Redskins safety Sean Taylor dies (1 Viewer)

[Beaumont]

The local NBC affiliate website had a piece where they said there is some indication that the 4 arrested men knew Sean Taylor's sister ...

Wow, that's sad.

http://www.bakersfield.com/931/story/298733.htmlAlso, I did not know that the knife was left on the bed of Taylor's sister.

 

[fatness]

The local NBC affiliate website had a piece where they said there is some indication that the 4 arrested men knew Sean Taylor's sister ...

Wow, that's sad.

That's in the Miami Herald article as well:

LEHIGH ACRES --

Miami-Dade police and prosecutors have arrested four people in connection with this week's slaying of NFL star Sean Taylor. The men: Jason Mitchell, 19, Eric Rivera, 17, Charles Wardlow, 18 and Venjah Hunte, 20. They will be charged with murder.

Miami-Dade Director Robert Parker said Friday night that the men targeted the house in a burglary and did not think Taylor was home. ''They were certainly not looking to go there and kill anyone,'' Parker said.



Relatives of Mitchell, 19, told The Miami Herald that he attended a birthday bash for Sasha Johnson, who is Sean Taylor's sister.

 

[fatness]

Sounds like these scumbags are the guys. Too bad their can never be justice on this. I know its small, but if these are the guys at least Sean can RIP without getting ripped by people saying that he "got what he deserved". That would prove just how shortsighted those people are. Knowing that this is how it may have went down just brings to reality the horrible nature of this crime.

There is a CNN video from about 20 hours ago (before any arrests were made) saying pretty much the same thing. Worth a Listen

 

[KoolKat]

I haven't read the entire thread, so this may have been said - Taylor pulled a gun on some guys trying to steal his property.

Wrong.A witness with a criminal record said he did that. The police recovered no gun. The gun charge against Taylor was dropped because there was no evidence.

Innocent till proven guilty down?

Sweet. That means I've never been drunk driving. I'll tell my parents, who caught me when I was 17 that they are full of crap.

Sorry for the thread hijack.I love it when people use anecdotal evidence to try to discredit an entire, proven system. Just because you used to drink and drive and did not get caught does not mean every other person who has been wrongfully accused of something and had the charges dropped is guilty. It is assumptions like those that led many to say he "got what he deserved" when he was just the victim of everyday burglary. Unless you are absolutely sure of the crime we have to trust our court system to do its job, and Taylor had those charges dropped.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I love it when people use anecdotal evidence to try to discredit an entire, proven system. Just because you used to drink and drive and did not get caught does not mean every other person who has been wrongfully accused of something and had the charges dropped is guilty.

I love it just as much when people require the court system to determine what happens in reality. I bet you are a lawyer. I bet you recently graduated law school.

 

[southeastjerome]

I love it when people use anecdotal evidence to try to discredit an entire, proven system. Just because you used to drink and drive and did not get caught does not mean every other person who has been wrongfully accused of something and had the charges dropped is guilty.

I love it just as much when people require the court system to determine what happens in reality. I bet you are a lawyer. I bet you recently graduated law school.

The booze on the breath of a drunk driver vs. the accusation of Taylor yielding a gun by a guy with a less than outstanding history and no gun ever found. Were you one of the guys saying Taylor got what he deserved? Go take your pissing contest elsewhere, it sure doesn't belong in this thread.

 

[JohnnyU]

Mad SweeneyJohnnyUBYRKyou come around here causing trouble in a thread that for the most part has been filled with respect and in my book, what you're doing is lower than "being a thug." while classy fans of Redskin foes (Cowboys, Eagles, et al) have provided me with a renewed faith in these "opponents," it's truly sad to see that there are still people who get their rocks off in other people's mourning. to hide behind the "PC" label is cowardly. to ignore the testimonies from players and coaches about how this young man had been turning his life around is - to use one of your words - sticking your head in the sand.you'd do well to stay out of this thread.

Many people on these boards seem to love to play the antagonist.

Hey, I didn't say that much in this thread. In essence, I said, "if you play with fire you're going to get burned". Now I don't know about you, but that's very tame in realation to other posts in this thread.

