"Reggie Bush will be an average NFL player at (1 Viewer)

[Joe T]

The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.

Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.

1. Size

2. Lack of speed

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through

5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead

6. USC trojans have a history of failure

 

[RedRaiders]

Level of competition faced in college was pretty poor.

 

[coco the monkey]

2. Lack of speed

 

[slatercove1]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

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I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.

 

[cscmtp]

:11:

 

[Chaos Commish]

The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.

Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.

2. Lack of speed

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[joffer]

countdown to LHUCKS in 3....2....1....

 

[trader jake]

JoeT - list some "average" NFL RB's so i know who you are projecting reggie bush to be equal to

TIA

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Level of competition faced in college was pretty poor.

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How many games did he play in where the opposing team was ranked in the top 20-25 at the time...I seem to recall that USC did face some pretty good teams. Beat Auburn in their home stadium pretty easily...they went undefeated the next season...you can't say SC faced weak competition...absolutely destroyed Oklahoma...when your the best team...every team is weak.

 

[LHUCKS]

The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.

Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.

1. Size

2. Lack of speed

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through

5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead

6. USC trojans have a history of failure

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1. See Barry Sanders2.

3. True

4. The guy could juke 6 midgets in a 6 x 6 room

5. You give it to thunder on the goalline, not lightning

6.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

2. Lack of speed     

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Yeah, I haven't been Mr. Bush's biggest advocate, but to say he lacks speed is patently ridiculous.

 

[Sinrman]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

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I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.
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I've been saying that all year. I don't think he'll be average either, but the PAC-10 hasn't exactly been a juggernaught of a conference....ever?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.

Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.

1. Size

2. Lack of speed

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through

5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead

6. USC trojans have a history of failure

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1. Size: What's wrong with his size? DId you watch him bounce off his own head and into the end zone. This guy is tough

2. Speed: R U Kidding me?

3. Pac-10: major conference...football in the pac-10 is fun to wacth and there is loads of talent there.

4. Oline: Good Oline just like many other major schools.

5. ??? Talk to Pete Carroll

6. O.J. Simpson was a real bust in the NFL

 

[LHUCKS]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

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I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.
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I've been saying that all year. I don't think he'll be average either, but the PAC-10 hasn't exactly been a juggernaught of a conference....ever?
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Three out of the last 4 Heisman Trophies, 2 of the last 3 National ChampionshipsPac10 = Conference of Champions

 

[FrostBite]

The Texans were smart to pass on one of the most overrated players to come out of college this side of Ryan Leaf.

Here are the reasons Bush is overrated and while he may not fail in the NFL, he will be extremely dissapointing.

1. Size

2. Lack of speed

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through

5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead

6. USC trojans have a history of failure

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If you change this thread to average Fantasy Football RB you might get a better response.To say that he will be an average NFL player is just silly. He will have an imediate impact on the game every time he steps on the field, including special teams.

Sure he may not put up godly FF numbers but he will be successful in the NFL.

Sounds like another JoeT

 

[P Boy]

Always nice to see such nice action this time of the year, even if the bait is stinky & weak.

 

[Joe T]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

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I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.
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Against good ACC VA TEch defense bush only went for 9 rush for 27 yards...3 YPC.Against auburn he went for 5 rush for 9 yards no tds.

Michigan 8 for 41 no tds.

Notre dame 8 for 25 no tds.

 

[LHUCKS]

Always nice to see such nice action this time of the year, even if the bait is stinky & weak.

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But you know some chump is actually agreeing with the post, so I have to represent the Pac.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

So what you're saying is that NFL franchises shouldn't draft anyone without these qualifications:

1. Big

2. Fast

3. Big 12 or ACC competition

4. Crappy linemen

5. Didn't share the backfield with another productive back

Gotcha

 

[Evilgrin 72]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

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I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.
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I've been saying that all year. I don't think he'll be average either, but the PAC-10 hasn't exactly been a juggernaught of a conference....ever?
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Three out of the last 4 Heisman Trophies, 2 of the last 3 National ChampionshipsUSC = Program of Champions

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Fixed.

 

[LHUCKS]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

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I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.
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Against good ACC VA TEch defense bush only went for 9 rush for 27 yards...3 YPC.Against auburn he went for 5 rush for 9 yards no tds.

Michigan 8 for 41 no tds.

Notre dame 8 for 25 no tds.



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Receiving Yards and Special Teams?

