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Seems to be one of the players that generally flies under the radar. The guy has put up consistent numbers since getting a legit QB on the team.

According to my numbers, he was second in the NFL in targets in 2009. He was also a key contributor inside the red-zone. Personally, I think he's due for 1500 yds and 12 TDs this year.

Does Matt Ryan progress as a QB, and elevate White with him? Is this the year he goes from second tier WR to top tier WR?

 
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Seems to be one of the players that generally flies under the radar. The guy has put up consistent numbers since getting a legit QB on the team. According to my numbers, he was second in the NFL in targets in 2009. He was also a key contributor inside the red-zone. Personally, I think he's due for 1500 yds and 12 TDs this year. Does Matt Ryan progress as a QB, and elevate White with him? Is this the year he goes from second tier WR to top tier WR?
Over the last 2 years, his average is about 1300 yards and 9 tds. It's possible he does a little more, but those numbers are pretty good. Not sure he will ever be an elite TD guy at 6 feet tall. He doesn't have the height and wingspan to be dominant in the redzone.
 
Seems to be one of the players that generally flies under the radar. The guy has put up consistent numbers since getting a legit QB on the team. According to my numbers, he was second in the NFL in targets in 2009. He was also a key contributor inside the red-zone. Personally, I think he's due for 1500 yds and 12 TDs this year. Does Matt Ryan progress as a QB, and elevate White with him? Is this the year he goes from second tier WR to top tier WR?
I would say he already is an elite WR. He was 6th and 5th at WR over the last 2 years in my league. The only other WRs to produce those consistently strong numbers the last 2 years were AJ and Moss.
 
Ready to? :P
Yeah, my thoughts as well. However, in the OP's defense he asks if others think he's ready to ascend to tier one. So we're probably just dealing with semantics because I'd imagine that he's more commonly in most people's second, rather than first tier. In that vein, he posits a valid question. 'Course, a lot of people probably have a tier one consisting of one player-AJ. So, back to square one (unless one wants to argue White performs on Johnson's plateau). Anyway, rambling aside, I'd say White has earned the right to consideration of a spot immediately behind AJ with Moss, Calvin Johnson, et. al. And yes, to me, that's elite.
 
Huh. I thought he was a top 3 receiver already. It can get more elite than that?
I think you have to finish top 3 atleast once before you can be considered top 3..imo AJMOSSFITZCALVINAUSTIN WHITETop 6 perhaps
This year, I put him behind AJ and Moss.Dynasty, I put him behind AJ and right on the same level as Fitz. Usually below Fitz, but week to week he moves into a tie. I think consistent 1200/8 stats are totally worth a top 3 pick. You're gonna say if he finishes 5th or 6th every year for 5 more he wasn't a top 3 guy? He's incredibly consistent.
 
I was shocked that he was only the 9th WR selected (by me) in my draft last Sunday. A good case could be made for all the WRs selected ahead of him though.

 
White is like the Rodney Dangerfield of fantasy WR's. Gets no respect, but year in and year out produces solid numbers! Need an example. I'm in a 10 team PPR league and got him in the third round drafting in the 8th spot. (38 overall) Talk about value. Don't let that happen in your drafts. My projections for Roddy this year...

90 catches, 1200+ yards, 10 TDs

:lmao:

 
Highest floor (other than Andre?) lowest ceiling- elite already
would you draft him over wayne / moss / austin / calvin?
three of those four were off the board before White.I took him with confidence over Calvin Johnson at 2.6
I'm not a huge Calvin Johnson fan, but I'd like to know your thinking for that. I'd have to go Johnson. The Falcons are a running team and the Lions, while emerging, will likely be playing from behind a lot. I think most folks would agree that Calvin Johnson is a better raw talent than Roddy White. What are the intangibles that put White over the top for you?
 
Highest floor (other than Andre?) lowest ceiling- elite already
would you draft him over wayne / moss / austin / calvin?
I would draft him over Austin and I'm a Cowboys fan. Calvin is a push.
May I ask why? I'm pretty high on Austin and would like to hear a homers opinion.
Not to steal anyone's thunder, but I took White over Austin as a Cowboys fan because I think White has more consistency and Ryan/Falcons in general had a down year last year. Room to grow for Ryan/White, IMO. I do like Austin but I guess I'm a bit concerned about the vets any time a team spends a high draft pick on a skill player. I know that Dallas plans to use Bryant and Austin 1 and 2, but I don't know if they think Austin can be a 1 or if they project him as a two, ya know. Usually when teams make those high draft picks it's because they think they need help at that position and are maybe not super excited about who they've got.Wayne and Moss could go either way. I took White over them because you just wonder when Wayne/Moss will hit the wall that Marvin Harrison/TO have recently hit.Calvin I agree is a push. Like Matt Ryan and the Falcons, I think Stafford and the Lions had a down year and will be improved. I liked Johnson but he was gone by the time my 2nd round pick came around so it made my decision.All good WR's.. just depends on your +/-.
 
