Run in with a Walgreens Mgr over some Swedish Fish (1 Viewer)

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?

Sounds like a really nice Saturday.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's not that we don't notice stuff. It's that we don't sweat the small stuff. If you go around looking for someone to pick a bone with, you'll eventually find someone. There's always something going on around you that isn't right. Making a fool of yourself or acting like you're the one who's going to take a stand against people's stupidity will make you miserable and send you to an early grave. Forget about letting all of the nonsense in the world bother you. You're wasting your energy when you could be doing something more productive.

I have to say while this is hard to abide by it really is good sound advice. Here is the problem Flap, the guys who are telling everyone to not sweat the small stuff are usually the dbags who are causing these situations to begin with, so there's that. And why shouldn't someone take a stand? Wouldn't the knuckleheads of the World just love it if everyone would let them do whatever they want and never be told different or set straight on things?

I'm getting worked up just thinking about it

 

[Henry Ford]

It's not that we don't notice stuff. It's that we don't sweat the small stuff. If you go around looking for someone to pick a bone with, you'll eventually find someone. There's always something going on around you that isn't right. Making a fool of yourself or acting like you're the one who's going to take a stand against people's stupidity will make you miserable and send you to an early grave. Forget about letting all of the nonsense in the world bother you. You're wasting your energy when you could be doing something more productive.

I have to say while this is hard to abide by it really is good sound advice. Here is the problem Flap, the guys who are telling everyone to not sweat the small stuff are usually the dbags who are causing these situations to begin with, so there's that. And why shouldn't someone take a stand? Wouldn't the knuckleheads of the World just love it if everyone would let them do whatever they want and never be told different or set straight on things?

I'm getting worked up just thinking about it

Still keep the phone on your belt, don't you?

 

[SIDA!]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?

I love this presumptive question. Kind of make my point...and I suspect MOPs point, better than we can.

If I told you the details...you would probably ask incredulously if I was telling the truth. Suffice to say, I was literally placed under citizens arrest with a charge of using foul language in public. And the lady was a known scammer that repeatedly returned stuff she had used or bought from other stores.

Oh come on. You gotta give more details than that.

In a nutshell:

I had a long, aggravating day at work and found myself after work standing in the return line to return some dumb thing that I didn't want to buy when I bought it the first time I was in the store (with my gf). So, I simply want to go run in and run out with my gf and then eat dinner.

The store is empty except for a lady in front of me.

I zone out for a few minutes and then finally wonder...what the eff is going on here.

I look over and she has several items and literally a stack of receipts. Receipts that are so old that they look like sun bleach newspaper print on some of them. So, she and the return gal are literally combing through them as the customer insists that the item(s) were purchased there. This goes on and on. Finally another rep comes over and two people are combing through her damn stack of receipts to "find it". But...I later find out that it probably doesn't exist...because another person calls me over to help me since I have been waiting for about 15 minutes at this point.

The woman helping me explains that this woman does this repeatedly. She even told me how she returned a kids training potty seat thingy after it had been, etc. She tells me that the store management refuses to really do anything about it. So, the lady and one of the clerks walk by me on their way to probably try to convince them that the item she bought was actually from their store.

I take it upon myself to confront the woman and tell her that people like her are making things more expensive for people like me. I call her a thief. She responds like the manipulative, conniving piece of trash she is and then I drop the "C" bomb on her.

We separate and I go outside to call corporate. While on phone she walks out and says something c --- y to me. After she gets to her minivan, I walk about halfway from the store entrance to where she is parked to write her license plates down and get a better description to give to corporate. I never get within 15 yards of her. She sees me and goes ballistic...calls the cops and says that I am stalking and threatening her.

I laugh and walk away never suspecting in a million years the cops would come and actually arrest or cite me. I tell her I will be at the Barnes and Noble and to tell the cops. Cops come ask me questions and file a report. They refuse to let me place her under citizens arrest, too. The cops refuse to even take a statement from my gf (granted..not an impartial witness) and they refuse to go into the store and take statements from the store employees.

Eventually, the report is filed and sent to the district attorney and the DAs office decides to prosecute the case. I tell the DA prosecutor to go eff off and that I am not going to plea to any thing. They drag me through several court appearances and finally dismiss charges.

That is the gist. True story. No hyperbole or embellishment. That. Really. Happened.

And I lived in a county with over 1 million people.

So, uh, at what point were you placed under citizens arrest?

After the cops came and interviewed me they "arrested" me by issuing a citation with a court appearance date. Similar to a traffic ticket logistically speaking...but with misdemeanor charges. Then I went home.

I was not handcuffed and put into a car or booked or anything like that. I was detained and told to sit on the parking lot curb.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's not that we don't notice stuff. It's that we don't sweat the small stuff. If you go around looking for someone to pick a bone with, you'll eventually find someone. There's always something going on around you that isn't right. Making a fool of yourself or acting like you're the one who's going to take a stand against people's stupidity will make you miserable and send you to an early grave. Forget about letting all of the nonsense in the world bother you. You're wasting your energy when you could be doing something more productive.

I have to say while this is hard to abide by it really is good sound advice. Here is the problem Flap, the guys who are telling everyone to not sweat the small stuff are usually the dbags who are causing these situations to begin with, so there's that. And why shouldn't someone take a stand? Wouldn't the knuckleheads of the World just love it if everyone would let them do whatever they want and never be told different or set straight on things?

I'm getting worked up just thinking about it

Still keep the phone on your belt, don't you?