Everyone who gets suspended thinks there's a "sliding scale". No shock there. I don't see every post of the thousands posted every day. If you've got something you see as over the line, please report it. Your post was way over the line and you know it. J

I disagree. I don't think it was "way over the line" at all, especailly since this thread became a lot more than just a RIP thread. Somehow I don't believe everyone who has posted something other than respectful comments were banned. For me saying "if you play in the gutter long enough you will get dirty", hardly is way over the line in comparison to some of the posts in this thead by those who were not banned.

Nobody cares that Joe hurt your feelings by giving you a much needed time out, seriously nobody cares. IF it means THAT MUCH to you, PM Joe and for his eyes only, maybe you'll enough he'll be compelled to put you in the tantrum room again.

No one hurt my feelings. I stand by what I said. Grow up man.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Mad SweeneyJohnnyUBYRKyou come around here causing trouble in a thread that for the most part has been filled with respect and in my book, what you're doing is lower than "being a thug." while classy fans of Redskin foes (Cowboys, Eagles, et al) have provided me with a renewed faith in these "opponents," it's truly sad to see that there are still people who get their rocks off in other people's mourning. to hide behind the "PC" label is cowardly. to ignore the testimonies from players and coaches about how this young man had been turning his life around is - to use one of your words - sticking your head in the sand.you'd do well to stay out of this thread.

Many people on these boards seem to love to play the antagonist.

Hey, I didn't say that much in this thread. In essence, I said, "if you play with fire you're going to get burned". Now I don't know about you, but that's very tame in realation to other posts in this thread.

Everyone who gets suspended thinks there's a "sliding scale". No shock there. I don't see every post of the thousands posted every day. If you've got something you see as over the line, please report it. Your post was way over the line and you know it. J

I disagree. I don't think it was "way over the line" at all, especailly since this thread became a lot more than just a RIP thread. Somehow I don't believe everyone who has posted something other than respectful comments were banned. For me saying "if you play in the gutter long enough you will get dirty", hardly is way over the line in comparison to some of the posts in this thead by those who were not banned.

Nobody cares that Joe hurt your feelings by giving you a much needed time out, seriously nobody cares. IF it means THAT MUCH to you, PM Joe and for his eyes only, maybe you'll enough he'll be compelled to put you in the tantrum room again.

No one hurt my feelings. I stand by what I said. Grow up man.

Your statement was pure ignorant, especially considering the timing you used. Now that arrests have been made and it's showing that it had nothing to do with Sean Taylor's past...your statement (and some others) is even more ignorant. LMAO, now you sit here and say that stand by what you said and tell someone else to grow up. LOL!

 

[cobalt_27]

Mad SweeneyJohnnyUBYRKyou come around here causing trouble in a thread that for the most part has been filled with respect and in my book, what you're doing is lower than "being a thug." while classy fans of Redskin foes (Cowboys, Eagles, et al) have provided me with a renewed faith in these "opponents," it's truly sad to see that there are still people who get their rocks off in other people's mourning. to hide behind the "PC" label is cowardly. to ignore the testimonies from players and coaches about how this young man had been turning his life around is - to use one of your words - sticking your head in the sand.you'd do well to stay out of this thread.

Many people on these boards seem to love to play the antagonist.

Hey, I didn't say that much in this thread. In essence, I said, "if you play with fire you're going to get burned". Now I don't know about you, but that's very tame in realation to other posts in this thread.

Everyone who gets suspended thinks there's a "sliding scale". No shock there. I don't see every post of the thousands posted every day. If you've got something you see as over the line, please report it. Your post was way over the line and you know it. J

I disagree. I don't think it was "way over the line" at all, especailly since this thread became a lot more than just a RIP thread. Somehow I don't believe everyone who has posted something other than respectful comments were banned. For me saying "if you play in the gutter long enough you will get dirty", hardly is way over the line in comparison to some of the posts in this thead by those who were not banned.

