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Red Sox consider Japan trip boycott (1 Viewer)
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NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
Forfeit baby, Yanks two up in the loss column before the season starts!
TLEF316
Footballguy
Let's hope they both tie by going 0-2.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
Good for the Boston players. It wasn't just the players that got them the ring last year.
The Shizzle
Footballguy
The whole argument is that the coaches aren't getting the $40,000 that the players are getting to go on the trip. $10,000 a day in Japan is a nice stipend for a guy that makes $15 mill a year...............ridiculous.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
they've been playing the blue jays since 1:10 and are going to japan tonight.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
It's settled.
Road Warriors
Footballguy
Greedy? The players are going to get 40k for the trip. They are boycotting because the coaches and staff aren't getting the same benefit. Seems to be the opposite of greedy.
Zoomanji
Footballguy
It's neither of them.If you read the ESPN article it says that the players barely voted to go to Japan in the first place (ie close to half the team has no interest in the trip).Probably the rest have changed their mind and they are now using the stipend/ solidarity excuse to get out of a trip they already agreed to.I think the term is renege
Workhorse
Footballguy
And from what I'm hearing the only reason they agreed to the trip in the first place was that they didn't want to deny their coaching staff and clubhouse personnel an opportunity to earn a nice windfall of extra money. MLB had the nerve to try and change the agreement at the 11th hour and the players were rightfully upset. Which is why the A's would have boycotted it and why the Blue Jays supported the Red Sox players (temporarily) boycotting today's spring training game.It's neither of them.If you read the ESPN article it says that the players barely voted to go to Japan in the first place (ie close to half the team has no interest in the trip).Probably the rest have changed their mind and they are now using the stipend/ solidarity excuse to get out of a trip they already agreed to.I think the term is renege
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the moops
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Once again, it is not about the players. MLB had originally agreed to pay the players and coaches money for the inconvenience of traveling over there. MLB tried to take away the money they promised.40 grand is quite a bit of money for a lot of these coaches and players on league minimum contracts.Dreamer said:So they should be paid extra to go on a working vacation?I don't get it. A free trip to Japan and you're doing what you would normally be doing anyway. Just someplace else. And they need to be paid more?Why?
Dreamer
Footballguy
It is. Now please explain why they deserve it. For doing their job, someplace else. And I don't think going to Japan (for free, all expenses paid) is that much of an inconvenience.Once again, it is not about the players. MLB had originally agreed to pay the players and coaches money for the inconvenience of traveling over there. MLB tried to take away the money they promised.40 grand is quite a bit of money for a lot of these coaches and players on league minimum contracts.Dreamer said:So they should be paid extra to go on a working vacation?I don't get it. A free trip to Japan and you're doing what you would normally be doing anyway. Just someplace else. And they need to be paid more?Why?
the moops
Footballguy
It is. Now please explain why they deserve it. For doing their job, someplace else. And I don't think going to Japan (for free, all expenses paid) is that much of an inconvenience.Once again, it is not about the players. MLB had originally agreed to pay the players and coaches money for the inconvenience of traveling over there. MLB tried to take away the money they promised.40 grand is quite a bit of money for a lot of these coaches and players on league minimum contracts.Dreamer said:So they should be paid extra to go on a working vacation?
MLB is making tons of cash off of this. They are giving the participating teams some of it.It is a fairly big inconvenience. Not a good way to start the year, flying back and forth across the globe. Ask the Yankees how they feel about last year's trip.Why do they deserve it? Because they bargained for it. MLB cannot simply schedule games around the globe. They have to get the consent of the Players Association. The Players gave that consent on certain conditions. One of which was that the players and coaches would be paid extra. IF MLB wants the games in Japan, they have to live up to their end of the bargain.It is. Now please explain why they deserve it. For doing their job, someplace else. And I don't think going to Japan (for free, all expenses paid) is that much of an inconvenience.Once again, it is not about the players. MLB had originally agreed to pay the players and coaches money for the inconvenience of traveling over there. MLB tried to take away the money they promised.40 grand is quite a bit of money for a lot of these coaches and players on league minimum contracts.Dreamer said:So they should be paid extra to go on a working vacation?
pillowpants
Footballguy
I can think of 18 reasons not to play in Japan, AND 1 $40,000 check would not do it for me either.
Dreamer
Footballguy
Apparently they didn't actually bargain for it when they were making the deal. Or there wouldn't have been a problem. The players did make sure they got their money though. And 40K to go to Japan to do what you do anyway seems excessive.Why do they deserve it? Because they bargained for it. MLB cannot simply schedule games around the globe. They have to get the consent of the Players Association. The Players gave that consent on certain conditions. One of which was that the players and coaches would be paid extra. IF MLB wants the games in Japan, they have to live up to their end of the bargain.It is. Now please explain why they deserve it. For doing their job, someplace else. And I don't think going to Japan (for free, all expenses paid) is that much of an inconvenience.Once again, it is not about the players. MLB had originally agreed to pay the players and coaches money for the inconvenience of traveling over there. MLB tried to take away the money they promised.40 grand is quite a bit of money for a lot of these coaches and players on league minimum contracts.Dreamer said:So they should be paid extra to go on a working vacation?
the moops
Footballguy
OK. We get it. These players get millions of dollars a year to play baseball. Their whole life is excessive. Why are you harping on this?Apparently they didn't actually bargain for it when they were making the deal. Or there wouldn't have been a problem. The players did make sure they got their money though. And 40K to go to Japan to do what you do anyway seems excessive.Why do they deserve it? Because they bargained for it. MLB cannot simply schedule games around the globe. They have to get the consent of the Players Association. The Players gave that consent on certain conditions. One of which was that the players and coaches would be paid extra. IF MLB wants the games in Japan, they have to live up to their end of the bargain.It is. Now please explain why they deserve it. For doing their job, someplace else. And I don't think going to Japan (for free, all expenses paid) is that much of an inconvenience.Once again, it is not about the players. MLB had originally agreed to pay the players and coaches money for the inconvenience of traveling over there. MLB tried to take away the money they promised.40 grand is quite a bit of money for a lot of these coaches and players on league minimum contracts.Dreamer said:So they should be paid extra to go on a working vacation?I don't get it. A free trip to Japan and you're doing what you would normally be doing anyway. Just someplace else. And they need to be paid more?Why?
