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I don't know. I started Talk To Me, and I see an actor playing a 1970s guy. I don't believe him. I think when you look at the great modern actors (Benicio Del Toro, Ed Norton, Tim Roth, Daniel Day Lewis) I believe these guys and the roles you are playing. I hate to say it, but when I watch Cheadle act, he reminds me of ex-Saturday Night Live comic Tim Meadows.
I used to think Ben Stein was smart.
cheadle almost steals the show in that film. jennifer beals is luminous. i would be putty in her hands...
Fixed.
ho before bro, k4. he does have the best line in recent memory... "if you didn't want me to kill him, you shouldn't have left me alone with him..."
I thought it had a more similarities to Jacobs Ladder than Butterfly EffectI actually think its most similar to JL out of any of those 4, but DD and 12 Monkeys are good ones I didnt think of
The Jacket wasn't memorable to me. But there is no doubt that Adrian Brody is a fantastic actor.
I appreciate TD looking out for me but a little snark doesn't bother me. And yes it was a bit snarky. But I was wrong and I took it as all in good fun.Well, I wasnt tryin to be smug, just trying to kno what movie were talkin boutYou're correct that JS wasnt in The Condemned, but it was just that type of movie, so I guess I remembered Statham being in itYou corrected NCCommish and came off rather smug doing it...so I thought I'd return the favor.Jason Statham has been in some clunkers as of late (Transporter 2 and Crank) but he's solid in "The Bank Job" and I actually enjoyed Death Race for what it was.I like that point on QT, though I wouldnt call any of them has beens except for Russell, but he hasnt done many movies over the last 5 years or so either.(Jackie Brown is probably my favorite QT movie. He got perfection out of Samuel, DeNiro, Grier, Fonda, Forster, etc)
Bringing up Keanu only helps, bc hes just bad. I want to rent Street Kings, heard some good things, but he makes me hesitant.
As far as Statham goes, hah, he might be.
In all honesty, I looked at my DVDs at someone who wouldnt be considered a 'good' actor, and I came upon Snatch, and named Statham.
I agree he may be BW of this generation, but hes been in some pretty bad action movies lately (Condemned, Death Race, etc)
I dont know what you mean by "Condemned" though. I thought the movie with Steve Austin was entertaining, but Statham wasn't in it
Are you talking about Vinnie Jones by chance? He was in Snatch...so that's another option.
My BAD
Im sorry I make mistakes about decent actors in terrible movies
WHAT A COINCIDENCE
I have enjoyed The Rocks work. Rundown was lots of fun for example.
Watched this last night. Enjoyable. More "raunchier" than I thought it would be. Did not realize it was a Farelly brothers movie.#### ME!!!
I haven't seen Jacob's Ladder since middle school, when I was more than a little overwhelmed with it. I added it to my queue to be shipped today so I will report back by the weekend.and
I would give 5/5 to both Donnie Darko and 12 Monkeys as well. Probably 4.5 to Butterfly Effect.
Kevin Costner is the lead actor, nuff saidHavent seen it too recently, but I found it a little overrated when I first saw it. Doesnt hold up with those very good or better mafia/gangster movies
That movie doesn't age as well as other period dramas like The Godfather. You could argue that it's pretty ham-fisted. But there are still a lot of memorable scenes to enjoy.
that pretty much describes brian depalma's entire body of work as a director.
Touché.
I haven't seen Jacob's Ladder since middle school, when I was more than a little overwhelmed with it. I added it to my queue to be shipped today so I will report back by the weekend.andI would give 5/5 to both Donnie Darko and 12 Monkeys as well. Probably 4.5 to Butterfly Effect.
Jacobs Ladder.Interested to hear how it's held up- haven't seen it since it kinda blew my mind in college.
The soundtrack alone gives it some merit.
I watched the directors cut about 3 years ago. Still Awesome.I haven't seen Jacob's Ladder since middle school, when I was more than a little overwhelmed with it. I added it to my queue to be shipped today so I will report back by the weekend.andI would give 5/5 to both Donnie Darko and 12 Monkeys as well. Probably 4.5 to Butterfly Effect.