Nobody cares that Joe hurt your feelings by giving you a much needed time out, seriously nobody cares. IF it means THAT MUCH to you, PM Joe and for his eyes only, maybe you'll enough he'll be compelled to put you in the tantrum room again.

No one hurt my feelings. I stand by what I said. Grow up man.

FWIW, your FBG stock crashed like Citi the other day. Bad timing or judgment...or something, man. Seriously surprised by your lack of sensitivity to the whole thing. Again, FWIW.

 

[southeastjerome]

Mad Sweeney

JohnnyU

BYRK

you come around here causing trouble in a thread that for the most part has been filled with respect and in my book, what you're doing is lower than "being a thug." while classy fans of Redskin foes (Cowboys, Eagles, et al) have provided me with a renewed faith in these "opponents," it's truly sad to see that there are still people who get their rocks off in other people's mourning. to hide behind the "PC" label is cowardly. to ignore the testimonies from players and coaches about how this young man had been turning his life around is - to use one of your words - sticking your head in the sand.

you'd do well to stay out of this thread.

Many people on these boards seem to love to play the antagonist.

Hey, I didn't say that much in this thread. In essence, I said, "if you play with fire you're going to get burned". Now I don't know about you, but that's very tame in realation to other posts in this thread.

Everyone who gets suspended thinks there's a "sliding scale". No shock there. I don't see every post of the thousands posted every day. If you've got something you see as over the line, please report it. Your post was way over the line and you know it. J

I disagree. I don't think it was "way over the line" at all, especailly since this thread became a lot more than just a RIP thread. Somehow I don't believe everyone who has posted something other than respectful comments were banned. For me saying "if you play in the gutter long enough you will get dirty", hardly is way over the line in comparison to some of the posts in this thead by those who were not banned.

Nobody cares that Joe hurt your feelings by giving you a much needed time out, seriously nobody cares. IF it means THAT MUCH to you, PM Joe and for his eyes only, maybe you'll enough he'll be compelled to put you in the tantrum room again.

No one hurt my feelings. I stand by what I said. Grow up man.

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

 

[JohnnyU]

FWIW, your FBG stock crashed like Citi the other day. Bad timing or judgment...or something, man. Seriously surprised by your lack of sensitivity to the whole thing. Again, FWIW.

I agree that I wasn't sensitive to the subject, and I shouldn't have posted that in what was originally started as a "RIP thread", but this thread is hardly a "RIP thread". As far as my comments about Taylor, I truely feel that he would be alive today had he not made the association choices he made. I do stand by that, but I am sorry I posted it in this thread. Even if it is a robbery and not a hit, I'd bet my life that the robbery was based upon his association choices.

 

[JohnnyU]

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

You don't think his relationships contributed to the robbery?

 

[Devius]

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

You don't think his relationships contributed to the robbery?

wow man... you are just reaching now. you have a personal vendetta against sean taylor or something?

 

[JohnnyU]

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

You don't think his relationships contributed to the robbery?

wow man... you are just reaching now. you have a personal vendetta against sean taylor or something?

Absolutely not.

However, I do feel the people he's had relations with contributed to the robbery. I belive those who broke into his house do have some relationship with someone he knows. That will come out in the wash.

 

[southeastjerome]

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

You don't think his relationships contributed to the robbery?

wow man... you are just reaching now. you have a personal vendetta against sean taylor or something?

Reaching is right. Time to quit on this one. Yes, his sister knew one of the scumbags. What, is he supposed to disown his sister b/c she also grew up in a not so friendly side of town? I think that's pretty shallow. Your main premise before was that you play with fire and you get burned. This had nothing to do with what happened as its being reported. So that would mean you were incorrect in your assumption.

 

[Devius]

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

You don't think his relationships contributed to the robbery?

wow man... you are just reaching now. you have a personal vendetta against sean taylor or something?

Absolutely not.

However, I do feel the people he's had relations with contributed to the robbery.

and you know this how? you know the people he has had relations with? you've been following his life this closely that you can make an educated assumption that they had something to do with his murder?!

