Redskins willing to deal Betts (1 Viewer)

[jeter23]

The Jets and Redskins have reportedly engaged in trade talks regarding Ladell Betts, but a potential deal fell through.

Now there's a great fit for the Jets! Betts would make a great starter with Leon Washington behind him. The talks also show a new willingness by the Redskins to move Betts, which would be huge for Clinton Portis.

Source: Newark Star-Ledger

 

[redman]

The Jets and Redskins have reportedly engaged in trade talks regarding Ladell Betts, but a potential deal fell through.Now there's a great fit for the Jets! Betts would make a great starter with Leon Washington behind him. The talks also show a new willingness by the Redskins to move Betts, which would be huge for Clinton Portis.Source: Newark Star-Ledger

The story I read indicated that the Jets approached the Redskins about Betts. I don't know what to make at this point of news of a "potential deal falling through", so right now I'm not sure how much desire there is on the Redskins' side to deal Betts.

 

[jeter23]

Thanks Redman, this was the first news I had heard about a possible Betts trade.

 

[Fantasy Football Junkie]

This is a ploy to motivate C. Houston!!!!

 

[redman]

Thanks Redman, this was the first news I had heard about a possible Betts trade.

It's just hard to tell at this point whether the Redskins are merely entertaining offers, looking for the proverbial "offer they can't refuse", or whether they're actively shopping Betts. I'm assuming it's the former because the understanding with Betts when they resigned him was that Betts was accepting less from them to stay with the team in the backup role behind Portis. Yeah, all's fair in love and war . . . and the business of football, however it would be pretty crappy of the team to then deal him with a more tradeable contract and go against that understanding, and that's certainly not Gibbs' style. BTW, Jason LaCanfora, a respected NFL and Redskins writer for the Wash Post, put to rest the rumors about a trade by the 'Skins for Vilma (which would presumably tie into a trade involving Betts). He indicated that Vilma's agent had heard nothing, and that that would be highly unusual if Vilma was being discussed as a trade candidate given the need to take contract status into account with the salary cap. Food for thought.

 

[Guinis72]

Man, how mad would you be if you were Betts? He recently signed a deal for only about $2M/yr when he could have (and probably should have) tested free agency for a bigger payday. You sign a lowball deal to stay in Wash, then they trade you?? Lol.

 

[T Bell]

This is a ploy to motivate C. Houston!!!!

Yeah, and Denver ployed my ### all the way to Dee-troit!

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Man, how mad would you be if you were Betts? He recently signed a deal for only about $2M/yr when he could have (and probably should have) tested free agency for a bigger payday. You sign a lowball deal to stay in Wash, then they trade you?? Lol.

Betts and his agent played this whole thing wrong. They are probably sick about the contracts theyve already seen. Now the Skins can cash in betts for starter trade value even though he's only getting paid backup value. That being said, I don't expect Betts to get traded - but man his contract makes him very very attractive.

 

[perry147]

Man, how mad would you be if you were Betts? He recently signed a deal for only about $2M/yr when he could have (and probably should have) tested free agency for a bigger payday. You sign a lowball deal to stay in Wash, then they trade you?? Lol.

Betts and his agent played this whole thing wrong. They are probably sick about the contracts theyve already seen. Now the Skins can cash in betts for starter trade value even though he's only getting paid backup value. That being said, I don't expect Betts to get traded - but man his contract makes him very very attractive.

I can see Daniel Snyder making this type of deal but doesn't Gibbs have final say on all personal decisions?

 

[identikit]

Man, how mad would you be if you were Betts? He recently signed a deal for only about $2M/yr when he could have (and probably should have) tested free agency for a bigger payday. You sign a lowball deal to stay in Wash, then they trade you?? Lol.

Betts and his agent played this whole thing wrong. They are probably sick about the contracts theyve already seen. Now the Skins can cash in betts for starter trade value even though he's only getting paid backup value. That being said, I don't expect Betts to get traded - but man his contract makes him very very attractive.

