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Run in with a Walgreens Mgr over some Swedish Fish (1 Viewer)

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".
How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?
why would you stay there under citizens arrest? what kind of an ahole makes an ahole of himself and then stays under citizens arrest? wtf is up with that story?
In the original version, I summarized and left out some stuff.

I never suspected for a moment that anything was even going to happen. What crime was I guilty of? I found everything about this woman laughable and was fully expecting the police to arrive (if they did) and tell her she was SOL. In fact, I was more nervous about her calling up some peeps and a potential physical confrontation.

In hindsight, I would have just left and went home. But, I continued shopping at the center and the police arrived. The officer had probably cause to question me. Then he issued the summons to appear in court.

It wasn't like she tackled me to the ground or handcuffed me. Nor did she place me under citizens arrest before the cops arrived. In theory, had I left nothing probably would have ever happened. They took her statement and took mine and apparently she demanded that I be placed under citizens arrest. . For some reason, and on what basis I have never understood, they cited me on the spot. Needless to say, I was shocked and the joke ultimately was on me. However, there was never any chance in hell I was going to be convicted of anything.

So, I hope that clears it up to some degree.

 
I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".
How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?
why would you stay there under citizens arrest? what kind of an ahole makes an ahole of himself and then stays under citizens arrest? wtf is up with that story?
In the original version, I summarized and left out some stuff. I never suspected for a moment that anything was even going to happen. What crime was I guilty of? I found everything about this woman laughable and was fully expecting the police to arrive (if they did) and tell her she was SOL. In fact, I was more nervous about her calling up some peeps and a potential physical confrontation.

In hindsight, I would have just left and went home. But, I continued shopping at the center and the police arrived. The officer had probably cause to question me. Then he issued the summons to appear in court.

It wasn't like she tackled me to the ground or handcuffed me. Nor did she place me under citizens arrest before the cops arrived. In theory, had I left nothing probably would have ever happened. They took her statement and took mine and apparently she demanded that I be placed under citizens arrest. . For some reason, and on what basis I have never understood, they cited me on the spot. Needless to say, I was shocked and the joke ultimately was on me. However, there was never any chance in hell I was going to be convicted of anything.

So, I hope that clears it up to some degree.
I have good news. Unless a non police officer placed you under arrest, you weren't under citizen's arrest. You weren't even under actual arrest.

 
I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".
How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?
why would you stay there under citizens arrest? what kind of an ahole makes an ahole of himself and then stays under citizens arrest? wtf is up with that story?
In the original version, I summarized and left out some stuff. I never suspected for a moment that anything was even going to happen. What crime was I guilty of? I found everything about this woman laughable and was fully expecting the police to arrive (if they did) and tell her she was SOL. In fact, I was more nervous about her calling up some peeps and a potential physical confrontation.

In hindsight, I would have just left and went home. But, I continued shopping at the center and the police arrived. The officer had probably cause to question me. Then he issued the summons to appear in court.

It wasn't like she tackled me to the ground or handcuffed me. Nor did she place me under citizens arrest before the cops arrived. In theory, had I left nothing probably would have ever happened. They took her statement and took mine and apparently she demanded that I be placed under citizens arrest. . For some reason, and on what basis I have never understood, they cited me on the spot. Needless to say, I was shocked and the joke ultimately was on me. However, there was never any chance in hell I was going to be convicted of anything.

So, I hope that clears it up to some degree.
So you hopped in line to return your items, waited a few minutes for the #### to find her receipts to return some stuff, went to the other register to complete your return, found out that #### does this kind of thing for a living, called her a ####, walked out in the parking lot, called BBY corporate to report the ####, saw the #### again and followed her to her minivan, wrote down the ####'s license plate, got into another confrontation with the ####, THEN went BACK IN to shop and then got arrested?Yeah, these things just happen to guys like you and MoPe.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
tommyGunZ said:
Great post, wish would stop putting me down and just defend your position but you actually do a great job of defending mine. The reason it is the exception and not the rule is because we have allowed that to happen. People still all but kill themselves to get into this country so they can attend our Universities. We make it easy for people to get into college these days. If you don't earn great grades and get a scholarship, we allow community colleges and they only require a GED to start enrolling.

I had to go back to school in my 30s, my parents were poor from West Virginia, my mother become a teacher and went back to school at Nova Southeastern. My father did not complete college until he was in his late 30s and had a career in banking. They could have easily lived of the federal government like some of their family did back in West Virginia and Ohio, but they wanted a better life. If a person has a desire to succeed and is willing to work, America is still a pretty fair place for folks to pull themselves out of poverty. The bigger problem is there is no incentive these days for those people to want to join the middle class or working class I would rather refer to it. After the taxes and expenses a lot of people who work everyday and work hard are not that much better off than those who are handed everything by the government. Wages have stayed stagnant for about 20-30 years for most Americans.