 

[cobalt_27]

FWIW, your FBG stock crashed like Citi the other day. Bad timing or judgment...or something, man. Seriously surprised by your lack of sensitivity to the whole thing. Again, FWIW.

I agree that I wasn't sensitive to the subject, and I shouldn't have posted that in what was originally started as a "RIP thread", but this thread is hardly a "RIP thread". As far as my comments about Taylor, I truely feel that he would be alive today had he not made the association choices he made. I do stand by that, but I am sorry I posted it in this thread. Even if it is a robbery and not a hit, I'd bet my life that the robbery was based upon his association choices.

Someone really should just remove the shovel from your hands.

 

[southeastjerome]

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

You don't think his relationships contributed to the robbery?

wow man... you are just reaching now. you have a personal vendetta against sean taylor or something?

Absolutely not.

However, I do feel the people he's had relations with contributed to the robbery. I belive those who broke into his house do have some relationship with someone he knows. That will come out in the wash.

I really didn't want to post more to you. He's had contact with some of the guys who did this. Yes, one got invited to his sister's bday party and one mowed his lawn. So are you going to say Laci Peterson had relations with the wrong people when she married the dirtbag who killed her? Its her fault, right?

 

[RC94]

I haven't read the entire thread, so this may have been said - Taylor pulled a gun on some guys trying to steal his property.

Wrong.A witness with a criminal record said he did that. The police recovered no gun. The gun charge against Taylor was dropped because there was no evidence.

Innocent till proven guilty down?

Sweet. That means I've never been drunk driving. I'll tell my parents, who caught me when I was 17 that they are full of crap.

:IBTL:

 

[JohnnyU]

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

You don't think his relationships contributed to the robbery?

wow man... you are just reaching now. you have a personal vendetta against sean taylor or something?

Reaching is right. Time to quit on this one. Yes, his sister knew one of the scumbags. What, is he supposed to disown his sister b/c she also grew up in a not so friendly side of town? I think that's pretty shallow. Your main premise before was that you play with fire and you get burned. This had nothing to do with what happened as its being reported. So that would mean you were incorrect in your assumption.

Not true. If you associate with bad people, bad things could happen. My guess is that he had more ties to these people than just his sister, but even if he didn't, they were drawn in enough to Sean Taylor's life to cause his death.

 

[JohnnyU]

FWIW, your FBG stock crashed like Citi the other day. Bad timing or judgment...or something, man. Seriously surprised by your lack of sensitivity to the whole thing. Again, FWIW.

I agree that I wasn't sensitive to the subject, and I shouldn't have posted that in what was originally started as a "RIP thread", but this thread is hardly a "RIP thread". As far as my comments about Taylor, I truely feel that he would be alive today had he not made the association choices he made. I do stand by that, but I am sorry I posted it in this thread. Even if it is a robbery and not a hit, I'd bet my life that the robbery was based upon his association choices.

Someone really should just remove the shovel from your hands.

come on now.

 

[shadyridr]

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

You don't think his relationships contributed to the robbery?

Seriously man you sound like a friggin moron and I dont even care if Im being excellent right now

 

[JohnnyU]

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

You don't think his relationships contributed to the robbery?

Seriously man you sound like a friggin moron and I dont even care if Im being excellent right now

No need to get personal. If your mother hasn't told you that bad things can happen to you by who you associate with, then I'm sorry to hear that. I believe that if Sean Taylor hadn't associated with the killers, either directly or indirectly, he would still be alive.

 

[southeastjerome]

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

You don't think his relationships contributed to the robbery?

wow man... you are just reaching now. you have a personal vendetta against sean taylor or something?

Reaching is right. Time to quit on this one. Yes, his sister knew one of the scumbags. What, is he supposed to disown his sister b/c she also grew up in a not so friendly side of town? I think that's pretty shallow. Your main premise before was that you play with fire and you get burned. This had nothing to do with what happened as its being reported. So that would mean you were incorrect in your assumption.

Not true. If you associate with bad people, bad things could happen. My guess is that he had more ties to these people than just his sister, but even if he didn't, they were drawn in enough to Sean Taylor's life to cause his death.