Highest floor (other than Andre?) lowest ceiling- elite already
would you draft him over wayne / moss / austin / calvin?
I would draft him over Austin and I'm a Cowboys fan. Calvin is a push.
May I ask why? I'm pretty high on Austin and would like to hear a homers opinion.
Not to steal anyone's thunder, but I took White over Austin as a Cowboys fan because I think White has more consistency and Ryan/Falcons in general had a down year last year. Room to grow for Ryan/White, IMO. I do like Austin but I guess I'm a bit concerned about the vets any time a team spends a high draft pick on a skill player. I know that Dallas plans to use Bryant and Austin 1 and 2, but I don't know if they think Austin can be a 1 or if they project him as a two, ya know. Usually when teams make those high draft picks it's because they think they need help at that position and are maybe not super excited about who they've got.Wayne and Moss could go either way. I took White over them because you just wonder when Wayne/Moss will hit the wall that Marvin Harrison/TO have recently hit.Calvin I agree is a push. Like Matt Ryan and the Falcons, I think Stafford and the Lions had a down year and will be improved. I liked Johnson but he was gone by the time my 2nd round pick came around so it made my decision.All good WR's.. just depends on your +/-.
Ok, I can see your thought process. I thought Dallas took Dez because of how he fell in the draft relative to talent level. I can't see a team feeling like their 26 year old WR who just got 81 balls for 1300 yards and 11 TDs needs to be replaced immediately.
 
I had him at 3, but you know what?...when it came down to it (and it did), I couldn't pull the trigger. I just wanted more upside. Oh it could come back to bite me, I know, but I like taking a shot. So I took Calvin Johnson instead.

 
Highest floor (other than Andre?) lowest ceiling- elite already
would you draft him over wayne / moss / austin / calvin?
three of those four were off the board before White.I took him with confidence over Calvin Johnson at 2.6
I'm not a huge Calvin Johnson fan, but I'd like to know your thinking for that. I'd have to go Johnson. The Falcons are a running team and the Lions, while emerging, will likely be playing from behind a lot. I think most folks would agree that Calvin Johnson is a better raw talent than Roddy White. What are the intangibles that put White over the top for you?
Proven consistent production, a better QB, the fact they have a great running game opens up the deep ball and Roddy White is just a more reliable player at this stage. I love Calvin's raw talent, and I agree he is a better physical player but the proof is in the pudding and Roddy White is going into his absolute prime.Calvin may finally have that bust out year but I felt Roddy was more of a sure thing for my WR1.Calvin has got to show me a little more to be my number one.I matched up Roddy with Colston so I am feeling very confident about my 2 WR's week in week out. I took more chance at RB with Best, Foster, Bradshaw. With my WR's I don't play around. They are too week to week so I want reliable targets who stay healthy. Colston did have a injury 2 years ago yes...but he has proven his worth. Calvin just seems to always have some type of injury or another that holds him back.My 2 cents.
 
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Highest floor (other than Andre?) lowest ceiling- elite already
would you draft him over wayne / moss / austin / calvin?
three of those four were off the board before White.

I took him with confidence over Calvin Johnson at 2.6
I'm not a huge Calvin Johnson fan, but I'd like to know your thinking for that. I'd have to go Johnson. The Falcons are a running team and the Lions, while emerging, will likely be playing from behind a lot. I think most folks would agree that Calvin Johnson is a better raw talent than Roddy White. What are the intangibles that put White over the top for you?
Proven consistent production, a better QB, the fact they have a great running game opens up the deep ball and Roddy White is just a more reliable player at this stage. I love Calvin's raw talent, and I agree he is a better physical player but the proof is in the pudding and Roddy White is going into his absolute prime.Calvin may finally have that bust out year but I felt Roddy was more of a sure thing for my WR1.

Calvin has got to show me a little more to be my number one.

I matched up Roddy with Colston so I am feeling very confident about my 2 WR's week in week out. I took more chance at RB with Best, Foster, Bradshaw. With my WR's I don't play around. They are too week to week so I want reliable targets who stay healthy. Colston did have a injury 2 years ago yes...but he has proven his worth. Calvin just seems to always have some type of injury or another that holds him back.

