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Ronnie Brown going forward (1 Viewer)
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Mr Capicollo
Footballguy
Aren't most teams splitting carries between two RB's if they have any chance at all to do so? It's the new RB reality. Get used to it. I think Ricky is all but done, but I wouldn't count on Ronnie getting 325+ carries either. He'll still be the RB1 there, but that'll only mean about 60% of the total load IMHO. Remember, this is the management/coaching regime that came from Dallas and favored a RBBC with MBIII and Jones.
I can only keep 2 guys in one league and one is already locked. I can keep Brown with a 6th or 7th, which early on in the season looked like a no-brainer as he was scoring well and you expected him to receive a lighter load in his first few games back from injury. Now, I have no idea what to expect. If he continues to split carries he is a RB2 and after week 5, he had his best 3 games and looked like a solid RB1.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
If this past year and the last few games are any indication they will continue to use a Brown-Williams-Cobbs combo next year.
Next year is Ronnie Brown's last year on his rookie contract
Ricky Williams is signed through next year
And they really like what they see out of Cobbs.
Throw in FB Polite for short yardage carries and the entire backfield is a mess for 2009 for fantasy purposes.
Next year is Ronnie Brown's last year on his rookie contract
Ricky Williams is signed through next year
And they really like what they see out of Cobbs.
Throw in FB Polite for short yardage carries and the entire backfield is a mess for 2009 for fantasy purposes.
puckalicious
Footballguy
I'm not up to speed on keeper leagues, but isn't a solid RB2 at a 6th/7th round price pretty darn good? Add to that he has a very good chance to be a RB1 at some point. Maybe not 2009 though.I can only keep 2 guys in one league and one is already locked. I can keep Brown with a 6th or 7th, which early on in the season looked like a no-brainer as he was scoring well and you expected him to receive a lighter load in his first few games back from injury. Now, I have no idea what to expect. If he continues to split carries he is a RB2 and after week 5, he had his best 3 games and looked like a solid RB1.
He got back quicker from the injury than he was suppose to but usually the 2nd year back after major surgery is when a running back actually gets back to full speed.
I think Ronnie Brown will be better/healthier next year and therefore will get more carries. I still believe the Dolphins will use Ricky some but I would expect Brown's touches and production to increase next year.
I think Ronnie Brown will be better/healthier next year and therefore will get more carries. I still believe the Dolphins will use Ricky some but I would expect Brown's touches and production to increase next year.
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It may be, but without diving too much into my team, I will keep Brees (#1 in our league) and Brown looked like a lock early on. I will probably keep Bowe with a 13th round even though I can only keep him 1 more year because Brown isn't as good a keeper if he is still locked in RBBC. I would rather have Bowe as Brown was way too inconsistent and honestly wasn't good at all after week 5.It is just hard to know if Brown another year removed from injury becomes a stud or not. Edge took a whole year of not so good before returning to stud status, and I think Brown is the most talented RB, but I don't know if that will matter.I would hate to give up on Brown and watch him return to early 2007 status.I'm not up to speed on keeper leagues, but isn't a solid RB2 at a 6th/7th round price pretty darn good? Add to that he has a very good chance to be a RB1 at some point. Maybe not 2009 though.I can only keep 2 guys in one league and one is already locked. I can keep Brown with a 6th or 7th, which early on in the season looked like a no-brainer as he was scoring well and you expected him to receive a lighter load in his first few games back from injury. Now, I have no idea what to expect. If he continues to split carries he is a RB2 and after week 5, he had his best 3 games and looked like a solid RB1.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Wouldn't the numbers of that stretch in 2007 be a career peak for almost any RB?Personally I think he could be a top 10 RB next year and pretty solid value in drafts.
BigJim®
Footballguy
It's hard to believe Brown both wowed me with his ability to come back so soon from ACL and unimpressed me with his low production as the season wore on. Is it me or did the Miami OL underperform this year? Brown had a 5.1 YPC last season pre-injury... I thought they'd significantly improve with Jake Long in the fold.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Jake Long had a fine 1st year.The problem came after injuries - they lost both of their guards - Justin Smiley & Donald Thomas.