:bzzzzzz: Hold on Henry, I gotta beep coming in....(pulls beeper off belt clip)

I gotta find a pay phone Henry, I'll get back to you on that.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

MoP and SIDA need to look up the word "Sonder".

 

[igbomb]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

Sounds like it's really working out for you.

Yeah, in that particular instance it wasn't worth the aggravation. But, most of the time, its a win for me. I am not built like some of you guys. If I just sit there/stand there and watch certain things go without saying something I would boil inside and probably go postal.

I really don't know how some of you can sit there at a grocery store checkout and watch some POS buying tons of crap with their food stamps/EBT card and just pretend it doesn't bother you. Or how some of you guys let some idiot parents allow their little bastards to act out in a restaurant, etc.

So, yeah...I have no problem asking the person on food stamps in front of me why they think I should pay for their blankety-blank-blank.

You rag on poor people using food stamps? You're an awful human being.

 

[phrozen]

maybe your son would like some swedish fish.

Still dying over this one.

my favorite post in the thread

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

Sounds like it's really working out for you.

Yeah, in that particular instance it wasn't worth the aggravation. But, most of the time, its a win for me. I am not built like some of you guys. If I just sit there/stand there and watch certain things go without saying something I would boil inside and probably go postal.

I really don't know how some of you can sit there at a grocery store checkout and watch some POS buying tons of crap with their food stamps/EBT card and just pretend it doesn't bother you. Or how some of you guys let some idiot parents allow their little bastards to act out in a restaurant, etc.

So, yeah...I have no problem asking the person on food stamps in front of me why they think I should pay for their blankety-blank-blank.

You rag on poor people using food stamps? You're an awful human being.

 

[flapgreen]

It's not that we don't notice stuff. It's that we don't sweat the small stuff. If you go around looking for someone to pick a bone with, you'll eventually find someone. There's always something going on around you that isn't right. Making a fool of yourself or acting like you're the one who's going to take a stand against people's stupidity will make you miserable and send you to an early grave. Forget about letting all of the nonsense in the world bother you. You're wasting your energy when you could be doing something more productive.

I have to say while this is hard to abide by it really is good sound advice. Here is the problem Flap, the guys who are telling everyone to not sweat the small stuff are usually the dbags who are causing these situations to begin with, so there's that. And why shouldn't someone take a stand? Wouldn't the knuckleheads of the World just love it if everyone would let them do whatever they want and never be told different or set straight on things?

I'm getting worked up just thinking about it

There are times in life to take a stand, but taking one against a Swedish Fish cashier, a white trash thief, or a guy eating tuna fish in a theater isn't one of them. Setting them straight won't make a damn bit of difference. Some random dude yelling at them isn't going to make the see the err of their ways. It just seems like a useless thing to expend time and energy on. You're taking a stand against someone who's mistreating someone you love. You're taking one against some moron who doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks, anyway.

 

[SIDA!]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

Sounds like it's really working out for you.

Yeah, in that particular instance it wasn't worth the aggravation. But, most of the time, its a win for me. I am not built like some of you guys. If I just sit there/stand there and watch certain things go without saying something I would boil inside and probably go postal.

I really don't know how some of you can sit there at a grocery store checkout and watch some POS buying tons of crap with their food stamps/EBT card and just pretend it doesn't bother you. Or how some of you guys let some idiot parents allow their little bastards to act out in a restaurant, etc.

So, yeah...I have no problem asking the person on food stamps in front of me why they think I should pay for their blankety-blank-blank.

You rag on poor people using food stamps? You're an awful human being.

Serious question. Is this schtick?

 

[DocGonzo]

In a nutshell:

I had a long, aggravating day at work and found myself after work standing in the return line to return some dumb thing that I didn't want to buy when I bought it the first time I was in the store (with my gf). So, I simply want to go run in and run out with my gf and then eat dinner.

The store is empty except for a lady in front of me.

I zone out for a few minutes and then finally wonder...what the eff is going on here.

I look over and she has several items and literally a stack of receipts. Receipts that are so old that they look like sun bleach newspaper print on some of them. So, she and the return gal are literally combing through them as the customer insists that the item(s) were purchased there. This goes on and on. Finally another rep comes over and two people are combing through her damn stack of receipts to "find it". But...I later find out that it probably doesn't exist...because another person calls me over to help me since I have been waiting for about 15 minutes at this point.

The woman helping me explains that this woman does this repeatedly. She even told me how she returned a kids training potty seat thingy after it had been, etc. She tells me that the store management refuses to really do anything about it. So, the lady and one of the clerks walk by me on their way to probably try to convince them that the item she bought was actually from their store.

I take it upon myself to confront the woman and tell her that people like her are making things more expensive for people like me. I call her a thief. She responds like the manipulative, conniving piece of trash she is and then I drop the "C" bomb on her.

We separate and I go outside to call corporate. While on phone she walks out and says something c --- y to me. After she gets to her minivan, I walk about halfway from the store entrance to where she is parked to write her license plates down and get a better description to give to corporate. I never get within 15 yards of her. She sees me and goes ballistic...calls the cops and says that I am stalking and threatening her.

I laugh and walk away never suspecting in a million years the cops would come and actually arrest or cite me. I tell her I will be at the Barnes and Noble and to tell the cops. Cops come ask me questions and file a report. They refuse to let me place her under citizens arrest, too. The cops refuse to even take a statement from my gf (granted..not an impartial witness) and they refuse to go into the store and take statements from the store employees.

Eventually, the report is filed and sent to the district attorney and the DAs office decides to prosecute the case. I tell the DA prosecutor to go eff off and that I am not going to plea to any thing. They drag me through several court appearances and finally dismiss charges.