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

 

[fatness]

I agree that I wasn't sensitive to the subject, and I shouldn't have posted that in what was originally started as a "RIP thread", but this thread is hardly a "RIP thread".

It has been trying to be a RIP thread ever since he died. The problem has been things like this:

What goes around comes around

It is truly sad that he died, but if you play with fire, eventually you're gonna get burned.

Say what you will, but the guy is a known criminal, living the "thug" lifestyle. Eventually, someone is going to get hurt, regardless of the situation. I repeat, it is sad that he died.

It is very very sad that this has happened. However, if you play in the gutter long enough, you will get dirty.

I think you guys are living in Fantasyland if you really think this was nothing more than a botched robbery attempt. Just because Taylor turned his life around, that doesn't mean his old friends/enemies did the same. If they had some kind of vendetta against Taylor from years ago, they're not going to suddenly let bygones be bygones just because Taylor has decided to grow up.

Rolle isn't going to be a snitch.

and THAT is part of the problem.

If you act like a thug, you'll die like a thug. Hopefully other athletes will wake up and get out while they still can.

I'm not jumping to anything. He was a thug, deal with it. Hell even Beamer still says nice things about Vick. What was Gibbs suppose to say???

 

[JohnnyU]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

 

[southeastjerome]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life.

Well according to most accounts so far, that was the extent of their contact. Hey, you've been wrong before.

 

[shadyridr]

Yeah, you're "play with fire and you'll get burned" is looking spot on. It's honestly time to let the guy RIP. It looks like they got the guys and the motive, so its time to put to bed the ideas that he got what was coming to him in some sort of thug war. These young thugs had no personal vengence with Sean as it appears. The motive, as all indications report, was breaking into Sean's safe. I guess you're the type that never admits they were mistaken. They say it takes a...oh forget it.

You don't think his relationships contributed to the robbery?

Seriously man you sound like a friggin moron and I dont even care if Im being excellent right now

No need to get personal. If your mother hasn't told you that bad things can happen to you by who you associate with, then I'm sorry to hear that. I believe that if Sean Taylor hadn't associated with the killers, either directly or indirectly, he would still be alive.

These werent his friends. As a human being you associate with people all the time. These people knew how much money Taylor had and tried to rob him. Get it through your thick skull.

 

[cobalt_27]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

You sound anything but sorry. Your posts demonstrate a position that he deserved everything he got. Like I said, this is all really poor ### form on your part.

 

[fatness]

All of the men -- Venjah K. Hunte, 20; Eric Rivera Jr., 17; Jason Scott Mitchell, 19; and Charles Kendrick Lee Wardlow, 18 -- resided across the state in or around Fort Myers, which is about 160 miles from Miami.

Link

 

[JohnnyU]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

You sound anything but sorry. Your posts demonstrate a position that he deserved everything he got. Like I said, this is all really poor ### form on your part.

I thought I had posted my last thought on this, but I must defend the fact that I never wanted to insinuate that he deserved what he got. I'm very very sorry this happend to him and his family. I just tried to instill the fact that you are who you associate with, and it is my guess is that his death was caused by his associations, whether directly or indirectly. Again, I apologize to everyone I offended by my posts on this subject, and this is my final post on it.

 

[fatness]

Tips led detectives on the accused killers’ trail from Miami to Lee County, Parker said. After the four suspects were rounded up, they were taken to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement office in Fort Myers.

Some of the suspects, Parker said, made confessions. A man carrying a court-reporter’s typewriter could be seen going in and out of the building. “We have more than one confession. We aren’t going to say who gave confessions,” he said.

Parker said there may be a fifth suspect. “We are looking for additional individuals. We haven’t verified that there is a fifth individual,” he said.

Link

 

[cobalt_27]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

You sound anything but sorry. Your posts demonstrate a position that he deserved everything he got. Like I said, this is all really poor ### form on your part.

I thought I had posted my last thought on this, but I must defend the fact that I never wanted to insinuate that he deserved what he got. I'm very very sorry this happend to him and his family. I just tried to instill the fact that you are who you associate with, and it is my guess is that his death was caused by his associations, whether directly or indirectly. Again, I apologize to everyone I offended by my posts on this subject, and this is my final post on it.