But let's get back to Swedish Fish.
Bull####. You need to take the SNAP challenge and then see if you still feel that way.
What is bullspit? The notion that families of 4 with $50,000 a year household income are not that much better off than those under the poverty line? That's more than twice the allotted money and these families barely have two nickels to rub together, where is the disconnect exactly?

Please tell me TG you are not going to turn this into splitting up the working class into little factions, that's the big problem. I do not differ much between the family making $50k and the family making $150k, the ones making more simply have nicer cars, little bigger house, but they have the same day to day bullspit everyone else has.

You might have missed a few of my posts over the past couple years but people who start taking gripes with other people who make $25k more a year and are still in the same class, that's exactly what they want in Washington. Turn the guy making $100k against the guy making $50k, that's the problem in this country but it really isn't. The problem is the majority(the working class) of folks fall in the $25k-$250k a year and they fight amongst themselves when they should band together and take on the Company that is making $250 Million, not $250 thousand...they must have a good time in Congress, Senate, and White House laughing at how stupid we are in this country.

To allow the people we elected in office to make rules that largely do not help any of us but thousands of rules and laws in place to help the rich and money making greedy companies...we have gotta be pretty stupid in this country.

OK TG, where do you want to start here?
Let's start with folks like you (likely in a household making ~ $150k+) stop demonizing folks who are making 1/5 of that and using social benefits to buy essentials like food and shelter. They are not the ####### problem.
Yeah, but you have to draw a line in the sand.
 
I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".
How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?
why would you stay there under citizens arrest? what kind of an ahole makes an ahole of himself and then stays under citizens arrest? wtf is up with that story?
In the original version, I summarized and left out some stuff. I never suspected for a moment that anything was even going to happen. What crime was I guilty of? I found everything about this woman laughable and was fully expecting the police to arrive (if they did) and tell her she was SOL. In fact, I was more nervous about her calling up some peeps and a potential physical confrontation.

In hindsight, I would have just left and went home. But, I continued shopping at the center and the police arrived. The officer had probably cause to question me. Then he issued the summons to appear in court.

It wasn't like she tackled me to the ground or handcuffed me. Nor did she place me under citizens arrest before the cops arrived. In theory, had I left nothing probably would have ever happened. They took her statement and took mine and apparently she demanded that I be placed under citizens arrest. . For some reason, and on what basis I have never understood, they cited me on the spot. Needless to say, I was shocked and the joke ultimately was on me. However, there was never any chance in hell I was going to be convicted of anything.

So, I hope that clears it up to some degree.
I have good news. Unless a non police officer placed you under arrest, you weren't under citizen's arrest. You weren't even under actual arrest.
Is SIDA! MOP's son?
:lol:

 
I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".
How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?
why would you stay there under citizens arrest? what kind of an ahole makes an ahole of himself and then stays under citizens arrest? wtf is up with that story?
In the original version, I summarized and left out some stuff. I never suspected for a moment that anything was even going to happen. What crime was I guilty of? I found everything about this woman laughable and was fully expecting the police to arrive (if they did) and tell her she was SOL. In fact, I was more nervous about her calling up some peeps and a potential physical confrontation.

In hindsight, I would have just left and went home. But, I continued shopping at the center and the police arrived. The officer had probably cause to question me. Then he issued the summons to appear in court.

It wasn't like she tackled me to the ground or handcuffed me. Nor did she place me under citizens arrest before the cops arrived. In theory, had I left nothing probably would have ever happened. They took her statement and took mine and apparently she demanded that I be placed under citizens arrest. . For some reason, and on what basis I have never understood, they cited me on the spot. Needless to say, I was shocked and the joke ultimately was on me. However, there was never any chance in hell I was going to be convicted of anything.

So, I hope that clears it up to some degree.
I have good news. Unless a non police officer placed you under arrest, you weren't under citizen's arrest. You weren't even under actual arrest.
I am not sure I am following you when you say unless a "non police officer" placed me under arrest. I was told by the police officer who cited me with a court date that I was being placed under citizens arrest. I actually had to appear before the court and be arraigned. I have never heard of anyone facing misdemeanor charges without being arrested...but I could be mistaken about that since I am not a legal professional.

I can simply relay to you all what was told to me.

I do know this...if I never showed up to court there would have been a problem for me.

 
I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".
How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?
I love this presumptive question.
And yet, 100% on the mark.
Also, presumptive vs. presumptuous makes this gold. If you're a nerd like I am.
Glad we can have some levity in the thread even though we disagree. I am not sure what I did wrong here. Not an English major.

Isn't presumptive an extension of presumption which is the belief that something is true without proof that it is true?
Presumptive means it can be guessed with reasonable certainty because of a sizeable amount of evidence.

