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Sean Taylor in BIG trouble (1 Viewer)

Honestly, with such a wide disparity between what's officially reported and what's supposedly leaked, I'd rather just wait and see what the real story is. But the point you make is well-taken. It seems odd to not be actively trying to arrest a known shooter. The police have probably interviewed numerous people, who have pointed to numerous people as the shooter. Those interviews pointing to Taylor were probably leaked, and those interviews pointing to otherw were probably not. Gotta aim for the big headlines, you know?We'll see what happens.

 
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this could be real real bad for sean. excuses about not knowing the alphabet will not get him out of this one.

 
From what I understand he is only turning himslef in for questioning. This does not mean he will be arrested or charged of anything. Did they get into any more details than that?

 
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allegedly he fired shots at the house where the people that he thought stole his ATV lived - according to the report he's going to be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon - a very serious felony.

 
allegedly he fired shots at the house where the people that he thought stole his ATV lived - according to the report he's going to be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon - a very serious felony.
:eek: lets hope this is not true.
 
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Jurb26, give it up bro. Theres about a 95% chance he did it. Put the pieces of the puzzle together. ATV stolen (Sean Taylors), shots fired....police want to question him. Hmmmm

 
Jurb26, give it up bro. Theres about a 95% chance he did it. Put the pieces of the puzzle together. ATV stolen (Sean Taylors), shots fired....police want to question him. Hmmmm
You don't think it would be sad if a fine young player in the NFL did this. I know I do. :thumbdown: To Talyor if true, but that fact remains that we don't really know what he did if anything yet. I'm sure a guy like Taylor has friends who may have done something like this and maybe he was just there, kind of like Lewis. We'll hve to see what happens. Shouldn't be long if he is turning himself in. I'm sure charges will be filed it they think he did this.
 
From what I understand he is only turning himslef in for questioning. This does not mean he will be arrested or charged of anything. Did they get into any more details than that?
:lmao:
 
Another rumor, this one from a Miami Hurricanes message board.Link

Supposed story...Sean's Banche, 4 wheel vehicle, was stolen from his friends house, for a second time. I am guessing Seans friend had a clue as to who it was and went over to investigate matters more, maybe shot some fire, I dont know. Maybe confronted them with pistolas.But Seans car was supposedly shot up with a numerous amount of rounds.
 
Boy I'm sure glad that the players that go to the U get a solid education and at least have a grip on real life.

 
Jurb26, please take off you orange and green miami hurricane glasses...honestly.
Are you saying you hope he did this? :shrug:
No i dont HOPE he did it. I dont hope for or wish harm upon anyone, but im almost positive he's the one who shot at the house. It was his ATV that was stolen. I may be wrong, but all the facts/point lead to Sean Taylor. If he wasnt the shooter, than why doesnt he just turn himself in and clear his name from the list of suspects?
 
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For those not familiar with Florida Law. Jeb Bush, back in 1999, passed a law called 10-20-life.

Mandates a minimum 10 year prison term for certain felonies, or attempted felonies in which the offender possesses a firearm or destructive device

Mandates a minimum 20 year prison term when the firearm is discharged

Mandates a minimum 25 years to LIFE if someone is injured or killed

Mandates a minimum 3 year prison term for possession of a firearm by a felon

Mandates that the minimum prison term is to be served consecutively to any other term of imprisonment imposed

Its safe to say, 'IF' he was the shooter, which i think he is, he wont be playing football EVAH!

 
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Jurb26, please take off you orange and green miami hurricane glasses...honestly.
Are you saying you hope he did this? :shrug:
No i dont HOPE he did it. I dont hope for or wish harm upon anyone, but im almost positive he's the one who shot at the house. It was his ATV that was stolen. I may be wrong, but all the facts/point lead to Sean Taylor. If he wasnt the shooter, than why doesnt he just turn himself in and clear his name from the list of suspects?
Did you read through the other thread about this? Ther are tons of conflicting reports as of now. The latest did in fact site that Taylor had friends who went over there and that it was Taylor's car that was shot up. Either way it sounds like the guy made some very poor decisions. However, stating he is guility of anything and what that may be at this point seem a bit presumptuous.
 
