Running backs - get 'em. Trust me. (1 Viewer)

[Evilgrin 72]

I would expect to see LeVeon Bell's name on more of these rosters.

I had my big $ draft two nights ago in a league that typically goes QB-heavy very early (6 pt TD passes, league skews a bit TD-heavy - 1 point per 20 yds rushing, 1 pt per 15 yds receiving, no PPR, no TE required) and expected people to back off QBs a bit and draft RBs early. Instead, 4 QBs went in the top 5 picks. I was at #10 and ended up with Calvin Johnson and Spiller at 10 and 15. Then the RB run went bats### over the next 18 picks and I was forced to punt QB and RB2 and take advantage of the WR value. Ended up with

QB - Wilson, A. Smith

RB - Spiller, Sproles, D. Williams, Ivory, L. Bell, F. Jax

WR - Calvin and Andre Johnson, VJax, J. Gordon

I'm REALLY hoping Bell emerges as my every-week RB2 out of that group (and that Wilson averages 2.5 TDs a week like he did the second half of last season.)

 

[We Tigers]

I have it on good authority that if you didn't get any running backs, you will indeed be in trouble.

 

[pghrob]

You swapped from first to 6th and didn't pick up an extra 4th round pick? That was a swindle. Sorry but that team #1 looks stout. ADP is the cherry on top, and you got no value for him. Good luck!

No takers who wanted to give an extra pick. In mocks, I didn't see drop off from ADP to others as big as drop off in second round. ADP is no LT2 or Priest or Shaun Alexander. I tried, I failed. We'll see what happens. Thx for replying.

Correct. ADP is better than those guys.

You are getting way too fancy trading out of the 1.01. I offered a lot to get up to the 1.01 in every draft this year and could never get it. AP has been a top 5 fantasy RB every one of the last 5 seasons, I believe. He was top 3 in 2011 before going down with the injury late in the year.

From a FFB perspective, Peterson is a far cry from those guys.

In fact, Peterson has only three of the top 100 fantasy seasons amongst all runningbacks since 1989. He finished 26th in 2012 with 309.4, 36th in 2009 with 290.5 points, and 99th in 2008 with 248.5 points.

 

[VikingFrog]

You swapped from first to 6th and didn't pick up an extra 4th round pick? That was a swindle. Sorry but that team #1 looks stout. ADP is the cherry on top, and you got no value for him. Good luck!

No takers who wanted to give an extra pick. In mocks, I didn't see drop off from ADP to others as big as drop off in second round. ADP is no LT2 or Priest or Shaun Alexander. I tried, I failed. We'll see what happens. Thx for replying.

Correct. ADP is better than those guys. You are getting way too fancy trading out of the 1.01. I offered a lot to get up to the 1.01 in every draft this year and could never get it. AP has been a top 5 fantasy RB every one of the last 5 seasons, I believe. He was top 3 in 2011 before going down with the injury late in the year.

From a FFB perspective, Peterson is a far cry from those guys.In fact, Peterson has only three of the top 100 fantasy seasons amongst all runningbacks since 1989. He finished 26th in 2012 with 309.4, 36th in 2009 with 290.5 points, and 99th in 2008 with 248.5 points.

Counting his rookie year and the year he got hurt seems kind of odd in your statistical analysis.

 

[pghrob]

You swapped from first to 6th and didn't pick up an extra 4th round pick? That was a swindle. Sorry but that team #1 looks stout. ADP is the cherry on top, and you got no value for him. Good luck!

No takers who wanted to give an extra pick. In mocks, I didn't see drop off from ADP to others as big as drop off in second round. ADP is no LT2 or Priest or Shaun Alexander. I tried, I failed. We'll see what happens. Thx for replying.

Correct. ADP is better than those guys. You are getting way too fancy trading out of the 1.01. I offered a lot to get up to the 1.01 in every draft this year and could never get it. AP has been a top 5 fantasy RB every one of the last 5 seasons, I believe. He was top 3 in 2011 before going down with the injury late in the year.

From a FFB perspective, Peterson is a far cry from those guys.In fact, Peterson has only three of the top 100 fantasy seasons amongst all runningbacks since 1989. He finished 26th in 2012 with 309.4, 36th in 2009 with 290.5 points, and 99th in 2008 with 248.5 points.

Counting his rookie year and the year he got hurt seems kind of odd in your statistical analysis.