Jacobs Ladder.Interested to hear how it's held up- haven't seen it since it kinda blew my mind in college.
I watched it again probably 8 months ago or so because my Pops had never seen it. Hes a big movie guy, but he didnt seem to think it was as crazy/amazing as I didI still like just as much as ever though, and when theres an ending as surprising as that, I think that speaks volumes about the movieI watched the directors cut about 3 years ago. Still Awesome.I haven't seen Jacob's Ladder since middle school, when I was more than a little overwhelmed with it. I added it to my queue to be shipped today so I will report back by the weekend.andI would give 5/5 to both Donnie Darko and 12 Monkeys as well. Probably 4.5 to Butterfly Effect.
I don't use the word "fantastic" very often. This movie is that and a bag of chips. Visually beautiful from the opening credits on. A must see film.I normally hate when you guys quote 44 different responses, but I thought I had to here so that people don't miss this. The gf and I watched this last night and enjoyed it. We couldn't believe that all those shots were real and not cg or at least enhanced. Awe-inspiring cinematography. We saw this on Blu-ray, to boot, so if you can find it (Blockbuster had it) on that, I'd highly recommend it.yup.This movie is truly a masterpiece.I can't describe it and Ebert only scratches the surface. It's like the first time I ever saw Cirque Du Soleil's "Mystere" in Vegas. I could only liken it to the first time a child sees Disneyland.It's visually stunning with a great story.You HAVE to see this film. It's not a request!interesting backstory to the movie... he claims to have scouted locations for 17 years (reportedly shot in 24 countries & it shows), & when he saw a picture of the girl he felt compelled to start filming right away... he was able to piggyback on his commerical shoots to cut costs, but still almost went bankrupt by financing it out of pocket... reminiscent of the big stakes coppola gambled with apocalypse now, reportedly being close to the brink financially... less successfully, billy friedkin, flush from success of the exorcist, lost a fortune shooting the unappreciated gem but commercially disastrous sorceror on location in central or south american jungle... one thing that made conventional financing impossible, was he admitted that the script would be partly written by the child actress (the stories of the narrator & girl become interwoven & collaborative during the course of the movie)... one way they were able to capture such a natural & unaffected performance from the child was hiding the camera where possible, & filming during apparent rehearsals...tarsem (as he goes by) has been attached to a few projects recently, but not sure if anything concrete is lined up...* ebert liked it enough to give it a follow up review (both below)... he also said it would make his best/favorite movies of the year list...The Fall May 29, 2008 By Roger EbertTarsem's "The Fall" is a mad folly, an extravagant visual orgy, a free-fall from reality into uncharted realms. Surely it is one of the wildest indulgences a director has ever granted himself. Tarsem, for two decades a leading director of music videos and TV commercials, spent millions of his own money to finance "The Fall," filmed it for four years in 28 countries and has made a movie that you might want to see for no other reason than because it exists. There will never be another like it."The Fall" is so audacious that when Variety calls it a "vanity project," you can only admire the man vain enough to make it. It tells a simple story with vast romantic images so stunning I had to check twice, three times, to be sure the film actually claims to have absolutely no computer-generated imagery. None? What about the Labyrinth of Despair, with no exit? The intersecting walls of zig-zagging staircases? The man who emerges from the burning tree? Perhaps the key words are "computer-generated." Perhaps some of the images are created by more traditional kinds of special effects.The story framework for the imagery is straightforward. In Los Angeles, circa 1915, a silent movie stunt man has his legs paralyzed while performing a reckless stunt. He convalesces in a half-deserted hospital, its corridors of cream and lime stretching from ward to ward of mostly empty beds, their pillows and sheets awaiting the harvest of World War I. The stunt man is Roy (Lee Pace), pleasant in appearance, confiding in speech, happy to make a new friend of a little girl named Alexandria (Catinca Untaru).Roy tells a story to Alexandria, involving adventurers who change appearance as quickly as a child's imagination can do its work. We see the process. He tells her of an "Indian" who has a wigwam and a squaw. She does not know these words, and envisions an Indian from a land of palaces, turbans and swamis. The verbal story is input from Roy; the