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Scott Walker WI governor vs the Packers & teachers (2 Viewers)
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Mr.Pack
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Woman charged with making death threats against Senators
Funny how they don't tell you she's a TEACHERAll we need is cr8f, jonnymac, et,al now to defend her
GrandpaRox
Footballguy
Unions and teachers rock. They should get everything they deserve for being such good Americans and for bringing us together. Three cheers for unions and teachers and showing us what is important to them and especially for the children. 
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
Unions and teachers rock. They should get everything they deserve for being such good Americans and for bringing us together. Three cheers for unions and teachers and showing us what is important to them and especially for the children.
snogger
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Nice to see such an unbiased opinion. 
Ilov80s
Footballguy
There are quite a few guilty parties here.Unions and teachers rock. They should get everything they deserve for being such good Americans and for bringing us together. Three cheers for unions and teachers and showing us what is important to them and especially for the children.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
No such thing as an unbiased opinion.
snogger
Footballguy
For the record..
If they file today, it could be up to 31 days before it is certified.
From what I can tell this could be separate from the Petition.
next up.. the "first" election will be the first Tuesday 6 weeks from that date.
We are around 4 Months from today before the first election.
But wait.. First they need to find a candidate to run against him. They have no one yet that I have read about.
Then, knowing how politics work today, there will be more than one Democrat challenger, so the first vote around August 2nd will be a "Primary" to decide which opponent goes against the Republican.
The Recall election will happen the first Tuesday, 4 weeks after the "Primary" election.
Just think of the resources, time and
that will be spent by both sides for something that may not even change a thing.
And all of this to recall a person, who didn't do anything unlawful or unethical.
His crime?? He voted on a bill.
If they file today, it could be up to 31 days before it is certified.
Then the "recalled" person has 7 days to file a Petition:
If they file a petition, there are 31 days to decide the outcome of that petition.Oh, wait, the incumbent also has 10 days to challenge the signatures.
From what I can tell this could be separate from the Petition.
So you could have two court sessions going.. One for the contesting of the Recall and one for the Signature status.So say 5 weeks. So we are out to 9 weeks.
next up.. the "first" election will be the first Tuesday 6 weeks from that date.
We are around 4 Months from today before the first election.
But wait.. First they need to find a candidate to run against him. They have no one yet that I have read about.
Then, knowing how politics work today, there will be more than one Democrat challenger, so the first vote around August 2nd will be a "Primary" to decide which opponent goes against the Republican.
The Recall election will happen the first Tuesday, 4 weeks after the "Primary" election.
That is around Labor day, so guessing that it will get pushed out one more week.So, by my rough calculation, the Recall election, if it happens would be around September 13th.
Just think of the resources, time and
that will be spent by both sides for something that may not even change a thing.And all of this to recall a person, who didn't do anything unlawful or unethical.
His crime?? He voted on a bill.
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GrandpaRox
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Not really but America is watching and deep ingrained opinions are being formed. Questions are being answered, people and organizations are being shown for what they really are.There are quite a few guilty parties here.Unions and teachers rock. They should get everything they deserve for being such good Americans and for bringing us together. Three cheers for unions and teachers and showing us what is important to them and especially for the children.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
The administrators who have signed the contracts over the years are innocent? The school boards that have supported the contracts and spending are guiltless? The voters who in general have paid no attention to their school board for years don't share any blame? The governor, his supporters, and the Democrats have all been wonderfully civil and well behaved people here? If you think there is a problem with the state of Wisconsin related to funding of education, there are quite a few parties (over generations) who share guilt.There are no deep ingrained opinions being formed right now. It is just reinforcing already deeply ingrained opinions. Partisans will see this issue as proof they were right all a long. Republicans will claim that unions are just a Democratic cash cow who'se only concern is milking the public. The Democrats will see this as a classic case of Republicans favoring big business over the public good and a direct attack on the rights of workers. As someone who is independent, I see it as proof both sides are pompous morons with only their self-interest in mind (ofcourse I have thought that for a long time).Not really but America is watching and deep ingrained opinions are being formed. Questions are being answered, people and organizations are being shown for what they really are.There are quite a few guilty parties here.Unions and teachers rock. They should get everything they deserve for being such good Americans and for bringing us together. Three cheers for unions and teachers and showing us what is important to them and especially for the children.
