Roethlisberger Accused of Sexual Assault Again (1 Viewer)

[Peggy Starfish]

Having said that, you still don't know what you're talking about regarding Georgia law.

This is clipped form Gergia Law...16-6-22.1. Sexual battery.

(a) For the purposes of this Code section, the term "intimate parts"

means the primary genital area, ######, groin, inner thighs, or buttocks

of a male or female and the breasts of a female.

(b) A person commits the offense of sexual battery when he

intentionally makes physical contact with the intimate parts of the body

of another person without the consent of that person.

© A person convicted of the offense of sexual battery shall be

punished as for a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.

16-6-22.2. Aggravated sexual battery.

(a) For the purposes of this Code section, the term "foreign object"

means any article or instrument other than the sexual organ of a person.

(b) A person commits the offense of aggravated sexual battery when he

intentionally penetrates with a foreign object the sexual organ or ######

of another person without the consent of that person.

© A person convicted of the offense of aggravated sexual battery

shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than 20

years.

You want to break that down for us Alan Dershawitz? I don't see anything about alcohol here but perhaps it is as straight forward as you touch them without consent...

You forgot to define "consent", which was what this whole debate was about, Cicero.

 

[ptsteelers]

Pretty ironic that that's from a KISS song.

Ahhh, youth. You can tell the age. No, not The Who, but KISS.

I can't believe this schtick keeps reeling them in.Nice work redtbellstarfishfan.

Ahhh, ignorance. When you totally miss a joke and reply to a post you had no business replying to.Yep, must have fell into a hole I didn't see.DOHNothing to see here, move along. Just an old fart putting foot squarely in mouth.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Having said that, you still don't know what you're talking about regarding Georgia law.

This is clipped form Gergia Law...16-6-22.1. Sexual battery.

(a) For the purposes of this Code section, the term "intimate parts"

means the primary genital area, ######, groin, inner thighs, or buttocks

of a male or female and the breasts of a female.

(b) A person commits the offense of sexual battery when he

intentionally makes physical contact with the intimate parts of the body

of another person without the consent of that person.

© A person convicted of the offense of sexual battery shall be

punished as for a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.

16-6-22.2. Aggravated sexual battery.

(a) For the purposes of this Code section, the term "foreign object"

means any article or instrument other than the sexual organ of a person.

(b) A person commits the offense of aggravated sexual battery when he

intentionally penetrates with a foreign object the sexual organ or ######

of another person without the consent of that person.

© A person convicted of the offense of aggravated sexual battery

shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than 20

years.

You want to break that down for us Alan Dershawitz? I don't see anything about alcohol here but perhaps it is as straight forward as you touch them without consent...

You forgot to define "consent", which was what this whole debate was about, Cicero.

Woman "I didn't consent"Police...charges filed.

Yes/No? Alcohol doesn't play a factor it seems in the beginning of this. The defense can bring it up and use it as their defense but it doesn't say a word about alcohol here.

I'm just guessing but I bet charges get filed against him. I didn't feel that way when I first heard about this but it feels like something transpired here. Maybe everyone feels differently, that's fine.

 

[CrossEyed]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Satan on it. I guess his allegiances have changed over the years.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Satan on it. I guess his allegiances have changed over the years.

He's been a steeler for years. How did you think those two superbowl wins happened? Old Scratch is just coming to take is due now.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Satan on it. I guess his allegiances have changed over the years.

I must have been living under a rock. What does PFJ mean?

 

[Couch Potato]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Satan on it. I guess his allegiances have changed over the years.

I must have been living under a rock. What does PFJ mean?

People's Front of Judea (Monty Python's movie Life of Brian)
"From now on, I want you all to call me Loretta"

I think CrossEyed means "Play For Jesus" however.

 

[Peggy Starfish]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Satan on it. I guess his allegiances have changed over the years.

I must have been living under a rock. What does PFJ mean?

People's Front of Judea (Monty Python's movie Life of Brian)

Perhaps it means "Pet & Fondle Jessica".

 

[fatness]

has it been reported that he admitted to consensual sex?

No.

 

[Gr00vus]

Pretty ironic that that's from a KISS song.

Ahhh, youth. You can tell the age. No, not The Who, but KISS.

I can't believe this schtick keeps reeling them in.Nice work redtbellstarfishfan.