That is the gist. True story. No hyperbole or embellishment. That. Really. Happened.

And I lived in a county with over 1 million people.

So, uh, at what point were you placed under citizens arrest?

After the cops came and interviewed me they "arrested" me by issuing a citation with a court appearance date. Similar to a traffic ticket logistically speaking...but with misdemeanor charges. Then I went home.

I was not handcuffed and put into a car or booked or anything like that. I was detained and told to sit on the parking lot curb.

My link:

http://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk

 

[Henry Ford]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

Sounds like it's really working out for you.

Yeah, in that particular instance it wasn't worth the aggravation. But, most of the time, its a win for me. I am not built like some of you guys. If I just sit there/stand there and watch certain things go without saying something I would boil inside and probably go postal.

I really don't know how some of you can sit there at a grocery store checkout and watch some POS buying tons of crap with their food stamps/EBT card and just pretend it doesn't bother you. Or how some of you guys let some idiot parents allow their little bastards to act out in a restaurant, etc.

So, yeah...I have no problem asking the person on food stamps in front of me why they think I should pay for their blankety-blank-blank.

You rag on poor people using food stamps? You're an awful human being.

Serious question. Is this schtick?

Probably not. Many people think that's a sign of a bad person.

 

[Fennis]

am i being detained or am I free to go?

 

[igbomb]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

Sounds like it's really working out for you.

Yeah, in that particular instance it wasn't worth the aggravation. But, most of the time, its a win for me. I am not built like some of you guys. If I just sit there/stand there and watch certain things go without saying something I would boil inside and probably go postal.

I really don't know how some of you can sit there at a grocery store checkout and watch some POS buying tons of crap with their food stamps/EBT card and just pretend it doesn't bother you. Or how some of you guys let some idiot parents allow their little bastards to act out in a restaurant, etc.

So, yeah...I have no problem asking the person on food stamps in front of me why they think I should pay for their blankety-blank-blank.

You rag on poor people using food stamps? You're an awful human being.

Serious question. Is this schtick?

I was wondering the same thing.

 

[SIDA!]

In a nutshell:

I had a long, aggravating day at work and found myself after work standing in the return line to return some dumb thing that I didn't want to buy when I bought it the first time I was in the store (with my gf). So, I simply want to go run in and run out with my gf and then eat dinner.

The store is empty except for a lady in front of me.

I zone out for a few minutes and then finally wonder...what the eff is going on here.

I look over and she has several items and literally a stack of receipts. Receipts that are so old that they look like sun bleach newspaper print on some of them. So, she and the return gal are literally combing through them as the customer insists that the item(s) were purchased there. This goes on and on. Finally another rep comes over and two people are combing through her damn stack of receipts to "find it". But...I later find out that it probably doesn't exist...because another person calls me over to help me since I have been waiting for about 15 minutes at this point.

The woman helping me explains that this woman does this repeatedly. She even told me how she returned a kids training potty seat thingy after it had been, etc. She tells me that the store management refuses to really do anything about it. So, the lady and one of the clerks walk by me on their way to probably try to convince them that the item she bought was actually from their store.

I take it upon myself to confront the woman and tell her that people like her are making things more expensive for people like me. I call her a thief. She responds like the manipulative, conniving piece of trash she is and then I drop the "C" bomb on her.

We separate and I go outside to call corporate. While on phone she walks out and says something c --- y to me. After she gets to her minivan, I walk about halfway from the store entrance to where she is parked to write her license plates down and get a better description to give to corporate. I never get within 15 yards of her. She sees me and goes ballistic...calls the cops and says that I am stalking and threatening her.

I laugh and walk away never suspecting in a million years the cops would come and actually arrest or cite me. I tell her I will be at the Barnes and Noble and to tell the cops. Cops come ask me questions and file a report. They refuse to let me place her under citizens arrest, too. The cops refuse to even take a statement from my gf (granted..not an impartial witness) and they refuse to go into the store and take statements from the store employees.

Eventually, the report is filed and sent to the district attorney and the DAs office decides to prosecute the case. I tell the DA prosecutor to go eff off and that I am not going to plea to any thing. They drag me through several court appearances and finally dismiss charges.

That is the gist. True story. No hyperbole or embellishment. That. Really. Happened.

And I lived in a county with over 1 million people.

So, uh, at what point were you placed under citizens arrest?

After the cops came and interviewed me they "arrested" me by issuing a citation with a court appearance date. Similar to a traffic ticket logistically speaking...but with misdemeanor charges. Then I went home.

I was not handcuffed and put into a car or booked or anything like that. I was detained and told to sit on the parking lot curb.

My link:

http://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk

I am not sure what you think I have wrong. Do you think I have the notion of what a citizen's arrest is as being wrong? Do you think I am incorrectly stating that I was arrested?

A citizen's arrest doesn't necessarily mean that the lady tackled me and put me under arrest. A citizen's arrest occurs when a citizen witnesses an alleged crime and summons a police officer to take the person into custody. Or do you think that citizens handcuff a fellow citizen....put them in their car and drag them down to the station for booking?

And an arrest doesn't mean = handcuffed and book:

Example A driver is stopped for a routine traffic violation. The driver technically is under arrest because the driver is not free to leave until the officer has written a ticket (or if it’s the driver’s lucky day, only issued a warning). But the arrest is temporary. Assuming the officer has no basis to suspect that the driver is engaged in criminal activity other than the traffic violation, the officer usually releases the driver once the driver produces identification and signs a promise to appear in court (assuming a ticket was written). Traffic stop arrests do not become part of a person’s arrest record, and do not count as arrests for the purpose of answering the question, “Have you ever been arrested?” (on a job or license application, for example).

