Bush's dad isn't Huggy Bear though.
I hear they BREED good football players there as well as bake good BREAD.ACC n SEC = NFL breading grounds!
C'mon Joe, don't be ridiculous. I'm a UCLA fan, and even i wouldn't say something so outlandish and obsurd. And...6. USC trojans have a history of failure...huh? Just curious, then why do teams continuously pick Trojan players in the first round, and correct me if im wrong, don't they have the most #1 draft choices of all time?The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.
Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.
1. Size
2. Lack of speed
3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is
4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through
5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead
6. USC trojans have a history of failure
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1. See Barry Sanders2.The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.
Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.
1. Size
2. Lack of speed
3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is
4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through
5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead
6. USC trojans have a history of failure
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I wholeheartedly agree with Joet's assesment of the imminent disappointment that is Reggie Bush.Always nice to see such nice action this time of the year, even if the bait is stinky & weak.
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Also, Jerry Rice doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.I agree Tom Brady is a stiff....and that's about it, save a Ohio State player or two.Big10 churns out some good linemen too.ACC n SEC = NFL breading grounds!What conference had the #1 pick and completely owned the first round?A lot of us are just bored and would like to remind the board that the Pac10 = Conference of Champions.
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i have Dominick on my dynasty team, so i liked the Mario pick, and agree with Texans owner Bob McNair: ...the Texans' running game is above average and Kubiak alone can make it 25 percent better.Dom has basically rushed for 1000yards-per-year for 3 years, whilst also averaging 51 recs @ 425yards-per-year over the same 3 years, and he signed a contract last year for like 5 years @ $21-million. Houston brought in Denvers' hot-shot offensive coach Kubiak, and made him HC...added WR Moulds, and some interesting Def & Off help. The Houston Def stunk big time last year, but is looking good this year. Reggie needs to outperform Dominick during his first 3 years, before humble me sees him as anything more than a scat-back.The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.
Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.
1. Size
2. Lack of speed
3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is
4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through
5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead
6. USC trojans have a history of failure
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GDB people who piss in the Shark Pool.The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.
Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.
1. Size
2. Lack of speed
3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is
4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through
5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead
6. USC trojans have a history of failure
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I disagree with No.5, you give it to your best player. The Giants for years did that crap with Dayne while Barber was the better player for long distance and short distance. To have your Heisman Trophy winner on the sideline for the biggest play of the season was ridiculous at best. I don't care if he's in there for some type of misdirection, everyone in the freaken world new with Bush out and White in what the play was.1. See Barry Sanders2.The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.
Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.
1. Size
2. Lack of speed
3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is
4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through
5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead
6. USC trojans have a history of failure
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4. The guy could juke 6 midgets in a 6 x 6 room
5. You give it to thunder on the goalline, not lightning
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It will be fun to revisit say at about week 10. For the record, I think Reggie will have to make some adjustments to the pro game which will limit some of what he will do in college. But he still is far more athletic than most NFL RBs, and should excel at the next level.Can we be clear here?....[SIZE=14pt]MICHAEL BENNETT WILL DO NOTHING IN NEW ORLEANS. WHICH IS MORE THAN HE DID IN MINNESOTA THE LAST TWO YEARS.[/SIZE]My biggest concern is if Deuce goes down and Bush is called on to step into a bigger role carry wise (assuming Bennett gets 5-10 carries). As seen, a lot of games saw Bush with only 8-16 carries with a few sparse 20+ carries thrown in here and there. Can he pull it off consistently against teams with much quicker defenses? Keep in mind he'd be playing against teams like Atlanta, Chicago, Tampa Bay, and Carolina.
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First, Deuce McAllister is a great back that is on a bad team. I think he is a better back than Edge and Davis as he is a workhorse with speed. If he were on KC people would be talking about him being the #1 overall pick (before the injury). Now to your point about the injury, yes it may take him some time to get to 100%, but if and when he is there is no way that Bush will be the guy toting the rock to move the chains and wear out the opponent. I don't care how Bush looked in college, a healthy McAllister is a better running back than Bush. Bush can do a lot of other things, but when it comes to controlling the game with the run Deuce would have my vote.I feel dumber after reading this. Reggie is great and he will show it this year. For people saying what about Duece!!!!!, here's a ? for you. Name the last rb that got hurt DURING THE SEASON and ran for a thousand yards the following year. Edge and T. Davis, who I feel are better than Duece, couldn't comeback in less than a year. Why do people think Duece will be able to. I have no problem wiht people saying Deuce will get carries but I think Reggie will be "DA MAN" from day one and get more carries per game.
