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Refs Should be Accountable for Making Awful Calls (1 Viewer)

Here is the total number of accepted penalties by season (including playoffs)

2014 3526

2013 3245

2012 3319

2011 3374

2010 3217

2009 3167

This season after 11 weeks there have been 2522 accepted penalties. This paces to 3668 penalties over 16 weeks.
After 14 weeks (minus one game) there have been 3121 accepted penalties. This is on pace for 3567 penalties over 16 weeks not including playoffs. The pace has dropped off a bit since week 11 but this looks like a new record for penalties in the making after reaching a high mark in penalties last season.

 
Why do we barely even think about refs in college but nfl refs seem to always be the story. Refs are almost invisible in college

 
Why do we barely even think about refs in college but nfl refs seem to always be the story. Refs are almost invisible in college
Some factors to consider:

1) The number of people playing college fantasy football is a tiny fraction of NFL FFers, so the number of people emotionally invested in the outcome of each individual play, rather than the overall outcome of the game is small.

2) Far more college games on air in a week than NFL games divides the viewing audience so that fewer people see any particular bad call and get worked up about it on sports radio and message boards.

3) The college playoff system is still sufficiently exclusive to top teams in top conferences that most fans of most teams are not feeling like their season's success or failure hinges on any particular win or loss?

4) We tend to view college as an undercard for the NFL, so we expect less perfection?

 
I think about ref in college football as much as I think about college football. That would be practically never, although I do have an interest in former college football players from Feb to May or so

 
The one the Titans had to challenge in the spot...and won the challenge.  The issue was that the side judge never came in to spot the ball at all and was coming in to discuss the possible block in the back (that they then said was not an illegal block).  So they had zero clue where to spot the ball and just picked a place 3 yards short of where it should have been.

Awful

 
This is really bad but those kinds of no calls happen in every game.  

To me no calls are unfortunate and can make me mad but they aren't nearly as frustrating as some of the ticky tack stuff they call or when they take 20 minutes to review a play.
I generally agree, but that's a pretty bad hold to not call.

 
The fact remains referees have a tough job. You can't win.

I'm quite confident 99% of the people whining in this thread couldn't do any better.

I get it, though. Bad calls piss you off, but as long as the mistakes are held to a minimum, it's all we can expect with the human element.

Bad calls are like injuries. Don't use them as an excuse. Get better backup players & put yourself in a position as a team where refs can't decide the game. I've learned over the years there shouldn't be any excuses. 

 
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The fact remains referees have a tough job. You can't win.

I'm quite confident 99% of the people whining in this thread would do worse.

I get it, though. Bad calls piss you off, but as long as the mistakes are held to a minimum, it's all we can expect with the human element.

Bad calls are like injuries. Don't use them as an excuse. Get better backup players & put yourself in a position as a team where refs can't decide the game. I've learned over the years there shouldn't be any excuses. 
Just because I personally wouldn't be better at refereeing (having zero experience in the field) does not in any way disqualify me from proposing that somewhere out there there must exist somebody else who can do it better.

Total strawman to invalidate criticism of an obviously bad job because it comes from someone specialized in a different field.  99.9% of the country would make terrible Presidents too, but that doesn't make them wrong to critize the one we have.

 
Just because I personally wouldn't be better at refereeing (having zero experience in the field) does not in any way disqualify me from proposing that somewhere out there there must exist somebody else who can do it better.

Total strawman to invalidate criticism of an obviously bad job because it comes from someone specialized in a different field.  99.9% of the country would make terrible Presidents too, but that doesn't make them wrong to critize the one we have.
I agree. These guys are the best. And as long as mistakes are held to a minimum, it's all we can expect. They do a good job overall.

Main point is don't use it as an excuse. That's a tough loss for a KC fan, but they had it won. The call on Mariota didn't cost them the game. The Chiefs fell apart in the 2nd half without Kelce. That's nobody's fault but their own.

 
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The fact remains referees have a tough job. You can't win.

I'm quite confident 99% of the people whining in this thread couldn't do any better.

I get it, though. Bad calls piss you off, but as long as the mistakes are held to a minimum, it's all we can expect with the human element.

Bad calls are like injuries. Don't use them as an excuse. Get better backup players & put yourself in a position as a team where refs can't decide the game. I've learned over the years there shouldn't be any excuses. 
Unfortunately its impossible to put yourself in a position where the refs cant decide the game.  They can and do make bonehead calls on any type of play throughout the game.  The refs have been god awful.  They dont even get the reviews right 

The rules themselves need to be greatly simplified or it is just going to keep getting worse and worse.

 
Part of the problem is the rules themselves, but that’s not the ref’s fault. 

As far as bad calls, I’ll be watching a game & a somebody will complain about a call & 99% of the time, the player put himself in a position to be penalized by a judgement call. There are truly bad calls, but you’re going to get that with the human element. 

The supposed terrible job overall the refs are doing is a bunch if baloney, IMO. Sure, they’ll not see things & make obvious mistakes, but with replay, the vast majority of them are overturned.

Some rule changes & simplification will help, but it’s about as good as it’s going to get.

 
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So now Mike Pereira is saying the Eagles should have been penalized on the Philly Special play.

Only problem with that -- everyone agrees that Jeffrey checked with the ref and was told he was close enough to the line. Pereira says the ref was wrong and Jeffrey was too far away. But it's obvious that if the ref had told Alshon that before the play, he would have just moved closer. You can't penalize the Eagles for lining up in a way that they were told was legal.

 

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