I can see Daniel Snyder making this type of deal but doesn't Gibbs have final say on all personal decisions?

Uh-huh, sure....Snyder has the final, final say....

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Now that Mangini is hot for Betts,

I wouldn't be surprised to see Belichick snag him.

Betts would be a sweet replacement for Dillon,

at 2MIL per, plus you get over on Mangini.

Perfect.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

They should trade Portis since Betts is so affordable and go out and revamp the defense, add an OL here or there...a good veteran QB would do wonders for them.

I'm just saying...

 

[buster c]

Betts laid it on the ground too much for my liking. Coost them the am game and another - the Buc game?

No doubt, he is a hard runner, but nobody is tougher than Portis. There is not one single thing Betts does better than Portis.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

There is not one single thing Betts does better than Portis.

... stay healthy ?

 

[BringItOn]

They should trade Portis since Betts is so affordable and go out and revamp the defense, add an OL here or there...a good veteran QB would do wonders for them. I'm just saying...

But that would be the wise thing to do....... so It'll never happen

 

[redman]

Betts laid it on the ground too much for my liking. Coost them the am game and another - the Buc game?

No doubt, he is a hard runner, but nobody is tougher than Portis. There is not one single thing Betts does better than Portis.

Betts is a better receiver. It's not that Portis is bad, but Betts is excellent.

 

[toxicbees]

I honestly think Betts contract makes him a much more attractive trade target. I'd love to see him get a starting gig somewhere.

 

[fatness]

It's just hard to tell at this point whether the Redskins are merely entertaining offers, looking for the proverbial "offer they can't refuse", or whether they're actively shopping Betts. I'm assuming it's the former because the understanding with Betts when they resigned him was that Betts was accepting less from them to stay with the team in the backup role behind Portis.

What may be going on is that the Redskins want to pick up more draft choices but they have little to offer in trade besides their first-round pick, which they want to keep. They don't actually have many players that other teams want. Other teams want Betts, naturally, after his play last year and his friendly contract signing. If Betts gets traded he'll be pissed, I'd bet. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen in order to pick up more draft picks.The other possibility for the Redskins to pick up draft picks is trading with SF, who has a boatload of picks in the first 3 rounds. The Skins would probably have to deal their 1st rounder, though. Just thinking out loud.

 

[spec1alk]

What do you think the likelyhood of betts getting traded into a starting role is?

 

[Ron_Mexico]

It's just hard to tell at this point whether the Redskins are merely entertaining offers, looking for the proverbial "offer they can't refuse", or whether they're actively shopping Betts. I'm assuming it's the former because the understanding with Betts when they resigned him was that Betts was accepting less from them to stay with the team in the backup role behind Portis.

What may be going on is that the Redskins want to pick up more draft choices but they have little to offer in trade besides their first-round pick, which they want to keep. They don't actually have many players that other teams want. Other teams want Betts, naturally, after his play last year and his friendly contract signing. If Betts gets traded he'll be pissed, I'd bet. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen in order to pick up more draft picks.The other possibility for the Redskins to pick up draft picks is trading with SF, who has a boatload of picks in the first 3 rounds. The Skins would probably have to deal their 1st rounder, though. Just thinking out loud.

I don't think that SF is the ideal fit for Betts.If the Bills deal McGahee,then I wouldn't rule out Betts to Buffalo,New England and the Jets are also strong possibilities, imo.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

What do you think the likelyhood of betts getting traded into a starting role is?

I would say anyone trading for him would either want him to start or not trust whomever they currently have slated to start.So the likelihood is somewhat high imo

 

[fatness]

I'd think if he's traded it would be to someone who wanted him to start, or to at least get a Marion-Barber-like share of their offense. Teams envisioning him as a starter would see him as more valuable than teams seeing him as a backup.

 

[fatness]

I don't think that SF is the ideal fit for Betts.

I didn't explain myself clearly. I think if the Redskins want more draft choices they'd deal their first to SF, not deal Betts. Which is probably a better idea for me to bring up in the ongoing Skins offseason thread.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I don't think that SF is the ideal fit for Betts.