What's odd? All I did was run a query that asked for the top fantasy seasons at the rb position since 1989? All other injured players and rookies were included in the results. I am sure Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, Priest Holmes, Shaun Alexander, and Emmit Smith all had seasons not in the top 100 due to either it being their rookie seasons and/or a season cut short by injury.

 

[VikingFrog]

You swapped from first to 6th and didn't pick up an extra 4th round pick? That was a swindle. Sorry but that team #1 looks stout. ADP is the cherry on top, and you got no value for him. Good luck!

No takers who wanted to give an extra pick. In mocks, I didn't see drop off from ADP to others as big as drop off in second round. ADP is no LT2 or Priest or Shaun Alexander. I tried, I failed. We'll see what happens. Thx for replying.

Correct. ADP is better than those guys. You are getting way too fancy trading out of the 1.01. I offered a lot to get up to the 1.01 in every draft this year and could never get it. AP has been a top 5 fantasy RB every one of the last 5 seasons, I believe. He was top 3 in 2011 before going down with the injury late in the year.

From a FFB perspective, Peterson is a far cry from those guys.In fact, Peterson has only three of the top 100 fantasy seasons amongst all runningbacks since 1989. He finished 26th in 2012 with 309.4, 36th in 2009 with 290.5 points, and 99th in 2008 with 248.5 points.

Counting his rookie year and the year he got hurt seems kind of odd in your statistical analysis.

What's odd? All I did was run a query that asked for the top fantasy seasons at the rb position since 1989? All other injured players and rookies were included in the results. I am sure Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, Priest Holmes, Shaun Alexander, and Emmit Smith all had seasons not in the top 100 due to either it being their rookie seasons and/or a season cut short by injury.

Touché

 

[shadyridr]

You swapped from first to 6th and didn't pick up an extra 4th round pick? That was a swindle. Sorry but that team #1 looks stout. ADP is the cherry on top, and you got no value for him. Good luck!

No takers who wanted to give an extra pick. In mocks, I didn't see drop off from ADP to others as big as drop off in second round. ADP is no LT2 or Priest or Shaun Alexander. I tried, I failed. We'll see what happens. Thx for replying.

Correct. ADP is better than those guys. You are getting way too fancy trading out of the 1.01. I offered a lot to get up to the 1.01 in every draft this year and could never get it. AP has been a top 5 fantasy RB every one of the last 5 seasons, I believe. He was top 3 in 2011 before going down with the injury late in the year.

From a FFB perspective, Peterson is a far cry from those guys.In fact, Peterson has only three of the top 100 fantasy seasons amongst all runningbacks since 1989. He finished 26th in 2012 with 309.4, 36th in 2009 with 290.5 points, and 99th in 2008 with 248.5 points.

Counting his rookie year and the year he got hurt seems kind of odd in your statistical analysis.

lol wut

 

[VikingFrog]

You swapped from first to 6th and didn't pick up an extra 4th round pick? That was a swindle. Sorry but that team #1 looks stout. ADP is the cherry on top, and you got no value for him. Good luck!

No takers who wanted to give an extra pick. In mocks, I didn't see drop off from ADP to others as big as drop off in second round. ADP is no LT2 or Priest or Shaun Alexander. I tried, I failed. We'll see what happens. Thx for replying.

Correct. ADP is better than those guys. You are getting way too fancy trading out of the 1.01. I offered a lot to get up to the 1.01 in every draft this year and could never get it. AP has been a top 5 fantasy RB every one of the last 5 seasons, I believe. He was top 3 in 2011 before going down with the injury late in the year.

From a FFB perspective, Peterson is a far cry from those guys.In fact, Peterson has only three of the top 100 fantasy seasons amongst all runningbacks since 1989. He finished 26th in 2012 with 309.4, 36th in 2009 with 290.5 points, and 99th in 2008 with 248.5 points.

Counting his rookie year and the year he got hurt seems kind of odd in your statistical analysis.

lol wut

Going to go ahead and eat a full bowl of crow.

Not sure how I read that statement earlier and what I was trying to defend seeing as those seasons I mentioned actually made it into the top 100.

 

[ponchsox]

How is that working out for ya?

 

[Bobby Guano]

How is that working out for ya?

If you had the #1 pick and got ADP pretty good....anybody else not so much!

All my leagues are PPR 2RB 3WR.

Next year I'm going with some form of 3WR and 1QB in the the first 4 rounds and running with mid-late round scraps and lotto tickets @ RB. It just doesn't seem worth it taking a RB before the 5th round IMO.