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Hopefully he gets cleared - I'd hate to see last years 2nd round rookie pick go down the drain.
If he didn't do it, sure. If he did it I hope he gets the book thrown at him. I'm tired of seeing high profile criminals roam free while sliding big dough into their twisted lawyer's coffers. From primarily white CEOs to primarily black NFLers. Guilty verdicts need to rain down and penalties need to be imposed before the thugs take over.
 
For those not familiar with Florida Law. Jeb Bush, back in 1999, passed a law called 10-20-life.

Mandates a minimum 10 year prison term for certain felonies, or attempted felonies in which the offender possesses a firearm or destructive device

Mandates a minimum 20 year prison term when the firearm is discharged

Mandates a minimum 25 years to LIFE if someone is injured or killed

Mandates a minimum 3 year prison term for possession of a firearm by a felon

Mandates that the minimum prison term is to be served consecutively to any other term of imprisonment imposed

Its safe to say, 'IF' he was the shooter, which i think he is, he wont be playing football EVAH!
My guess is he's guilty and he'll skate. If you or me did this we'd be going to prison for 10 years, but he plays a game and makes millions so he'll walk away from it which I find disgusting. :X
 
I know this isn't really being debated, but to my knowledge:Assault = PhysicalBattery = Verbal

 
Man, I am so glad that Tagliabue shut down ESPN Playmakers series. That show was so unrealistic. So much MORE crazy ### $#!+ has gone on since they cancelled that fine series.For $1.1 Billion, ESPN should be able to resurrect the Playmakers show to run Mondays at 8:00. Better than listening to another "U" guy Irvin blabber about his guys [fellow criminals that they are].They could even use ACTUAL events that happen and not have to write a script. Just do a reenactment thing.

 
Man, I am so glad that Tagliabue shut down ESPN Playmakers series. That show was so unrealistic. So much MORE crazy ### $#!+ has gone on since they cancelled that fine series.For $1.1 Billion, ESPN should be able to resurrect the Playmakers show to run Mondays at 8:00. Better than listening to another "U" guy Irvin blabber about his guys [fellow criminals that they are].They could even use ACTUAL events that happen and not have to write a script. Just do a reenactment thing.And, the only letters in the alphabet these guys care about is the "U" and the "I". There are no I's in team, but 2 I's in mIamI.

 
I don't think you'll ever see Vilma discussed in thread like this. nice to see a good kid with his priorites straight. Just think if Taylor was in DC, this might have never happened...

 
For those not familiar with Florida Law. Jeb Bush, back in 1999, passed a law called 10-20-life.

Mandates a minimum 10 year prison term for certain felonies, or attempted felonies in which the offender possesses a firearm or destructive device

Mandates a minimum 20 year prison term when the firearm is discharged

Mandates a minimum 25 years to LIFE if someone is injured or killed

Mandates a minimum 3 year prison term for possession of a firearm by a felon

Mandates that the minimum prison term is to be served consecutively to any other term of imprisonment imposed

Its safe to say, 'IF' he was the shooter, which i think he is, he wont be playing football EVAH!
So what you're trying to say is he will get probation? :D
 
And, the only letters in the alphabet these guys care about is the "U" and the "I". There are no I's in team, but 2 I's in mIamI.
:lmao: thats so funny, but yet true.Jurb26, yes i have heard about his car being shot up, but nothing about people being with him when they fired shots at a house. How do the cops know he didnt act alone? They didnt witness it because they would have followed the vehicle and made an arrest. Well, maybe one of his friends just called up the police station and said 'Hey whadup dawg, its ya boy pookie black , Sean Taylor didnt shoot up that house, i was with him. Maybe one of the people in the house peeked out through the curtins while the car was firing shots at the house. Could there have been witnesses on the scene? possibly, but usually a drive by happen really quick, thus making it hard to identify the person(s), but maybe there were 3-4 of them hanging out of the window decked out in miami colors all sporting gold grills. Who knows? These aren't the smartest criminals were talking about. The conflicting rumors do make it hard to get a clear picture on things, but i just find it funny that if he wasnt the shoter, than why hasnt he tunred himself in to clear his name? He must of did something that he doesnt want to go to jail for. Well see...

