*** San Francisco 49ers *** discussion thread (3 Viewers)

[Joe Bryant]

@Terpman22 what is funny about the 49ers being fine?

Oh its just the "most talented roster in the roster + one of the best coaches" take that I laugh at. I would argue the Eagles are probably more talented, and have a better coach. I credit Shanahan with being a GREAT playcaller, but as far as overall Head Coach, he has a lot of flaws, probably due to the fact he is so focused on playcalling. To each their own, and I'm sure we will find out in a few weeks when both teams match up.

Thanks. 49ers with the most talented roster in the league with one of the best coaches is hardly a hot take. Good luck to your Eagles.

Eagles’ fans consistently troll this thread. Honestly, it’s kind of odd, but for the most part, the core group of posters in here do our best at ignoring them. For a group of fans who continually downplay SF, they sure take a lot of interest in what we say. When they won the NFCC (which I’m sure you’re aware SF played without a QB), they sure enjoyed coming in here to throw salt in the wound. Most of us did a good job of ignoring it, almost all of us do a good job keeping it cordial and acting like adults.

FWIW, Hurts does not look as good as he did last year, just my take, we’ll see how that take plays out in January, but I’ll keep it in here instead of looking for an argument in an Eagles’ thread.

Thanks. That makes sense.

 

[SoBeDad]

Hurts and Purdy are having the same issue, defenses are playing them different now that they have tape. Time will tell if they both can adjust and learn to beat the variety of defenses. Purdy's still just a 2nd year player so I wouldn't sweat it too much, I mean Trevor Lawrence had 0 TD's and 2 picks last year in a loss to the 3-13 Texans. Crap games happen with young QB's.

Give some credit to Flores for forcing Purdy a little off his game with a pressure defense. I think Purdy bounces back. Hurts bounced back from the 3 INT game vs the JETS with a dominating game vs MIA. Hurts is part of the reason AJ Brown on pace for almost 2000 yards. Hurts' has multiple really good plays every game, like the scramble to the right and then TD pass to Brown vs Miami. The INT for a TD was a freak play, not really his fault. His game is only slightly lower than in 2022, mainly because of the INTs, and some were not hs fault.

Many people say KC and PHI have better overall talent than SF. They have more up and coming good young players than SF, aside from Purdy, who is not in the conversation yet with Mahomes or Hurts. The Eagles are also built for 2024 with multiple young players under contract. Younger players are less likely to get hurt.

 

[Snotbubbles]

@Terpman22 what is funny about the 49ers being fine?

Oh its just the "most talented roster in the roster + one of the best coaches" take that I laugh at. I would argue the Eagles are probably more talented, and have a better coach. I credit Shanahan with being a GREAT playcaller, but as far as overall Head Coach, he has a lot of flaws, probably due to the fact he is so focused on playcalling. To each their own, and I'm sure we will find out in a few weeks when both teams match up.

Thanks. 49ers with the most talented roster in the league with one of the best coaches is hardly a hot take. Good luck to your Eagles.

Eagles’ fans consistently troll this thread. Honestly, it’s kind of odd, but for the most part, the core group of posters in here do our best at ignoring them. For a group of fans who continually downplay SF, they sure take a lot of interest in what we say. When they won the NFCC (which I’m sure you’re aware SF played without a QB), they sure enjoyed coming in here to throw salt in the wound. Most of us did a good job of ignoring it, almost all of us do a good job keeping it cordial and acting like adults.

FWIW, Hurts does not look as good as he did last year, just my take, we’ll see how that take plays out in January, but I’ll keep it in here instead of looking for an argument in an Eagles’ thread.

Thanks. That makes sense.

I've been critical of Hurts in the Eagles thread. He hasn't looked as good as he did last year. It's been a combination of things.

1. The new OC early in the season was finding his way with the team and putting his own stamp on this offense. They are running less RPO, 9.9 per game in 2022 vs. 6.6 per game in 2023. They are also running less play action, 8.9 per game in 2022 vs. 5 per game in 2023.