 

[Kenny Powers]

How is that working out for ya?

Wrong thread to bump this early from the stance going WR early, which Im assuming is what you are alluding to. Demaryius and Green had huge games, and Megatron and Dez had total clunkers.

Gotta wait until at least the halfway point this year to determine value from the WR vs RB standpoint.

 

[mbuehner]

Yeah, and im sure the the guys that went Spiller/Ridley are sittin pretty right now.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Yeah, and im sure the the guys that went Spiller/Ridley are sittin pretty right now.

My case in point, to a degree. 1 week does not make a season.

 

[Chaka]

I love it when people crow before the week is even finished.

Reactionary much?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

How is that working out for ya?

If you had the #1 pick and got ADP pretty good....anybody else not so much!

All my leagues are PPR 2RB 3WR.

Next year I'm going with some form of 3WR and 1QB in the the first 4 rounds and running with mid-late round scraps and lotto tickets @ RB. It just doesn't seem worth it taking a RB before the 5th round IMO.

Absolutely the right time to make this call.

 

[Shutout]

Seems like the reactions/over reactions are WAY extreme this year.

Hopefully people won't be giving up on good players too soon. Remember, its a marathon laced with attrition, not a sprint.

I'm sure there are teams out there right now with Tom Brady, Dez Bryant, Calvin, Spiller, etc who are bottom feeders right now but let's revisit this in Week 14. I probably wouldn't want to play that group.

 

[mbuehner]

A LOT of RBs struggled yesterday. Of the 15 RBs with ADPs in the first two rounds- 8 didn't finish in the top 20, and 3 havent played yet.

What's that mean? Nothing, really. Running backs are volatile, which is the point. The middraft shotgun style can be very effective if you miss out on the very elite RB talent in the top half of the first round. Of course you may miss (the LMiller, Ivory, Bradshaw teams are probably having some indigestion this morning). But you may miss with RB/RB as well. Its not easy to tell- but I have a lot more confidence in the CJ and Roddy Whites of the world finishing strong than even a Lynch or Spiller not getting beaten out by a teammate if they struggle. Handcuffs arent just for injuries.

Anyway- ignore all that. Running backs struggle early as their O-lines gel and defenses are at the height of their health and athleticism. Shouldn't be shocking thats its looking like a remarkably bad week for rushing the ball, almost across the board (so far).

 

[shadyridr]

How is that working out for ya?

Yep I passed on a lot of stud WRs for some middling RBs. Id like to thank this thread for ruining my season

 

[Man of Zen]

How is that working out for ya?

TRich - Meh. But looked good that opening drive, when they were feeding him like the hog he is. He's a Norv back, so he's going to get his.

Forte - Awesome. Meh on the YPC, but tons of use in all facets of the game, including goal line.

Bush - Better than awesome. Turned down two trade offers already today.

Bowe sucked eggs as a mid-round WR, but Amendola looked killer. The rest of the mid-round WR fest plays tonight. If Garcon and Djax look ok, I'm calling the whole thing a raging success, pending TRich coming around, which I'm firmly convinced he will.

Passing on TE's and QB's looking like a very solid move, so far. So, no regrets.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Proposition:

If you have the No. 1 RB in your league your chances of winning your league are exponentially higher.

Corrollary: if someone offers you the No. 1 RB in a trade and if you want to win your league - take it.

 

[Ilov80s]

RBs: Get some of them, run from most of them.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Proposition:

If you have the No. 1 RB in your league your chances of winning your league are exponentially higher.

Corrollary: if someone offers you the No. 1 RB in a trade and if you want to win your league - take it.

Posit: you won't know for sure who the No. 1 RB in the league is until the end of the season.

 

[mbuehner]

Proposition:

If you have the No. 1 RB in your league your chances of winning your league are exponentially higher.

Corrollary: if someone offers you the No. 1 RB in a trade and if you want to win your league - take it.

If you know which players will end the season 1st at their position, you have a large advantage over the rest of the league. And the world.

 

[shadyridr]

This thread ruined me (not blaming the OP)

 

[Ilov80s]

I posted in this thread drunk a few times, but I think ultimately I was right..maybe.

 

[pantherclub]

upside down drafting, how c

Yeah, and im sure the the guys that went Spiller/Ridley are sittin pretty right now.

My case in point, to a degree. 1 week does not make a season.

what about 3 weeks?