Translation: He got what was coming to him.

 

[Green Apple Splatter]

I am so glad they made an arrest in this case. It sounds like the police did a very good job. Let's hope they have a good case.

 

[southeastjerome]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

You sound anything but sorry. Your posts demonstrate a position that he deserved everything he got. Like I said, this is all really poor ### form on your part.

I thought I had posted my last thought on this, but I must defend the fact that I never wanted to insinuate that he deserved what he got. I'm very very sorry this happend to him and his family. I just tried to instill the fact that you are who you associate with, and it is my guess is that his death was caused by his associations, whether directly or indirectly. Again, I apologize to everyone I offended by my posts on this subject, and this is my final post on it.

Ok. So everyone be sure to hire detectives to watch everyone who went to your sister's birthday party in case they come after you. Johnny, make sure you frisk your landscaper before he comes near your house and report him to the police to let him know he mowed your lawn . In the mean time, shoot an email to laci peterson's mom and tell her that she should have done a better job of associating with her husband who would eventually kill her.

 

[fatness]

There's a 4-5 minute news video on this page with pictures, arrest records, etc. of the people arrested, and a short statement by Pedro Taylor: Link

Parker says the suspects broke into Sean Taylor’s home a couple of weeks ago to get "a large sum of money."

Parker added the men went back a week later and tried to get that money. He says all four of them entered the home, all of them came upon Taylor, and all four fled into a waiting vehicle after the shooting.

 

[mantle's liver]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

You sound anything but sorry. Your posts demonstrate a position that he deserved everything he got. Like I said, this is all really poor ### form on your part.

I thought I had posted my last thought on this, but I must defend the fact that I never wanted to insinuate that he deserved what he got. I'm very very sorry this happend to him and his family. I just tried to instill the fact that you are who you associate with, and it is my guess is that his death was caused by his associations, whether directly or indirectly. Again, I apologize to everyone I offended by my posts on this subject, and this is my final post on it.

Ok. So everyone be sure to hire detectives to watch everyone who went to your sister's birthday party in case they come after you. Johnny, make sure you frisk your landscaper before he comes near your house and report him to the police to let him know he mowed your lawn . In the mean time, shoot an email to laci peterson's mom and tell her that she should have done a better job of associating with her husband who would eventually kill her.

I say hire a lawn service and not someone from the hood.

 

[fatness]

It sounds like he meant you are who you associate with and that he was sorry this happened to Taylor.

Well if that's what he meant it's just silly. We all "associate" with people we're not like, whose lives we're not part of and who are not part of our lives. Many of us probably "associate" at times with criminals ---- we just are not aware of it, and we aren't victimized by it.

 

[QUEZILLA]

Haven't posted here in a while, but I just heard the latest news that they have detained 3 people. I am sure you have all heard the news, and doesn't it sound like a typical cover up? Maybe I watch too many movies, but think about it. The pressure is on the Miami police to do something. A high profile person just can't get murdered in the U.S. with nobody at fault. The part that made me initially think cover up is that they said the guys "heard he had nice stuff in his house." It's like the stereotypical "accidental" robbery. Usually if they detain a suspect it seems like they have no further details. By them saying "heard he has nice stuff" it's like they are pushing the robbery angle.

Something to wonder about anyways... It's no doubt gangs exist in Miami. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a certain extent of corruption in the police force.

 

[fatness]

Haven't posted here in a while, but I just heard the latest news that they have detained 3 people. I am sure you have all heard the news, and doesn't it sound like a typical cover up?

No. There are enough specifics that it sounds like they've got (some of) the right people. There are 2 confessions so far.

 

[shadyridr]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

You sound anything but sorry. Your posts demonstrate a position that he deserved everything he got. Like I said, this is all really poor ### form on your part.