Ahhh, ignorance. When you totally miss a joke and reply to a post you had no business replying to.Yep, must have fell into a hole I didn't see.DOHNothing to see here, move along. Just an old fart putting foot squarely in mouth.

All in good fun - at least you're a good sport!

 

[Cassius]

Having said that, you still don't know what you're talking about regarding Georgia law.

This is clipped form Gergia Law...16-6-22.1. Sexual battery.

(a) For the purposes of this Code section, the term "intimate parts"

means the primary genital area, ######, groin, inner thighs, or buttocks

of a male or female and the breasts of a female.

(b) A person commits the offense of sexual battery when he

intentionally makes physical contact with the intimate parts of the body

of another person without the consent of that person.

© A person convicted of the offense of sexual battery shall be

punished as for a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.

16-6-22.2. Aggravated sexual battery.

(a) For the purposes of this Code section, the term "foreign object"

means any article or instrument other than the sexual organ of a person.

(b) A person commits the offense of aggravated sexual battery when he

intentionally penetrates with a foreign object the sexual organ or ######

of another person without the consent of that person.

© A person convicted of the offense of aggravated sexual battery

shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than 20

years.

You want to break that down for us Alan Dershawitz? I don't see anything about alcohol here but perhaps it is as straight forward as you touch them without consent...

You forgot to define "consent", which was what this whole debate was about, Cicero.

Woman "I didn't consent"Police...charges filed.

...which has nothing to do with this:

Actually Chase, if the girl/lady was drunk she cannot give consent.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Satan on it.

Maybe he's just a big fan of Coach Krizzaawasasoiwwwszizzzzzzkyseptivitchawichctiz?Actual, he's pretty much Satan anyway isn't he(minus lips)? Forget I brought it up.

 

[HellToupee]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes

PFJ?

 

[fatness]

PFJ?

Peanut Futter & Jelly

 

[CrossEyed]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes

PFJ?

Playing For Jesus

 

[Steelfan7]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes

PFJ?

Playing For Jesus

Maybe he has a Mexican friend named Jesus who he wanted to pay tribute to?

 

[flapgreen]

Cue Big Ben having a press conference apologizing for his transgressions

 

[metoo]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes

PFJ?

Playing For Jesus

Maybe he has a Mexican friend named Jesus who he wanted to pay tribute to?

PFJPlaying For Juanmore like itPlaying for Yuan.

 

[CrossEyed]

Cue Big Ben having a press conference apologizing for his transgressions

That doesn't happen until the evidence is overwhelmingly against him.

 

[Peggy Starfish]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes

PFJ?

Playing For Jesus

Maybe he has a Mexican friend named Jesus who he wanted to pay tribute to?

Partying for Jesus? Porking for Jesus? I mean, we really don't know.

 

[fatness]

Partying for Jesus? Porking for Jesus? I mean, we really don't know.

Pawing For Julie?

 

[Carver]

Even if this doesnt result in charges, does this being the 2nd incident make disciplinary punishment from Goodell a possibility? Could he be suspended?

Should Cromartie be suspended for fathering 6 children with 7 women or 7 children with 6 women or whatever the case is...where do you draw the line?

its 10 kids w/8 different baby mommas

 

[PhD]

For those of you who know more about Big Ben's lifestyle since his rookie year, would you say that his personality was always like it is now or has he grown more "problematic" since the first superbowl?

 

[Godsbrother]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Satan on it. I guess his allegiances have changed over the years.

Yes and all those kids that go out trick or treating on halloween are evil as well...

 

[Godsbrother]

For those of you who know more about Big Ben's lifestyle since his rookie year, would you say that his personality was always like it is now or has he grown more "problematic" since the first superbowl?

I think Ben going to VIP rooms in clubs has been his SOP for some time now. I don't remember any stories about poor behavior prior to his motorcycle accident.

 

[Couch Potato]

I think the real winner in all of this is the Bengals.

Ben has now done enough stupid things and been in enough trouble to qualify to play for them, so once these legal issues are all done with, he can go back to Ohio and play for the team in stripes.

They ought to dump Palmer anyway. Way too squeaky clean to really belong.

 

[CrossEyed]

I find it interesting that the guy who used to write "PFJ" on his shoes was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Satan on it. I guess his allegiances have changed over the years.