My 2 cents.
2008 he had 1300 yards and 12 TDs and was the #3 WR in fantasy, that wasn't his breakout year??? I know he regressed last year, but Stafford looks sharp and I expect his numbers to be a lot closer to those 08 numbers.Let me add to this, over the last 2 years Roddy White has 2,535 yards and 18 TDs. Calvin has 2,315 yards and 17 TDs. There isn't nearly the disparity in production that you think.

 
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I'm not a huge Calvin Johnson fan, but I'd like to know your thinking for that. I'd have to go Johnson. The Falcons are a running team and the Lions, while emerging, will likely be playing from behind a lot.

I think most folks would agree that Calvin Johnson is a better raw talent than Roddy White. What are the intangibles that put White over the top for you?

Proven consistent production, a better QB, the fact they have a great running game opens up the deep ball and Roddy White is just a more reliable player at this stage. I love Calvin's raw talent, and I agree he is a better physical player but the proof is in the pudding and Roddy White is going into his absolute prime.

Calvin may finally have that bust out year but I felt Roddy was more of a sure thing for my WR1.

Calvin has got to show me a little more to be my number one.

I matched up Roddy with Colston so I am feeling very confident about my 2 WR's week in week out. I took more chance at RB with Best, Foster, Bradshaw. With my WR's I don't play around. They are too week to week so I want reliable targets who stay healthy. Colston did have a injury 2 years ago yes...but he has proven his worth. Calvin just seems to always have some type of injury or another that holds him back.

My 2 cents.

2008 he had 1300 yards and 12 TDs and was the #3 WR in fantasy, that wasn't his breakout year??? I know he regressed last year, but Stafford looks sharp and I expect his numbers to be a lot closer to those 08 numbers.

Let me add to this, over the last 2 years Roddy White has 2,535 yards and 18 TDs. Calvin has 2,315 yards and 17 TDs. There isn't nearly the disparity in production that you think.

Yeah he did have a great year Roddy has had 3 now I believe. Either way we are asking what do want a T-Bone or a Porterhouse

They are both great players. Flip a coin....I don't think you will go wrong with either. I just don't trust the Lions and Stafford as much as I trust Ryan and the Falcons.

Calvin did regress...a lot. Roddy seems to be getting stronger and stronger.

It's a matter of trust.

 
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I had a decision to go P Manning or M Austin at 2.8 (non ppr). I went Manning, and caught Roddy at 3.3. On the flip side another GM at 2.9 and 3.2 got Austin and Brady. Initially, I was questioning which pair I'd rather have.

Generally I like players in better balanced offenses, even if it means less targets or less red zone looks. I tend to think ease of production might lend itself to better consistency, which is why I would've drafted Miles over Roddy. But now after seeing Dallas O-line problems, it might have been a blessing in disguise.

 
would you draft him over wayne / moss / austin / calvin?
three of those four were off the board before White.

I took him with confidence over Calvin Johnson at 2.6
I'm not a huge Calvin Johnson fan, but I'd like to know your thinking for that. I'd have to go Johnson. The Falcons are a running team and the Lions, while emerging, will likely be playing from behind a lot. I think most folks would agree that Calvin Johnson is a better raw talent than Roddy White. What are the intangibles that put White over the top for you?
Proven consistent production, a better QB, the fact they have a great running game opens up the deep ball and Roddy White is just a more reliable player at this stage. I love Calvin's raw talent, and I agree he is a better physical player but the proof is in the pudding and Roddy White is going into his absolute prime.Calvin may finally have that bust out year but I felt Roddy was more of a sure thing for my WR1.

Calvin has got to show me a little more to be my number one.

I matched up Roddy with Colston so I am feeling very confident about my 2 WR's week in week out. I took more chance at RB with Best, Foster, Bradshaw. With my WR's I don't play around. They are too week to week so I want reliable targets who stay healthy. Colston did have a injury 2 years ago yes...but he has proven his worth. Calvin just seems to always have some type of injury or another that holds him back.

My 2 cents.
2008 he had 1300 yards and 12 TDs and was the #3 WR in fantasy, that wasn't his breakout year??? I know he regressed last year, but Stafford looks sharp and I expect his numbers to be a lot closer to those 08 numbers.Let me add to this, over the last 2 years Roddy White has 2,535 yards and 18 TDs. Calvin has 2,315 yards and 17 TDs. There isn't nearly the disparity in production that you think.
The difference is Best and Stafford, for the most part. That's a pretty big *potential* difference.
 