 

[carlosnphilly]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

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I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.
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I've been saying that all year. I don't think he'll be average either, but the PAC-10 hasn't exactly been a juggernaught of a conference....ever?
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Pac10 = Conference of Champions with one great team and no defense.
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[LHUCKS]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I've been saying that all year. I don't think he'll be average either, but the PAC-10 hasn't exactly been a juggernaught of a conference....ever?
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Three out of the last 4 Heisman Trophies, 2 of the last 3 National ChampionshipsUSC = Program of Champions

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Fixed.
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So I guess we'll just take Texas from the Big12 and Miami from the ACC etc. etc.

 

[Joe T]

JoeT - list some "average" NFL RB's so i know who you are projecting reggie bush to be equal to

TIA

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Herchel WalkerChris Perry

Anthony Thomas

 

[FrostBite]

Always nice to see such nice action this time of the year, even if the bait is stinky & weak.

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when it comes to bait... the stinkier the better.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I left this one separate:

6. USC trojans have a history of failure

Let's see:

OJ Simpson

Marcus Allen

Charles White

Yep. No success there.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

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I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.
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Against good ACC VA TEch defense bush only went for 9 rush for 27 yards...3 YPC.Against auburn he went for 5 rush for 9 yards no tds.

Michigan 8 for 41 no tds.

Notre dame 8 for 25 no tds.



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Receiving Yards and Special Teams?
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2nd pick in the draft for a special teamer?He also had a left handed QB handing him the ball in College, his speed will be slowed by a righty.

Keep in mind he has never had true Southern food, his waist line should start to look like White's real soon.

 

[bagger.]

Bush is a poor man's Napolean Kaufman.

 

[LHUCKS]

I left this one separate:

6. USC trojans have a history of failure

Let's see:

OJ Simpson

Marcus Allen

Charles White

Yep.  No success there.

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We'll just ignore the long list of Trojans in the HOF. Classic JoeT fishing trip.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Bush is a poor man's Napolean Kaufman.

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He's either Dave Meggett or Eric Metcalf.NO WAIT! He's This Guy.

 

[P Boy]

Bush is a poor man's Napolean Kaufman.

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[LHUCKS]

this thread is going to be bumpalicious.

 

[EBF]

Nope.

He'll be a star.

 

[LAUNCH]

10/15/05 at Notre Dame 34-31 15 163 3TDs 4 35

01/04/06 Texas 38-41 13 84 1TD 6 95

Guy is horrid....

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I'm really not getting the lack of speed comment.

 

[LHUCKS]

DATE OPP RESULT   ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST 9/3 @Hawaii W 63-17  12 86 7.2 41 2 4 58 14.5 20 0 0 0 9/17 Arkansas W 70-17  8 125 15.6 76 1 3 70 23.3 40 1 0 0 9/24 @Oregon W 45-13  20 122 6.1 38 1 3 43 14.3 19 1 0 0 10/1 @Arizona State W 38-28  17 158 9.3 34 2 1 4 4.0 4 0 0 0 10/8 Arizona W 42-21  14 110 7.9 65 0 2 16 8.0 10 0 0 0 10/15 @Notre Dame W 34-31  15 160 10.7 45 3 4 35 8.8 13 0 0 0 10/22 @Washington W 51-24  8 51 6.4 11 1 2 18 9.0 12 0 0 0 10/29 Washington State W 55-13  17 97 5.7 14 0 4 40 10.0 17 0 0 0 11/5 Stanford W 51-21  12 113 9.4 42 1 4 27 6.8 9 0 0 0 11/12 @California W 35-10  17 82 4.8 20 0 1 4 4.0 4 0 0 0 11/19 Fresno State W 50-42  23 294 12.8 65 2 3 68 22.7 43 0 0 0 12/3 UCLA W 66-19  24 260 10.8 65 2 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0

 

[Andy Dufresne]

He's slower than Michael Bennett. How can he possibly have a better career?

 

[joffer]

I'm really not getting the lack of speed comment.

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it is curious. it turns this from a typical "off the wall" Joe T thread into :11:

 

[Capella]

RedRaiders, bagger, JZilla, CGRdrJoe

hey guys. how's chat today?

 

[EBF]

1. Size

This is a minor issue, but he's right there with Portis, Barber, Westbrook, and Faulk. Ten more pounds would be nice, but he's big enough.

2. Lack of speed

He's the fastest RB to be chosen in the first round since Michael Bennett. Speed is not an issue.

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

No one expects him to average 8 YPC in the NFL.

4. NFL type offensive line opening holes that General Malaise could run through

That's why it helps to be so quick.