Satele at C was also a disaster. He was then moved to Guard. They will either shop or draft a C for next year.
The Ravens badly exposed the young Dolphins Oline.
Yes that stretch would be the career peak of most RB's. What I was trying to say is I don't think he's capable of approaching that again which means he'll be very unlikely to be on my team.I'm not a big fan of Brown's, and I don't think he'll be a top-10 RB. In a redraft I think he's a 3rd rounder and maybe even a 4th rounder.In a dynasty, I have him in the 15-20 range.Wouldn't the numbers of that stretch in 2007 be a career peak for almost any RB?Personally I think he could be a top 10 RB next year and pretty solid value in drafts.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
I don't think 15-20 is out of line for Ronnie Brown right now in dynasty. There is clearly a Ricky Williams issue there for him, and it won't be going away in 2009. The question for 2009 will be how much does Ricky slip? He'll be 32 next year. Also how much does Ronnie Brown improve two years removed from the ACL? The question that redrafters will be asking is that risk more than Pierre Thomas, Kevin Smith, Reggie Bush, Ryan Grant or Darren McFadden?Yes that stretch would be the career peak of most RB's. What I was trying to say is I don't think he's capable of approaching that again which means he'll be very unlikely to be on my team.I'm not a big fan of Brown's, and I don't think he'll be a top-10 RB. In a redraft I think he's a 3rd rounder and maybe even a 4th rounder.In a dynasty, I have him in the 15-20 range.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Interesting. Looks like there's differing opinions on Brown. Some guys flat out don't want him while others see huge potential next year. Time will tell I guess.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
No Yes Yes in a ppr but No in a standardNoNo
A consensus top 20 dynasty RB isn't worth a 1st rounder?dude in my dynasty league said he wanted a first and second for himI don't think hes even worth a first rounder by itself.
BigJim®
Footballguy
You don't feel he's worth any first round rookie pick? I hate saying this to a fellow Vikes fan, but that's crazy. I'm not saying Brown is a 2nd round pick or anything, but I'd be willing to bet that only 2-3 rookies at most would be drafted ahead of R.Brown in start up dynasty drafts over the offseason. Moreno, Wells, Crabtree... who am I missing? I'd honestly be shocked if an established RB like Brown goes after the likes of Spiller, Green, McCoy.I think it's a great time to buy personally. If next year is a contract year, he could be a hot commodity as next year progresses.dude in my dynasty league said he wanted a first and second for him
Our Gang
Footballguy
I watched every game this season and the line was exposed. There weren't many runs between the tackles and the "wild cat" was the replacement on account of a weak line. If Miami addresses the line, which they should, Ronnie will out perform 2008. Plus it will be another year recovered.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
The main reason the running game was not as good from a YPC standpoint is Chad Pennington. People are enamored with his excellent completion % but he hurts a running attack a lot because teams can stack the box or at least keep the safeties much closer to the line of scrimmage because Chad simply can't stretch the field or make many of the deep outs. While there are other reasons as well, it is not a coincidence that Thomas Jones did better without Pennington (even as he is older). Favre started to do more dink and dunking, but he was a threat to go over the top so defenses still needed to respect it.Ronnie is the best runner on the Dolphins. Ricky has good speed and is a bowling ball, so he can take what the line gives you and break some arm tackles, but Ricky creates very little. Ricky is a weak starter, but an excellent backup (kind of like Pennington)
renesauz
IBL Representative
When I saw this post, I thought. "Why wouldn't you? a sixth round pick for a likely RB2, possible RB1 is a great deal and worth the risk."
Then I saw this and it made more sense. You really need to decide what deal provides the biggest steal for you. I'd probably drop Brees and keep these two at these prices. ESPECIALLY if it's PPR.Not trying to turn this into a WDIS type thread...I think there's real value in this type of discussion and the risk/reward. At a sixth rounder...there is huge upside for Brown.