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Sarnoff
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It's important to set the precedent that 1) the bill was passed with proper notification, to prevent the minority from fleeing the state next time there's an issue the two parties disagree on, and 2) that the judges can't preemptively halt laws from taking effect, to prevent one activist judge from over-ruling the state legislature at whim.
Nah, let's just blame those in the teaching profession... that's easier...The administrators who have signed the contracts over the years are innocent? The school boards that have supported the contracts and spending are guiltless? The voters who in general have paid no attention to their school board for years don't share any blame? The governor, his supporters, and the Democrats have all been wonderfully civil and well behaved people here? If you think there is a problem with the state of Wisconsin related to funding of education, there are quite a few parties (over generations) who share guilt.There are no deep ingrained opinions being formed right now. It is just reinforcing already deeply ingrained opinions. Partisans will see this issue as proof they were right all a long. Republicans will claim that unions are just a Democratic cash cow who'se only concern is milking the public. The Democrats will see this as a classic case of Republicans favoring big business over the public good and a direct attack on the rights of workers. As someone who is independent, I see it as proof both sides are pompous morons with only their self-interest in mind (ofcourse I have thought that for a long time).Not really but America is watching and deep ingrained opinions are being formed. Questions are being answered, people and organizations are being shown for what they really are.There are quite a few guilty parties here.Unions and teachers rock. They should get everything they deserve for being such good Americans and for bringing us together. Three cheers for unions and teachers and showing us what is important to them and especially for the children.
Mr.Pack
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Maybe if the cowards hadn't ran this wouldn't be happening?Keep hitting and running cr8f, you obviously are just repeating what you hear as you have no clue what-so-ever.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I wonder why the Dems keep choosing to spend money that will only go to lawyers. The bill passed, deal with it. And, I'm a certified teacher. Plan your own retirements.
CletiusMaximus
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Regarding #1, I agree the reason they don't want to submit this for a re-vote could be that they want the notice provisions in the open meetings laws and rules clarified, but I don't see how that can affect the tactic of leaving the state to prevent a quorum on fiscal legislation. I think there would have to be a change to the quorum rules to prevent that tactic from working in the future. At least the most active current lawsuit (Ozanne v. Fitzgerald) is just about the interpretation of the open meetings law and whether proper notice (less than 2 hours) was given in this case. But I think the reason the GOP is not re-submitting the legislation for another vote is probably a bit more pragmatic than this. The main thing a re-vote would accomplish is allowing the immediate implementation of the new collective bargaining measures (meaning, they could moot the injunction), but they're probably facing a legal battle either way, and I expect the pressure that a re-vote would put on some of their members, the protests, etc. that would come with a re-vote is something they'd rather avoid. I also think the election might play a factor, but in my opinion the effect of Prosser v Kloppenberg is being overstated by many.
snogger
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http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.html
Still can't believe one judge can control a law BEFORE it is even Law!
This is utter
Make your bleeping ruling and let the process continue.
As the Republican stated in the article. What use is it passing another bill. They will just issue some other complaint to this judge who will put yet another restraining order on it until she feels it is time to judge on it.
http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.htmlAt least two months?? Are you kidding me???
Still can't believe one judge can control a law BEFORE it is even Law!
This is utter
Make your bleeping ruling and let the process continue.
As the Republican stated in the article. What use is it passing another bill. They will just issue some other complaint to this judge who will put yet another restraining order on it until she feels it is time to judge on it.
cr8f
Footballguy
Seriously? She's hearing testimony.Complaints aren't the problem-passing a bill illegally is the problem. Judges don't block bills over complaints.Just pass the law again but this time do it obeying the rules. Or pass a different one-how much tax payer money is this costing?'snogger said:http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.html
http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.htmlAt least two months?? Are you kidding me???
Still can't believe one judge can control a law BEFORE it is even Law!
This is utter
Make your bleeping ruling and let the process continue.
As the Republican stated in the article. What use is it passing another bill. They will just issue some other complaint to this judge who will put yet another restraining order on it until she feels it is time to judge on it.
There are several lawsuits-one saying it was not non-fiscal as it claimed because deducting money from paychecks seems fiscal. Without the democrats only a non fiscal bill could pass.
Then there was this These guys are the rogue government.