visual story is output from Alexandria.The story involves Roy (playing the Black Bandit) and his friends: a bomb-throwing Italian anarchist, an escaped African slave, an Indian (from India), and Charles Darwin and his pet monkey, Wallace. Their sworn enemy, Governor Odious, has stranded them on a desert island, but they come ashore (riding swimming elephants, of course) and wage war on him.Roy draws out the story for a personal motive; after Alexandria brings him some communion wafers from the hospital chapel, he persuades her to steal some morphine tablets from the dispensary. Paralyzed and having lost his great love (she is the Princess in his story), he hopes to kill himself. There is a wonderful scene of the little girl trying to draw him back to life.Either you are drawn into the world of this movie or you are not. It is preposterous, of course, but I vote with Werner Herzog, who says if we do not find new images, we will perish. Here a line of bowmen shoot hundreds of arrows into the air. So many of them fall into the back of the escaped slave that he falls backward and the weight of his body is supported by them, as on a bed of nails with dozens of foot-long arrows. There is scene of the monkey Wallace chasing a butterfly through impossible architecture.At this point in reviews of movies like "The Fall" (not that there are any), I usually announce that I have accomplished my work. I have described what the movie does, how it looks while it is doing it, and what the director has achieved. Well, what has he achieved? "The Fall" is beautiful for its own sake. And there is the sweet charm of the young Romanian actress Catinca Untaru, who may have been dubbed for all I know, but speaks with the innocence of childhood, working her way through tangles of words. She regards with equal wonder the reality she lives in, and the fantasy she pretends to. It is her imagination that creates the images of Roy's story, and they have a purity and power beyond all calculation. Roy is her perfect storyteller, she is his perfect listener, and together they build a world.Ebert notes: The movie's R rating should not dissuade bright teenagers from this celebration of the imagination.Tarsem and the legend of "The Fall" June 3, 2008by Roger EbertTarsem was talking about how he risked almost everything he owned to make a movie that nobody, nobody at all, was willing to finance for years. The movie is "The Fall," which will be on my list of the year's best films, and is setting box office records on the art house circuit. It is almost impossible to describe. You can say what happens, but you can't convey the astonishment of how it happens.Tarsem made millions as a director of commercials, and gladly spent most of them to make his movie. "Everybody in advertising," he was telling me, "always says one day they’ll make a great movie with their own money, blah, blah, blah. They never do it. David Fincher, one of my producers, told me, 'You happen to be the fool that has done it'."Tarsem is a thin man of medium height, mercurial in conversation, smiling easily. "Something happened to me that doesn’t happen to most people," he said. "Life happens to them. It was happening to me. But at the particular point when I was ready to settle down with a woman and have the babies, the woman moved and had the babies with somebody else. I was freaked out. What happened next was, I had promised myself I would make this film in a heartbeat if I found the right girl. And suddenly I found the little girl."How would he finance the movie? "I’ve never known what to do with money. I live quite easily. Ninety-five percent of the time it seems like I'm on airplanes or in airports. I travel making commercials, I have a home that’s all paid for, and I’m a prostitute in love with a profession. I had no idea who my money was for. It wasn’t for the kids that I didn’t have, so I decided to cash in.""The Fall" is one of the most extraordinary films I've ever seen. Set in Los Angeles in 1915, it involves a paralyzed stunt man (Lee Pace) and a four-year old Romanian girl named Alexandria (Catinca Untaru) who occupy separate wings in a hospital where most of the beds are empty -- waiting, probably, to be filled by victims of the Great War.The stunt man begins to tell the girl a story. We hear the story in his words, but we see it through her eyes, and she imagines it as a magical vision. After filming all the scenes involving the two characters, Tarsem shot her visions in 28 countries over a period of four years. There are sights in the film you cannot imagine are possible, but Tarsem says he used no computers to create them. They exist.Who is this Tarsem? Full name, Tarsem Singh Dhabdwar. Last name too hard for Americans to say. Millions of Indians have the middle name "Singh." Therefore, Tarsem. Born in India, his family moved to Iran when he was three, but his father was concerned the