I didn't explain myself clearly. I think if the Redskins want more draft choices they'd deal their first to SF, not deal Betts. Which is probably a better idea for me to bring up in the ongoing Skins offseason thread.

gotcha I think Betts and Maroney would be a great fit.The jury is still out on whether either RB could carrythe load for 16 games, but I really thinkthey would complement each other well.If he went to Buffalo, he would most likelybe the workhorse caryying the full load,if he went to the Jets, it would be somewhere in between.

 

[Blackjacks]

What about Denver or Balt?

 

[toxicbees]

It's just hard to tell at this point whether the Redskins are merely entertaining offers, looking for the proverbial "offer they can't refuse", or whether they're actively shopping Betts. I'm assuming it's the former because the understanding with Betts when they resigned him was that Betts was accepting less from them to stay with the team in the backup role behind Portis.

What may be going on is that the Redskins want to pick up more draft choices but they have little to offer in trade besides their first-round pick, which they want to keep. They don't actually have many players that other teams want. Other teams want Betts, naturally, after his play last year and his friendly contract signing. If Betts gets traded he'll be pissed, I'd bet. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen in order to pick up more draft picks.The other possibility for the Redskins to pick up draft picks is trading with SF, who has a boatload of picks in the first 3 rounds. The Skins would probably have to deal their 1st rounder, though. Just thinking out loud.

The Redskins could get back one of their 3rd or 4th round picks they traded away to the Niners for Brandon Lloyd.

 

[Al Toon's Mole]

It's just hard to tell at this point whether the Redskins are merely entertaining offers, looking for the proverbial "offer they can't refuse", or whether they're actively shopping Betts. I'm assuming it's the former because the understanding with Betts when they resigned him was that Betts was accepting less from them to stay with the team in the backup role behind Portis.

What may be going on is that the Redskins want to pick up more draft choices but they have little to offer in trade besides their first-round pick, which they want to keep. They don't actually have many players that other teams want. Other teams want Betts, naturally, after his play last year and his friendly contract signing. If Betts gets traded he'll be pissed, I'd bet. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen in order to pick up more draft picks.The other possibility for the Redskins to pick up draft picks is trading with SF, who has a boatload of picks in the first 3 rounds. The Skins would probably have to deal their 1st rounder, though. Just thinking out loud.

The Redskins could get back one of their 3rd or 4th round picks they traded away to the Niners for Brandon Lloyd.

T.J. Duckett-RB- Redskins Mar. 2 - 4:54 pm et The Jets and Lions have interest in free agent T.J. Duckett, according to the New York Daily News.Detroit must be really worried about Kevin Jones' Lisfranc injury as well as Brian Calhoun's ACL to want another tailback after acquiring Tatum Bell. The Lions reportedly already have a visit set up with Duckett.Source: New York Daily News Good for Portis owners too...no more TD vulturing (though it was not a factor last year)

 

[redman]

What do you think the likelyhood of betts getting traded into a starting role is?

I would say anyone trading for him would either want him to start or not trust whomever they currently have slated to start.So the likelihood is somewhat high imo

:( I would liken his situation to that of Lamont Jordan two years ago, the only substantive difference being that Jordan was a FA while Betts is under contract. In both cases, the acquiring team would obtain him to start him.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Betts to Denver would be beyond awesome...

 

[nygiants56]

It's just hard to tell at this point whether the Redskins are merely entertaining offers, looking for the proverbial "offer they can't refuse", or whether they're actively shopping Betts. I'm assuming it's the former because the understanding with Betts when they resigned him was that Betts was accepting less from them to stay with the team in the backup role behind Portis.

What may be going on is that the Redskins want to pick up more draft choices but they have little to offer in trade besides their first-round pick, which they want to keep. They don't actually have many players that other teams want. Other teams want Betts, naturally, after his play last year and his friendly contract signing. If Betts gets traded he'll be pissed, I'd bet. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen in order to pick up more draft picks.The other possibility for the Redskins to pick up draft picks is trading with SF, who has a boatload of picks in the first 3 rounds. The Skins would probably have to deal their 1st rounder, though. Just thinking out loud.