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I was big on Deuce at the beginning of last year too. Then I saw him run. He looked terrible even before the injury.You're too high on him.First, Deuce McAllister is a great back that is on a bad team. I think he is a better back than Edge and Davis as he is a workhorse with speed. If he were on KC people would be talking about him being the #1 overall pick (before the injury). Now to your point about the injury, yes it may take him some time to get to 100%, but if and when he is there is no way that Bush will be the guy toting the rock to move the chains and wear out the opponent. I don't care how Bush looked in college, a healthy McAllister is a better running back than Bush. Bush can do a lot of other things, but when it comes to controlling the game with the run Deuce would have my vote.
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Something has happened to him ... the accumulation of too many injuries or something. I love Deuce's heart and attitude -- just seems like his body's not responding like it did a few years ago. Maybe he can have a few years like Marcus Allen had for the Chiefs ... kind of hang around as a goal-line back or something. Deuce is sort of young to talk about his winding-down years, but that just might be where he is in his career.I was big on Deuce at the beginning of last year too. Then I saw him run. He looked terrible even before the injury.
You're too high on him.
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Chris Chambers and Lee Evans are stiffs too.I agree Tom Brady is a stiff....and that's about it, save a Ohio State player or two.Big10 churns out some good linemen too.ACC n SEC = NFL breading grounds!What conference had the #1 pick and completely owned the first round?A lot of us are just bored and would like to remind the board that the Pac10 = Conference of Champions.
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Yeah, I haven't been Mr. Bush's biggest advocate, but to say he lacks speed is patently ridiculous.
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No direspect dude,But couldn't a good argument be made that if the D's are really weak, they make a better than average player great? Making that player Heisman worthy/looking?Three out of the last 4 Heisman Trophies, 2 of the last 3 National ChampionshipsPac10 = Conference of ChampionsI've been saying that all year. I don't think he'll be average either, but the PAC-10 hasn't exactly been a juggernaught of a conference....ever?![]()
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What are you talking about?Bush is one of the most highly touted backs to come out of college in recent memory. Tony Dorsett already declared him the best running back on the planet.
What qualifies as "down", though?I'm looking for roughly Dominic-Davis level production on a per-touch basis ... maybe 10% higher. Would that be considered underacheiving?To me, Bush has only one direction to go... down. I've already pointed out how well he did agains GOOD non-Pac-10 defenses.
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The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.
Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.
1. Size Agreed
2. Lack of speed ?????
3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is Agreed
4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through Agreed
5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead Not so sure
6. USC trojans have a history of failure No clue ( does nt mean anything )
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Larry Johnson sucks!Chris Chambers and Lee Evans are stiffs too.I agree Tom Brady is a stiff....and that's about it, save a Ohio State player or two.Big10 churns out some good linemen too.ACC n SEC = NFL breading grounds!What conference had the #1 pick and completely owned the first round?A lot of us are just bored and would like to remind the board that the Pac10 = Conference of Champions.
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In a thread that isn't a fishing trip.What are you talking about?Bush is one of the most highly touted backs to come out of college in recent memory. Tony Dorsett already declared him the best running back on the planet.
My orginal post is infinitely more insightful than your disparaging post above.
If you think Bush will be great, please stand up and make an argument rather than trash talk other peoples opinions. To me, Bush has only one direction to go... down. I've already pointed out how well he did agains GOOD non-Pac-10 defenses.
Where's your points?
