Ryan Braun wins Appeal! (1 Viewer)

[Wrigley]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am ghappy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

says the Pujols/McGuire guy

 

[JuniorNB]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am ghappy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

technicality my ###. it sat on some guys desk for two freakin' days! You don't even know what he tested positive for. What if it was his STD medication? That doesn't make him a cheater - it makes him stupid at worst. It' not like he's grown 3 sizes like Barry Bonds.You're calling him a cheater with no evidence to back you up.

There's a very simple way for Braun to prove he's clean. And remove the doubt that the 90% of the public has. But you can bet your sweet ### he won't do it.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am ghappy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

technicality my ###. it sat on some guys desk for two freakin' days! You don't even know what he tested positive for. What if it was his STD medication? That doesn't make him a cheater - it makes him stupid at worst. It' not like he's grown 3 sizes like Barry Bonds.You're calling him a cheater with no evidence to back you up.

There's a very simple way for Braun to prove he's clean. And remove the doubt that the 90% of the public has. But you can bet your sweet ### he won't do it.

Again, you have no proof to call him a cheater except a highly suspect sample. He's been exonerated of all wrong doing and he has nothing more to prove to haters like you.

 

[gruecd]

Press conference in 2 minutes. Link

 

[sho nuff]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am ghappy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

technicality my ###. it sat on some guys desk for two freakin' days! You don't even know what he tested positive for. What if it was his STD medication? That doesn't make him a cheater - it makes him stupid at worst. It' not like he's grown 3 sizes like Barry Bonds.You're calling him a cheater with no evidence to back you up.

There's a very simple way for Braun to prove he's clean. And remove the doubt that the 90% of the public has. But you can bet your sweet ### he won't do it.

Like pass every other test he was taken and have the one test in question thrown out?Wait...he has already done that.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am ghappy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

technicality my ###. it sat on some guys desk for two freakin' days! You don't even know what he tested positive for. What if it was his STD medication? That doesn't make him a cheater - it makes him stupid at worst. It' not like he's grown 3 sizes like Barry Bonds.You're calling him a cheater with no evidence to back you up.

There's a very simple way for Braun to prove he's clean. And remove the doubt that the 90% of the public has. But you can bet your sweet ### he won't do it.

Like pass every other test he was taken and have the one test in question thrown out?Wait...he has already done that.

Stupid argument. This can be said for every player that has tested positive.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Press conference in 2 minutes. Link

Watching it now. He's making some very good points.

 

[Wrigley]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am ghappy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

technicality my ###. it sat on some guys desk for two freakin' days! You don't even know what he tested positive for. What if it was his STD medication? That doesn't make him a cheater - it makes him stupid at worst. It' not like he's grown 3 sizes like Barry Bonds.You're calling him a cheater with no evidence to back you up.

There's a very simple way for Braun to prove he's clean. And remove the doubt that the 90% of the public has. But you can bet your sweet ### he won't do it.

Like pass every other test he was taken and have the one test in question thrown out?Wait...he has already done that.

Stupid argument. This can be said for every player that has tested positive.

not true

 

[gruecd]

Press conference in 2 minutes. Link

Watching it now. He's making some very good points.

Yuppp....

 

[hooter311]

I'd like to hear what the technicality was before making any accusations.

I'd like to hear how all the people who definitively know he was using steroids, how they know this.I'm still waiting for a link.Lots of in here

Honest question, haven't looked it up. But is there a possibility if a urine sample is not tested immediately, it is plausible that the testosterone level in it could skyrocket?Suspension should absolutely be set aside due to not following protocol, but Braun is a cheater, the test results still show an extremely high level of testestorone. Disappointed because it seemed like he was one of the few guys who steered clear of that.

How does everyone know what the test results showed? I'm just asking. I've followed this somewhat tangentially, and as far as I recall, I've only seen/heard rumor, "reports" from unnamed sources and sportstalk gossip regarding this whole saga.

Yep. Still waiting for proof from several of the posters here on how they know for sure Braun actually tested positive from an untainted sample. I'll wait some more, I guess.

Still waiting to hear from Brewer fans (who apparently are the only ones in denial) how a urine sample, stored correctly, would somehow test positive for some banned substance.