Wisconsin Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald was warned by legal representatives of three separate state agencies that ordering state troopers to forcibly return senate democrats to Madison would place his actions in a zone "outside the law", according to the Wisconsin State Journal. The Journal has obtained memos and e-mail from Fitzgerald's office and the office of Sergeant-at-Arms Ted Blazel through a public records request.
Fitzgerald now admits in an interview with the Journal that his efforts to compel the Democrats back to the State House were "a mess" and that when he tried to give a statewide order for law enforcement to arrest the missing lawmakers, “There was no cop in the state that would enforce it.”
It was Fitzgerald who issued the controversial "call of the House" on February 17th, when Democratic senators fled the state to avoid a vote on Governor Scott Walker's bill curbing the collective bargaining rights of public employees. Three days after the walkout, Fitzgerald ordered state troopers to the residence of Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller, who wasn't at home. This prompted a dialogue between Fitzgerald's office and Wisconsin's Legislative Council and Legislative Reference Bureau concerning the legality of the Fitzgerald's actions.
The Majority Leader's office, however, sent troopers to state senators homes again four days later. It was when Fitzgerald attempted to use statewide police warrant verification network to issue an official "Order to Detain" the Democrats that the Wisconsin Department of Justice urged the Majority Leader and the Senate to drop the order rather than force law enforcement personnel to carry out acts that would ultimately prove to be illegal.
The State Journal: “We would strongly recommend that you attempt to get the Senate’s Order to Detain out of the system, i.e. to the extent possible indicate publicly that it has been withdrawn so that law enforcement do not rely upon it and attempt to enforce it, thereby creating unnecessary liability exposure to them and the state,” Kevin Potter, an assistant attorney general, said in a March 4 email.
Fitzgerald refused to back down. It was only when the Senate stripped out certain provisions of the bill allowing the Republicans to pass it with or without Democratic participation that the Majority Leader's office stopped trying to pressure state law enforcement to compel the Democrats back to Madison.
Fitzgerald said he continued to try to find ways to bring the missing lawmakers back to the capitol even when he knew that it was a futile endeavor. Nonetheless, he states that he has no regrets about his handling of the situation.
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snogger
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Two Months to listen to testimony??Seriously? She's hearing testimony.Complaints aren't the problem-passing a bill illegally is the problem. Judges don't block bills over complaints.'snogger said:http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.html
http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.htmlAt least two months?? Are you kidding me???
Still can't believe one judge can control a law BEFORE it is even Law!
This is utter
Make your bleeping ruling and let the process continue.
As the Republican stated in the article. What use is it passing another bill. They will just issue some other complaint to this judge who will put yet another restraining order on it until she feels it is time to judge on it.
Not to mention, she is blocking a bill from becoming law.If a law hasn't been created, the judicial system should not be involved until there is an actual law to rule on.
The arguments have been made from both sides and she has already made up her mind how she is going to decide this one. It doesn't take a psychic to see that.
So make your judgement and let the Republicans re-vote the law, or appeal it to the higher courts.
We all know the reason she delayed it for at least two months.. and it has nothing to do with "listening to testimony".
It is to allow the Unions to get every last drop of blood out of the government before this legal law takes place.
If you are Soooooooo concerned as you say you are, maybe you should start asking the unions how they expect the Milwaukee District to increase their city budget by 4 Times the current budget by 2016 to pay the benefits that will be given out at that time.
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cr8f
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There are several suits pending. Here Politicus has many of the legal matters listed.
Cullen being locked out of the building and having to climb in through a window is pretty damning.
Access was denied to the Capitol that night, with only one of eight doors being open which caused a bottleneck and delayed entrance so as to miss the meeting. A Democratic lawmaker was turned away from the doors as well and had to climb in through a bathroom window.
Access was further denied into the Senate gallery; people were turned away — even though there are seats for 85 people, only 24 were let in. A guard standing outside the door denied access to everyone after the first 24 people. The doors to the Senate gallery were then locked for the next 40 minutes after a senate staffer claimed there was a security breach. These folks were smart enough to start a petition of people who were there and were denied access. There are just under 3,000 names on that petition. This is a violation of open meeting laws on multiple levels, including access and locked doors. Locked doors to the Legislature when the lawmakers are in session violate the state constitution. Lastly, a text message was sent to a person in the Senate gallery from someone attempting to gain entrance who was told by the guard that the gallery was “full.”
Cullen being locked out of the building and having to climb in through a window is pretty damning.