5. Wasn't in for the last play in the national championship game, 2nd round pick in the draft was in instead

Weak argument. Tiki loses goal line touches to Brandon Jacobs. Who's better?

6. USC trojans have a history of failure

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Irrelevant.

 

[wadegarrett]

DATE OPP RESULT   ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST 9/3 @Hawaii W 63-17  12 86 7.2 41 2 4 58 14.5 20 0 0 0 9/17 Arkansas W 70-17  8 125 15.6 76 1 3 70 23.3 40 1 0 0 9/24 @Oregon W 45-13  20 122 6.1 38 1 3 43 14.3 19 1 0 0 10/1 @Arizona State W 38-28  17 158 9.3 34 2 1 4 4.0 4 0 0 0 10/8 Arizona W 42-21  14 110 7.9 65 0 2 16 8.0 10 0 0 0 10/15 @Notre Dame W 34-31  15 160 10.7 45 3 4 35 8.8 13 0 0 0 10/22 @Washington W 51-24  8 51 6.4 11 1 2 18 9.0 12 0 0 0 10/29 Washington State W 55-13  17 97 5.7 14 0 4 40 10.0 17 0 0 0 11/5 Stanford W 51-21  12 113 9.4 42 1 4 27 6.8 9 0 0 0 11/12 @California W 35-10  17 82 4.8 20 0 1 4 4.0 4 0 0 0 11/19 Fresno State W 50-42  23 294 12.8 65 2 3 68 22.7 43 0 0 0 12/3 UCLA W 66-19  24 260 10.8 65 2 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Some real powerhouse defenses on this list.

 

[Wade]

Would love to see this fishing trip turn into a quality post...any Reggie Bush projections in New Orleans?

In Texas, I thought he might have 1400 total yards and 10 total TDs

 

[Evilgrin 72]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

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I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.
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I've been saying that all year. I don't think he'll be average either, but the PAC-10 hasn't exactly been a juggernaught of a conference....ever?
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Three out of the last 4 Heisman Trophies, 2 of the last 3 National ChampionshipsUSC = Program of Champions

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Fixed.
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So I guess we'll just take Texas from the Big12 and Miami from the ACC etc. etc.
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I don't think anyone was calling the Big East "Conference of Champions" when Miami was winning titles and the rest of the conference got crushed by Miami, pummeled Rutgers and Temple, and split the rest of the their conference games every season.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Would love to see this fishing trip turn into a quality post...any Reggie Bush projections in New Orleans?

In Texas, I thought he might have 1400 total yards and 10 total TDs

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Depends on three factors:1) Deuce's health

2) Brees' health

3) Does he get to camp on time?

 

[psychobillies]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

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I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.
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I've been saying that all year. I don't think he'll be average either, but the PAC-10 hasn't exactly been a juggernaught of a conference....ever?
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Three out of the last 4 Heisman Trophies, 2 of the last 3 National ChampionshipsPac10 = Conference of Champions

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They have ONE of the past three National Championships, and if they had to play Auburn that year, they wouldn't have any. They have been the 2nd best team in the nation for three years which is pretty impressive.I'm really not interested in bashing the Pac 10 anymore, but I have to put the facts out there.

 

[Couch Potato]

Joe T = Fisherman, and he's hauling in a whole net full with this one.

 

[bagger.]

3. Weak Pac-10 defenses made him look better than he is

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I don't think he'll be average, but this is a tremendous statement.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I've been saying that all year. I don't think he'll be average either, but the PAC-10 hasn't exactly been a juggernaught of a conference....ever?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Three out of the last 4 Heisman Trophies, 2 of the last 3 National ChampionshipsPac10 = Conference of Champions

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They have ONE of the past three National Championships, and if they had to play Auburn that year, they wouldn't have any. They have been the 2nd best team in the nation for three years which is pretty impressive.I'm really not interested in bashing the Pac 10 anymore, but I have to put the facts out there.

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BCS disagrees with you.

 

[bagger.]

RedRaiders, bagger, JZilla, CGRdrJoe

hey guys. how's chat today?
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Quality over quantity.

 

[ScottNorwood]

With the hype Reggie is getting, he has no chance to do anything but disappoint.

 

[mad sweeney]

I left this one separate:

6. USC trojans have a history of failure

Let's see:

OJ Simpson

Marcus Allen

Charles White

Yep.  No success there.

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Don't forget current Tojan failures Carson Palmer, Troy Paluamalowhatever and Lofa Tatupu.