Arod has to carry around his meals in Styrofoam boxes as a precaution to someone tainting his food. I've seen better security on pee tests for the local call center operators then how Braun's speciman was handled.Really sucks that the herpes rumors came out. He wasn't the only Brewer passing them around in recent years.

 

[hooter311]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am ghappy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

technicality my ###. it sat on some guys desk for two freakin' days! You don't even know what he tested positive for. What if it was his STD medication? That doesn't make him a cheater - it makes him stupid at worst. It' not like he's grown 3 sizes like Barry Bonds.You're calling him a cheater with no evidence to back you up.

There's a very simple way for Braun to prove he's clean. And remove the doubt that the 90% of the public has. But you can bet your sweet ### he won't do it.

Like pass every other test he was taken and have the one test in question thrown out?Wait...he has already done that.

Stupid argument. This can be said for every player that has tested positive.

Did every other player's specimen disappear for a weekend?

 

[Mister Martie]

Wait so people think he didn't actually do roids because of this?

 

[Softballguy]

Press conference in 2 minutes. Link

Watching it now. He's making some very good points.

Yuppp....

None of that. Let the haters keep hating.

 

[Wrigley]

Wait so people think he didn't actually do roids because of this?

Sounds like he doesn't

 

[Disco Stu]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.

I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am ghappy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

technicality my ###. it sat on some guys desk for two freakin' days! You don't even know what he tested positive for. What if it was his STD medication? That doesn't make him a cheater - it makes him stupid at worst. It' not like he's grown 3 sizes like Barry Bonds.You're calling him a cheater with no evidence to back you up.

I have no idea if Braun is clean or not, but the "eyeball test" is meaningless. Andy Pettitte didn't look like a steroid user either.

 

[hooter311]

Wait so people think he didn't actually do roids because of this?

Check out the hulking Goliath of a physical specimen that Braun is!His MVP season wasn't even an outlier, they guy has been an absolute beast since little league.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am ghappy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

technicality my ###. it sat on some guys desk for two freakin' days! You don't even know what he tested positive for. What if it was his STD medication? That doesn't make him a cheater - it makes him stupid at worst. It' not like he's grown 3 sizes like Barry Bonds.You're calling him a cheater with no evidence to back you up.

There's a very simple way for Braun to prove he's clean. And remove the doubt that the 90% of the public has. But you can bet your sweet ### he won't do it.

Like pass every other test he was taken and have the one test in question thrown out?Wait...he has already done that.

Stupid argument. This can be said for every player that has tested positive.

not true

Fair enough. There are always those that failed twice.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am happy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

says the Pujols/McGuire guy

McGwire I already conceded long ago - but Pujols is EXACTLY who I am referring to. He has never tested positive. Yet there were alwyas pervasive rumors that he couldn't be this good without juicing. I find the double standard to be laughable. Braun must be clean and Pujols must be dirty. So despite that Braun had a positive that was overturned, and Pujols NEVER had a positive - Braun is squeaky clean and Pujols has a cloud of suspicion. It doesn't add up.All of that said - I don't care who juices. If they want to take the health risks associated with juicing to realize the benefits that make them hit the ball farther - then go for it. But don't come back with a sob story later to want more money as a retired ballplayer for the costs associated with your deteriorated health.

 

[hooter311]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am happy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

says the Pujols/McGuire guy

McGwire I already conceded long ago - but Pujols is EXACTLY who I am referring to. He has never tested positive. Yet there were alwyas pervasive rumors that he couldn't be this good without juicing. I find the double standard to be laughable. Braun must be clean and Pujols must be dirty. So despite that Braun had a positive that was overturned, and Pujols NEVER had a positive - Braun is squeaky clean and Pujols has a cloud of suspicion. It doesn't add up.All of that said - I don't care who juices. If they want to take the health risks associated with juicing to realize the benefits that make them hit the ball farther - then go for it. But don't come back with a sob story later to want more money as a retired ballplayer for the costs associated with your deteriorated health.

For the record, I don't regard Pujols as a juicer.