"Barack Obama is the presumptive 2012 Democratic Presidential Nominee, since he's the incumbent President."
I follow you on that and get the reason why you find that funny. If presumptive meant it could be "guessed with reasonable certainty" then I guess I would see your point. According to Dictionary.com presumptive as a couple of variations of its meaning:

pre·sump·tive [pri-zuhmp-tiv] Show IPA
adjective1.affording ground for presumption: presumptive evidence.
2.based on presumption: a presumptive title.
3.regarded as such by presumption; based on inference.
4.Embryology . pertaining to the part of an embryo that, in the course of normal development,will predictably become a particular structure or region.
pre·sump·tion [pri-zuhmp-shuhn] Show IPA
noun1.the act of presuming.
2.assumption of something as true.
3.belief on reasonable grounds or probable evidence.
4.something that is presumed; an assumption.
5.a ground or reason for presuming or believing.
Seems clear to me that there are multiple meanings. But, I get why you found the meaning your were thinking of to be funny.

 
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I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.
Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?
No it doesn't so what do you suggest?
I suggest not losing your #### over relatively minor things and/or things that are not your business.
OPM and Others who agree with him:

Let's move away from the quips, jokes and wisecracks and discuss this...if you don't mind.

What is my business in society nowadays?

If you are out and about in public with your kids and some teenagers or adults are cursing in front of your kids, are you the guy who decides that it is your obligation to move to another place? Or do you feel like you have some right to say something?

If you are out at the park with your kid and some other kid(s) uses a racial epithet towards your kid...are you the guy who shuttles little Johnny into the car and goes home or do you confront the kid and their parent(s).

If your neighbor is having a party late into the night with loud music...are you moving to a hotel for the night? Or do you go and ask them to turn it down?

You are at your kid's school christmas play and one of the parents refuses to take their crying kid into the hallway so others can listen and enjoy the performance. Are you the guy that walks on over and commiserates about how tough raising kids can be..or do you tell them to leave the hall so others can actually listen?

Do you guys get somewhere like a concert early and then allow all the late comers to crowd you out and ruin your spot or line of sight?

You are in a restaurant trying to enjoy your evening when a couple with three kids who have no manners sit down next to you. Are you guys unfazed by the kids running around the table and yelling and fighting over mom and dad's cell phones while you try to enjoy a meal you paid for? Or do you just roll eyes at each other or whisper about what crappy parents they are?

You are in the movie theater and a person in the row behind you keeps kicking your seat. They aren't being jerks..they just have a habit of fidgeting and didn't realize it. Are you the guy that spends 15 bucks on a movie and refuses to look back and tell them to please stop? What about the teens/college kids talking and answering text messages during the movie. You say nothing? Or do you decide to be the bigger person and walk out and ask for a refund. I mean...who cares you paid for a sitter and made plans to see the movie. Life is too short to get worked up over this kind of stuff, right?

If the lady in BBB ran out of the store after stealing something are you the guy who is just going to let her go right on by or are you going to get involved? Who care if a fortune 500 company loses a few bucks.

I am sincerely curious as to why you guys think it is acceptable to allow people to basically engage in such incredibly selfish and inconsiderate behavior and act like you guys are somehow above it all. As if, the person who is checking the people who are out of line is somehow in the wrong. I mean ... it is the twilight zone in here with some of the responses I have read.

I have basically been in every single one of these scenarios. I think it is clear what my response/or action taken was in the above examples.

 
Sida you obviously haven't learned. Sometimes you need to stand up, but 99% of the time you're better off ignoring or removing yourself from a situation. Otherwise it escalates. Go off on the wrong person and get best up, shot, or arrested in a Barnes and noble. Nobody gives a #### about you or your opinion. You go off and that person is not impacted by what you said at all except for the entertainment factor. You waste your time and expose yourself to risk.

 
I doubt SIDA does the same thing if it's a man instead of a woman in line.
I find it highly amusing that you make a statement like this in the same thread where I get obliterated because I dare to suggest poor people on welfare should actually buy staples that are cheaper and actually make their food instead of spending it on prepackaged goods and junk food. I am scolded for making assumptions about their plight or situation as if the giant 13 tattooed on the back of their skull or woman with 5 kids from what was obviously three different dads by the time she was 22 are down on their luck from one of life's unfortunate circumstances. Clearly... they are on welfare because society put them there and not from their own doing.

I don't play the internet tough guy nor a real life tough guy. But, your statement above is wrong. I really don't have any problem confronting men or women about their inconsiderate conduct. Whether you believe me or not, you would be surprised at how surprised these people are and their reaction is usually one of embarrassment and apologies.

Responses like the one above by Leeroy Jenkins is why society is so effed up nowadays. Everyone thinks they are on their own little island and that nobody should say a G-damn thing to anyone else. You guys can go sit down in the back of the bus with your headphones and keep your head down. Ill tell the dumb ####s in the front to move out of the seat for the old lady. It is minor and it really is none of my business...but I was raised to believe that we have some obligations to others in a society.

 
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I doubt SIDA does the same thing if it's a man instead of a woman in line.
I find it highly amusing that you make a statement like this in the same thread where I get obliterated because I dare to suggest poor people on welfare should actually buy staples that are cheaper and actually make their food instead of spending it on prepackaged goods and junk food. I am scolded for making assumptions about their plight or situation as if the giant 13 tattooed on the back of their skull or woman with 5 kids from what was obviously three different dads by the time she was 22 are down on their luck from one of life's unfortunate circumstances. Clearly... they are on welfare because society put them there and not from their own doing.