Example A shopper in a mall is stopped by a police officer who says, “I’d like to know whether you saw the robbery that took place a few minutes ago in the jewelry store.” No arrest has taken place. People questioned by police officers are not under arrest unless the officers indicate that they are not free to leave. (For reasons of personal safety, however, the shopper should not simply walk away from the officer without the officer’s permission.) Even if the officer refuses permission, thereby placing the shopper under arrest, this arrest, like the traffic stop arrest, doesn’t count as an arrest if the shopper is allowed to leave after the questioning and is not charged with a crime.

 

[SIDA!]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

Sounds like it's really working out for you.

Yeah, in that particular instance it wasn't worth the aggravation. But, most of the time, its a win for me. I am not built like some of you guys. If I just sit there/stand there and watch certain things go without saying something I would boil inside and probably go postal.

I really don't know how some of you can sit there at a grocery store checkout and watch some POS buying tons of crap with their food stamps/EBT card and just pretend it doesn't bother you. Or how some of you guys let some idiot parents allow their little bastards to act out in a restaurant, etc.

So, yeah...I have no problem asking the person on food stamps in front of me why they think I should pay for their blankety-blank-blank.

You rag on poor people using food stamps? You're an awful human being.

Serious question. Is this schtick?

Probably not. Many people think that's a sign of a bad person.

Let me see if I have this correct.

On my way home from work I stop at the grocery store to pick up a couple of items for that night's dinner. I stand behind someone who has to conduct three different transactions for WIC items, welfare items, and regular cash/money items. I then proceed to question that person on welfare why they are buying microwaveables, junk food, soda and other non staple items with my tax dollars instead of staples and unprocessed food stuffs that can be assembled in the kitchen (with a little...ahem...work) more cheaply...and I am the bad guy?

You are more offended than they are... It is hard for them to hear me half of the time when they are yapping into their cell phone while the transaction is getting rung up by the cashier.

Get out of here.

 

[drummer]

I crack up at the words Swedish Fish.

 

[DaVinci]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

Sounds like it's really working out for you.

Yeah, in that particular instance it wasn't worth the aggravation. But, most of the time, its a win for me. I am not built like some of you guys. If I just sit there/stand there and watch certain things go without saying something I would boil inside and probably go postal.

I really don't know how some of you can sit there at a grocery store checkout and watch some POS buying tons of crap with their food stamps/EBT card and just pretend it doesn't bother you. Or how some of you guys let some idiot parents allow their little bastards to act out in a restaurant, etc.

So, yeah...I have no problem asking the person on food stamps in front of me why they think I should pay for their blankety-blank-blank.

You rag on poor people using food stamps? You're an awful human being.

Serious question. Is this schtick?

Probably not. Many people think that's a sign of a bad person.

Let me see if I have this correct.

On my way home from work I stop at the grocery store to pick up a couple of items for that night's dinner. I stand behind someone who has to conduct three different transactions for WIC items, welfare items, and regular cash/money items. I then proceed to pay for my items and go home, having been delayed only a couple of minutes. question that person on welfare why they are buying microwaveables, junk food, soda and other non staple items with my tax dollars instead of staples and unprocessed food stuffs that can be assembled in the kitchen (with a little...ahem...work) more cheaply...and I am the bad guy?

You are more offended than they are... It is hard for them to hear me half of the time when they are yapping into their cell phone while the transaction is getting rung up by the cashier.

Get out of here.

 

[Henry Ford]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

Sounds like it's really working out for you.

Yeah, in that particular instance it wasn't worth the aggravation. But, most of the time, its a win for me. I am not built like some of you guys. If I just sit there/stand there and watch certain things go without saying something I would boil inside and probably go postal.

I really don't know how some of you can sit there at a grocery store checkout and watch some POS buying tons of crap with their food stamps/EBT card and just pretend it doesn't bother you. Or how some of you guys let some idiot parents allow their little bastards to act out in a restaurant, etc.

So, yeah...I have no problem asking the person on food stamps in front of me why they think I should pay for their blankety-blank-blank.

You rag on poor people using food stamps? You're an awful human being.

Serious question. Is this schtick?

Probably not. Many people think that's a sign of a bad person.

Let me see if I have this correct.On my way home from work I stop at the grocery store to pick up a couple of items for that night's dinner. I stand behind someone who has to conduct three different transactions for WIC items, welfare items, and regular cash/money items. I then proceed to question that person on welfare why they are buying microwaveables, junk food, soda and other non staple items with my tax dollars instead of staples and unprocessed food stuffs that can be assembled in the kitchen (with a little...ahem...work) more cheaply...and I am the bad guy?

You are more offended than they are... It is hard for them to hear me half of the time when they are yapping into their cell phone while the transaction is getting rung up by the cashier.

Get out of here.

I'll stay, thanks.Yes, you are the bad guy.

 

[Ignoramus]

Let me see if I have this correct.

On my way home from work I stop at the grocery store to pick up a couple of items for that night's dinner. I stand behind someone who has to conduct three different transactions for WIC items, welfare items, and regular cash/money items. I then proceed to question that person on welfare why they are buying microwaveables, junk food, soda and other non staple items with my tax dollars instead of staples and unprocessed food stuffs that can be assembled in the kitchen (with a little...ahem...work) more cheaply...and I am the bad guy?

You are more offended than they are... It is hard for them to hear me half of the time when they are yapping into their cell phone while the transaction is getting rung up by the cashier.

