The 49ers are thin at WR, unless they have a lot of faith in Jennings and McCloud.
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*** San Francisco 49ers *** discussion thread (3 Viewers)
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efactor
Footballguy
No shares of Kittle but my concern is that if Williams is out (doubtful currently), then they keep Kittle in to help in pass protection and put their faith in Jennings and Bell.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Anyone who watches this and doesn't like/root for him is dead inside.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Source tells me that when #49ers GM John Lynch worked the trade for Randy Gregory, he asked about Patrick Surtain & Denver’s GM practically laughed & said No.
Surtain to SF looks doubtful! But, John Lynch is making calls
Surtain to SF looks doubtful! But, John Lynch is making calls
Wingnut
Footballguy
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TRADE RUMORS: #Panthers do NOT plan on trading LB Brian Burns. Was told they see him as part of their future.
Players who they are willing to “listen to trade offers,”:
• CB Donte Jackson
• CB Jaycee Horn
• WR Laviska Shenault
• WR Terrace Marshall
Panthers want WR’s & draft picks!
Jaycee Horn would be nice
TRADE RUMORS: #Panthers do NOT plan on trading LB Brian Burns. Was told they see him as part of their future.
Players who they are willing to “listen to trade offers,”:
• CB Donte Jackson
• CB Jaycee Horn
• WR Laviska Shenault
• WR Terrace Marshall
Panthers want WR’s & draft picks!
Jaycee Horn would be nice
Wingnut
Footballguy
Ask and ye shall receive.
Purdy In three games without Deebo (all last season)
Kittle: 14 catches, 236 yds, 5 TDs (21 targets)
Aiyuk: 16 catches, 201 yds, 1 TD (23 targets)
The two were targeted 44 of Purdy’s 83 attempts.
The next highest targets were McCaffrey (19) & Jennings (11)
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Need CMC to have a good game fellas. Sending great vibes he stays healthy.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Upcoming schedule after tonight. We have a short week when we play at Seattle on Thanksgiving, but get 10 days rest after that before going to Philadelphia week 13 (Eagles play at home vs Buffalo week 12). Some tough games in there.
Oct 29 Vs Bengals
Bye
Nov 12 @ Jaguars
Nov 19 Vs Bucs
Nov 23 @ Seahawks (prime time Thanksgiving)
Dec 3 @ Eagles
Dec 10 Vs Seahawks
Dec 17 @ Cardinals
Dec 25 @ Ravens (prime time Christmas)
Then we close out the season @ Commanders and vs Rams.
Oct 29 Vs Bengals
Bye
Nov 12 @ Jaguars
Nov 19 Vs Bucs
Nov 23 @ Seahawks (prime time Thanksgiving)
Dec 3 @ Eagles
Dec 10 Vs Seahawks
Dec 17 @ Cardinals
Dec 25 @ Ravens (prime time Christmas)
Then we close out the season @ Commanders and vs Rams.
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Wingnut
Footballguy
I have a gut feeling Juszczyk hits paydirt tonight like he did vs the Cowboys
Took this parlay at +2000
Juice anytime TD
Cousins at least 1 INT
SF win (moneyline)
Took this parlay at +2000
Juice anytime TD
Cousins at least 1 INT
SF win (moneyline)
Shenault would be a great fit for this offense as a poor man's Deebo, who probably would cost like a late day 3 pick.
I would think Horn still costs at least a 2.
Hopefully they get Kittle much more involved this week. Feels like he's being wasted a little so far this season as closer to Juice than the Kelce-adjacent level talent he is.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Report: Vikings heavily pursued Brock Purdy before 49ers drafted QB
Brock Purdy and the 49ers will face Kirk Cousins and the Minnesota Vikings for some "Monday Night Football" action at U.S. Bank Stadium, but that could have been a very different story.
ESPN's Kevin Seifert and Nick Wagoner reported Monday, citing multiple sources, that the Vikings heavily pursued Purdy in the final hours of the 2022 NFL Draft, hoping to sign the Iowa State product to a UDFA deal. Purdy told ESPN last week he was considering the 49ers, Houston Texans and Vikings if he went undrafted.
Of course, San Francisco wound up selecting Purdy with the very last pick in the draft and the 23-year-old quarterback has since emerged as the starter following injuries to former 49ers quarterbacks Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo last season.
in 2017, the 49ers reached out to Washington about trading their No. 2 pick for Cousins, but Washington never returned the phone call.
There's no telling how things would have turned out if Cousins and Purdy were in opposite positions, but for the 49ers, it's safe to say things worked out for the best.
Report: Vikings heavily pursued Brock Purdy before 49ers drafted QB
The Minnesota Vikings reportedly “heavily pursued” Brock Purdy before the 49ers selected the QB with the last pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.
www.nbcsportsbayarea.com
Wingnut
Footballguy
Kittle has 14 TD catches in 17 prime-time games the past 5 seasons. He has 13 TD catches in 40 afternoon games.