I don't play the internet tough guy nor a real life tough guy. But, your statement above is wrong. I really don't have any problem confronting men or women about their inconsiderate conduct. Whether you believe me or not, you would be surprised at how surprised these people are and their reaction is usually one of embarrassment and apologies.

Responses like the one above by Leeroy Jenkins is why society is so effed up nowadays. Everyone thinks they are on their own little island and that nobody should say a G-damn thing to anyone else. You guys can go sit down in the back of the bus with your headphones and keep your head down. Ill tell the dumb ####s in the front to move out of the seat for the old lady. It is minor and it really is none of my business...but I was raised to believe that we have some obligations to others in a society.
Seek. Help.

 
I doubt SIDA does the same thing if it's a man instead of a woman in line.
I find it highly amusing that you make a statement like this in the same thread where I get obliterated because I dare to suggest poor people on welfare should actually buy staples that are cheaper and actually make their food instead of spending it on prepackaged goods and junk food. I am scolded for making assumptions about their plight or situation as if the giant 13 tattooed on the back of their skull or woman with 5 kids from what was obviously three different dads by the time she was 22 are down on their luck from one of life's unfortunate circumstances. Clearly... they are on welfare because society put them there and not from their own doing.

I don't play the internet tough guy nor a real life tough guy. But, your statement above is wrong. I really don't have any problem confronting men or women about their inconsiderate conduct. Whether you believe me or not, you would be surprised at how surprised these people are and their reaction is usually one of embarrassment and apologies.

Responses like the one above by Leeroy Jenkins is why society is so effed up nowadays. Everyone thinks they are on their own little island and that nobody should say a G-damn thing to anyone else. You guys can go sit down in the back of the bus with your headphones and keep your head down. Ill tell the dumb ####s in the front to move out of the seat for the old lady. It is minor and it really is none of my business...but I was raised to believe that we have some obligations to others in a society.
Seek. Help.
You are on a roll. Very substantive contributions.

I'll put you down in the "I am afraid of getting shot so I'll hide my nuts" and "Avoids air travel" columns.

 
I doubt SIDA does the same thing if it's a man instead of a woman in line.
I find it highly amusing that you make a statement like this in the same thread where I get obliterated because I dare to suggest poor people on welfare should actually buy staples that are cheaper and actually make their food instead of spending it on prepackaged goods and junk food. I am scolded for making assumptions about their plight or situation as if the giant 13 tattooed on the back of their skull or woman with 5 kids from what was obviously three different dads by the time she was 22 are down on their luck from one of life's unfortunate circumstances. Clearly... they are on welfare because society put them there and not from their own doing.

I don't play the internet tough guy nor a real life tough guy. But, your statement above is wrong. I really don't have any problem confronting men or women about their inconsiderate conduct. Whether you believe me or not, you would be surprised at how surprised these people are and their reaction is usually one of embarrassment and apologies.

Responses like the one above by Leeroy Jenkins is why society is so effed up nowadays. Everyone thinks they are on their own little island and that nobody should say a G-damn thing to anyone else. You guys can go sit down in the back of the bus with your headphones and keep your head down. Ill tell the dumb ####s in the front to move out of the seat for the old lady. It is minor and it really is none of my business...but I was raised to believe that we have some obligations to others in a society.
I admire what you are saying here but sometimes you have to be careful not to go too far before getting all of the facts. My wife and I were in line for supper a few weeks back and someone was hitting the trays into each other and our drinks spilled a good bit. So my wife gives me that look not to say anything but like you that is not my style. So I go down the line to confront whoever is banging the trays and it turned out to be a child hitting a tray with his toy race car. I know it is the parents responsibility to watch the child but he was infront of his parents in line and there was no way for them to know he would do that. So had i have started yelling I would have been blindly yelling at a 5 year old child. Needless to say i mentioned to the parents that our trays had been knocked into and our drinks had spilled and they apologized. No problem they have free refills where we were and they swapped out or trays. Had an adult or teen been doing it on purpose they would have heard from me and I don't apologize to anyone for saying anything in that situation. Just make sure you know all of the facts. that's a good way to approach everything actually.

 
I doubt SIDA does the same thing if it's a man instead of a woman in line.
I find it highly amusing that you make a statement like this in the same thread where I get obliterated because I dare to suggest poor people on welfare should actually buy staples that are cheaper and actually make their food instead of spending it on prepackaged goods and junk food. I am scolded for making assumptions about their plight or situation as if the giant 13 tattooed on the back of their skull or woman with 5 kids from what was obviously three different dads by the time she was 22 are down on their luck from one of life's unfortunate circumstances. Clearly... they are on welfare because society put them there and not from their own doing.

I don't play the internet tough guy nor a real life tough guy. But, your statement above is wrong. I really don't have any problem confronting men or women about their inconsiderate conduct. Whether you believe me or not, you would be surprised at how surprised these people are and their reaction is usually one of embarrassment and apologies.