Get out of here.

Okay, now I know we're just being trolled here.

 

[flapgreen]

:X

 

[flapgreen]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

Sounds like it's really working out for you.

Yeah, in that particular instance it wasn't worth the aggravation. But, most of the time, its a win for me. I am not built like some of you guys. If I just sit there/stand there and watch certain things go without saying something I would boil inside and probably go postal.

I really don't know how some of you can sit there at a grocery store checkout and watch some POS buying tons of crap with their food stamps/EBT card and just pretend it doesn't bother you. Or how some of you guys let some idiot parents allow their little bastards to act out in a restaurant, etc.

So, yeah...I have no problem asking the person on food stamps in front of me why they think I should pay for their blankety-blank-blank.

You rag on poor people using food stamps? You're an awful human being.

Serious question. Is this schtick?

Probably not. Many people think that's a sign of a bad person.

Let me see if I have this correct.On my way home from work I stop at the grocery store to pick up a couple of items for that night's dinner. I stand behind someone who has to conduct three different transactions for WIC items, welfare items, and regular cash/money items. I then proceed to question that person on welfare why they are buying microwaveables, junk food, soda and other non staple items with my tax dollars instead of staples and unprocessed food stuffs that can be assembled in the kitchen (with a little...ahem...work) more cheaply...and I am the bad guy?

You are more offended than they are... It is hard for them to hear me half of the time when they are yapping into their cell phone while the transaction is getting rung up by the cashier.

Get out of here.

Your life sounds miserable.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

You make a 30 second snap judgement about a person and their situation based on their grocery list; yes, you're a jerk and need to take a look in the mirror.

 

[igbomb]

Let me see if I have this correct.

On my way home from work I stop at the grocery store to pick up a couple of items for that night's dinner. I stand behind someone who has to conduct three different transactions for WIC items, welfare items, and regular cash/money items. I then proceed to question that person on welfare why they are buying microwaveables, junk food, soda and other non staple items with my tax dollars instead of staples and unprocessed food stuffs that can be assembled in the kitchen (with a little...ahem...work) more cheaply...and I am the bad guy?

You are more offended than they are... It is hard for them to hear me half of the time when they are yapping into their cell phone while the transaction is getting rung up by the cashier.

Get out of here.

Okay, now I know we're just being trolled here.

Must be. That smacks of even less self-awareness than MOP has.

 

[Mister Martie]

If you've been arrested for intimidating and calling a woman a #### at Bed Bath and Beyond, you probably aren't the person who should be giving out unsolicited life skills advice to strangers.

 

[Hawks64]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?

Your opinion of yourself is severely flawed if you think you aren't being a ########. Think about this for just a second. You were placed under Citizen's arrest. In a Bed, Bath & Beyond.

ETA All because you took it upon yourself to attempt to handle/scold someone that you felt was gaming the system. Regardless of the fact that the stores mgmt was ok helping the woman out? Wow. You are more MOP than MOP.

 

[Hawks64]

SIDA is kinda MOP like.

And that's not a good thing.

 

[flapgreen]

Let me see if I have this correct.

On my way home from work I stop at the grocery store to pick up a couple of items for that night's dinner. I stand behind someone who has to conduct three different transactions for WIC items, welfare items, and regular cash/money items. I then proceed to question that person on welfare why they are buying microwaveables, junk food, soda and other non staple items with my tax dollars instead of staples and unprocessed food stuffs that can be assembled in the kitchen (with a little...ahem...work) more cheaply...and I am the bad guy?

You are more offended than they are... It is hard for them to hear me half of the time when they are yapping into their cell phone while the transaction is getting rung up by the cashier.

Get out of here.

Okay, now I know we're just being trolled here.

Must be. That smacks of even less self-awareness than MOP has.

MOP sounds more like a general ####### than a judgemental doosh. No offense, MOP.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's amazing and par for the course in here. Henry and others decide to sidestep the actual issues and just go for character assassination. You would rather pick on the person trying to explain the situation than actually discuss the downward spiral of society. Or maybe you just want to poke a couple folks on an IMB and I completely understand that as well.

Take it down to a simple level, this has happened to everyone. You are driving and you are cut off or someone jumps in front of you and tap the horn to let them know you are there...and then you get the proverbial middle finger extended your way even though you did absolutely nothing wrong. And so many of you seem to accept bad behavior from others except when the person who is being irritated decides to answer back. Then it seems all of you have strong opinions that the person who is setting the situation straight as to what is really up, that person is now the bad guy. It's hilarious the thinking patterns in here.

Do as you like but you know inside that head of yours that we're right. You can only take it for so long and then every once in a while you got to start a holy war over some Swedish Fish. Either some of you live inside bubbles in this country or you yourself have your mini little aneurism over things and never report back here about any of it. Or you just sit there and observe and never take action, the holy shiftless who will watch a building burn to the ground rather than call the fire department.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

MOP sounds more like a general ####### than a judgemental doosh. No offense, MOP.

None taken.

 

[Abraham]

Sensational revitalization of this thread. We are really on a roll around here lately.

 

[igbomb]

It's amazing and par for the course in here. Henry and others decide to sidestep the actual issues and just go for character assassination. You would rather pick on the person trying to explain the situation than actually discuss the downward spiral of society. Or maybe you just want to poke a couple folks on an IMB and I completely understand that as well.