2. Teams are defending the Eagles differently. Last season the Eagles had a bunch of big plays, now teams are trying to keep the safeties back to avoid the big plays and the Eagles have been going on 10+ play drives. In 2022, the Eagles averaged 6.18 plays per drive and 2:48 TOP per drive. In 2023, the Eagles average 7.05 plays per drive and 3:22 TOP per drive. His completion percentage is up, but he's been forced to throw the ball shorter because defenses are trying to keep the Eagles receivers in front of them. The offense has been taking what the defense is giving them and it hasn't quite looked the same, but it has been just as effective. 389 yards per game and 28 points per game in 2022 vs. 389 yards per game and 26.6 points per game in 2023.

3. Early in the season, Hurts wasn't running the ball the same way. He was avoiding contact. He would do a QB draw and slide after a yard when he could have gotten 4 or 5 yards. That has changed, he's back to running more like he did in 2022. His attempts and yards per attempt are down.

4. The luck factor has not played in his favor this year with some of his turnovers. Last season, he had a bunch of passes that should have been picks that were dropped. This season, he's had a bunch of passes that had funny bounces that have been picked. It's definitely a major area of concern for me. The pick 6 last week I give him a pass since it was tipped and went right to a Dolphin defender. Against the Jets he threw a completed pass to Goedert and he got hit and the ball popped to a Jets defender, another pass. Against the Bucs, Swift ran a route and made the wrong read and the ball went where Swift should have gone, another pass in my book. But then there have been bad passes by Hurts, like the INT that lost the Jets game for them. That was horrendous. He needs to clean that stuff up.

He certainly hasn't been as good as last season, but he's still been pretty good.

 

[FarFromHome]

I know this feels more like a real life thread over fantasy, but Niners defense dropped in my league. Kinda crazy how things change. Football always gonna football.

 

[Terpman22]

@Terpman22 what is funny about the 49ers being fine?

Oh its just the "most talented roster in the roster + one of the best coaches" take that I laugh at. I would argue the Eagles are probably more talented, and have a better coach. I credit Shanahan with being a GREAT playcaller, but as far as overall Head Coach, he has a lot of flaws, probably due to the fact he is so focused on playcalling. To each their own, and I'm sure we will find out in a few weeks when both teams match up.

Thanks. 49ers with the most talented roster in the league with one of the best coaches is hardly a hot take. Good luck to your Eagles.

Eagles’ fans consistently troll this thread. Honestly, it’s kind of odd, but for the most part, the core group of posters in here do our best at ignoring them. For a group of fans who continually downplay SF, they sure take a lot of interest in what we say. When they won the NFCC (which I’m sure you’re aware SF played without a QB), they sure enjoyed coming in here to throw salt in the wound. Most of us did a good job of ignoring it, almost all of us do a good job keeping it cordial and acting like adults.

FWIW, Hurts does not look as good as he did last year, just my take, we’ll see how that take plays out in January, but I’ll keep it in here instead of looking for an argument in an Eagles’ thread.

I take your point, and if you think my, what I believe to be, fair criticism of your coach (who @Wingnut seems to agree with me) is trolling, it is what it is. I was just simply disagreeing with the guy who runs the site that the 49ers are gonna be alright, best roster in football, nothing to worry about sorta take, when in reality, as Wingnut fleshes out, the team isn't playing quite the same as last year, or even close to it on defense. I have no problem with 49ers fans, haha, not nearly as much as Cowboys fans, but the fact is we are rivals, its going to be one of the 3 of us in all honesty standing at the end of the year in the NFC, and I like to stay informed on my rivals. I do agree, Hurts is not playing at the same level this year, too many turnovers and teams are playing him differently this year to definitely make sure he doesn't beat them with his legs. I think to a degree, that is true about Purdy as well. But being fair, I do believe Purdy is progressing and if you look at his stats, he is probably having a better year than he did last year. Still a young guy and still defenses don't 100% know exactly what really works against him (aka don't blitz him he'll kill you). I apologize if what I said offended anyone.

 

[Joe Bryant]

@Terpman22 what is funny about the 49ers being fine?

Oh its just the "most talented roster in the roster + one of the best coaches" take that I laugh at. I would argue the Eagles are probably more talented, and have a better coach. I credit Shanahan with being a GREAT playcaller, but as far as overall Head Coach, he has a lot of flaws, probably due to the fact he is so focused on playcalling. To each their own, and I'm sure we will find out in a few weeks when both teams match up.