Responses like the one above by Leeroy Jenkins is why society is so effed up nowadays. Everyone thinks they are on their own little island and that nobody should say a G-damn thing to anyone else. You guys can go sit down in the back of the bus with your headphones and keep your head down. Ill tell the dumb ####s in the front to move out of the seat for the old lady. It is minor and it really is none of my business...but I was raised to believe that we have some obligations to others in a society.
Seek. Help.
You are on a roll. Very substantive contributions. I'll put you down in the "I am afraid of getting shot so I'll hide my nuts" and "Avoids air travel" columns.
I'll put you down for "I carry a gun, so I unzip and display my scrotum in public" and "No one will talk to me unless strapped into a chair and disallowed by federal law from standing up until we reach cruising altitude."

 
oh good christ....you believe this SIDA! is for real? Come on. Awful fishing. Stop.
ya think? He's wasting a ton of time looking stupid.
He and MOP both make these stories up. You guys love 'em. MOP makes a living doing it. This SIDA! is just one-upping MOP in his own thread. No way in hell either story is 'real'. I'm sure part of it is based in some sort of reality, but the rest is fiction. MOP gets his rocks off watching us twist and turn at his tails of idiocy. Come on...we've done this before.

 
I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.
Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?
Officer Pete:

Is there anything that you find in society annoying or aggravating? I find it impossible to believe that somehow you do not judge anybody else around you nor get irked by anything that you see. The only thing that apparently irks you is other people expressing how the actions of others irk them.

Are you Ghandi?
Yes. Yes I am Ghandi.
witness

 
I doubt SIDA does the same thing if it's a man instead of a woman in line.
I find it highly amusing that you make a statement like this in the same thread where I get obliterated because I dare to suggest poor people on welfare should actually buy staples that are cheaper and actually make their food instead of spending it on prepackaged goods and junk food. I am scolded for making assumptions about their plight or situation as if the giant 13 tattooed on the back of their skull or woman with 5 kids from what was obviously three different dads by the time she was 22 are down on their luck from one of life's unfortunate circumstances. Clearly... they are on welfare because society put them there and not from their own doing.

I don't play the internet tough guy nor a real life tough guy. But, your statement above is wrong. I really don't have any problem confronting men or women about their inconsiderate conduct. Whether you believe me or not, you would be surprised at how surprised these people are and their reaction is usually one of embarrassment and apologies.

Responses like the one above by Leeroy Jenkins is why society is so effed up nowadays. Everyone thinks they are on their own little island and that nobody should say a G-damn thing to anyone else. You guys can go sit down in the back of the bus with your headphones and keep your head down. Ill tell the dumb ####s in the front to move out of the seat for the old lady. It is minor and it really is none of my business...but I was raised to believe that we have some obligations to others in a society.
I admire what you are saying here but sometimes you have to be careful not to go too far before getting all of the facts. My wife and I were in line for supper a few weeks back and someone was hitting the trays into each other and our drinks spilled a good bit. So my wife gives me that look not to say anything but like you that is not my style. So I go down the line to confront whoever is banging the trays and it turned out to be a child hitting a tray with his toy race car. I know it is the parents responsibility to watch the child but he was infront of his parents in line and there was no way for them to know he would do that. So had i have started yelling I would have been blindly yelling at a 5 year old child. Needless to say i mentioned to the parents that our trays had been knocked into and our drinks had spilled and they apologized. No problem they have free refills where we were and they swapped out or trays. Had an adult or teen been doing it on purpose they would have heard from me and I don't apologize to anyone for saying anything in that situation. Just make sure you know all of the facts. that's a good way to approach everything actually.
Hey Willie, think maybe you could bring this up in your next podcast?

TIA. YIC.

 
I doubt SIDA does the same thing if it's a man instead of a woman in line.
I find it highly amusing that you make a statement like this in the same thread where I get obliterated because I dare to suggest poor people on welfare should actually buy staples that are cheaper and actually make their food instead of spending it on prepackaged goods and junk food. I am scolded for making assumptions about their plight or situation as if the giant 13 tattooed on the back of their skull or woman with 5 kids from what was obviously three different dads by the time she was 22 are down on their luck from one of life's unfortunate circumstances. Clearly... they are on welfare because society put them there and not from their own doing.

I don't play the internet tough guy nor a real life tough guy. But, your statement above is wrong. I really don't have any problem confronting men or women about their inconsiderate conduct. Whether you believe me or not, you would be surprised at how surprised these people are and their reaction is usually one of embarrassment and apologies.