Access was denied to the Capitol that night, with only one of eight doors being open which caused a bottleneck and delayed entrance so as to miss the meeting. A Democratic lawmaker was turned away from the doors as well and had to climb in through a bathroom window.
Access was further denied into the Senate gallery; people were turned away — even though there are seats for 85 people, only 24 were let in. A guard standing outside the door denied access to everyone after the first 24 people. The doors to the Senate gallery were then locked for the next 40 minutes after a senate staffer claimed there was a security breach. These folks were smart enough to start a petition of people who were there and were denied access. There are just under 3,000 names on that petition. This is a violation of open meeting laws on multiple levels, including access and locked doors. Locked doors to the Legislature when the lawmakers are in session violate the state constitution. Lastly, a text message was sent to a person in the Senate gallery from someone attempting to gain entrance who was told by the guard that the gallery was “full.”
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
snogger, I wouldn't waste my breath on this clown. cr8f has no clue what the hell is going on, no clue on the laws, nothing but copying and pasting from his liberal websites.He's a clown. And definitely not worth trying to engage as he just ignores the questions anyway...... Because he has NO CLUE.Two Months to listen to testimony??Seriously? She's hearing testimony.Complaints aren't the problem-passing a bill illegally is the problem. Judges don't block bills over complaints.'snogger said:http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.html
http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.htmlAt least two months?? Are you kidding me???
Still can't believe one judge can control a law BEFORE it is even Law!
This is utter
Make your bleeping ruling and let the process continue.
As the Republican stated in the article. What use is it passing another bill. They will just issue some other complaint to this judge who will put yet another restraining order on it until she feels it is time to judge on it.
If a law hasn't been created, the judicial system should not be involved until there is an actual law to rule on.
The arguments have been made from both sides and she has already made up her mind how she is going to decide this one. It doesn't take a psychic to see that.
So make your judgement and let the Republicans re-vote the law, or appeal it to the higher courts.
We all know the reason she delayed it for at least two months.. and it has nothing to do with "listening to testimony".
It is to allow the Unions to get every last drop of blood out of the government before this legal law takes place.
If you are Soooooooo concerned as you say you are, maybe you should start asking the unions how they expect the Milwaukee District to increase their city budget by 4 Times the current budget by 2016 to pay the benefits that will be given out at that time.
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cr8f
Footballguy
Yesterday someone posted a fake flyer saying they are the police.
Nice. These are some of the nicest protesters I've seen anywhere, just let them protest. They listen to the police and are pretty respectful.
Nice. These are some of the nicest protesters I've seen anywhere, just let them protest. They listen to the police and are pretty respectful.
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
ZOMG!!! a text message!It is a joke. Access was denied for a security breach. Legislators have the right to enforce security measures and not let thugs stall the process.
Perhaps people shouldn't have been breaking in through windows? Do you really think that these legislators just decided they wanted this done behind closed doors because they wanted a little peace and quiet? If that was the case why let people in at all?
Otherwise thugs could simply stall the legislative process at any moment. Kind of like how democrats stalled it by fleeing the state. Anybody that supports either action is not looking at the big picture.
cr8f
Footballguy
There are parts of that article that are founded in facts and parts that aren't, but all you focus on is that? That says a lot.
All I mentioned was Cullen refused access and having to climb through a window to gain access.
Looks like the slams between posters here hasn't changed much.
This tuesday the state will have a chance to vote on how they feel about what's been going on in the state for the first time since this began. It's only a supreme court election for most of the state but the outcome may say a lot if Prosser or Kloppenburg win by huge margins.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
So you copied and pasted an article to support your side that you admit that parts of aren't supported in fact?
Ookie Pringle
Footballguy
He does it all the time. The beauty of it all is he is considered a joke and has no clue about that. It's funny, sad and pathetic but it is funny watching someone continue to make a complete fool of himself.
Ookie Pringle
Footballguy
So you expect people to ignore things you cut and paste that aren't factually based when you try to make points supporting your side? That says a lot.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
If Kloppenburg wins then that is a tragedy for the state of Wisconsin. Vote Prosser all the way as should anyone who understands the law and how laws are made and such. What that judge is doing is flat out wrong and should be ashamed of herself for doing what she is doing.And, just to let others know, I am a certified Wisconsin teacher, have voted Democrat in each election I have been able to other than this past governor election in which I voted for Walker. What the dems and teachers are doing in this state is pathetic.