Yes and all those kids that go out trick or treating on halloween are evil as well...

Did I say anyone was evil?I just think there's been an interesting change in his approach to things since he became a superstar. Some people handle that well and remain who they were. Some people don't. Personally, I think it's all gone to his head.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Having said that, you still don't know what you're talking about regarding Georgia law.

This is clipped form Gergia Law...16-6-22.1. Sexual battery.

(a) For the purposes of this Code section, the term "intimate parts"

means the primary genital area, ######, groin, inner thighs, or buttocks

of a male or female and the breasts of a female.

(b) A person commits the offense of sexual battery when he

intentionally makes physical contact with the intimate parts of the body

of another person without the consent of that person.

© A person convicted of the offense of sexual battery shall be

punished as for a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.

16-6-22.2. Aggravated sexual battery.

(a) For the purposes of this Code section, the term "foreign object"

means any article or instrument other than the sexual organ of a person.

(b) A person commits the offense of aggravated sexual battery when he

intentionally penetrates with a foreign object the sexual organ or ######

of another person without the consent of that person.

© A person convicted of the offense of aggravated sexual battery

shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than 20

years.

You want to break that down for us Alan Dershawitz? I don't see anything about alcohol here but perhaps it is as straight forward as you touch them without consent...

Much better than citing a four year old article from London. Ben hasnt been charged, so we dont know what he is accused of doing.

 

[ChargersOH]

There's a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts released. Sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later.

My instinct thinks this girl is positioning for a nice, fat settlement. Especially if she's in college, knows Ben's history and the Vegas deal, and is smart enough to concoct a nice little scheme.

It doesn't matter if it's true or not, the PR is really bad for the Steelers and Roethlisberger. The best thing he could do is settle and make this go away, guilty or no. If this goes to court, at best it drags his name even deeper into the mud. At worst he's looking at hard time, and heavy leverage for the other lawsuit.

 

[PatsFanCT]

There's a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts released. Sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later.My instinct thinks this girl is positioning for a nice, fat settlement. Especially if she's in college, knows Ben's history and the Vegas deal, and is smart enough to concoct a nice little scheme.It doesn't matter if it's true or not, the PR is really bad for the Steelers and Roethlisberger. The best thing he could do is settle and make this go away, guilty or no. If this goes to court, at best it drags his name even deeper into the mud. At worst he's looking at hard time, and heavy leverage for the other lawsuit.

Your first and second paragraphs contradict each other.Also, if he raped her, then there may be no settling to make it go away. It's a crime and she'll get her money while he gets a boyfriend. If it was another form of sexual assault, then he migh be able to brush it under the rug with a settlement.

 

[brewer]

For those of you who know more about Big Ben's lifestyle since his rookie year, would you say that his personality was always like it is now or has he grown more "problematic" since the first superbowl?

I think Ben going to VIP rooms in clubs has been his SOP for some time now. I don't remember any stories about poor behavior prior to his motorcycle accident.

There were stories, but not much in the press. He has been considered ill tempered and generally a jerk by many in the Pittsburgh service industry since he arrived here(and I understand that sort of prima donna behavior was going on at Miami of Ohio as well). I personally know a couple of women that he has approached in clubs over the years and they are not complimentary of him or his behavior either. Though, to be fair, that can probably be said of most men approaching a women in a club.

 

[ChargersOH]

There's a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts released. Sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later.My instinct thinks this girl is positioning for a nice, fat settlement. Especially if she's in college, knows Ben's history and the Vegas deal, and is smart enough to concoct a nice little scheme.It doesn't matter if it's true or not, the PR is really bad for the Steelers and Roethlisberger. The best thing he could do is settle and make this go away, guilty or no. If this goes to court, at best it drags his name even deeper into the mud. At worst he's looking at hard time, and heavy leverage for the other lawsuit.

Your first and second paragraphs contradict each other.Also, if he raped her, then there may be no settling to make it go away. It's a crime and she'll get her money while he gets a boyfriend. If it was another form of sexual assault, then he migh be able to brush it under the rug with a settlement.