Responses like the one above by Leeroy Jenkins is why society is so effed up nowadays. Everyone thinks they are on their own little island and that nobody should say a G-damn thing to anyone else. You guys can go sit down in the back of the bus with your headphones and keep your head down. Ill tell the dumb ####s in the front to move out of the seat for the old lady. It is minor and it really is none of my business...but I was raised to believe that we have some obligations to others in a society.
Seek. Help.
You are on a roll. Very substantive contributions. I'll put you down in the "I am afraid of getting shot so I'll hide my nuts" and "Avoids air travel" columns.
I'll put you down for "I carry a gun, so I unzip and display my scrotum in public" and "No one will talk to me unless strapped into a chair and disallowed by federal law from standing up until we reach cruising altitude."
I don't own a gun...so that column won't work for me. Do you care to share what you would have done in the scenarios I listed above .. or would you rather just take shots about what I have done without putting yourself on record as to how you would handle situations.

 
I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.
Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?
Officer Pete:

Is there anything that you find in society annoying or aggravating? I find it impossible to believe that somehow you do not judge anybody else around you nor get irked by anything that you see. The only thing that apparently irks you is other people expressing how the actions of others irk them.

Are you Ghandi?
I get annoyed when people write checks for things, especially when they don't bother to get their checkbook out until they get their total. Somehow, though, I am able to muster the willpower not to drop the C-bomb on them or follow them around in the parking lot.
seems so simple, but HOW do you do it?

 
oh good christ....you believe this SIDA! is for real? Come on. Awful fishing. Stop.
ya think? He's wasting a ton of time looking stupid.
He and MOP both make these stories up. You guys love 'em. MOP makes a living doing it. This SIDA! is just one-upping MOP in his own thread. No way in hell either story is 'real'. I'm sure part of it is based in some sort of reality, but the rest is fiction. MOP gets his rocks off watching us twist and turn at his tails of idiocy. Come on...we've done this before.
:lmao:

Calling a thread or comment a fishing expedition is a great tactic. If you keep saying it and I don't respond it looks like I am hiding something. If I respond and say it isn't, it still looks like I am making it up. When I get done beating my wife I come back and tell you guys what really happened...

 
I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.
Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?
Officer Pete:

Is there anything that you find in society annoying or aggravating? I find it impossible to believe that somehow you do not judge anybody else around you nor get irked by anything that you see. The only thing that apparently irks you is other people expressing how the actions of others irk them.

Are you Ghandi?
I get annoyed when people write checks for things, especially when they don't bother to get their checkbook out until they get their total. Somehow, though, I am able to muster the willpower not to drop the C-bomb on them or follow them around in the parking lot.
seems so simple, but HOW do you do it?
Well...after he let five people cut in line in front of him without saying anything...he was too far away to say anything and still be heard. So he just muttered to himself and pointed to the shirt...

 
I doubt SIDA does the same thing if it's a man instead of a woman in line.
I find it highly amusing that you make a statement like this in the same thread where I get obliterated because I dare to suggest poor people on welfare should actually buy staples that are cheaper and actually make their food instead of spending it on prepackaged goods and junk food. I am scolded for making assumptions about their plight or situation as if the giant 13 tattooed on the back of their skull or woman with 5 kids from what was obviously three different dads by the time she was 22 are down on their luck from one of life's unfortunate circumstances. Clearly... they are on welfare because society put them there and not from their own doing.

I don't play the internet tough guy nor a real life tough guy. But, your statement above is wrong. I really don't have any problem confronting men or women about their inconsiderate conduct. Whether you believe me or not, you would be surprised at how surprised these people are and their reaction is usually one of embarrassment and apologies.

Responses like the one above by Leeroy Jenkins is why society is so effed up nowadays. Everyone thinks they are on their own little island and that nobody should say a G-damn thing to anyone else. You guys can go sit down in the back of the bus with your headphones and keep your head down. Ill tell the dumb ####s in the front to move out of the seat for the old lady. It is minor and it really is none of my business...but I was raised to believe that we have some obligations to others in a society.
Seek. Help.
You are on a roll. Very substantive contributions. I'll put you down in the "I am afraid of getting shot so I'll hide my nuts" and "Avoids air travel" columns.
I'll put you down for "I carry a gun, so I unzip and display my scrotum in public" and "No one will talk to me unless strapped into a chair and disallowed by federal law from standing up until we reach cruising altitude."
I don't own a gun...so that column won't work for me. Do you care to share what you would have done in the scenarios I listed above .. or would you rather just take shots about what I have done without putting yourself on record as to how you would handle situations.
Why don't you see if you can see the difference between a stranger returning items at Bed Bath & Beyond and someone calling your kid a racial epithet.

 
Sida you obviously haven't learned. Sometimes you need to stand up, but 99% of the time you're better off ignoring or removing yourself from a situation. Otherwise it escalates. Go off on the wrong person and get best up, shot, or arrested in a Barnes and noble. Nobody gives a #### about you or your opinion. You go off and that person is not impacted by what you said at all except for the entertainment factor. You waste your time and expose yourself to risk.
I can remember being at a Barnes and Noble and some lady screaming at me for rearranging the political books so that there were more liberal books on display than conservative ones. It was, to say the least, bizarre for so many reasons. (Not the least of which is that the book I was reading wasn't a political book, and I probably wouldn't be pumping Ted Kennedy's latest opus on the bookshelves.) Regardless, this absurd thread reminded me of that sorta admittedly boring story for some reason. Given the attention she drew to both of us -- and people began to realize she was kinda crazy -- it's probably an example of why you should really sort of mind your business most of the time in everyday life. Even if you feel wronged, you can wind up just kind of looking crazy and in need of some sort of authoritarian care.

eta* I should clarify that in no way was I actually rearranging books. She just thought I was.