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
cr8f
Footballguy
Walker says he won't interpret the results tomorrow as indication of support or rejecting of his policies. He sounds scared
MILWAUKEE — Pro-labor organizations and one of the country’s largest tea party groups are pouring money into Tuesday’s Wisconsin Supreme Court election in an effort to turn the normally sleepy race into a referendum on the national fight over labor rights.
The attention from conservative and liberal groups has energized voters and set the election on pace to be the most expensive high court race in Wisconsin’s history. Sarah Palin even weighed in via Twitter on Friday, throwing her support behind the incumbent conservative justice.
The candidates, Justice David Prosser and Assistant Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg, say the race is about their qualifications. But the unusual level of interest has put the union issue front and center and shows passions remain inflamed over Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s collective bargaining law, which sparked weeks of angry protests at the Capitol and made Wisconsin the center of the ideological debate over union rights.
Four conservative groups, including the Tea Party Express, have combined to spend $1.2 million so far on pro-Prosser ads, according to a media-tracking group. A liberal heavyweight had spent $993,000, as of Thursday. And spending on both sides was expected to hit a furious pace in the campaign’s final days.
The seven-member court is officially nonpartisan. But Prosser is seen as part of a conservative four-justice majority, while a win by Kloppenburg would tilt the court’s ideological balance to the left.
That could make a difference if a current challenge to Walker’s law eventually makes its way to the state Supreme Court. The law is on hold after a judge ruled Friday that a temporary restraining order blocking it would remain in place for at least two months.
Regardless of who wins, the governor says he won’t interpret the results as an endorsement or indictment of his policies. Walker said voters who have a position on certain legislation should vote for lawmakers who support their views and use the Supreme Court race to choose who’s more qualified to interpret the Constitution.
MILWAUKEE — Pro-labor organizations and one of the country’s largest tea party groups are pouring money into Tuesday’s Wisconsin Supreme Court election in an effort to turn the normally sleepy race into a referendum on the national fight over labor rights.
The attention from conservative and liberal groups has energized voters and set the election on pace to be the most expensive high court race in Wisconsin’s history. Sarah Palin even weighed in via Twitter on Friday, throwing her support behind the incumbent conservative justice.
The candidates, Justice David Prosser and Assistant Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg, say the race is about their qualifications. But the unusual level of interest has put the union issue front and center and shows passions remain inflamed over Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s collective bargaining law, which sparked weeks of angry protests at the Capitol and made Wisconsin the center of the ideological debate over union rights.
Four conservative groups, including the Tea Party Express, have combined to spend $1.2 million so far on pro-Prosser ads, according to a media-tracking group. A liberal heavyweight had spent $993,000, as of Thursday. And spending on both sides was expected to hit a furious pace in the campaign’s final days.
The seven-member court is officially nonpartisan. But Prosser is seen as part of a conservative four-justice majority, while a win by Kloppenburg would tilt the court’s ideological balance to the left.
That could make a difference if a current challenge to Walker’s law eventually makes its way to the state Supreme Court. The law is on hold after a judge ruled Friday that a temporary restraining order blocking it would remain in place for at least two months.
Regardless of who wins, the governor says he won’t interpret the results as an endorsement or indictment of his policies. Walker said voters who have a position on certain legislation should vote for lawmakers who support their views and use the Supreme Court race to choose who’s more qualified to interpret the Constitution.
cr8f
Footballguy
Not at all. I'll debate with people until they sling mud and turn this into a personal attack. This is about Wisconsin and maybe the future of the country is these recalls work.He's a joke.
Looks like another possible crony gets a huge raise
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Your idea of "debate" must be a new one because I have read very little of your thoughts, ideas and so forth in this thread. I have, however, read many of your posts illustrating what you might think, what your ideas might be. But, personal thoughts, not much.Not at all. I'll debate with people until they sling mud and turn this into a personal attack. This is about Wisconsin and maybe the future of the country is these recalls work.
Looks like another possible crony gets a huge raise
sho nuff
Footballguy
Debate with people?You have been nothing but a cut and paste robot in these threads.Not at all. I'll debate with people until they sling mud and turn this into a personal attack. This is about Wisconsin and maybe the future of the country is these recalls work.
Looks like another possible crony gets a huge raise
You don't answer questions asked of you and continue to spew nothing but the opposition talking points.