I thought I had posted my last thought on this, but I must defend the fact that I never wanted to insinuate that he deserved what he got. I'm very very sorry this happend to him and his family. I just tried to instill the fact that you are who you associate with, and it is my guess is that his death was caused by his associations, whether directly or indirectly. Again, I apologize to everyone I offended by my posts on this subject, and this is my final post on it.

Ok. So everyone be sure to hire detectives to watch everyone who went to your sister's birthday party in case they come after you. Johnny, make sure you frisk your landscaper before he comes near your house and report him to the police to let him know he mowed your lawn . In the mean time, shoot an email to laci peterson's mom and tell her that she should have done a better job of associating with her husband who would eventually kill her.

I say hire a lawn service and not someone from the hood.

Had to use your alias to post this?

 

[southeastjerome]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

You sound anything but sorry. Your posts demonstrate a position that he deserved everything he got. Like I said, this is all really poor ### form on your part.

I thought I had posted my last thought on this, but I must defend the fact that I never wanted to insinuate that he deserved what he got. I'm very very sorry this happend to him and his family. I just tried to instill the fact that you are who you associate with, and it is my guess is that his death was caused by his associations, whether directly or indirectly. Again, I apologize to everyone I offended by my posts on this subject, and this is my final post on it.

Ok. So everyone be sure to hire detectives to watch everyone who went to your sister's birthday party in case they come after you. Johnny, make sure you frisk your landscaper before he comes near your house and report him to the police to let him know he mowed your lawn . In the mean time, shoot an email to laci peterson's mom and tell her that she should have done a better job of associating with her husband who would eventually kill her.

I say hire a lawn service and not someone from the hood.

Nice. How do you know he didnt? Make sure to do a background check on everyone you come in contact with. Afterall, if you call directv to fix your cable, you could have what's coming to you.

 

[Keith Lewis]

FWIW, your FBG stock crashed like Citi the other day. Bad timing or judgment...or something, man. Seriously surprised by your lack of sensitivity to the whole thing. Again, FWIW.

I agree that I wasn't sensitive to the subject, and I shouldn't have posted that in what was originally started as a "RIP thread", but this thread is hardly a "RIP thread". As far as my comments about Taylor, I truely feel that he would be alive today had he not made the association choices he made. I do stand by that, but I am sorry I posted it in this thread. Even if it is a robbery and not a hit, I'd bet my life that the robbery was based upon his association choices.

Someone really should just remove the shovel from your hands.

 

[Keith Lewis]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

Did you get this information from Miss Cleo or just pulling words from your rear end?

 

[Pipes]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

You sound anything but sorry. Your posts demonstrate a position that he deserved everything he got. Like I said, this is all really poor ### form on your part.

I thought I had posted my last thought on this, but I must defend the fact that I never wanted to insinuate that he deserved what he got. I'm very very sorry this happend to him and his family. I just tried to instill the fact that you are who you associate with, and it is my guess is that his death was caused by his associations, whether directly or indirectly. Again, I apologize to everyone I offended by my posts on this subject, and this is my final post on it.

Ok. So everyone be sure to hire detectives to watch everyone who went to your sister's birthday party in case they come after you. Johnny, make sure you frisk your landscaper before he comes near your house and report him to the police to let him know he mowed your lawn . In the mean time, shoot an email to laci peterson's mom and tell her that she should have done a better job of associating with her husband who would eventually kill her.

I say hire a lawn service and not someone from the hood.

Yeah cause everyone knows that gang bangers are out there looking for part time jobs like delivering newspapers and mowing lawns.

 

[redman]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

You sound anything but sorry. Your posts demonstrate a position that he deserved everything he got. Like I said, this is all really poor ### form on your part.

I thought I had posted my last thought on this, but I must defend the fact that I never wanted to insinuate that he deserved what he got. I'm very very sorry this happend to him and his family. I just tried to instill the fact that you are who you associate with, and it is my guess is that his death was caused by his associations, whether directly or indirectly. Again, I apologize to everyone I offended by my posts on this subject, and this is my final post on it.