Take it down to a simple level, this has happened to everyone. You are driving and you are cut off or someone jumps in front of you and tap the horn to let them know you are there...and then you get the proverbial middle finger extended your way even though you did absolutely nothing wrong. And so many of you seem to accept bad behavior from others except when the person who is being irritated decides to answer back. Then it seems all of you have strong opinions that the person who is setting the situation straight as to what is really up, that person is now the bad guy. It's hilarious the thinking patterns in here.

Do as you like but you know inside that head of yours that we're right. You can only take it for so long and then every once in a while you got to start a holy war over some Swedish Fish. Either some of you live inside bubbles in this country or you yourself have your mini little aneurism over things and never report back here about any of it. Or you just sit there and observe and never take action, the holy shiftless who will watch a building burn to the ground rather than call the fire department.

MOP - Fixing society with one public eruption at a time.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her. Now I also understand why people are ragging on him, I also understand what he is saying, I just would not verbalize that to this person in line.

yes, internally I am saying similar things to myself that Sida would say, so I guess the difference in that situation is I would not have said anything, not worth getting arrested over for sure. They went about it the wrong way but it doesn't change the sadness that people buy nonessentials with government money, when did that become acceptable? In the 80s?, 90s? I'm sure there was a time in this country when you wouldn't dare buy nonessentials with food stamps or else someone would say something about it. Now it is so common that no one seems to care...the standards have been lowered in this country and continue to slide.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Not to defend SIDA, but standing behind someone who has to pay with WIC sucks. Each category of item requires it's own voucher that apparently has to be signed and scanned 18 different ways before you can get to the next voucher. Kind of annoying, but not the customer's fault. It would be nice if poor people had to go to their own line of shame while the rest of us could pay and GTFO like the wonderful citizens we are.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Some people dislike Tim and MOP, but they make this forum a lot more interesting.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I just would not verbalize that to this person in line.

OH COME ON!!!!

 

[igbomb]

And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her. Now I also understand why people are ragging on him, I also understand what he is saying, I just would not verbalize that to this person in line.

yes, internally I am saying similar things to myself that Sida would say, so I guess the difference in that situation is I would not have said anything, not worth getting arrested over for sure. They went about it the wrong way but it doesn't change the sadness that people buy nonessentials with government money, when did that become acceptable? In the 80s?, 90s? I'm sure there was a time in this country when you wouldn't dare buy nonessentials with food stamps or else someone would say something about it. Now it is so common that no one seems to care...the standards have been lowered in this country and continue to slide.

You know who is worse than the people that make poor shopping choices on government money? D-bags who think that because they paid one fraction of a cent towards that person's food that they now have the right to assess and judge whether the poor person is making appropriate shopping choices.

 

[squistion]

And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her. Now I also understand why people are ragging on him, I also understand what he is saying, I just would not verbalize that to this person in line.

yes, internally I am saying similar things to myself that Sida would say, so I guess the difference in that situation is I would not have said anything, not worth getting arrested over for sure. They went about it the wrong way but it doesn't change the sadness that people buy nonessentials with government money, when did that become acceptable? In the 80s?, 90s? I'm sure there was a time in this country when you wouldn't dare buy nonessentials with food stamps or else someone would say something about it. Now it is so common that no one seems to care...the standards have been lowered in this country and continue to slide.

You know who is worse than the people that make poor shopping choices on government money? D-bags who think that because they paid one fraction of a cent towards that person's food that they now have the right to assess and judge whether the poor person is making appropriate shopping choices.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her. Now I also understand why people are ragging on him, I also understand what he is saying, I just would not verbalize that to this person in line.

yes, internally I am saying similar things to myself that Sida would say, so I guess the difference in that situation is I would not have said anything, not worth getting arrested over for sure. They went about it the wrong way but it doesn't change the sadness that people buy nonessentials with government money, when did that become acceptable? In the 80s?, 90s? I'm sure there was a time in this country when you wouldn't dare buy nonessentials with food stamps or else someone would say something about it. Now it is so common that no one seems to care...the standards have been lowered in this country and continue to slide.

You know who is worse than the people that make poor shopping choices on government money? D-bags who think that because they paid one fraction of a cent towards that person's food that they now have the right to assess and judge whether the poor person is making appropriate shopping choices.

Where does the logic come from this? I don't want to turn the thread into an attack/defense of government freeloaders but how can you defend people who get free credits for food and then buy Frosted Flakes, Pop Tarts, and Doritos? I'm sorry but they can eat a lot healthier and nutritious buying other things. I do feel the money should be used for essentials like milk, bread, eggs, meat, fruits & veggies, why is that such a rotten thing? Because the next thing is they are constantly unhealthy and costing even more money in the emergency rooms in this country.

But anyways, you can hate on us all you like but your attack(I know we're just bantering here) is not grounded in anything other than emotion.

 

[SacramentoBob]

 

[Ignoramus]

And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her.

And here's the problem that you consistently fail to realize: these events don't "happen" to you and SIDA; you create them.

 

[tommyGunZ]

And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her. Now I also understand why people are ragging on him, I also understand what he is saying, I just would not verbalize that to this person in line.

yes, internally I am saying similar things to myself that Sida would say, so I guess the difference in that situation is I would not have said anything, not worth getting arrested over for sure. They went about it the wrong way but it doesn't change the sadness that people buy nonessentials with government money, when did that become acceptable? In the 80s?, 90s? I'm sure there was a time in this country when you wouldn't dare buy nonessentials with food stamps or else someone would say something about it. Now it is so common that no one seems to care...the standards have been lowered in this country and continue to slide.

You know who is worse than the people that make poor shopping choices on government money? D-bags who think that because they paid one fraction of a cent towards that person's food that they now have the right to assess and judge whether the poor person is making appropriate shopping choices.