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Good point & POINTS...so to speak.This over-rated Reggie Bush had a chance to prove something to the Fantasy Football Universe during the 2006 Rose Bowl National Championship...he had the Odds-Makers backing him...he had the sports media backing him...he had the infamous USC NFL Offense, the USC Special Teams, and the USC Defense backing him. Heck, he even had the Home Field advantage!!!My biggest concern is if Deuce goes down and Bush is called on to step into a bigger role carry wise (assuming Bennett gets 5-10 carries). As seen, a lot of games saw Bush with only 8-16 carries with a few sparse 20+ carries thrown in here and there. Can he pull it off consistently against teams with much quicker defenses? Keep in mind he'd be playing against teams like Atlanta, Chicago, Tampa Bay, and Carolina.
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Heck, Reggie might even beat Bennett out, huh. Especially in ticket sales. Will that be enough to cover what the Saints end up paying Reggie??? The Saints are big spenders this year, paying a fortune for a QB with a questionable throwing arm or Wing, and probably paying more for Reggie than Houston paid for Mario. At least the Saints got Value for Bennett, but can they get the same from Reggie???Can we be clear here?....[SIZE=14pt]MICHAEL BENNETT WILL DO NOTHING IN NEW ORLEANS. WHICH IS MORE THAN HE DID IN MINNESOTA THE LAST TWO YEARS.[/SIZE]My biggest concern is if Deuce goes down and Bush is called on to step into a bigger role carry wise (assuming Bennett gets 5-10 carries). As seen, a lot of games saw Bush with only 8-16 carries with a few sparse 20+ carries thrown in here and there. Can he pull it off consistently against teams with much quicker defenses? Keep in mind he'd be playing against teams like Atlanta, Chicago, Tampa Bay, and Carolina.
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Apparently not, since sooooooooooooo *MANY still think that Houston screwed up, especially from the MSSM "experts". Reggie...pray that you never have to face Mario...pray on yore knees...pray on those knees for like thirty times a day!!! Reggie, take 'Da Money and run away from the NFL...just some Dualistic & Non-Dualistic advice.Yoda
Something has happened to him ... the accumulation of too many injuries or something. I love Deuce's heart and attitude -- just seems like his body's not responding like it did a few years ago. Maybe he can have a few years like Marcus Allen had for the Chiefs ... kind of hang around as a goal-line back or something. Deuce is sort of young to talk about his winding-down years, but that just might be where he is in his career.I was big on Deuce at the beginning of last year too. Then I saw him run. He looked terrible even before the injury.
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He was injury prone in college, and that carried on into the NFL. Mike Ditka ruined Ricky Williams, and the Saints 'tHoUgHt' that they understood RB's when Miami took Ricky off their hands. Reggie might not be injury prone, with 8-10 carries per game, but Deuce was and is, and Reggie was just a scat-back in college. Reggie best avoid hits in the NFL, and he can't avoid hits whilst carrying 'Da Ball more than 11 times per-game. This kid will fold in the NFL, faster than a White Boy in Prison, humble former inmate me suspects.... the accumulation of too many injuries or something.
Hey -- I'm convincedReggie might not be injury prone, with 8-10 carries per game, but Deuce was and is, and Reggie was just a scat-back in college. Reggie best avoid hits in the NFL, and he can't avoid hits whilst carrying 'Da Ball more than 11 times per-game. This kid will fold in the NFL, faster than a White Boy in Prison, humble former inmate me suspects.
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Just to keep the facts straight, we were well ahead of record pace for selling season tickets before the draft. Not having football last year, getting a new QB, and bringing in a new staff were selling tickets quite well. Bush is just the icing on the cake.
Really?[DavidLetterman]Just to keep the facts straight, we were well ahead of record pace for selling season tickets before the draft.
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Really?[DavidLetterman Johnny Carson]Just to keep the facts straight, we were well ahead of record pace for selling season tickets before the draft.
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Huh? Since when did Texas "slow Bush down"?13 carries for 82 yds and 1 TD (6.3 YPC)Good point & POINTS...so to speak.This over-rated Reggie Bush had a chance to prove something to the Fantasy Football Universe during the 2006 Rose Bowl National Championship...he had the Odds-Makers backing him...he had the sports media backing him...he had the infamous USC NFL Offense, the USC Special Teams, and the USC Defense backing him. Heck, he even had the Home Field advantage!!!My biggest concern is if Deuce goes down and Bush is called on to step into a bigger role carry wise (assuming Bennett gets 5-10 carries). As seen, a lot of games saw Bush with only 8-16 carries with a few sparse 20+ carries thrown in here and there. Can he pull it off consistently against teams with much quicker defenses? Keep in mind he'd be playing against teams like Atlanta, Chicago, Tampa Bay, and Carolina.