Ok. So everyone be sure to hire detectives to watch everyone who went to your sister's birthday party in case they come after you. Johnny, make sure you frisk your landscaper before he comes near your house and report him to the police to let him know he mowed your lawn . In the mean time, shoot an email to laci peterson's mom and tell her that she should have done a better job of associating with her husband who would eventually kill her.

I say hire a lawn service and not someone from the hood.

Yeah cause everyone knows that gang bangers are out there looking for part time jobs like delivering newspapers and mowing lawns.

Has it ever been more obvious that someone switched mid-stream to an alias to avoid his main getting banned than JohnnyU switching to mantle's liver?

 

[fatness]

Reactions of various Redskins

"Why would you go back and hit the guys house? It's crazy. Crazy. Sean had nothing to do with this. He didn't do nothing bad. Just a random thing. Man, this is crazy. This is going to be an emotional weekend. It's just going to be rough man."

Had a brief conversation with DT Cornelius Griffin, who was not aware of the news of the arrests and circumstances until I told him. "That's crazy, that's crazy," he said repeatedly as I explained this situation. "I know his sister must feel pretty bad right now. It's sad, man."

Another Redskins starter just sent me a text: "This makes me sick. Simply didn't have to happen."

from Richard Sharpstein

"People always said Sean's life led him to this, saying he was violent," Sharpstein said. "But if anything here his openness and generosity led to this crime, which is shocking and horrific. I said all along it was a burglary and it was planned. There are 17, 19, 21-year old pathetic criminal wannabes and they carry a gun like every other dime a dozen jerk in the streets, and they happen to come upon someone they don't expect to be there and they fire the gun and run like cowards. This is a shame, but it's not over and this will be of no solace to the family. If anything it will only make it harder to swallow."

 

[TxBuckeye]

Guys, please stop. The more you argue with him, the more chance this thread has of getting locked. Joe has done a good job putting the knuckleheads in time out. Leave it to him.

 

[thayman]

I would like to see some apologies issued from some of the major news outlets that were basically saying what a lot of posters were saying in this thread. It appears his "checkered" past did not catch up with him.

ETA: What a random waste of life.

 

[Keith Lewis]

So by Sean hiring someone to mow his lawn he associated with him? Because one of these kids was at his sister's birthday party he associated with him? Check out one of the suspects myspace page and look at his pics http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=105813923 Think he has a motivation for money? Again, countless of innocent victims associate with people who they don't expect to kill them. Based on your premise you'd blame Laci Peterson for her own murder. I'm really done with you because you're awful responses are not deserving of a response. I used to respect your posts man.

I'm saying that his relationships with these people go far deeper than them mowing his lawn, or one of them at his sister's birthday party. It all goes to who you let into your life. If you let these types of people into your life, then bad things can happen. My guess is that he knew exactly what kind of people he let into his life. I'm done with this subject. I apologize to everyone I offended, but I believe what I believe. Again, RIP Sean, and I'm sorry this happened to him.

You sound anything but sorry. Your posts demonstrate a position that he deserved everything he got. Like I said, this is all really poor ### form on your part.

I thought I had posted my last thought on this, but I must defend the fact that I never wanted to insinuate that he deserved what he got. I'm very very sorry this happend to him and his family. I just tried to instill the fact that you are who you associate with, and it is my guess is that his death was caused by his associations, whether directly or indirectly. Again, I apologize to everyone I offended by my posts on this subject, and this is my final post on it.

Ok. So everyone be sure to hire detectives to watch everyone who went to your sister's birthday party in case they come after you. Johnny, make sure you frisk your landscaper before he comes near your house and report him to the police to let him know he mowed your lawn . In the mean time, shoot an email to laci peterson's mom and tell her that she should have done a better job of associating with her husband who would eventually kill her.

I say hire a lawn service and not someone from the hood.

Yeah cause everyone knows that gang bangers are out there looking for part time jobs like delivering newspapers and mowing lawns.

Has it ever been more obvious that someone switched mid-stream to an alias to avoid his main getting banned than JohnnyU switching to mantle's liver?

They can IP check, I say IP check and if it's true give him an extended time-out. Trashing dead people isn't exactly a sign of high character.