Where does the logic come from this? I don't want to turn the thread into an attack/defense of government freeloaders but how can you defend people who get free credits for food and then buy Frosted Flakes, Pop Tarts, and Doritos? I'm sorry but they can eat a lot healthier and nutritious buying other things. I do feel the money should be used for essentials like milk, bread, eggs, meat, fruits & veggies, why is that such a rotten thing? Because the next thing is they are constantly unhealthy and costing even more money in the emergency rooms in this country.

But anyways, you can hate on us all you like but your attack(I know we're just bantering here) is not grounded in anything other than emotion.

Don't you have weight issues yourself? And you're going to look down your nose at what other people are buying the grocery store?

After some of the unfortunate #### you've been through in recent years, it seems you would have a bit more compassion for those who are currently down on their luck.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I just would not verbalize that to this person in line.

OH COME ON!!!!

I would have to be provoked. I try hard these days to avoid these situations by shopping at times when stores tend not to be crowded and I am not rushed for time. And also I buy as much as I can off the internet so I don't have to got out and deal with crowds, cashiers, and commodes.

I'm much more likely to lay into the cashier who can't runt he register than I am the person in line ahead of me. Don't you all scan the grocery lines and take a head count before you line up? I got a such n such cashier, 2 moms with 2 full shopping carts and a checkbook in hand (pass), next line is Maude and Claude who look like they might take 5 minutes just getting the groceries out of the cart and onto the conveyer belt, pass. Next line is a shift manager mowing the groceries over the scanner 3x as fast as everyone else, person in line has 12 items and a visa debit card in hand with her pin number tattooed on her wrist so she doesn't forget, CHECK! That's the line for me.

A lot of situations can be avoided with some planning and awareness when you get there.

 

[flapgreen]

It's amazing and par for the course in here. Henry and others decide to sidestep the actual issues and just go for character assassination. You would rather pick on the person trying to explain the situation than actually discuss the downward spiral of society. Or maybe you just want to poke a couple folks on an IMB and I completely understand that as well.

Take it down to a simple level, this has happened to everyone. You are driving and you are cut off or someone jumps in front of you and tap the horn to let them know you are there...and then you get the proverbial middle finger extended your way even though you did absolutely nothing wrong. And so many of you seem to accept bad behavior from others except when the person who is being irritated decides to answer back. Then it seems all of you have strong opinions that the person who is setting the situation straight as to what is really up, that person is now the bad guy. It's hilarious the thinking patterns in here.

Do as you like but you know inside that head of yours that we're right. You can only take it for so long and then every once in a while you got to start a holy war over some Swedish Fish. Either some of you live inside bubbles in this country or you yourself have your mini little aneurism over things and never report back here about any of it. Or you just sit there and observe and never take action, the holy shiftless who will watch a building burn to the ground rather than call the fire department.

MOP - Fixing society with one public eruption at a time.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her.

And here's the problem that you consistently fail to realize: these events don't "happen" to you and SIDA; you create them.

That's where you fail to realize, we don't create these situations. If people would act right then it wouldn't happen. Most of the time I don't say much, I just go about my business, in the last 5 years I bet I haven't had more than 1 of these threads a year, I've learned it is better to avoid conflict, but every once in a while you gotta fire back, you gotta draw a line in the sand. It just happened to be Swedish Fish as I was running a fever and had the flu.

Would I have said much if I were a well person that day? Maybe/maybe not.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's amazing and par for the course in here. Henry and others decide to sidestep the actual issues and just go for character assassination. You would rather pick on the person trying to explain the situation than actually discuss the downward spiral of society. Or maybe you just want to poke a couple folks on an IMB and I completely understand that as well.

Take it down to a simple level, this has happened to everyone. You are driving and you are cut off or someone jumps in front of you and tap the horn to let them know you are there...and then you get the proverbial middle finger extended your way even though you did absolutely nothing wrong. And so many of you seem to accept bad behavior from others except when the person who is being irritated decides to answer back. Then it seems all of you have strong opinions that the person who is setting the situation straight as to what is really up, that person is now the bad guy. It's hilarious the thinking patterns in here.

Do as you like but you know inside that head of yours that we're right. You can only take it for so long and then every once in a while you got to start a holy war over some Swedish Fish. Either some of you live inside bubbles in this country or you yourself have your mini little aneurism over things and never report back here about any of it. Or you just sit there and observe and never take action, the holy shiftless who will watch a building burn to the ground rather than call the fire department.

MOP - Fixing society with one public eruption at a time.

That one got me chuckling as well.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?

I love this presumptive question.

And yet, 100% on the mark.

 

[igbomb]

And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her. Now I also understand why people are ragging on him, I also understand what he is saying, I just would not verbalize that to this person in line.

yes, internally I am saying similar things to myself that Sida would say, so I guess the difference in that situation is I would not have said anything, not worth getting arrested over for sure. They went about it the wrong way but it doesn't change the sadness that people buy nonessentials with government money, when did that become acceptable? In the 80s?, 90s? I'm sure there was a time in this country when you wouldn't dare buy nonessentials with food stamps or else someone would say something about it. Now it is so common that no one seems to care...the standards have been lowered in this country and continue to slide.

You know who is worse than the people that make poor shopping choices on government money? D-bags who think that because they paid one fraction of a cent towards that person's food that they now have the right to assess and judge whether the poor person is making appropriate shopping choices.