Highest floor (other than Andre?) lowest ceiling- elite already
would you draft him over wayne / moss / austin / calvin?
three of those four were off the board before White.I took him with confidence over Calvin Johnson at 2.6
I'm not a huge Calvin Johnson fan, but I'd like to know your thinking for that. I'd have to go Johnson. The Falcons are a running team and the Lions, while emerging, will likely be playing from behind a lot. I think most folks would agree that Calvin Johnson is a better raw talent than Roddy White. What are the intangibles that put White over the top for you?
Proven consistent production, a better QB, the fact they have a great running game opens up the deep ball and Roddy White is just a more reliable player at this stage. I love Calvin's raw talent, and I agree he is a better physical player but the proof is in the pudding and Roddy White is going into his absolute prime.Calvin may finally have that bust out year but I felt Roddy was more of a sure thing for my WR1.Calvin has got to show me a little more to be my number one.I matched up Roddy with Colston so I am feeling very confident about my 2 WR's week in week out. I took more chance at RB with Best, Foster, Bradshaw. With my WR's I don't play around. They are too week to week so I want reliable targets who stay healthy. Colston did have a injury 2 years ago yes...but he has proven his worth. Calvin just seems to always have some type of injury or another that holds him back.My 2 cents.
Thanks. With the emergence of Stafford (predicted, of course) I still think I'd go with Calvin because I don't see them running as much. But it's not like I'd consider White a bad choice. Neither will be the reason a fantasy team struggles.
 
What's odd to me is that my greatest "concern" or negative for Roddy hasn't even been mentioned, unless I missed it. TE Tony G looks to be QB Ryan's go to guy. I think that there is an absolute tier 1 of TEs that consist of Gates (w no Jackson), DClark, TGonzales, and JFinley. Gonzales cuts into Roddy's touches big time, especially on third on long. Just my opinion. I think the top tier WR this year are AJ, RMoss, Calvin Johnson. Tier two includes Wayne, White, Austin, Fitz, Colston, Jennings...these guys with the exception of Fitz in a poor QB situation, all have elite TEs.

 
Seems to be one of the players that generally flies under the radar. The guy has put up consistent numbers since getting a legit QB on the team. According to my numbers, he was second in the NFL in targets in 2009. He was also a key contributor inside the red-zone. Personally, I think he's due for 1500 yds and 12 TDs this year.

Does Matt Ryan progress as a QB, and elevate White with him? Is this the year he goes from second tier WR to top tier WR?
Legit QB? Really? Check his '07 stats, then remember who the QBs were. Joey Harrington, Chris Redman and Byron Leftwich, yeah real legit. Then a rookie in '08, I know it was Matt Ryan, but still a rookie. Like another poster said. Roddy White IS ELITE.
 
Help, I need a reset. I've not watched a lot of Falcons football.

Roddy White has posted great FF numbers the past 2-3 seasons. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall he had "drop" issues his first two seasons in the NFL. ... please, nobody revisit the Michael Vick angle here.

My question: are his receiving skills stellar, or is he just a very good WR in a very good situation? In terms of raw skill, is Roddy White top 10?

 
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DoubleG said:
Highest floor (other than Andre?) lowest ceiling- elite already
would you draft him over wayne / moss / austin / calvin?
yes/no/yes/yes and ahead of Fitz too.Basically, my WR ranks for redraft this season look like this:

1) AJ

2) Moss

3) White

4) Wayne

5) Austin

6) Calvin
And then that's what I have too. Roddy is like AJ, Calvin is like Moss. The first two are amazing hands guys who move the chains and get a lot of looks. Moss and Calvin can certainly do that too, but I expect them to be deep ball long TD guys who explode every game or two and produce slightly above average week in and week out. Roddy/AJ have less explosion game to game, but all of theirs should be a lot above average week in and week out.
 
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What's odd to me is that my greatest "concern" or negative for Roddy hasn't even been mentioned, unless I missed it. TE Tony G looks to be QB Ryan's go to guy. I think that there is an absolute tier 1 of TEs that consist of Gates (w no Jackson), DClark, TGonzales, and JFinley. Gonzales cuts into Roddy's touches big time, especially on third on long.
Roddy had 165 targets (10.3 per game) to Tony's 135 (8.4/game) last year, and Roddy's 165 targets were up from 148 (9.2/game) from 2008.I wouldn't call that preferring Gonzalez over Roddy by any stretch - plus Tony is another year older on the wrong side of 30.
 
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What's odd to me is that my greatest "concern" or negative for Roddy hasn't even been mentioned, unless I missed it. TE Tony G looks to be QB Ryan's go to guy. I think that there is an absolute tier 1 of TEs that consist of Gates (w no Jackson), DClark, TGonzales, and JFinley. Gonzales cuts into Roddy's touches big time, especially on third on long.
Roddy had 165 targets (10.3 per game) to Tony's 135 (8.4/game) last year, and Roddy's 165 targets were up from 148 (9.2/game) from 2008.I wouldn't call that preferring Gonzalez over Roddy by any stretch - plus Tony is another year older on the wrong side of 30.
Fair enough, I don't follow the Falcons closely and I certainly can't argue those numbers. In the games that I've seen, including one preseason game this year, it seems that Gonzalez gets a ton of looks that in his absense (or the absense of an elite TE) would go to the WRs. Gonzalez does attract attention from a safety on the plus side.
 
