shoot on location. they got a more naturalized performance from the actors (thank you actor's studio!) but also did it with camera too. contrast that with the tightly control exerted by the studios for decades prior. the studio system was focused on getting people into the seats and keeping them happy.The French Connection I recall that had needless scenes of people just walking somewhere, it's like filler. I've felt the same way about other '60s & '70s movies like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Harold and Maude, The King of Comedy, Lenny, Apocalypse Now and Network. Can't recall if Serpico did.
I don't get the same impression from movies before the '60s like 12 Angry Men, To Kill a Mocking Bird, Street Car named Desire, On the Waterfront, Harvey, Citizen Cane, Hitchcock films and The Maltese Falcon to name a few.
I plan on watching more from this time, I'll see if it happens in those too. Dog Day Afternoon and Easy Rider are next.
I was 6 years old when this was originally released. My mom took me, I guess thinking it would be like Star Trek - something simple with a lot of action. Oops. I had no idea what was going on, really, so the long spacewalks and stuff was really the only thing I could hang onto.2001: A Space Odyssey
Really well made especially for being a 1968 film. I liked it, just wish it wasn't so long. This movie doesn't need to be 2hrs 20 min. My only complaint is that same one I have for most '60s and '70s movies I've seen. Too much time is spent on watching people just walk around or doing mundane activities that aren't essential to the plot, it happens in this movie and The French Connection is another that comes to mind where it happens too. I understand they want to show the futuristic technology in this movie but they repeat the same activities like showing people eating space food, or just walking around. FOr example, video phones, cool concept in 1968, don't need both scenes where the technology is used, the one where someone wishes their daughter happy birthday and the other where the parents wish their son happy birthday.
The outer space effects were great and realistic, but I began to dread them because they moved so slow and they'd show the entire flight, with no cuts to speed it along. I thought, "Oh crap, this is going to take forever" when I saw how far the astronaut planned to spacewalk from the pod to the antenna. It seemed like it took 7-10 minutes of just watching the guy float to the antenna in that scene. A big part why some of this seems slow might be that spaceflight and the technology aren't as impressive and are more familiar to us today as they would have been in 1968.
Fast forward through the mundane parts would cut the run time by 30-40 minutes easy.
They did a great job of predicting the technology, we have versions today of a lot of what the film shows.
it's two different movies in a lot of ways but, taken as a whole, i think it is a pretty fantastic film. what's your problem with the film?2001 is really not a good movie.
I don't think it has nearly as much to say as it thinks it does or as people have read into it over the years.The first part of the film, with ape-man, is pretty cool, but the rest is tedious.it's two different movies in a lot of ways but, taken as a whole, i think it is a pretty fantastic film. what's your problem with the film?2001 is really not a good movie.
i can see where you - especially you - could get that but i don't feel that way at all. it's very much a product of its time and of its director. i don't hold kubrick in as high regard as many others do but this is a landmark film, imo.I don't think it has nearly as much to say as it thinks it does or as people have read into it over the years.The first part of the film, with ape-man, is pretty cool, but the rest is tedious.it's two different movies in a lot of ways but, taken as a whole, i think it is a pretty fantastic film. what's your problem with the film?2001 is really not a good movie.
How so?i can see where you - especially you - could get that but i don't feel that way at all. it's very much a product of its time and of its director. i don't hold kubrick in as high regard as many others do but this is a landmark film, imo.I don't think it has nearly as much to say as it thinks it does or as people have read into it over the years.The first part of the film, with ape-man, is pretty cool, but the rest is tedious.it's two different movies in a lot of ways but, taken as a whole, i think it is a pretty fantastic film. what's your problem with the film?2001 is really not a good movie.
think about the sci-fi films that preceded it, for starters. it was a more ambitious, a more thoughtful and technically rich film that anything else. it tantalizes us with what the future could be and, given the era, that is keeping with the public's mood. it's great storytelling too.How so?
This is crazy talk. Not fun to watch I will give you, but it is a great film.2001 is really not a good movie.
I can agree that it was a fine technical film. Disagree that it was great storytelling.think about the sci-fi films that preceded it, for starters. it was a more ambitious, a more thoughtful and technically rich film that anything else. it tantalizes us with what the future could be and, given the era, that is keeping with the public's mood. it's great storytelling too.How so?
But we're saying two different things. When I say it's not a good movie, I mean it's not very fun to watch.But it is a great film because of the influence it's had through the years.This is crazy talk. Not fun to watch I will give you, but it is a great film.2001 is really not a good movie.
I'm completely the opposite. I really enjoyed the 2nd part and 3rd part, but thought the ape-man stuff was very tedious and way too long.Also, how is a movie being not fun to watch the equivalent to being bad film? There are tonnes of movies out there that aren't fun to watch but are outstanding.I don't think it has nearly as much to say as it thinks it does or as people have read into it over the years.The first part of the film, with ape-man, is pretty cool, but the rest is tedious.it's two different movies in a lot of ways but, taken as a whole, i think it is a pretty fantastic film. what's your problem with the film?2001 is really not a good movie.