I'm missing how my paragraphs contradict each other?The first paragraph pretty much states bad PR is bad PR. The damage is done whether the allegations are true or not.My second paragraph states there's a good chance a young struggling college student would know a rich dumb athlete's history, and leverage it.Sadly, even if he was stupid enough to rape her, or at least ignore her 'no', it is something that could go away with money. Either via settlement, or via tens of thousands in paying the top lawyers. The problem for him is the longer this drags out, the more damage done to his already tainted reputation.

 

[Christo]

Cue Big Ben having a press conference apologizing for his transgressions

That doesn't happen until the evidence is overwhelmingly against him.

And if I'm his lawyer, it still doesn't happen.

 

[Godsbrother]

There's a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts released. Sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later.My instinct thinks this girl is positioning for a nice, fat settlement. Especially if she's in college, knows Ben's history and the Vegas deal, and is smart enough to concoct a nice little scheme.It doesn't matter if it's true or not, the PR is really bad for the Steelers and Roethlisberger. The best thing he could do is settle and make this go away, guilty or no. If this goes to court, at best it drags his name even deeper into the mud. At worst he's looking at hard time, and heavy leverage for the other lawsuit.

Your first and second paragraphs contradict each other.Also, if he raped her, then there may be no settling to make it go away. It's a crime and she'll get her money while he gets a boyfriend. If it was another form of sexual assault, then he migh be able to brush it under the rug with a settlement.

This is where the video tape and interviews of those at the scene may be so important. According to teammate Willie Colon's agent, Colon was never in the VIP room and could not say what happened where the incident supposedly took place. His agent said that Colon was on the dance floor most of the night and didn't realize there was a problem until the police arrived.If the video shows her running out of there crying/screaming and witnessess testify to this fact Ben will likely be charged. On the other hand if the video shows her walking out in a calm manner and the witnesses are like Colon and didn't notice anything until the police showed up then investigators may conclude there isn't enough evidence of an assualt to press charges.I guess we'll know more in a day or two...

 

[PatsFanCT]

There's a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts released. Sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later.My instinct thinks this girl is positioning for a nice, fat settlement. Especially if she's in college, knows Ben's history and the Vegas deal, and is smart enough to concoct a nice little scheme.It doesn't matter if it's true or not, the PR is really bad for the Steelers and Roethlisberger. The best thing he could do is settle and make this go away, guilty or no. If this goes to court, at best it drags his name even deeper into the mud. At worst he's looking at hard time, and heavy leverage for the other lawsuit.

Your first and second paragraphs contradict each other.Also, if he raped her, then there may be no settling to make it go away. It's a crime and she'll get her money while he gets a boyfriend. If it was another form of sexual assault, then he migh be able to brush it under the rug with a settlement.

I'm missing how my paragraphs contradict each other?The first paragraph pretty much states bad PR is bad PR. The damage is done whether the allegations are true or not.My second paragraph states there's a good chance a young struggling college student would know a rich dumb athlete's history, and leverage it.Sadly, even if he was stupid enough to rape her, or at least ignore her 'no', it is something that could go away with money. Either via settlement, or via tens of thousands in paying the top lawyers. The problem for him is the longer this drags out, the more damage done to his already tainted reputation.

Your first statement was that there was a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts, and that sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later, and then stated your opinion that basically, the chick is a money grubbing whore.He might settle out of court if the evidence is weak, but if they have a rape kit with his DNA and a solid defense, I don't know why she would drop the charges.

 

[cmv5]

There's a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts released. Sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later.

My instinct thinks this girl is positioning for a nice, fat settlement. Especially if she's in college, knows Ben's history and the Vegas deal, and is smart enough to concoct a nice little scheme.

It doesn't matter if it's true or not, the PR is really bad for the Steelers and Roethlisberger. The best thing he could do is settle and make this go away, guilty or no. If this goes to court, at best it drags his name even deeper into the mud. At worst he's looking at hard time, and heavy leverage for the other lawsuit.

Your first and second paragraphs contradict each other.Also, if he raped her, then there may be no settling to make it go away. It's a crime and she'll get her money while he gets a boyfriend. If it was another form of sexual assault, then he migh be able to brush it under the rug with a settlement.

I'm missing how my paragraphs contradict each other?The first paragraph pretty much states bad PR is bad PR. The damage is done whether the allegations are true or not.

My second paragraph states there's a good chance a young struggling college student would know a rich dumb athlete's history, and leverage it.