 

[Mr.Pack]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

 

[hooter311]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am happy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

says the Pujols/McGuire guy

McGwire I already conceded long ago - but Pujols is EXACTLY who I am referring to. He has never tested positive. Yet there were alwyas pervasive rumors that he couldn't be this good without juicing. I find the double standard to be laughable. Braun must be clean and Pujols must be dirty. So despite that Braun had a positive that was overturned, and Pujols NEVER had a positive - Braun is squeaky clean and Pujols has a cloud of suspicion. It doesn't add up.All of that said - I don't care who juices. If they want to take the health risks associated with juicing to realize the benefits that make them hit the ball farther - then go for it. But don't come back with a sob story later to want more money as a retired ballplayer for the costs associated with your deteriorated health.

Unless you are juicing to become Mr. Universe the health consequences of steroids are extremely minimal. Just boogeyman tactics to scare off kids.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I wonder if some people here had to take a piss test for work that disappeared for a weekend and then came back bad would have a different stance on this....

 

[gruecd]

I wonder if some people here had to take a piss test for work that disappeared for a weekend and then came back bad would have a different stance on this....

Especially if they'd had 25 previous tests that all came back clean...

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

Because they were there and they know everything....you didnt know that?The guy even offered to take a DNA test...essentially saying it wasnt his and his employers declined....

 

[shadyridr]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

You realize when you take a pee test theres an ID # that they seal the vile with and the ID# gets logged as well. The seal was never broken. So how would it be someone else's pee?

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Now, not to stir up the pot, but all you who railed on Braun need to come clean. Us loyal Brewer fans welcome your apology.I'm waiting...

Good on ya, your boy cheated and got away with it. I really am happy that he got away with it because the Brewers already had lost Fielder so it would have been sad to see them lose Braun as well for an extended period. However, he got off on a freaking technicality, make no mistake about that. He's free to play, but this cloud will not soon pass for everyone EXCEPT Brewer fans.

says the Pujols/McGuire guy

McGwire I already conceded long ago - but Pujols is EXACTLY who I am referring to. He has never tested positive. Yet there were alwyas pervasive rumors that he couldn't be this good without juicing. I find the double standard to be laughable. Braun must be clean and Pujols must be dirty. So despite that Braun had a positive that was overturned, and Pujols NEVER had a positive - Braun is squeaky clean and Pujols has a cloud of suspicion. It doesn't add up.All of that said - I don't care who juices. If they want to take the health risks associated with juicing to realize the benefits that make them hit the ball farther - then go for it. But don't come back with a sob story later to want more money as a retired ballplayer for the costs associated with your deteriorated health.

Unless you are juicing to become Mr. Universe the health consequences of steroids are extremely minimal. Just boogeyman tactics to scare off kids.

Also for the record - I have liked Braun since he came up so I am not saying he is a monster. I just wish the rumors and speculations that surround Pujols were met with the same dismissiveness as the rumors surrounding Braun. Even though Pujols is no longer a Redbird, I still admire the heck out of what he has and still will accomplish. Not just on the field but off the field as well. he is a genuinely good guy.

 

[shadyridr]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

Because they were there and they know everything....you didnt know that?

The guy even offered to take a DNA test...essentially saying it wasnt his and his employers declined....

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Sources also told Munson that there was doubt over whose urine was actually being tested. Braun offered to take a DNA test to confirm whose urine was in the sample, but Major League Baseball declined. However, an MLB source told ESPN's Mike Golic that Braun's side backed off of the offer to take a DNA test.

 

[parasaurolophus]

If Braun wants to clear his name he should get the Journal Sentinel to take a urine sample from him every day for a whole year and fedex it to that lab in Montreal. Post the tracking number on a website every day.

People would believe him then if his numbers remained similar.

 

[shadyridr]

I wonder if some people here had to take a piss test for work that disappeared for a weekend and then came back bad would have a different stance on this....

You do realize that the drug policy states that the courier needs to take the sample to a FedEx as soon as possible. If all the FedEx's were closed then he followed the MLB policy 100% to a tee. He took it home in a safe, cool place as is instructed. The fact that there was a FedEx open (even though the employee didnt realize it) means Braun got off on a technicality. If in fact all FedEx's were closed, Braun wouldnt have gotten off.