Thanks. 49ers with the most talented roster in the league with one of the best coaches is hardly a hot take. Good luck to your Eagles.

Eagles’ fans consistently troll this thread. Honestly, it’s kind of odd, but for the most part, the core group of posters in here do our best at ignoring them. For a group of fans who continually downplay SF, they sure take a lot of interest in what we say. When they won the NFCC (which I’m sure you’re aware SF played without a QB), they sure enjoyed coming in here to throw salt in the wound. Most of us did a good job of ignoring it, almost all of us do a good job keeping it cordial and acting like adults.

FWIW, Hurts does not look as good as he did last year, just my take, we’ll see how that take plays out in January, but I’ll keep it in here instead of looking for an argument in an Eagles’ thread.

I take your point, and if you think my, what I believe to be, fair criticism of your coach (who @Wingnut seems to agree with me) is trolling, it is what it is. I was just simply disagreeing with the guy who runs the site that the 49ers are gonna be alright, best roster in football, nothing to worry about sorta take, when in reality, as Wingnut fleshes out, the team isn't playing quite the same as last year, or even close to it on defense. I have no problem with 49ers fans, haha, not nearly as much as Cowboys fans, but the fact is we are rivals, its going to be one of the 3 of us in all honesty standing at the end of the year in the NFC, and I like to stay informed on my rivals. I do agree, Hurts is not playing at the same level this year, too many turnovers and teams are playing him differently this year to definitely make sure he doesn't beat them with his legs. I think to a degree, that is true about Purdy as well. But being fair, I do believe Purdy is progressing and if you look at his stats, he is probably having a better year than he did last year. Still a young guy and still defenses don't 100% know exactly what really works against him (aka don't blitz him he'll kill you). I apologize if what I said offended anyone.

What do you predict the 49ers record to be at the end of the regular season?

 

[Terpman22]

@Terpman22 what is funny about the 49ers being fine?

Oh its just the "most talented roster in the roster + one of the best coaches" take that I laugh at. I would argue the Eagles are probably more talented, and have a better coach. I credit Shanahan with being a GREAT playcaller, but as far as overall Head Coach, he has a lot of flaws, probably due to the fact he is so focused on playcalling. To each their own, and I'm sure we will find out in a few weeks when both teams match up.

Thanks. 49ers with the most talented roster in the league with one of the best coaches is hardly a hot take. Good luck to your Eagles.

Eagles’ fans consistently troll this thread. Honestly, it’s kind of odd, but for the most part, the core group of posters in here do our best at ignoring them. For a group of fans who continually downplay SF, they sure take a lot of interest in what we say. When they won the NFCC (which I’m sure you’re aware SF played without a QB), they sure enjoyed coming in here to throw salt in the wound. Most of us did a good job of ignoring it, almost all of us do a good job keeping it cordial and acting like adults.

FWIW, Hurts does not look as good as he did last year, just my take, we’ll see how that take plays out in January, but I’ll keep it in here instead of looking for an argument in an Eagles’ thread.

I take your point, and if you think my, what I believe to be, fair criticism of your coach (who @Wingnut seems to agree with me) is trolling, it is what it is. I was just simply disagreeing with the guy who runs the site that the 49ers are gonna be alright, best roster in football, nothing to worry about sorta take, when in reality, as Wingnut fleshes out, the team isn't playing quite the same as last year, or even close to it on defense. I have no problem with 49ers fans, haha, not nearly as much as Cowboys fans, but the fact is we are rivals, its going to be one of the 3 of us in all honesty standing at the end of the year in the NFC, and I like to stay informed on my rivals. I do agree, Hurts is not playing at the same level this year, too many turnovers and teams are playing him differently this year to definitely make sure he doesn't beat them with his legs. I think to a degree, that is true about Purdy as well. But being fair, I do believe Purdy is progressing and if you look at his stats, he is probably having a better year than he did last year. Still a young guy and still defenses don't 100% know exactly what really works against him (aka don't blitz him he'll kill you). I apologize if what I said offended anyone.

What do you predict the 49ers record to be at the end of the regular season?

11-6/12-5. They are a very good team, but they face some really tough games in the next 5 games. Could make or break their season, but the NFC is still kind of weak overall IMO as most teams have some flaws that 49ers/Eagles can exploit. If they get their pass rush going like they did last year, they will be even tougher.