Fire it up!!!
Wingnut
Footballguy
Team tiers entering Monday Night (chart HERE)
Gap between Cleveland's #1 defense and the rest of the NFL has narrowed, as has gap between Miami's #1 offense and rest of the league.
The 49ers seem within striking distance of both as the league's only Tier 1 team. Vikings in Tier 6, like the Browns.
Upper right quadrant is where teams want to be. Look at us up there all by ourselves.
Gap between Cleveland's #1 defense and the rest of the NFL has narrowed, as has gap between Miami's #1 offense and rest of the league.
The 49ers seem within striking distance of both as the league's only Tier 1 team. Vikings in Tier 6, like the Browns.
Upper right quadrant is where teams want to be. Look at us up there all by ourselves.
Wingnut
Footballguy
To add to the above post:
A mild adjustment for garbage time will show that the niners are a full tier above anyone else, and the browns D isn’t any better than the Ravens’.
Chart link
A mild adjustment for garbage time will show that the niners are a full tier above anyone else, and the browns D isn’t any better than the Ravens’.
Chart link
That’s discouraging given the Ravens are on the schedule.
Wingnut
Footballguy
The Raven game is a long way away. A lot can change between now and then (and a lot will).
It’s better for SF if we can just chalk up the Browns game as playing a generational defense that SF won’t need to face again. If it turns out the Browns aren’t that special, that’s not great.
Wingnut
Footballguy
The good news is Jim Schwartz isn't a Ravens coach. Schwartz coached teams are 8-1 vs Shanahan coached teams. Yeah, the Browns defense is good, but we still were a missed FG away from the win when we played bad at almost every position and lost Deebo, CMC, and Williams played injured.
QBs the Ravens have played are CJ Stroud, an injured Burrow, Anthony Richardson, Thompson Robsinson, Pickett, Tanehill, and Goff.
I wouldn't worry too much about that defense being lauded right now. Yeah they shut down Goff and the Lions, but other than that they haven't faced much.
Wingnut
Footballguy
DONT EVEN ASK ABOUT DRE!!
SOURCE: #Bills calling around the league looking for LBs. They called John asking for Dre.
It sounds like the Buffalo Bills are working the phones looking for Linebackers. They made a call to the #49ers wanting Dre Greenlaw & Lynch said “NO.”
SOURCE: #Bills calling around the league looking for LBs. They called John asking for Dre.
It sounds like the Buffalo Bills are working the phones looking for Linebackers. They made a call to the #49ers wanting Dre Greenlaw & Lynch said “NO.”
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Just shows how momentum can swing a game. Without that first fumble, they prob roll tonight. 3rd down defense was atrocious, and the DC, wtf? 16 seconds left in the half, let’s bring an all out blitz and leave no help over the top. My 10 year old playing Madden is smarter than that. Almost a fireable offense right there. I also have zero faith in Moody.
I guess the positive (and prob only one) is that we leave without any injuries but this was a ****ing disaster!
I guess the positive (and prob only one) is that we leave without any injuries but this was a ****ing disaster!
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I’d also say we’re going to find out what Brock is made of, the criticism is going to be pouring in this week. I’m confident he responds. He was a 7th round draft pick. He isn’t going to look like Brady 8 seasons in. I’m not sweating, yet.
Wilks should be on the hot seat. The defense has looked atrocious when the offense isn’t spotting them big leads.
I’m sure PFF has Bosa graded highly or whatever but he’s made almost no plays this year that would render him worth that contract. Hargrave and Armstead can’t get any pressure when there’s any threat of a run.
And frankly, if Purdy was who we hoped he was, they’d have won the last couple of games. He’s a good young QB with potential but he’s not an all pro, at least not yet.
I’m sure PFF has Bosa graded highly or whatever but he’s made almost no plays this year that would render him worth that contract. Hargrave and Armstead can’t get any pressure when there’s any threat of a run.
And frankly, if Purdy was who we hoped he was, they’d have won the last couple of games. He’s a good young QB with potential but he’s not an all pro, at least not yet.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
never were, frankly. as long as you have shanahan's kid coaching your team your going to be victims of chokes, inexplicable losses, snatching the defeat from the jaws of victory. soo tired of hearing people say how good shanny's kid is as a head coach, dudes won nothing, not a damn thing, as an NFL head coach. I absolutely love watching shanahan squirm on the sidelines and pace back and forth like pete carroll on meth. shanny with his firehouse subs hat on with the played out straight brim look this is a fatally flawed team that can't win big games who've they beaten so far, um lets see, NYG, Pittsburgh, Dallas. a who's who of who's not in the NFL. ok maybe dallas is half decent. but the rest are bums. minnesota is a pathetic team and they smoked 'em. Can we please, once and for all, put the anointing oils away for the brock purdy movie? cancel the parade and floats..2 key INTs in this game. Even with Ward's fake thigh injury to gain timeout late in the 4th they still couldn't do anything tonight. just simply pathetic.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Why are you up this late? Junior high first period starts early tomorrow.