 

[hooter311]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

Because they were there and they know everything....you didnt know that?

The guy even offered to take a DNA test...essentially saying it wasnt his and his employers declined....

X

Sources also told Munson that there was doubt over whose urine was actually being tested. Braun offered to take a DNA test to confirm whose urine was in the sample, but Major League Baseball declined. However, an MLB source told ESPN's Mike Golic that Braun's side backed off of the offer to take a DNA test.

As soon as news broke the Brewer's ordered the Braun camp to shut the heck up. Braun wanted to hold an immediate press conference. Braun's side backed off because his boss told him to.

 

[shadyridr]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

Because they were there and they know everything....you didnt know that?

The guy even offered to take a DNA test...essentially saying it wasnt his and his employers declined....

X

Sources also told Munson that there was doubt over whose urine was actually being tested. Braun offered to take a DNA test to confirm whose urine was in the sample, but Major League Baseball declined. However, an MLB source told ESPN's Mike Golic that Braun's side backed off of the offer to take a DNA test.

As soon as news broke the Brewer's ordered the Braun camp to shut the heck up. Braun wanted to hold an immediate press conference. Braun's side backed off because his boss told him to.

Yet hes holding a press conference

 

[hooter311]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

Because they were there and they know everything....you didnt know that?

The guy even offered to take a DNA test...essentially saying it wasnt his and his employers declined....

X

Sources also told Munson that there was doubt over whose urine was actually being tested. Braun offered to take a DNA test to confirm whose urine was in the sample, but Major League Baseball declined. However, an MLB source told ESPN's Mike Golic that Braun's side backed off of the offer to take a DNA test.

As soon as news broke the Brewer's ordered the Braun camp to shut the heck up. Braun wanted to hold an immediate press conference. Braun's side backed off because his boss told him to.

Yet hes holding a press conference

Because the appeal process has been completed.

 

[Mr.Pack]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

You realize when you take a pee test theres an ID # that they seal the vile with and the ID# gets logged as well. The seal was never broken. So how would it be someone else's pee?

And even if it is true, how difficult would it be to tamper with it then reseal it with a new top?

Not very difficult at all. My wife does these things and sealing the tubes isn't a difficult process.

 

[shadyridr]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

Because they were there and they know everything....you didnt know that?

The guy even offered to take a DNA test...essentially saying it wasnt his and his employers declined....

X

Sources also told Munson that there was doubt over whose urine was actually being tested. Braun offered to take a DNA test to confirm whose urine was in the sample, but Major League Baseball declined. However, an MLB source told ESPN's Mike Golic that Braun's side backed off of the offer to take a DNA test.

As soon as news broke the Brewer's ordered the Braun camp to shut the heck up. Braun wanted to hold an immediate press conference. Braun's side backed off because his boss told him to.

Yet hes holding a press conference

Because the appeal process has been completed.

Oh I thought you meant as soon as news broke yesterday

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I wonder if some people here had to take a piss test for work that disappeared for a weekend and then came back bad would have a different stance on this....

You do realize that the drug policy states that the courier needs to take the sample to a FedEx as soon as possible. If all the FedEx's were closed then he followed the MLB policy 100% to a tee. He took it home in a safe, cool place as is instructed. The fact that there was a FedEx open (even though the employee didnt realize it) means Braun got off on a technicality. If in fact all FedEx's were closed, Braun wouldnt have gotten off.

So he did check the following day as well and still didnt find one open? It's my understanding that this sample sat on his desk for a couple of days, is that not correct?

 

[B-Deep]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

You realize when you take a pee test theres an ID # that they seal the vile with and the ID# gets logged as well. The seal was never broken. So how would it be someone else's pee?

i think they would have mentioned that in an appeal, unless he has the worst lawyers ever

 

[shadyridr]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

You realize when you take a pee test theres an ID # that they seal the vile with and the ID# gets logged as well. The seal was never broken. So how would it be someone else's pee?

This stuff aint hard to find Chiefhttp://espn.go.com/mlb/spring2012/story/_/id/7611600/2012-spring-training-ryan-braun-milwaukee-brewers-says-test-system-failed

Although MLB officials would not comment on the record, sources told ESPN legal analyst Lester Munson they are still convinced that the sample tested came from Braun, and that the positive test result was correct. They emphasized that the FedEx package that arrived in the Montreal laboratory was sealed three times with tamper-proof seals -- one on the box, one on a plastic bag inside the box, and again on the vial that contained the urine.