 

[Joe Bryant]

11-6/12-5. They are a very good team, but they face some really tough games in the next 5 games.

Thanks.

Who are your top 5 teams in power rankings?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Hurts and Purdy are having the same issue, defenses are playing them different now that they have tape. Time will tell if they both can adjust and learn to beat the variety of defenses. Purdy's still just a 2nd year player so I wouldn't sweat it too much, I mean Trevor Lawrence had 0 TD's and 2 picks last year in a loss to the 3-13 Texans. Crap games happen with young QB's.

Give some credit to Flores for forcing Purdy a little off his game with a pressure defense. I think Purdy bounces back. Hurts bounced back from the 3 INT game vs the JETS with a dominating game vs MIA. Hurts is part of the reason AJ Brown on pace for almost 2000 yards. Hurts' has multiple really good plays every game, like the scramble to the right and then TD pass to Brown vs Miami. The INT for a TD was a freak play, not really his fault. His game is only slightly lower than in 2022, mainly because of the INTs, and some were not hs fault.

Many people say KC and PHI have better overall talent than SF. They have more up and coming good young players than SF, aside from Purdy, who is not in the conversation yet with Mahomes or Hurts. The Eagles are also built for 2024 with multiple young players under contract. Younger players are less likely to get hurt.

100%. Flores is a great DC.

 

[Terpman22]

11-6/12-5. They are a very good team, but they face some really tough games in the next 5 games.

Thanks.

Who are your top 5 teams in power rankings?

In no order bc they all have warts to some degree aka I don't think there IS an elite team right now

KC
Niners
Eagles
Dolphins
Ravens

 

[Joe Bryant]

11-6/12-5. They are a very good team, but they face some really tough games in the next 5 games.

Thanks.

Who are your top 5 teams in power rankings?

In no order bc they all have warts to some degree aka I don't think there IS an elite team right now

KC
Niners
Eagles
Dolphins
Ravens

Thanks. That's what mean when I said the 49ers are gonna be alright.

 

[thecatch]

Hurts and Purdy are having the same issue, defenses are playing them different now that they have tape. Time will tell if they both can adjust and learn to beat the variety of defenses. Purdy's still just a 2nd year player so I wouldn't sweat it too much, I mean Trevor Lawrence had 0 TD's and 2 picks last year in a loss to the 3-13 Texans. Crap games happen with young QB's.

Give some credit to Flores for forcing Purdy a little off his game with a pressure defense. .
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It’s not quite that simple. Purdy actually did pretty well against their blitzes - “14-of-16 for 183 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT against the blitz for an 88.5 QBR.” Bigger problem was the interior OL allowed a lot of pressure even when rushing four.

 

[Terpman22]

11-6/12-5. They are a very good team, but they face some really tough games in the next 5 games.

Thanks.

Who are your top 5 teams in power rankings?

In no order bc they all have warts to some degree aka I don't think there IS an elite team right now

KC
Niners
Eagles
Dolphins
Ravens

Thanks. That's what mean when I said the 49ers are gonna be alright.

I feel ya there. Just personally don't think that will be enough for the fanbase. From what I can tell its Super Bowl or bust for them and I don't think they achieve that goal, but its still a long season!

 

[fantasycurse42]

Hurts and Purdy are having the same issue, defenses are playing them different now that they have tape. Time will tell if they both can adjust and learn to beat the variety of defenses. Purdy's still just a 2nd year player so I wouldn't sweat it too much, I mean Trevor Lawrence had 0 TD's and 2 picks last year in a loss to the 3-13 Texans. Crap games happen with young QB's.

Give some credit to Flores for forcing Purdy a little off his game with a pressure defense. .
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It’s not quite that simple. Purdy actually did pretty well against their blitzes - “14-of-16 for 183 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT against the blitz for an 88.5 QBR.” Bigger problem was the interior OL allowed a lot of pressure even when rushing four.

The criticism of Purdy has been rolling in, and it’s not a surprise. When you scratch the surface, I find it comical. I’d take him in this offense over roughly 27 other QBs in the NFL. Let’s take a shallow dive:

1) He’s lowest paid QB in the NFL (and he will be next season as well).