 
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I doubt SIDA does the same thing if it's a man instead of a woman in line.
I find it highly amusing that you make a statement like this in the same thread where I get obliterated because I dare to suggest poor people on welfare should actually buy staples that are cheaper and actually make their food instead of spending it on prepackaged goods and junk food. I am scolded for making assumptions about their plight or situation as if the giant 13 tattooed on the back of their skull or woman with 5 kids from what was obviously three different dads by the time she was 22 are down on their luck from one of life's unfortunate circumstances. Clearly... they are on welfare because society put them there and not from their own doing.

I don't play the internet tough guy nor a real life tough guy. But, your statement above is wrong. I really don't have any problem confronting men or women about their inconsiderate conduct. Whether you believe me or not, you would be surprised at how surprised these people are and their reaction is usually one of embarrassment and apologies.

Responses like the one above by Leeroy Jenkins is why society is so effed up nowadays. Everyone thinks they are on their own little island and that nobody should say a G-damn thing to anyone else. You guys can go sit down in the back of the bus with your headphones and keep your head down. Ill tell the dumb ####s in the front to move out of the seat for the old lady. It is minor and it really is none of my business...but I was raised to believe that we have some obligations to others in a society.
Seek. Help.
You are on a roll. Very substantive contributions. I'll put you down in the "I am afraid of getting shot so I'll hide my nuts" and "Avoids air travel" columns.
You honestly seem dangerously close to a heart attack/stroke, aneurism, or mass murder. You've been arrested/cited for your insanity once, but you keep insisting you're in the right.

 
Sida you obviously haven't learned. Sometimes you need to stand up, but 99% of the time you're better off ignoring or removing yourself from a situation. Otherwise it escalates. Go off on the wrong person and get best up, shot, or arrested in a Barnes and noble. Nobody gives a #### about you or your opinion. You go off and that person is not impacted by what you said at all except for the entertainment factor. You waste your time and expose yourself to risk.
I can remember being at a Barnes and Noble and some lady screaming at me for rearranging the political books so that there were more liberal books on display than conservative ones. It was, to say the least, bizarre for so many reasons. (Not the least of which is that the book I was reading wasn't a political book, and I probably wouldn't be pumping Ted Kennedy's latest opus on the bookshelves.) Regardless, this absurd thread reminded me of that sorta admittedly boring story for some reason. Given the attention she drew to both of us -- and people began to realize she was kinda crazy -- it's probably an example of why you should really sort of mind your business most of the time in everyday life. Even if you feel wronged, you can wind up just kind of looking crazy and in need of some sort of authoritarian care.

eta* I should clarify that in no way was I actually rearranging books. She just thought I was.
Sometimes you have to draw a line in the sand, pal.
 
oh good christ....you believe this SIDA! is for real? Come on. Awful fishing. Stop.
ya think? He's wasting a ton of time looking stupid.
He and MOP both make these stories up. You guys love 'em. MOP makes a living doing it. This SIDA! is just one-upping MOP in his own thread. No way in hell either story is 'real'. I'm sure part of it is based in some sort of reality, but the rest is fiction. MOP gets his rocks off watching us twist and turn at his tails of idiocy. Come on...we've done this before.
:lmao:

Calling a thread or comment a fishing expedition is a great tactic. If you keep saying it and I don't respond it looks like I am hiding something. If I respond and say it isn't, it still looks like I am making it up. When I get done beating my wife I come back and tell you guys what really happened...
She showed up at home with Dorito breath?

 
If the lady in BBB ran out of the store after stealing something are you the guy who is just going to let her go right on by or are you going to get involved? Who care if a fortune 500 company loses a few bucks.
You had some good points until this one. While it sounds good in theory you're setting yourself up for a lawsuit.

 
I can't wait for the day where MoP's son somehow stumbles into the FFA and begins to post stories about how despite having a deadbeat father who didn't contribute to his life growing up, he was able to rise above all obstacles and now is a successful produce manager at 3 Whole Foods and just recently got a template to add his name to the company letterhead.

 
General Malaise said:
flapgreen said:
General Malaise said:
oh good christ....you believe this SIDA! is for real? Come on. Awful fishing. Stop.
ya think? He's wasting a ton of time looking stupid.
He and MOP both make these stories up. You guys love 'em. MOP makes a living doing it. This SIDA! is just one-upping MOP in his own thread. No way in hell either story is 'real'. I'm sure part of it is based in some sort of reality, but the rest is fiction. MOP gets his rocks off watching us twist and turn at his tails of idiocy. Come on...we've done this before.
The OP is 100% true, nothing fabricated and I don't think it was really that unbelievable.