Sadly, even if he was stupid enough to rape her, or at least ignore her 'no', it is something that could go away with money. Either via settlement, or via tens of thousands in paying the top lawyers. The problem for him is the longer this drags out, the more damage done to his already tainted reputation.

Your first statement was that there was a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts, and that sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later, and then stated your opinion that basically, the chick is a money grubbing whore.He might settle out of court if the evidence is weak, but if they have a rape kit with his DNA and a solid defense, I don't know why she would drop the charges.

Yeah, the bolded part is so hypocritical it hurts.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

There's a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts released. Sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later.

My instinct thinks this girl is positioning for a nice, fat settlement. Especially if she's in college, knows Ben's history and the Vegas deal, and is smart enough to concoct a nice little scheme.

It doesn't matter if it's true or not, the PR is really bad for the Steelers and Roethlisberger. The best thing he could do is settle and make this go away, guilty or no. If this goes to court, at best it drags his name even deeper into the mud. At worst he's looking at hard time, and heavy leverage for the other lawsuit.

Your first and second paragraphs contradict each other.Also, if he raped her, then there may be no settling to make it go away. It's a crime and she'll get her money while he gets a boyfriend. If it was another form of sexual assault, then he migh be able to brush it under the rug with a settlement.

I'm missing how my paragraphs contradict each other?The first paragraph pretty much states bad PR is bad PR. The damage is done whether the allegations are true or not.

My second paragraph states there's a good chance a young struggling college student would know a rich dumb athlete's history, and leverage it.

Sadly, even if he was stupid enough to rape her, or at least ignore her 'no', it is something that could go away with money. Either via settlement, or via tens of thousands in paying the top lawyers. The problem for him is the longer this drags out, the more damage done to his already tainted reputation.

Your first statement was that there was a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts, and that sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later, and then stated your opinion that basically, the chick is a money grubbing whore.He might settle out of court if the evidence is weak, but if they have a rape kit with his DNA and a solid defense, I don't know why she would drop the charges.

Yeah, the bolded part is so hypocritical it hurts.

Not to defend the guy, but the bolded part is fairly consistent. He says that the court of public opinion judges first without facts. Then he proceeds to make his own judgment, without facts. The only vaguely 'ironic' or 'hypocritical' part is that he preceeds his first assessment with "Sadly," but he never states that he is above or outside the typical practice of the court of public opinion. He merely observes it then acts in accordance with it.

 

[ChargersOH]

There's a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts released. Sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later.

My instinct thinks this girl is positioning for a nice, fat settlement. Especially if she's in college, knows Ben's history and the Vegas deal, and is smart enough to concoct a nice little scheme.

It doesn't matter if it's true or not, the PR is really bad for the Steelers and Roethlisberger. The best thing he could do is settle and make this go away, guilty or no. If this goes to court, at best it drags his name even deeper into the mud. At worst he's looking at hard time, and heavy leverage for the other lawsuit.

Your first and second paragraphs contradict each other.Also, if he raped her, then there may be no settling to make it go away. It's a crime and she'll get her money while he gets a boyfriend. If it was another form of sexual assault, then he migh be able to brush it under the rug with a settlement.

I'm missing how my paragraphs contradict each other?The first paragraph pretty much states bad PR is bad PR. The damage is done whether the allegations are true or not.

My second paragraph states there's a good chance a young struggling college student would know a rich dumb athlete's history, and leverage it.

Sadly, even if he was stupid enough to rape her, or at least ignore her 'no', it is something that could go away with money. Either via settlement, or via tens of thousands in paying the top lawyers. The problem for him is the longer this drags out, the more damage done to his already tainted reputation.

Your first statement was that there was a lot of conjecture for a case with no real facts, and that sadly, as with every high profile legal preceeding, the court of public opinion judges first and looks for answers later, and then stated your opinion that basically, the chick is a money grubbing whore.He might settle out of court if the evidence is weak, but if they have a rape kit with his DNA and a solid defense, I don't know why she would drop the charges.

Yeah, the bolded part is so hypocritical it hurts.

Paragraph 1 sort of leads to paragraph 2, which I state is solely what I 'think'. She knows he will be screwed in the court of public opinion, so she cries rape? They segue. Merge. link. Zin and Zang. Again, everything is conjecture, but what matters is the PR going around.hypocritical?