2) He was the last pick of the draft. He’s taken his draft day expectations and left them in the ICU.

3) He’s plenty poised under pressure. Against a very stout Cleveland defense in a sloppy game, he had them inside the 25 as time expired to win the game on a FG. This, without Deebo AND CMC. Under the highest blitz percentage ever from the NYG, he absolutely shredded them.

4) In the worst game I’ve seen of him in the NFL during a MNF game (which are always tricky) he had a chance to win it on the last drive. Honestly, I’m not even upset about that last pick. Give me a QB who will take the shots with 30 seconds left versus the guy who will check it down and let the clock expire. He had an off night, it is what it is and it happens to everyone, which brings me to my next point.

5) Nobody is perfect.

6) For a guy coming off a major surgery on his throwing arm, I’m thrilled at what I’m seeing from the kid.

It’s human nature to panic, but as you get older, you learn that panic isn’t a viable strategy. I’m not panicking at all. They’ll have to drop to 5-4 or 5-5 for me to start panicking a little.

 

[fantasycurse42]

When your biggest player concern midway into a season is kicker, I’d think you’re in great shape. Just my .02.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Just had to take a peak also:

KC +$450
SF +$500

So while everyone wants to hammer Purdy and the 49ers after dropping 2 straight, the smartest guys in the room are still on them.

I wouldn’t mind them dropping another 2 in a row tbh (as long as there aren’t key injuries). Then I’d be able to smash that bet with nice odds.

 

[thecatch]

I’m not “panicked” yet but they have two very lose-able games coming up and the third against the Bucs isn’t a cakewalk. Then they have the Seahawks 2x (who will always play SF tougher than their talent suggests) and the Eagles. If they don’t immediately pull their heads out of their rear ends, they could go on a 2-6 skid here.

 

[Wingnut]

I take your point, and if you think my, what I believe to be, fair criticism of your coach (who @Wingnut seems to agree with me)

I've been wanting him to get an OC for a couple of years, but it'll never happen.

If he doesn't win a SB, I'll always wonder what would've happened if.....

 

[Terpman22]

I take your point, and if you think my, what I believe to be, fair criticism of your coach (who @Wingnut seems to agree with me)

I've been wanting him to get an OC for a couple of years, but it'll never happen.

If he doesn't win a SB, I'll always wonder what would've happened if.....

Thanks man! I personally believe the CEO Head Coach is the best way to go. No GM stuff, no playcalling stuff. Just overall being the Head guy running the show making sure everything is good.

 

[Wingnut]

I read (someones source) that the 49ers are adjusting their meeting schedule this week to allow for Shanahan to be in the majority of defensive meetings.

If true, is this Kyle tightening Wilks' leash?

 

[Wingnut]

Oh boy

Brock Purdy is in concussion protocol.

Purdy started feeling concussion symptoms on the plane ride home from Minnesota. He will not practice today. It is unclear when Purdy suffered the concussion. He does have time to clear protocol before Sundays game.

https://twitter.com/LombardiHimself/status/1717266095114273025?t=rqSJbcUm8y-IbRQ6OVe2Fw&s=19

 

[Wingnut]

“He knows that he messed up on that call,” Kyle Shanahan said of defensive coordinator Steve Wilks on the 49ers’ blitz before the half.

“I have no problem with a Zero blitz, but I do when there’s 16 seconds left.”

https://twitter.com/LombardiHimself/status/1717267338075193805?t=XGSfcvJ4syDf2sV9NioWww&s=19

 

[Wingnut]

Schefter:

Brock Purdy is now unlikely to play Sunday vs. the Bengals based on this trend: No NFL player placed into concussion protocol this season has played the same week. The last player to be in concussion protocol who played the same week was 2022, when Kenny Pickett had a concussion in week 6 and was cleared to play in week 7.

Update:

Schefter:

With Brock Purdy in concussion protocol, 49ers’ QB Sam Darnold now is in line to start Sunday’s game vs. the Bengals.

 

[Wingnut]

It's not a 49er season until a backup QB has to start a game.