 
Henry Ford said:
SIDA! said:
Henry Ford said:
SIDA! said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
SIDA! said:
SacramentoBob said:
I doubt SIDA does the same thing if it's a man instead of a woman in line.
I find it highly amusing that you make a statement like this in the same thread where I get obliterated because I dare to suggest poor people on welfare should actually buy staples that are cheaper and actually make their food instead of spending it on prepackaged goods and junk food. I am scolded for making assumptions about their plight or situation as if the giant 13 tattooed on the back of their skull or woman with 5 kids from what was obviously three different dads by the time she was 22 are down on their luck from one of life's unfortunate circumstances. Clearly... they are on welfare because society put them there and not from their own doing.

I don't play the internet tough guy nor a real life tough guy. But, your statement above is wrong. I really don't have any problem confronting men or women about their inconsiderate conduct. Whether you believe me or not, you would be surprised at how surprised these people are and their reaction is usually one of embarrassment and apologies.

Responses like the one above by Leeroy Jenkins is why society is so effed up nowadays. Everyone thinks they are on their own little island and that nobody should say a G-damn thing to anyone else. You guys can go sit down in the back of the bus with your headphones and keep your head down. Ill tell the dumb ####s in the front to move out of the seat for the old lady. It is minor and it really is none of my business...but I was raised to believe that we have some obligations to others in a society.
Seek. Help.
You are on a roll. Very substantive contributions. I'll put you down in the "I am afraid of getting shot so I'll hide my nuts" and "Avoids air travel" columns.
I'll put you down for "I carry a gun, so I unzip and display my scrotum in public" and "No one will talk to me unless strapped into a chair and disallowed by federal law from standing up until we reach cruising altitude."
I don't own a gun...so that column won't work for me. Do you care to share what you would have done in the scenarios I listed above .. or would you rather just take shots about what I have done without putting yourself on record as to how you would handle situations.
Why don't you see if you can see the difference between a stranger returning items at Bed Bath & Beyond and someone calling your kid a racial epithet.
I love threads like this on FBG.

Critics of something being discussed, like yourself, will go on and on about how the OP or myself are crazy or in la la land...but they refuse to put themselves in a position to explain what actions they would take because they do not want to be judge or have their thought processes evaluated. So...it is easy to make quips, wisecracks and simply focus on making the OP look crazy or insane without subjecting yourself to any inspection.

I give you several scenarios and you refuse to even remotely engage in a serious discussion about the topic. Hell...even the statement above is vague. I am assuming you are saying that you would somehow muster up the courage to confront the kid/parent in the above situation. But, I cannot be certain. Seems kind of odd for some of you to risk getting shot and killed and having your kid grow up fatherless because you couldn't take a little name calling.

I mean...life is too short to worry about that stuff. Wouldn't that have been the perfect opportunity to teach your kid about how they should be strong and not allow words from another person to hurt their feelings, etc. Is getting killed by some loon in a park over a spat about your kid being called names really a smart idea? I mean...are you insane!?

If you are saying that you would confront this kid and his parents...where is Leeroy Jenkins. Surely, based on his replies to me...he must think you are insane to do something that crazy. There is like ... you know.. a chance that you might get shot and killed.

When my son told me about what happened I immediately got up and confronted the kids and their family. I didn't brush my kid off and tell him some lame story about how some people are just not very nice and you need to ignore them or some other such nonsense. I taught him how to stand up for himself, because based on the current trend in our society and the comments made by the peanut gallery here, he is on his own. Based on what I have seen here...you all would just turn away and act like you didn't see or hear anything.

None of you guys have the balls to really put yourself out there and start explaining what you would do or how you would react to a variety of situations. Because then it starts to get a little complicated and messy. Instead...some of you suggest vague concepts that would guide your actions based on whether it was minor or not, or whether it was my business or not.

It is the FBG...I totally get the jokes and making fun of comments are distorting comments made for laughs. I laugh at a lot of things you guys write in here and elsewhere. Makes FBG great. But at the end of the day, if you all are telling me that you run the opposite direction like a little ##### or remain silent to avoid confrontation whenever you see inconsiderate people do inconsiderate/selfish things, then I really don't have much more to say other than what I opened with. I can't live that way and walk through life like that. If you guys don't mind being punked and simply roll over whenever the above scenarios I mentioned happen...then that is insane to me. I could never be a patsy like that.

So, unless anyone really wants to have a serious discussion about societal obligations to each other, what makes a society function or individual accountability then I am pretty much finished with this discussion and turn it back over to MOP and the regularly scheduled program.

Good day to you all.

 
You may not know this about me, but I'm a plaintiff's attorney. "Mustering up the courage to say something" to someone isn't really an issue for me. In fact, people hire me to do that for them.

 
You may not know this about me, but I'm a plaintiff's attorney. "Mustering up the courage to say something" to someone isn't really an issue for me. In fact, people hire me to do that for them.
:lmao:

Oh. So you are a courageous guy in the courtroom and through mail carriers?

 

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