Next to Reggie Wayne, Randy Moss and Andre Johnson I don't think you will find more of a sure thing at WR1 this year. Some of the greats have some ?? about them either due to QB issues, changing teams etc.

When your in the second round and you are looking for your week in week out #1 and the other 3 I mentioned are gone...Roddy White is your guy.

 
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If the last three seasons mean anything, the guy is a lock for 80+ catches and around 1,200 yards. Throw in 8-10 TDs and that sounds pretty studly to me. I'd take him in a heartbeat as my number 1 WR.

 
If the last three seasons mean anything, the guy is a lock for 80+ catches and around 1,200 yards. Throw in 8-10 TDs and that sounds pretty studly to me. I'd take him in a heartbeat as my number 1 WR.
Bingo. A great upward trend. This year he is poised for his best ever.

 
If the last three seasons mean anything, the guy is a lock for 80+ catches and around 1,200 yards. Throw in 8-10 TDs and that sounds pretty studly to me. I'd take him in a heartbeat as my number 1 WR.
This is my first year at FFG, and it's amazing how much better prepared I am for the upcoming season. Guys like Roddy who don't get the publicity I would always be down on, just because his name wasn't Moss or AJ. I traded for Roddy this off season to upgrade my WR keepers and I feel ecstatic. Roddy is a elite talent that has performed with mediocre QB play. He might not have the upside of AJ, but you can miss with him in the 2nd.
 
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There is a case to be made for all the top 6 or 7 WRs to be taken over White. I am not sure I agree with most of them but I do think they have valid arguments.

I have owned White for a number of years and he has been great, but one concern I have is the fact that his repections per target seem a little low.... but this also means he has the chance to take a great jump in PPR if he starts hauling those in.

As far as his value is concerned .. Im kind of puzzled.

I have tried to trade him numerous times this offseason but the only decent offer I recieved was Ryan Grant....kinda odd for someone who's stock is soaring.

 
If the last three seasons mean anything, the guy is a lock for 80+ catches and around 1,200 yards. Throw in 8-10 TDs and that sounds pretty studly to me. I'd take him in a heartbeat as my number 1 WR.
Bingo. A great upward trend. This year he is poised for his best ever.
No upward trend. In standard scoring league, he averaged the exact same ppg in 09 as he did in 08. His TDs were down last year, but his yards were up. I love White and expect him to be right in the same range this year.
 
If the last three seasons mean anything, the guy is a lock for 80+ catches and around 1,200 yards. Throw in 8-10 TDs and that sounds pretty studly to me. I'd take him in a heartbeat as my number 1 WR.
Bingo. A great upward trend. This year he is poised for his best ever.
No upward trend. In standard scoring league, he averaged the exact same ppg in 09 as he did in 08. His TDs were down last year, but his yards were up. I love White and expect him to be right in the same range this year.
PPR he is trending up this year. No doubt in my mind.

 
Mister CIA said:
Help, I need a reset. I've not watched a lot of Falcons football. Roddy White has posted great FF numbers the past 2-3 seasons. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall he had "drop" issues his first two seasons in the NFL. ... please, nobody revisit the Michael Vick angle here. My question: are his receiving skills stellar, or is he just a very good WR in a very good situation? In terms of raw skill, is Roddy White top 10?
IMO, White is a very good WR. He does not have elite raw skill, but he is very polished. He is a veteran who has put a lot of effort into improving his game and while he may not be as fast as DeSean Jackson, as tall as Calvin, or be as strong as Andre, he has found success. I would compare him to Reggie Wayne. His excellence comes from good route running more than elite physical skills.
 
If the last three seasons mean anything, the guy is a lock for 80+ catches and around 1,200 yards. Throw in 8-10 TDs and that sounds pretty studly to me. I'd take him in a heartbeat as my number 1 WR.
Bingo. A great upward trend. This year he is poised for his best ever.
No upward trend. In standard scoring league, he averaged the exact same ppg in 09 as he did in 08. His TDs were down last year, but his yards were up. I love White and expect him to be right in the same range this year.
PPR he is trending up this year. No doubt in my mind.
Maybe. He got more targets than ever last year, but it didn't really show in his production. His receptions over the last 3 years: 83,88,85.
 

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