Where does the logic come from this? I don't want to turn the thread into an attack/defense of government freeloaders but how can you defend people who get free credits for food and then buy Frosted Flakes, Pop Tarts, and Doritos? I'm sorry but they can eat a lot healthier and nutritious buying other things. I do feel the money should be used for essentials like milk, bread, eggs, meat, fruits & veggies, why is that such a rotten thing? Because the next thing is they are constantly unhealthy and costing even more money in the emergency rooms in this country.

But anyways, you can hate on us all you like but your attack(I know we're just bantering here) is not grounded in anything other than emotion.

[SIZE=medium]I know it’s pointless to try to argue a point with you since you are clearly convinced of your own righteousness.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]But no developed country on this planet demonizes their poor like we do. We give them money (though a lot less than other countries do) and then we treat them like crap because they have the nerve to be poor and take that money. As any psychologist will tell you, you tell someone they are a piece of crap for long enough and they start to believe it. Either that or they just say f you to the world and become embittered.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Folks like you decry the state of society today, but our country and its policies have created that society. And it’s not because we create a ‘welfare state’ and discourage people from picking themselves up. As I’ve pointed out, every other developed nation is MORE generous and LESS restrictive with giving aid to the poor. It’s because we do NOT create the opportunities for these people to get themselves to a better place in life. You can point our your anecdotes of people who grew up poor and pulled themselves out of it through willpower. Hell, I grew up broke, living in a trailer park with a single mom. And I managed to blaze through school and head off to college and live a great life. But all you need to do is look at the data that says this is the exception and not the rule to see that we are clearly doing it wrong.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]We’ve been labeling the poor as lazy and stupid since the 80s at least, and it’s not helpful at all. And people like you that make them feel smaller or more resentful simply reinforce any lack of faith they have in the system and keep the circle going. The only other answer to the inability of the bottom chunk of America to pull themselves out of it is to believe that we are somehow genetically inferior to the people in every other developed nation.[/SIZE]

 

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And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her. Now I also understand why people are ragging on him, I also understand what he is saying, I just would not verbalize that to this person in line.

yes, internally I am saying similar things to myself that Sida would say, so I guess the difference in that situation is I would not have said anything, not worth getting arrested over for sure. They went about it the wrong way but it doesn't change the sadness that people buy nonessentials with government money, when did that become acceptable? In the 80s?, 90s? I'm sure there was a time in this country when you wouldn't dare buy nonessentials with food stamps or else someone would say something about it. Now it is so common that no one seems to care...the standards have been lowered in this country and continue to slide.

You know who is worse than the people that make poor shopping choices on government money? D-bags who think that because they paid one fraction of a cent towards that person's food that they now have the right to assess and judge whether the poor person is making appropriate shopping choices.

Where does the logic come from this? I don't want to turn the thread into an attack/defense of government freeloaders but how can you defend people who get free credits for food and then buy Frosted Flakes, Pop Tarts, and Doritos? I'm sorry but they can eat a lot healthier and nutritious buying other things. I do feel the money should be used for essentials like milk, bread, eggs, meat, fruits & veggies, why is that such a rotten thing? Because the next thing is they are constantly unhealthy and costing even more money in the emergency rooms in this country.

But anyways, you can hate on us all you like but your attack(I know we're just bantering here) is not grounded in anything other than emotion.

[SIZE=medium]I know it’s pointless to try to argue a point with you since you are clearly convinced of your own righteousness.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]But no developed country on this planet demonizes their poor like we do. We give them money (though a lot less than other countries do) and then we treat them like crap because they have the nerve to be poor and take that money. As any psychologist will tell you, you tell someone they are a piece of crap for long enough and they start to believe it. Either that or they just say f you to the world and become embittered.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Folks like you decry the state of society today, but our country and its policies have created that society. And it’s not because we create a ‘welfare state’ and discourage people from picking themselves up. As I’ve pointed out, every other developed nation is MORE generous and LESS restrictive with giving aid to the poor. It’s because we do NOT create the opportunities for these people to get themselves to a better place in life. You can point our your anecdotes of people who grew up poor and pulled themselves out of it through willpower. Hell, I grew up broke, living in a trailer park with a single mom. And I managed to blaze through school and head off to college and live a great life. But all you need to do is look at the data that says this is the exception and not the rule to see that we are clearly doing it wrong.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]We’ve been labeling the poor as lazy and stupid since the 80s at least, and it’s not helpful at all. And people like you that make them feel smaller or more resentful simply reinforce any lack of faith they have in the system and keep the circle going. The only other answer to the inability of the bottom chunk of America to pull themselves out of it is to believe that we are somehow genetically inferior to the people in every other developed nation.[/SIZE]

Great post, wish would stop putting me down and just defend your position but you actually do a great job of defending mine. The reason it is the exception and not the rule is because we have allowed that to happen. People still all but kill themselves to get into this country so they can attend our Universities. We make it easy for people to get into college these days. If you don't earn great grades and get a scholarship, we allow community colleges and they only require a GED to start enrolling.

I had to go back to school in my 30s, my parents were poor from West Virginia, my mother become a teacher and went back to school at Nova Southeastern. My father did not complete college until he was in his late 30s and had a career in banking. They could have easily lived of the federal government like some of their family did back in West Virginia and Ohio, but they wanted a better life. If a person has a desire to succeed and is willing to work, America is still a pretty fair place for folks to pull themselves out of poverty. The bigger problem is there is no incentive these days for those people to want to join the middle class or working class I would rather refer to it. After the taxes and expenses a lot of people who work everyday and work hard are not that much better off than those who are handed everything by the government. Wages have stayed stagnant for about 20-30 years for most Americans.

But let's get back to Swedish Fish.