I don't think that SF is the ideal fit for Betts.If the Bills deal McGahee,then I wouldn't rule out Betts to Buffalo,New England and the Jets are also strong possibilities, imo.

Giants, too. GB? Cleveland? Denver?

 

[redman]

It's just hard to tell at this point whether the Redskins are merely entertaining offers, looking for the proverbial "offer they can't refuse", or whether they're actively shopping Betts. I'm assuming it's the former because the understanding with Betts when they resigned him was that Betts was accepting less from them to stay with the team in the backup role behind Portis.

What may be going on is that the Redskins want to pick up more draft choices but they have little to offer in trade besides their first-round pick, which they want to keep. They don't actually have many players that other teams want. Other teams want Betts, naturally, after his play last year and his friendly contract signing. If Betts gets traded he'll be pissed, I'd bet. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen in order to pick up more draft picks.

The other possibility for the Redskins to pick up draft picks is trading with SF, who has a boatload of picks in the first 3 rounds. The Skins would probably have to deal their 1st rounder, though. Just thinking out loud.

I don't think that SF is the ideal fit for Betts.If the Bills deal McGahee,

then I wouldn't rule out Betts to Buffalo,

New England and the Jets are also strong possibilities, imo.

Giants, too. GB? Cleveland? Denver?

I can't imagine the 'Skins trading Betts within their division.

 

[Bri]

I can't imagine the 'Skins trading Betts within their division.

I agree but it probably depends if they think they'll "get em'". If the G-men would be crushed if they lost Eli and the Skins could do that, they would I'm sure. Sadly they have no backups and it would but....Right now, I'm confident Portis or Betts won't be a Redskin in September. Brunell's restructure apparently gave them a truckload of free cap space. They have a limitted number of picks due to trades and such but they will need to sign them. You've gotta consider some of the cushion Brunell gave them to be used up by them. Snyder just does not like to sit still during free agency. Trading one of them would get another player, get him in the papers for the trade, and satisfy his urges. We'll see in time, that's just how I feel.They could cut Lloyd or some other guy to free up money so Snyder could play the FA game but until that happens I gotta figure one RB is his way to enter the game.

 

[redman]

I can't imagine the 'Skins trading Betts within their division.

I agree but it probably depends if they think they'll "get em'". If the G-men would be crushed if they lost Eli and the Skins could do that, they would I'm sure. Sadly they have no backups and it would but....Right now, I'm confident Portis or Betts won't be a Redskin in September. Brunell's restructure apparently gave them a truckload of free cap space. They have a limitted number of picks due to trades and such but they will need to sign them. You've gotta consider some of the cushion Brunell gave them to be used up by them. Snyder just does not like to sit still during free agency. Trading one of them would get another player, get him in the papers for the trade, and satisfy his urges. We'll see in time, that's just how I feel.They could cut Lloyd or some other guy to free up money so Snyder could play the FA game but until that happens I gotta figure one RB is his way to enter the game.

I agree that if they are going to trade someone, Betts makes the most sense because of his market value which is at its peak right now as well as his cap friendly contract. They're also generally in a good position on offense and need to add defensive players, so one would think they'd if anything trade away an offensive player to accomplish that. Still, I'm going to be a but surprised if they traded away Betts because doing so will create an area of need for them at backup behind Portis, whose physical style of play always leads to at least nagging injuries that deteriorate his abilities over the course of the year. Cartwright has looked good in stretches running the ball but has had awful fumbling problems and is really a special teams player for them. Duckett is a UFA and doesn't figure to be back. In short, they'd then need a RB2 if they traded Betts. I'll also be a bit let down if they trade him given that the idea behind his contract extension three months ago was that he was accepting less to stay with the team because he liked his role and the coaching staff and they appreciated his abilities. That would smack of betrayal and would not strike me as the type of move that Gibbs would make, but perhaps I'm being a tad idealistic in that regard.