 

[DeaLerZ]

Proposition:

If you have the No. 1 RB in your league your chances of winning your league are exponentially higher.

Corrollary: if someone offers you the No. 1 RB in a trade and if you want to win your league - take it.

If you know which players will end the season 1st at their position, you have a large advantage over the rest of the league. And the world.

yea great advice lol

 

[ponchsox]

Unless you were fortunate enough to land AP, Charles, or McCoy, stud WR, Graham, and Peyton were the way to go in the first few rounds. I took RB in the first two rounds (3 RB in first four) and just got smoked my a team with 3 abysmal RB and 3 stud WR.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I went forte/richardson at the turn in ppr and am sitting at 1-2

thx, obama

 

[Bobby Guano]

Went AJ Green, Brandon Marshell, Jimmy Graham...3-0

My RB's this week were Joique Bell and Andre Ellington.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

I think this all just boils down to the tiers on your draft board. How much better do you think Round 2/3 RB's than 5/6? Last year it looked like a lot so I went RB early & often with good results. This year not so much so I waited on my RB2.

But obviously there's lots of different ways to win/lose. You could've avoided Wilson & Miller like the plague and still be 1-2 if say you have Roddy White and almost timed out before taking Ball over Bernard as your RB3 (umm, not that I know anyone who did that).

 

[Judge Smails]

There's always dogs at the RB position. Very happy with my Alfred Morris, AJ Green, Victor Cruz, McFadden, Stafford, Antonio Brown start. I was just relaying draft trends - and it proved to be the norm.

 

[rascal]

Went McCoy/Morris at first turn.

Went Andre Johnson/Roddy at second turn.

Went Colston/Sproles at third turn.

I'm feeling "ok" about my team.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Went McCoy/Morris at first turn.

Went Andre Johnson/Roddy at second turn.

Went Colston/Sproles at third turn.

I'm feeling "ok" about my team.

I'd be feeling better than ok if I could find a league where mccoy was the last pick in the first.

 

[bucsbaby]

Although my team is 0-3, I'm overall happy with my team and think I still have a shot at the playoffs (6/12 make it). I faced the highest scoring team weeks 1 and 2 and lost week 3 because I sat Snelling for D Wilson.

My league is start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1WR/TE, 1TE, 1K, and 1DST. PPR with some pts for return yardage.

Using QB6, RB12, WR18, TE6, K6, and DST6 as baselines, my team overall is still VBD positive after 3 weeks, so I feel that the wins are coming as I face some of the softer teams in the league.

If I could swap a pair of WR/RB draft decisions I made, I would take McCoy or Charles instead of Calvin in the 1st and DJax instead of DWilson in the 6th. I'd likely be 3-0 with most points in that case. I do kinda regret passing on Charles (I was hellbent on passing on McCoy, which currently looks bad), as he was the only RB other than ADP that I was committed to taking before Calvin. But, in the end, my stubbornness won out and I took Calvin to stick with the WR-WR-WR strategy. DT in the 2nd looks like a stud, but AJ in the 3rd looks iffy at this point. Sproles in the 4th is a hit. Luck in the 5th (after a run on QBs) looks like a push so far. DRich in the 7th would've been a push if he hadn't got injured. I dropped him now for Powell. Drafting J Cameron late is a huge hit and drafting Bradford late looks like a hit as well. Picking up J Thomas off waivers week 1 is helping round out my team a lot, as I'm starting him over AJ this week.

The biggest issue with my team is D Wilson in the 6th being a giant bust so far. So, I acknowledge that I likely would've been a lot better off if I had gone RB-WR-WR, rather than WR-WR-WR. However, the season isn't over yet either.

All in all, I do think the 1st and 2nd round is pretty littered with RB busts, whereas I have to think people would be pretty happy with the WRs, TE, and QBs (except maybe Brees) that went in the first 2 rounds. However, conversely, RB looks a LOT thinner than it did preseason, so if you have an ADP, McCoy, Charles, Beastmode on your team, that is a pretty huge advantage.

So, in sum, if you hit on a first round RB, that would be optimal. Second best would be to have hit on a WR (esp. Julio, for example), Graham, or Peyton.

I think the biggest crux of this debate was the 2nd round RB types and I'm pretty glad I passed on the MJDs, SJaxs, and Ridleys in favour of DT.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Went

1.C.J. Spiller

2. Chris Johnson

3.Reggie Bush

With my 1st 3 picks. I am 1-2 and its not looking a that great for this week. Should have taken Graham and Manning.