The recalls...if they work...are shameful. To recall someone for voting in a way you don't like is ridiculous.
That you support it and senators who instead of doing their job, flee the state to stall the process that is in place in this country is even more ridiculous.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
This isn't a blatant political favor to his benefactors, its all about fixing the economy in Wisconsin and creating jobs.Keep repeating that, over and over.
cr8f
Footballguy
Our lives begin to end the day we're silent about things that matter -MLK-
A song in honor(I hope) of such important men taken from us Dion http://youtu.be/MdTOHVJWDz8
A song in honor(I hope) of such important men taken from us Dion http://youtu.be/MdTOHVJWDz8
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Awesome debate here.Where is the outcry in other states about collective bargaining? Where is the outcry from federal employees? Are you going to answer these or simply cut/paste someone's reply?
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Shtaym Syek
Footballguy
http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.html
http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.htmlAt least two months?? Are you kidding me???
Still can't believe one judge can control a law BEFORE it is even Law!
This is utter
Make your bleeping ruling and let the process continue.
As the Republican stated in the article. What use is it passing another bill. They will just issue some other complaint to this judge who will put yet another restraining order on it until she feels it is time to judge on it.
snogger
Footballguy
http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.html
http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.htmlAt least two months?? Are you kidding me???
Still can't believe one judge can control a law BEFORE it is even Law!
This is utter
Make your bleeping ruling and let the process continue.
As the Republican stated in the article. What use is it passing another bill. They will just issue some other complaint to this judge who will put yet another restraining order on it until she feels it is time to judge on it.
What is so funny?? that she is ruling on something that isn't even law yet and therefore shouldn't be judging on.Or that she seems to think she needs at least two months to decide?Just trying to get a handle on the
TIA
snogger
Footballguy
For some reason Wisconsin is so Special, our public employees deserve better rights than most other States and even better than Federal Public Employees.Dang, I knew I lived in a GREAT State, but I had no idea our public employees were more important than those that work at the White House!
Shtaym Syek
Footballguy
I think it's funny that you are an expert on the nuances of judicial law, given your historical nature of extremely partisan knee-jerk reactions.http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.html
http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.htmlAt least two months?? Are you kidding me???
Still can't believe one judge can control a law BEFORE it is even Law!
This is utter
Make your bleeping ruling and let the process continue.
As the Republican stated in the article. What use is it passing another bill. They will just issue some other complaint to this judge who will put yet another restraining order on it until she feels it is time to judge on it.
Just trying to get a handle on the
TIA
snogger
Footballguy
OK, thanks for the input.I think it's funny that you are an expert on the nuances of judicial law, given your historical nature of extremely partisan knee-jerk reactions.http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.html
http://www.startribune.com/local/119051754.htmlAt least two months?? Are you kidding me???
Still can't believe one judge can control a law BEFORE it is even Law!
This is utter
Make your bleeping ruling and let the process continue.
As the Republican stated in the article. What use is it passing another bill. They will just issue some other complaint to this judge who will put yet another restraining order on it until she feels it is time to judge on it.
Just trying to get a handle on the
TIA
Just having a REAL hard time understanding why it takes two months to decide something that you've already heard arguments on for the past month. It's not like anything "new" will come out in the next two months.It is 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999% probability she will strike it down, so why delay it??
Make your ruling and let the process continue.
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Shtaym Syek
Footballguy
Because it's an obvious political move.It doesn't make what she's doing right now illegal.
snogger
Footballguy
Agree 100%.
Never meant what I posted to be interrupted that I thought she was doing something "illegal".. Just that she is delaying the inevitable.IMO, the only people helped by her delaying this are the Unions. They will have more time now to get contracts that under the new law wouldn't be feasible.
Statorama
Footballguy
I know way more than I should about Bree Olson.Sure are alot of "experts" in this thread....
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
Your idea of "debate" must be a new one because I have read very little of your thoughts, ideas and so forth in this thread. I have, however, read many of your posts illustrating what you might think, what your ideas might be. But, personal thoughts, not much.Not at all. I'll debate with people until they sling mud and turn this into a personal attack. This is about Wisconsin and maybe the future of the country is these recalls work.
Looks like another possible crony gets a huge raise
Many people on here have asked him questions, yet all he does is copy and paste from Left Wing sites.
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
At least they know it's "a lot" and not "alot".Sure are alot of "experts" in this thread....
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