The lab chief, an MLB source told ESPN.com, testfied that the urine was not tainted, that it was appropriate for testing, and that it tested positive for testosterone. The baseball officials, sources said, were incensed that Braun, his attorneys and the union successfully attacked the integrity of a collection procedure that is a "joint" procedure.

 

[shadyridr]

I wonder if some people here had to take a piss test for work that disappeared for a weekend and then came back bad would have a different stance on this....

You do realize that the drug policy states that the courier needs to take the sample to a FedEx as soon as possible. If all the FedEx's were closed then he followed the MLB policy 100% to a tee. He took it home in a safe, cool place as is instructed. The fact that there was a FedEx open (even though the employee didnt realize it) means Braun got off on a technicality. If in fact all FedEx's were closed, Braun wouldnt have gotten off.

So he did check the following day as well and still didnt find one open? It's my understanding that this sample sat on his desk for a couple of days, is that not correct?

The next day was Sunday

 

[Disco Stu]

Wait so people think he didn't actually do roids because of this?

Check out the hulking Goliath of a physical specimen that Braun is!His MVP season wasn't even an outlier, they guy has been an absolute beast since little league.

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[pantagrapher]

Wait so people think he didn't actually do roids because of this?

I don't get this either. But then, I've long assumed most elite athletes skirt PED bans.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I wonder if some people here had to take a piss test for work that disappeared for a weekend and then came back bad would have a different stance on this....

You do realize that the drug policy states that the courier needs to take the sample to a FedEx as soon as possible. If all the FedEx's were closed then he followed the MLB policy 100% to a tee. He took it home in a safe, cool place as is instructed. The fact that there was a FedEx open (even though the employee didnt realize it) means Braun got off on a technicality. If in fact all FedEx's were closed, Braun wouldnt have gotten off.

So he did check the following day as well and still didnt find one open? It's my understanding that this sample sat on his desk for a couple of days, is that not correct?

The next day was Sunday

So he asumed there wasn't one open on a Saturday...has he been doing these tests for some time?

 

[pantagrapher]

Wait so people think he didn't actually do roids because of this?

Check out the hulking Goliath of a physical specimen that Braun is!His MVP season wasn't even an outlier, they guy has been an absolute beast since little league.

More hulking roid-heads...1

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[hooter311]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

Because they were there and they know everything....you didnt know that?

The guy even offered to take a DNA test...essentially saying it wasnt his and his employers declined....

X

Sources also told Munson that there was doubt over whose urine was actually being tested. Braun offered to take a DNA test to confirm whose urine was in the sample, but Major League Baseball declined. However, an MLB source told ESPN's Mike Golic that Braun's side backed off of the offer to take a DNA test.

As soon as news broke the Brewer's ordered the Braun camp to shut the heck up. Braun wanted to hold an immediate press conference. Braun's side backed off because his boss told him to.

Yet hes holding a press conference

Because the appeal process has been completed.

Oh I thought you meant as soon as news broke yesterday

No, I was referring to when the suspension was first announced. Apologize about the confusion.

 

[shadyridr]

I wonder if some people here had to take a piss test for work that disappeared for a weekend and then came back bad would have a different stance on this....

You do realize that the drug policy states that the courier needs to take the sample to a FedEx as soon as possible. If all the FedEx's were closed then he followed the MLB policy 100% to a tee. He took it home in a safe, cool place as is instructed. The fact that there was a FedEx open (even though the employee didnt realize it) means Braun got off on a technicality. If in fact all FedEx's were closed, Braun wouldnt have gotten off.

So he did check the following day as well and still didnt find one open? It's my understanding that this sample sat on his desk for a couple of days, is that not correct?

The next day was Sunday

So he asumed there wasn't one open on a Saturday...has he been doing these tests for some time?

yes&

htf do I know?

 

[Disco Stu]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

You realize when you take a pee test theres an ID # that they seal the vile with and the ID# gets logged as well. The seal was never broken. So how would it be someone else's pee?