 

[Wingnut]

Shanahan does hope that Trent Williams (ankle) can return to practice on Thursday, which would be big for the 49ers since Cincinnati’s Trey Hendrickson (8 sacks) lines up exclusively vs LT

https://twitter.com/LombardiHimself/status/1717269763242733681?t=AuywjV_pJOxITa-8958d8w&s=19

 

[SoBeDad]

Brock Purdy is now unlikely to play Sunday vs. the Bengals based on this trend: No NFL player placed into concussion protocol this season has played the same week. The last player to be in concussion protocol who played the same week was 2022, when Kenny Pickett had a concussion in week 6 and was cleared to play in week 7.

There could be a first:

>>Meanwhile, safety Jevon Holland remains in concussion protocol but is progressing and has had “positive” results in “each stage,” McDaniel said.<<

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article276668296.html#storylink=cpy

 

[Wingnut]

Here’s the moment Brock Purdy took a blow to the head.

Video

Another angle


Noteworthy: both INTs came after this play. The 1st INT was the next throw after.

 

[Wingnut]

the Bengals are giving up 5.0 yards per carry and 143 rushing yards per game, so if Sam Darnold has to play maybe the game plan can involve a lot handoffs

The main concern with Darnold being the 55 INTs and 13 lost fumbles in 56 games prior to joining the 49ers

https://twitter.com/AlSacco49/status/1717271967244460305?t=J7tN8hP9mEopp7CDuTOgoQ&s=19

 

[Terpman22]

Here’s the moment Brock Purdy took a blow to the head.

Video

Another angle


Noteworthy: both INTs came after this play. The 1st INT was the next throw after.

So it was on a regular QB Sneak and not a Tush Push play. Interesting...

 

[Wingnut]

Should Sam Darnold start the game and play over 25% of the snaps in a 49ers' win over the Bengals, he'd earn a $300,000 incentive.

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1717269583105536195?t=zALAZ79mtWXVRbjNYaQ9cA&s=19

 

[Wingnut]

CMC seems full go this week

49ers not practicing Wed

Brock Purdy (concussion protocol)
Deebo Samuel
Trent Williams
Dre Greenlaw (vet)

 

[Joe Bryant]

We'll get a chance to see why I think Kyle Shanahan is the best coach in the league not named Andy Reid.

 

[rockaction]

Kyle Shanahan is the best coach in the league not named Andy Reid.

From his abysmal clock management during the Patriots Super Bowl when he was OC of the Falcons, to his abysmal game calling in SF during the end of their loss to Kansas City, and then on down to trying to block Philly's most explosive defensive lineman with backup TEs on multiple plays, he's made some awfully questionable decisions over the years to where one might argue with that statement.

Maybe I just don't like Shanahans, but second-best to Andy Reid? Over surefire HoF'er Bill Belichick and potentially HoF'er John Harbaugh with their multiple Super Bowl rings and others that didn't have teams blow it at precisely the wrong moment? Let's not forget Super Bowl champ Sean McVay with his two appearances and one win before the age of forty?

Bold.

 

[Wingnut]

Sit Purdy, start Sam, hope for a win, and go into the bye & get healthy, reset/refocus, and start a 2nd half run in Jacksonville week 10 with a healthy Purdy, Deebo, & Trent.

 

[Wingnut]

At least he acknowledges it, but that doesn't fix it. Big gut-check game this week.

DE Nick Bosa acknowledged today that his holdout during training camp has had at least some effect on his performance so far this season, particularly in games against PIT and CLE:

"I think a little bit," Bosa said. "I think I’m trying to work on stuff on the run this year that I wasn’t able to do in camp. So, those games that I mentioned, the two, I think I was thinking too much because I was trying to add something to my rush plan which is not what I want to be doing during season. I want to be locked in on what I do best and just doing it throughout the whole year. But there’s no excuse at this point for that."

https://twitter.com/nwagoner/status/1717316737757270212?t=AsKVIyD8FOBCs9AwRuGdhA&s=19

 

[Polish Hammer]

Is there any reasonable chance that Darnold could play so well this week he holds onto the starting QB gig? Or is the job still Purdy's as soon as he is ready?

 

[Wingnut]

Is there any reasonable chance that Darnold could play so well this week he holds onto the starting QB gig? Or is the job still Purdy's as soon as he is ready?

Zero chance.

 

[FarFromHome]

Is there any reasonable chance that Darnold could play so well this week he holds onto the starting QB gig? Or is the job still Purdy's as soon as he is ready?