Worst alias on the forum.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Question…does anyone have doubts about Purdy?
They let Lance go awfully cheap. I realize it was all they could get, but as a non-9er homer, I was perplexed they felt the need to do it unless there’s something I’m not aware of.
They let Lance go awfully cheap. I realize it was all they could get, but as a non-9er homer, I was perplexed they felt the need to do it unless there’s something I’m not aware of.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Wilks is terrible.
When asked if he was OK with Steve Wilks' blitz call before the half, Kyle Shanahan said it is something they'll discuss throughout the week. "I didn't like the result," he said.
When asked if he was OK with Steve Wilks' blitz call before the half, Kyle Shanahan said it is something they'll discuss throughout the week. "I didn't like the result," he said.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I didn’t even read it, stopped right where you quoted and moved along. You should too.
Terpman22
Footballguy
The only thing I have to say is
Why does Nick Bosa suck this year? 2.5 sacks? 10 tackles. I'm not gonna look up the next gen stats, but he seems very much an underperformer this year. Did he get the cash and just not have the fire anymore? It really doesn't add up.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Wingnut
Footballguy
No. He's gonna have growing pains. The problem is the defense.
Bosa has 3.5 sacks in his last 12 games going back to last season (including playoffs). That's just unacceptable.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Oh I didn't read it. It's just annoying to have to scroll.past it.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
This is where I am too. Wtf is going on with him?
Candidly, almost every championship team goes through some mid season wake up call, I’m hopeful that’s what this is.
Bosa has to be looking at the stat sheet and getting angry too. I’m hopeful they’ve woken up from hanging the banner at Levi Stadium and take the gut check seriously.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Nice thread title, welcome to the conclusion of overreaction Monday
See you guys January 20th
See you guys January 20th
Wingnut
Footballguy
Our entire D line isn't getting to the QB. With Bosa, Armstead and Hargrave you'd think at some point there'd be a sack party, but its not happening for whatever reason.
If this team can only go as far as the defense, they're not going far unless they figure it.out, and quick.
Football Jones
Footballguy
I’m genuinely curious how fans feel about him. I called the 9ers the best team in the league (& not close) after they kicked our *** (Cowboys). You guys do have some key injuries, though. The NFL is so unpredictable.
I was just wondering what the current “temperature” is on Purdy.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Agree on Wilks, think we all do, so let’s move on from that. That call at the end of the half could be the worst call by any coach all season. I think we can leave it at that.
To this quote, I think everyone needs to calm down.
It’s Moody that’s the concern to me, not Purdy. I listed 6 guys who need to be healthy for them to win 2 weeks ago, 2 of them were out tonight. So there’s that. But look at it like this:
Moody makes the kick last week, is there this kind of panic? Moody makes the first 40 yarder tonight, we’re down 2, not 5, whole different game and I think Brock would’ve set him up to win it again.
The people that thought he’d continue playing like Joe Montana are probably having a hangover, but those of us who were realistic about him - he’s an league average or so starter, which is pretty damn good for a second year QB basically playing for free - haven’t seen anything to change our minds.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
This
It's like every year we think we know who the good teams and def who the bad teams and then they play the games oh shoot I forget it we know nothing.
It's an up down league. Takes a lot of perseverance to get through the dry spells. SF has that (IMO), but man losing sucks.
Y'all should be fine but def got some things to clean up.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
They were without Williams & Deebo, and they were still in the game till the end.
They’re 5-2, headed for some home cooking against Cinci.
I’m unconcerned.
They’re 5-2, headed for some home cooking against Cinci.
I’m unconcerned.
Wingnut
Footballguy
I have 99% confidence in Purdy
I have 65% confidence in Moody (the 55 yarder tonight might be the kick that rights that ship)
I have 25% confidence in Shanahan right now. He usually puts whatever players he has in position to make plays. I didn't see that much tonight.
I have 10% confidence in the defense.
I have 65% confidence in Moody (the 55 yarder tonight might be the kick that rights that ship)
I have 25% confidence in Shanahan right now. He usually puts whatever players he has in position to make plays. I didn't see that much tonight.
I have 10% confidence in the defense.
If Moody missed that second kick, he’d probably be cut and Gould would be on a plane tomorrow. Re: Purdy, see my post above. I’m not down on him but he isn’t quite as good as his first 14 or whatever starts looked, and that’s ok.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I think the importance of Deebo was really on display tonight.
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