This stuff aint hard to find Chiefhttp://espn.go.com/mlb/spring2012/story/_/id/7611600/2012-spring-training-ryan-braun-milwaukee-brewers-says-test-system-failed

Although MLB officials would not comment on the record, sources told ESPN legal analyst Lester Munson they are still convinced that the sample tested came from Braun, and that the positive test result was correct. They emphasized that the FedEx package that arrived in the Montreal laboratory was sealed three times with tamper-proof seals -- one on the box, one on a plastic bag inside the box, and again on the vial that contained the urine.

The lab chief, an MLB source told ESPN.com, testfied that the urine was not tainted, that it was appropriate for testing, and that it tested positive for testosterone. The baseball officials, sources said, were incensed that Braun, his attorneys and the union successfully attacked the integrity of a collection procedure that is a "joint" procedure.

Meh. Mrs Pack says they're easy to tamper with.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

yes&htf do I know?

You seem more versed on this then a lot on here so I figured you may know whether this was a new guy doing his job (where the mistake may be understood) or a veteran (which would make this even more confusing)There's definitley doubt in this case...and a lot of it from what I have read so far.

 

[gruecd]

I don't see why this is so confusing. In order to ensure the validity/fairness of the testing process, both sides agree that there must be strict adherence to the protocol, and protocol wasn't followed. Therefore, the test is null and void.

Done deal.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

You realize when you take a pee test theres an ID # that they seal the vile with and the ID# gets logged as well. The seal was never broken. So how would it be someone else's pee?

This stuff aint hard to find Chiefhttp://espn.go.com/mlb/spring2012/story/_/id/7611600/2012-spring-training-ryan-braun-milwaukee-brewers-says-test-system-failed

Although MLB officials would not comment on the record, sources told ESPN legal analyst Lester Munson they are still convinced that the sample tested came from Braun, and that the positive test result was correct. They emphasized that the FedEx package that arrived in the Montreal laboratory was sealed three times with tamper-proof seals -- one on the box, one on a plastic bag inside the box, and again on the vial that contained the urine.

The lab chief, an MLB source told ESPN.com, testfied that the urine was not tainted, that it was appropriate for testing, and that it tested positive for testosterone. The baseball officials, sources said, were incensed that Braun, his attorneys and the union successfully attacked the integrity of a collection procedure that is a "joint" procedure.

Meh. Mrs Pack says they're easy to tamper with.

Is it hard to just re-open and re-package again?

 

[shadyridr]

I don't see why this is so confusing. In order to ensure the validity/fairness of the testing process, both sides agree that there must be strict adherence to the protocol, and protocol wasn't followed. Therefore, the test is null and void.Done deal.

I dont really think anybodys arguing how he won his appeal. Its the denial by some people that think this completely clears his name by suggesting the urine wasnt his or was tampered with or magically grew testosterone in the courier's basement thats annoying.

 

[shadyridr]

The test disappeared for 44hrs.

How can anyone say that that was absolutely positively Brauns test? There were 2 other players tested at the same time.

You realize when you take a pee test theres an ID # that they seal the vile with and the ID# gets logged as well. The seal was never broken. So how would it be someone else's pee?

This stuff aint hard to find Chiefhttp://espn.go.com/mlb/spring2012/story/_/id/7611600/2012-spring-training-ryan-braun-milwaukee-brewers-says-test-system-failed

Although MLB officials would not comment on the record, sources told ESPN legal analyst Lester Munson they are still convinced that the sample tested came from Braun, and that the positive test result was correct. They emphasized that the FedEx package that arrived in the Montreal laboratory was sealed three times with tamper-proof seals -- one on the box, one on a plastic bag inside the box, and again on the vial that contained the urine.

The lab chief, an MLB source told ESPN.com, testfied that the urine was not tainted, that it was appropriate for testing, and that it tested positive for testosterone. The baseball officials, sources said, were incensed that Braun, his attorneys and the union successfully attacked the integrity of a collection procedure that is a "joint" procedure.

Meh. Mrs Pack says they're easy to tamper with.

Is it hard to just re-open and re-package again?

yes, have you never taken a drug test?