mullahs would destroy education there, so he sent his two sons to a boarding school in the Himalayas."I saw a book in India titled Guide to Film Schools in America, and it shell-shocked me," he said. "It changed my life, because I thought you went to college to study something that your father loved and you hated. I told my father I wanted to study film and he said there was no way he was gonna let me do that. I made my way to Los Angeles, and made a film that won a scholarship to the Art Center College of Design. My father thought I was headed for Harvard. I called him and said, 'I want to study film,' and he said, 'You don’t exist anymore'."Tarsem made a music video for Suzanne Vega, another for REM. "The first commercial I did was for Levi's, and was based on the movie 'The Swimmer,' the Burt Lancaster one, where a guy swims from pool to pool in his neighbor's back yards. The tagline was, 'The more you wash them, the better they get.”' That won the Grand Prix in Cannes and so in a way it's been downhill ever since."The agencies that made commercials, he said, "gave me very good money and I didn't complain about it. I put it aside like a little squirrel and at the end I ended up with a project that I wanted to do very badly and threw it all away, so now I’m penniless but as happy as a pig in poo. I told my brother, sell everything, I’m going on this magical mystery tour. When I finish it, I’ll let you know. I called him when it was almost done. He said the house was almost up for sale. But I was finished."He has a quick smile and makes his struggle sound like a lark."If you think it’s hard raising money for a film, try telling people that the script is going to be written by a 4-year old. It’s going to be dictated to me by a child. For seven years wherever I would shoot a commercial I would send people out with a camera to schools, and one day I got a tape of this girl at a school in Romania, in the middle of students talking. I was amazed. She was perfect. She didn't speak English. The penny dropped. She was six, but if she didn’t speak the language she would be using, the misunderstanding would buy me the two years that I needed. Because she had to seem four."I found a mental asylum in South Africa that gave me a wing. I figured everything for her had to be visual. I explained to her where she lived, where he lived, where everything was. And we taught her the English of her lines, word by word. She would say them, and if she didn't get it right in three or four takes, we changed her dialog because she needed to sound spontaneous, not rehearsed.""I found a mental asylum in South Africa that gave me a wing. I figured everything for her had to be visual. I explained to her where she lived, where he lived, where everything was. And we taught her the English of her lines, word by word. She would say them, and if she didn't get it right in three or four takes, we changed her dialog because she needed to sound spontaneous, not rehearsed."It's true. One of the treasures of the film is the sound of the dialog by Catinca Untaru. We understand every word, but she sounds as if she's inventing them as utters them.Now what about those miraculous locations? I asked him. No special effects? What about the zig-zagging interlocking black and white staircases reaching down into the earth?"Its true. Its Ripley’s. What people think is not true in the film is true. The steps that go down, it's a reservoir that has been there for 500 or 600 years. It's used for seeing how low the water level is, to determine how to tax people. If the water level is so high, they charge so much tax from the farmers. The problem is most of the time you never see those steps; they’re underwater. Somebody showed me these steps and said they went really way down. And I said, well, has anybody seen that?"They said, most Indians think they look cheap. But in fact they look like an inspiration by Escher. So labyrinthine and mad. The problem is, when you see the wide shot, you realize they're not what I’m making them out to be. What matters is how I’m framing it. If you see the wider shots, there are about 2,000 Indians on trees watching and wondering why we’re shooting in a really crappy well. But since I shot those steps, three Hindi movies have gone and shot there because they figure, if its good enough for him, it must be beautiful."And the Labyrinth With no Escape?"That is a 400-year-old observatory. The steps line up with one star, the arc lines up with another star, and if you look around the location it's really chaotic and haywire. All I had to do was choose my angle so I could use their shapes without showing their surroundings. I thought, I can make a labyrinth out of this if I make it look like it’s enclosed. The fact is, it's a really cheap-looking park in the middle of Jaidpur."And as for the Blue City..."Jodhpur, the blue city, is a Brahmin city where you’re