Zero. Even after his injury it sure looked like they were convinced he was guy.

 

[thecatch]

These OL truthers that think TEs are never called on to block DEs always crack me up.

 

[JetMaxx]

Is there any reasonable chance that Darnold could play so well this week he holds onto the starting QB gig? Or is the job still Purdy's as soon as he is ready?

50/50

 

[rockaction]

These OL truthers that think TEs are never called on to block DEs always crack me up.

Yes, Tyler Kroft, who'd been beaten like a drum once before, was the right guy to call on in that situation!

I'm an OL Truther. That's a laugh.

Here, from the a KNBR write-up. Coaching decisions in the NFC Championship Game:

"Two flash points, early in the game, revolved around key coaching decisions.

Philadelphia scored on its opening drive, with a Devonta Smith one-handed catch on fourth and 3 setting up a Miles Sanders touchdown run.

Smith, after the “catch,” immediately motioned to the Eagles to get a play off quick. They did, and only after a commercial break did the broadcast show an angle definitively showing the ball was bobbled and appeared to hit the ground.

Kyle Shanahan and his staff did not challenge the play, and the NFL’s officiating review crew in New York did not amend the call in real time, with Mike Pereira — on the broadcast — saying they didn’t have the angle later shown on TV.

That made it 7-0 Eagles.

The 49ers’ ensuing drive is what ended the game and it begged a question of Shanahan, who opted to block the Eagles’ best pass rusher in Reddick, with Tyler Kroft. Kroft had been benched the game prior for Ross Dwelley.

Reddick strip-sacked Purdy, but it was initially called an incomplete pass. Nick Sirianni challenged, gaining the ball back for the Eagles."

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Oh boy

Brock Purdy is in concussion protocol.

Purdy started feeling concussion symptoms on the plane ride home from Minnesota. He will not practice today. It is unclear when Purdy suffered the concussion. He does have time to clear protocol before Sundays game.

https://twitter.com/LombardiHimself/status/1717266095114273025?t=rqSJbcUm8y-IbRQ6OVe2Fw&s=19

I saw this blurb across the screen earlier but have not had a chance to stop by and chime in.
Sorry to hear about Purdy, IMHO it would put SF in real jeopardy Sunday Night
I'm sure Shanny is confident he can win a game with Darnold but I have my doubts, that guy is typically terrible.
I know Cinci doesn't look like themselves but it's Joe Burrow and I think that alone would tip the scales more towards the Bengals.

-Does Purdy being on a 7th Rd Rookie deal make the Niners pause slightly more or take extra precautions even if they only get 14-15 starts out of him?
It shouldn't matter but somehow there is a public view or social media view on this that makes. some people feel more compassion for Purdy since he isn't making the big bucks yet.
Was curious how you feel

 

[drummer]

Oh boy

Brock Purdy is in concussion protocol.

Purdy started feeling concussion symptoms on the plane ride home from Minnesota. He will not practice today. It is unclear when Purdy suffered the concussion. He does have time to clear protocol before Sundays game.

https://twitter.com/LombardiHimself/status/1717266095114273025?t=rqSJbcUm8y-IbRQ6OVe2Fw&s=19

-Does Purdy being on a 7th Rd Rookie deal make the Niners pause slightly more or take extra precautions even if they only get 14-15 starts out of him?

I think Kyle Shanahan doesn't place much value on the QB position, so why invest in it, unless it's Kirk Cousins.

 

[need2know]

We'll get a chance to see why I think Kyle Shanahan is the best coach in the league not named Andy Reid.

Can save you some time. He's not

 

[SoBeDad]

Is there any reasonable chance that Darnold could play so well this week he holds onto the starting QB gig? Or is the job still Purdy's as soon as he is ready?

No. But Darnold played ok last year aside from his last game vs a tough NO defense. In those games, CAR averaged about 26 points. He's auditioning for a backup role in 2024.

 

[Wingnut]

We'll get a chance to see why I think Kyle Shanahan is the best coach in the league not named Andy Reid.

Can save you some time. He's not

So many Eagles fans worried about whats going on in the 49ers thread and cant stand when something is said they don't like.

 

[Terpman22]

We'll get a chance to see why I think Kyle Shanahan is the best coach in the league not named Andy Reid.