Inconceivable!

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Boxer, 'sadly' means I personally think it's wrong for someone to be thrown under the bus without being convicted. Every newspaper and news TV show will be throwing Roethlisberger accused of rape out there. The accusation will remain whether the case has any merit. I think that's wrong.

Sure, I put my opinion out there but I'm not exactly CNN or the NY Times. I'm also not reporting, merely commenting on a sad deal. Either he's a rapist, or an innocent guy who probably will be branded for life. Either way it's just sad.

 

[treat88]

Not to defend the guy, but the bolded part is fairly consistent. He says that the court of public opinion judges first without facts. Then he proceeds to make his own judgment, without facts. The only vaguely 'ironic' or 'hypocritical' part is that he preceeds his first assessment with "Sadly," but he never states that he is above or outside the typical practice of the court of public opinion. He merely observes it then acts in accordance with it.

Most intelligent post in the thread.Fact is none of us know jack about what happened, yet somehow all these opinions have been formed.Media driven knee jerk reactions have become the accepted norm.

 

[McBokonon]

His agent said that Colon was on the dance floor most of the night

The least they could do is release this part of the video while we wait to see what happens. It may not approach a Casey Hampton-level of comedy, but it might be close.

 

[ChargersOH]

He might settle out of court if the evidence is weak, but if they have a rape kit with his DNA and a solid defense, I don't know why she would drop the charges.

This ignores common sense and human nature.How many millionaires settle criminal grievances with the stroke of a pen?Heck, Stallworth got away with doing a few weeks at a country club after killing a guy due to a nice fat, check.If you need a better example, go read up on the Kobe Bryant sexual assault case.

 

[B-Deep]

I know I'm asking too much, but why must everyone so vehemently defend either side of this? We don't have a clue what happened. He could've raped her, he could've groped her, he could've tried to do something inappropriate, he could've done nothing, she could be mental, she could be lying, or something else entirely might have happened. Yet, as I read through this thread it would seem that both sides are dug in as though they KNOW their version of the outcome to be the reality. I just don't get that kind of definitive stance in the face of total uncertainty.I will say this, I sincerely hope this is all a misunderstanding because if it's not then a woman was sexually assaulted in some way. I personally think that trumps any possible outcomes to the Steelers or to Big Ben's playing career.

A very well thought out, well stated post.Whiiiiiiiich was completely ignored, and by the next page we had statements like "I don;t think he raped her" and "I think he is guilty"just so you know, I agree with you and I think anyone who thinks they KNOW what he did or did not do needs to take a long hard look at why they think they know that.

 

[fatness]

My instinct thinks this girl is positioning for a nice, fat settlement. Especially if she's in college, knows Ben's history and the Vegas deal, and is smart enough to concoct a nice little scheme.It doesn't matter if it's true or not, the PR is really bad for the Steelers and Roethlisberger.

Making a false report of a sexual assault doesn't matter to the police? I'm thinking you may be wrong about that.

 

[B-Deep]

also, this is a police investigation, I don't think he can settle it and make it go away

 

[fatness]

Sadly, even if he was stupid enough to rape her, or at least ignore her 'no'

Are those different?

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

Ben's lawyer: "I would be surprised if a reflective analysis could be done in less than 3-4 weeks."

I found that odd.

 

[Cassius]

I think we could use another update from MOP, our legal correspondent in the field.

 

[Michael Brown]

If Roethlisberger is not guilty of sexual assault, why would he have a press conference to apologize for his transgressions? Since when was it wrong for a 20-something guy to have lots and lots of sex with the many thousands of women who want to??? He's not married, is he?

People in here crack me up.

 

[Koya]

also, this is a police investigation, I don't think he can settle it and make it go away

If he settles and the woman becomes non cooperative, the prosecution will have far less of a case.

 

[Koya]

If Roethlisberger is not guilty of sexual assault, why would he have a press conference to apologize for his transgressions? Since when was it wrong for a 20-something guy to have lots and lots of sex with the many thousands of women who want to??? He's not married, is he?

People in here crack me up.

Because the Rooney's are done with the childish antics, the selfish behavior and the lack of good judgement. He is apologizing because his bosses, whom pay him millions, are not happy about a series of incidents that are preventable had Ben the common sense not to put himself - and the organization - at a PR risk (at the least).