only supposed to paint your house blue. I made a contract with the city; we would give them free paint. We knew legally they could only choose blue. So they painted their houses blue and it looked more vibrant than it ever had before."Tarsem made it all sound so simple, and when you see the film it all seems literally impossible."There are no computer effects. It’s just the kind of visual stuff like what I was doing all the time with commercials, where it looks like more than it is. In all these places I had filmed over at least 17 years, I told the people, this is a paid job, its a commercial, but I’ll come back one day and make this place look magical. To use a line from 'The Godfather,' he does them a favor, and one day, 'and that day may never come,' there will be a favor in return. And 17 years later that day came, I showed up, and some of the favors I could cash in, and some I couldn't. "And then Tarsem made one of the most astonishing films I have ever seen. It is all the more special in this age of computer-generated special effects, because we see things that cannot exist, but our eyes do not lie, and they do exist, yes, they really do.thanks to this review, i checked it out and liked it. the girl did stole the show.really liked the recently released the fall (by tarsem singh, who i think has only done the cell, previously)... this was one of the best movies i've seen this year... not perfect, i thought the end was a bit abrupt...this has probably fallen through the cracks, as i don't think it reached any kind of distribution outside of the festval circuit... i thought the cell was visually stunning, but somewhat lacking in the story department... the fall is even more visually stunning, & imo is a much better story... he doesn't have a very deep body of work (sort of like an indian terrance mallick?), but after seeing this movie, i'm starting to think he could be an important director and worth following his career... somewhat like gilliam's baron von munchausen, employing similar narrative vehicle to spin out episodic tales... also like wizard of oz (& munchausen), characters & events from the narrator's world are incorporated into & interwoven with the tales...this could almost be a family classic (but a dark one, like pan's labrynth), but maybe not ideal for YOUNG children, as there is some heavy underlying subject matter... a paralyzed and hospitalized stunt man ('30s or '40s?) distraught over being jilted tells a young girl fellow patient an epic tale of revenge, betrayal & love, in order to cajole her into stealing morphine so he can carry out his intent to suicide... at any rate this movie could appeal at a lot of levels, & could have crossover appeal for most ages, young & old... the stunt man & central character doesn't look like him, but his way of speaking reminds me of owen wilson... the little girl steals the show...the scope of this work is also maybe reminiscent of gilliam in that he paints on an extremely broad canvas & the story is wildly imaginative (i suspect a big reason singh took so long between movies was probably a gilliam-like difficulty in securing funds from financiers who balk at the prospect that his epic scope of vision could exceed the resources alotted to the budget for a weird movie by a quirky director that may not have mainstream appeal & bankability)... but the look is more streamlined & maybe even refined... gilliam can be a bit bloated at times, though i do admire him a lot for the most part...
I do not like most modern action flicks, but this worked for me. The stunt where he flips his car over the limo to shoot the guy was worth the price of admission alone.SKribbles said:
This script wasn't special to me, but Tommy Lee Jones really elevates the material.
Saw this over the weekend, and coming in not being familiar with it I was pleasantly surprised. Nice film to watch with the wife.
Cool. Dear Frankie is a good one.The In Bruges trailer looks terrible, but so many people like the movie, I obviously need to see it.
i anted to like this movie but couldn't muster much enthusiasm for it in the end. As the film ran longer (and it ran way too long), the less I liked it. It went from subtle enough to ham-fisted pretty quickly. The performances were uniformly good and that's the film's saving grace. Otherwise, it is a none-too-subtle "message" film from director of "Crash".
I agree with everything you wrote, and yet Jones makes it bearable.And Crash sucks ###.
Head. Move. Now.One of my favorite under-rated comedies (and was pretty heavily mentioned in that "underrated movies" thread) and has Myer at his best (playing his dad)/worst (why must he parade around in his underwear?). One of my oldest friends is in it too (Poetry MC). So many great cameos (Phil Hartman, Stephen Wright).
Prefer Elaine's version of Pacino.I really didn't like the movie, but can't remember why (and am happy not to).