Can save you some time. He's not

So many Eagles fans worried about whats going on in the 49ers thread and cant stand when something is said they don't like.

Pretty sure a few people, including Jets fans made compelling arguments about the fact on why Shanahan probably isn't the 2nd best coach in the league, but that's all good too. I'm not on board with the statement either, not sure if Joe is a Niners fan or not, but sure seems like it with the statements he makes about his team.

Do YOU believe Shanahan is the 2nd best HC in the entire NFL, behind Andy Reid??

 

[Wingnut]

We'll get a chance to see why I think Kyle Shanahan is the best coach in the league not named Andy Reid.

Can save you some time. He's not

So many Eagles fans worried about whats going on in the 49ers thread and cant stand when something is said they don't like.

Pretty sure a few people, including Jets fans made compelling arguments about the fact on why Shanahan probably isn't the 2nd best coach in the league, but that's all good too. I'm not on board with the statement either, not sure if Joe is a Niners fan or not, but sure seems like it with the statements he makes about his team.

Do YOU believe Shanahan is the 2nd best HC in the entire NFL, behind Andy Reid??

This is a 49er thread. Sorry if you don't agree with what goes on here.

My post was about a couple of Egales fans in here that think we want to discuss the Eagles or hear their opinion about the 49ers. I scroll past 99% of Eagle fan posts in here. If I wanna talk Eagles, I'll go into the Eagle thread. And heaven forbid a fan of any team posts anything remotely negative about the Eagles in that thread and they get jumped on by 10 Eagles fans.

You're not one of the ones who thread poop in here, you actually talk football and are level headed for the most part.

I don't care about anyone's coaches rankings, it's all opinions. But coming in here or any thread just to troll (again, not you) is so juvenile.

Like @Joe Bryant said, the opinion that the 49ers and/or Shanahan is elite isn't exactly a hot take. It's also not worth arguing about.

 

[Terpman22]

We'll get a chance to see why I think Kyle Shanahan is the best coach in the league not named Andy Reid.

Can save you some time. He's not

So many Eagles fans worried about whats going on in the 49ers thread and cant stand when something is said they don't like.

Pretty sure a few people, including Jets fans made compelling arguments about the fact on why Shanahan probably isn't the 2nd best coach in the league, but that's all good too. I'm not on board with the statement either, not sure if Joe is a Niners fan or not, but sure seems like it with the statements he makes about his team.

Do YOU believe Shanahan is the 2nd best HC in the entire NFL, behind Andy Reid??

This is a 49er thread. Sorry if you don't agree with what goes on here.

My post was about a couple of Egales fans in here that think we want to discuss the Eagles or hear their opinion about the 49ers. I scroll past 99% of Eagle fan posts in here. If I wanna talk Eagles, I'll go into the Eagle thread. And heaven forbid a fan of any team posts anything remotely negative about the Eagles in that thread and they get jumped on by 10 Eagles fans. You're not one of them, you actually talk football and are level headed for the most part.

I don't care about anyone's coaches rankings, it's all opinions. But coming in here or any thread just to troll (again, not you) is so juvenile.

Like @Joe Bryant said, the opinion that the 49ers and/or Shanahan is elite isn't exactly a hot take. It's also not worth arguing about.

Fair enough! Good luck this weekend man! I like to keep it about football most times, so I respect that.

Thoughts on what you've seen/heard from Sam Darnold so far this year, think he is up to the task to performing adequately, getting the ball out quickly to playmakers, etc?

Cincy kinda sucks at run defense so thinking they might just go run heavy here, the Shanahan bread and butter.

 

[Football Jones]

I’m not a 9ers homer, but I believe there’s definitely more than a zero chance Darnold can take the job sometime this season. I think Purdy gets the call when he’s healthy pretty much regardless of what Darnold does this week, but it’s not like Purdy is a lock to be their starter the next 10 years.

Darnold has the raw tool advantage, for one. Guys like Purdy really have to excel in areas away from arm talent. Gotta give him credit, but there was a reason he lasted until the last pick in the draft.

Bottom line is I’m not sold on Purdy being their long-term starter. Gotta see what happens when DCs get more film on him & see if they can maximize his lack of high-end arm talent & minimize some of his other traits.