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QB Leinart, WR Jarrett, RB L. White, and the *WHOLE* USC Team did their Jobs, and a QB from Texas out-rushed Reggie *BIG* Time!!! If the University of Texas could slow Reggie down, then imagine what an NFL Defense will do.
The Saints wanted or needed Ticket Sales...Houston wants to win their Division, and more...and, didn't fall for the Reggie *HYPE*!!! RB's are so deep in the NFL right now, that a "Dom" can show up, have three great years at rushing and receiving. A RB Parker or RB Gado can come from nowhere, and go undrafted in the NFL and even in Fantasy Football. Dominic Rhodes/Joseph Addai look hot. Heck, i see at least 5 Rookie RB's that look better than Reggie now!!! What Dynasty Team Owner is going to cut McAllister or even Mewelde?!?
Basically, Reggie failed to win 'Da *BIG* One, even with all the help that he had (backing him up at the college level), and even with the MSSM (Mainstream Sports Media) backing him up. Fortunately for Reggie, he doesn't face Mario this year, but he is going to face some very Tough DE's this year.
Enough said...
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Huh? Since when did Texas "slow Bush down"?13 carries for 82 yds and 1 TD (6.3 YPC)Good point & POINTS...so to speak.This over-rated Reggie Bush had a chance to prove something to the Fantasy Football Universe during the 2006 Rose Bowl National Championship...he had the Odds-Makers backing him...he had the sports media backing him...he had the infamous USC NFL Offense, the USC Special Teams, and the USC Defense backing him. Heck, he even had the Home Field advantage!!!My biggest concern is if Deuce goes down and Bush is called on to step into a bigger role carry wise (assuming Bennett gets 5-10 carries). As seen, a lot of games saw Bush with only 8-16 carries with a few sparse 20+ carries thrown in here and there. Can he pull it off consistently against teams with much quicker defenses? Keep in mind he'd be playing against teams like Atlanta, Chicago, Tampa Bay, and Carolina.
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QB Leinart, WR Jarrett, RB L. White, and the *WHOLE* USC Team did their Jobs, and a QB from Texas out-rushed Reggie *BIG* Time!!! If the University of Texas could slow Reggie down, then imagine what an NFL Defense will do.
The Saints wanted or needed Ticket Sales...Houston wants to win their Division, and more...and, didn't fall for the Reggie *HYPE*!!! RB's are so deep in the NFL right now, that a "Dom" can show up, have three great years at rushing and receiving. A RB Parker or RB Gado can come from nowhere, and go undrafted in the NFL and even in Fantasy Football. Dominic Rhodes/Joseph Addai look hot. Heck, i see at least 5 Rookie RB's that look better than Reggie now!!! What Dynasty Team Owner is going to cut McAllister or even Mewelde?!?
Basically, Reggie failed to win 'Da *BIG* One, even with all the help that he had (backing him up at the college level), and even with the MSSM (Mainstream Sports Media) backing him up. Fortunately for Reggie, he doesn't face Mario this year, but he is going to face some very Tough DE's this year.
Enough said...
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6 receptions for 95 yds (15.8 YPR)
5 returns for 105 yds (21 YPR)
282 total yards on 24 touches = 11.75 YPT
Even if you take out return yards, you're looking at 177 total yards at 9.3 YPT
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1. See Barry Sanders2.The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.
Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.
1. Size
2. Lack of speed
3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is
4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through
5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead
6. USC trojans have a history of failure
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good to know, I am not alone on this call.The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.
Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.
1. Size
2. Lack of speed
3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is
4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through
5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead
6. USC trojans have a history of failure
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update?1. See Barry Sanders2.The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.
Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.
1. Size
2. Lack of speed
3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is
4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through
5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead
6. USC trojans have a history of failure
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4. The guy could juke 6 midgets in a 6 x 6 room
5. You give it to thunder on the goalline, not lightning
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