 

[kOOk]

There's always dogs at the RB position. Very happy with my Alfred Morris, AJ Green, Victor Cruz, McFadden, Stafford, Antonio Brown start. I was just relaying draft trends - and it proved to be the norm.

You were just relaying draft trends??? the title states,

"Running backs - get 'em. Trust me."

 

[Judge Smails]

There's always dogs at the RB position. Very happy with my Alfred Morris, AJ Green, Victor Cruz, McFadden, Stafford, Antonio Brown start. I was just relaying draft trends - and it proved to be the norm.

You were just relaying draft trends??? the title states,

"Running backs - get 'em. Trust me."

OK - I'll send you some chili or World Series locks to make up for it. Was just sayin if you wanted RB's better grab em early. Daryl freakin Richardson went 37 in my league. That should tell you how fast they came off the board. Doesn't mean one should reach.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I trusted you!

 

[Bad Mojo]

I also trusted you....0-3

 

[rjv]

Went TRich Forte and R Bush my first 3 picks in my ppr 12 teamer. I'm 2-1 and hoping bush plays this week. Cam finally paid off and getting Garçon and Hill to work with and drafting J Thomas late was key. Working theWW for WRs is working out as of now.

 

[kOOk]

send me some chili wtf??

 

[shadyridr]

Went Rice, SJax, Lacy first 3 picks. THANKS ALOT!

Funny thing is my WRs are my strong part (Johnson, Gordon, Decker)

 

[(HULK)]

I'm 3-0, 3-0, 2-1, and 1-2 in all the leagues I went RB heavy. Variance imo.

 

[steveski]

Went Rice, SJax, Lacy first 3 picks. THANKS ALOT!

Funny thing is my WRs are my strong part (Johnson, Gordon, Decker)

You could just have easily gone with Forte, Bush, Lacy (i think he'll still produce) and be happy. And then could just have easily gone with Roddy, Bowe, Nicks and been unhappy. Some picks stick and some don't.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Was just sayin if you wanted RB's better grab em early. Daryl freakin Richardson went 37 in my league. That should tell you how fast they came off the board. Doesn't mean one should reach.

Ummm, excuse me? That's exactly what it means. If everyone else is going for RBs and you "grab 'em early", by definition you're reaching.

Meanwhile, my opinion upthread was that anyone who drafted a guy like Sproles over (wait for it!) Peyton Manning or Demaryius Thomas needed to have his head examined.

 

[pantherclub]

Was just sayin if you wanted RB's better grab em early. Daryl freakin Richardson went 37 in my league. That should tell you how fast they came off the board. Doesn't mean one should reach.

Ummm, excuse me? That's exactly what it means. If everyone else is going for RBs and you "grab 'em early", by definition you're reaching.

Meanwhile, my opinion upthread was that anyone who drafted a guy like Sproles over (wait for it!) Peyton Manning or Demaryius Thomas needed to have his head examined.

this guy gets it

 

[TheCommish]

Thanks to this friggin Obamacare I am now 1-2 in my dynasty league.

Damn this Obamacare.

Saw a "NOBAMA" bumper sticker today

I want one

 

[steveski]

Was just sayin if you wanted RB's better grab em early. Daryl freakin Richardson went 37 in my league. That should tell you how fast they came off the board. Doesn't mean one should reach.

Ummm, excuse me? That's exactly what it means. If everyone else is going for RBs and you "grab 'em early", by definition you're reaching.

Meanwhile, my opinion upthread was that anyone who drafted a guy like Sproles over (wait for it!) Peyton Manning or Demaryius Thomas needed to have his head examined.

The problem with that is if you pass on Sproles and grab one of those guys then next round your looking at Ryan Matthews or someone of that caliber who shouldn't be starting on any roster. There's no clear cut and dry answer. Obviously if your early RB picks worked out, you're happy with going RB early. If you're late round RB's worked out, your philosophy is that you should have waited.

I agree though, if you were guaranteed to grab great late round RB's, the perfect draft would probably start with the first few rounds grabbing 2 WR's and a QB or elite TE. The problem is that almost all RB's are underperforming this year, not just the 1st rounders. I would love having 2 elite WR's in my lineup every week but I'm glad I don't have to decide if I'm starting Ingram or Mathews as my RB2.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Actually what JS did was react to the RB run not by reaching but by following up with value. WR -WR then filling the rest of his starters. Zig when everyone else zags - no sense being the guy at the end of a run.