 
For those not familiar with Florida Law. Jeb Bush, back in 1999, passed a law called 10-20-life.

Mandates a minimum 10 year prison term for certain felonies, or attempted felonies in which the offender possesses a firearm or destructive device

Mandates a minimum 20 year prison term when the firearm is discharged

Mandates a minimum 25 years to LIFE if someone is injured or killed

Mandates a minimum 3 year prison term for possession of a firearm by a felon

Mandates that the minimum prison term is to be served consecutively to any other term of imprisonment imposed

Its safe to say, 'IF' he was the shooter, which i think he is, he wont be playing football EVAH!
So what you're trying to say is he will get probation? :D
the way they usually treat NFL players, that is very likely (if he actualy did it - which we don't know yet)
 
I know this isn't really being debated, but to my knowledge:

Assault = Physical

Battery = Verbal
FWIW, From dictionary .com...
Battery

1. The act of beating or pounding.

2. Law. The unlawful and unwanted touching or striking of one person by another, with the intention of bringing about a harmful or offensive contact.

Assault

A violent physical or verbal attack.

# Law

1. An unlawful threat or attempt to do bodily injury to another.

2. The act or an instance of unlawfully threatening or attempting to injure another.
 
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Man, I am so glad that Tagliabue shut down ESPN Playmakers series. That show was so unrealistic. So much MORE crazy ### $#!+ has gone on since they cancelled that fine series.

For $1.1 Billion, ESPN should be able to resurrect the Playmakers show to run Mondays at 8:00. Better than listening to another "U" guy Irvin blabber about his guys [fellow criminals that they are].

They could even use ACTUAL events that happen and not have to write a script. Just do a reenactment thing.
Just watch Americas Most wanted.. :popcorn: Go GIANTS! :lol:

 
Taylor still has not contacted the police. Redskins front office and Taylor's agent are dead silent, which is probably appropriate but doesn't give us much to over-react about. Sunday Washington Post article

The Miami-Dade Police Department issued no new information yesterday concerning Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor, with two police sources saying that he remained a "person of interest" in a case involving a shooting Wednesday night and that, as of yesterday afternoon, he had yet to submit to questioning. On Friday, police spokesmen confirmed that Taylor was someone they were seeking to speak to about this case but, with the investigation ongoing, were unsure if he was a witness, victim or suspect.Taylor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has not returned repeated phone calls for the past two days. Taylor's mother, Donna Junor, who said Friday that she had not heard from Taylor recently, was unable to be reached by telephone yesterday.The Redskins have yet to acknowledge the situation in any form, issuing no statements and returning no phone calls. NFL representatives said they were deferring to police officials with the case still under investigation and said they had no information on Taylor's whereabouts.Police officials have said no one was injured in the incident being investigated. One police source said Friday that Taylor, 22, and a friend were at the scene of a crime Wednesday night where shots were fired into a stolen vehicle in a residential area, but the nature of their role in the case was unclear. Taylor was one of several people police were trying to contact to gather more information about what may have occurred.A Miami-Dade detective said yesterday that the robbery division was investigating the case, while the department's public information office, which handles inquires from the media, was closed for the weekend. Two police sources said that, given Taylor's high profile, the department would likely issue a statement if or when he was questioned, and that had not occurred as of last evening.Police investigators attempting to find Taylor have contacted his family and league officials, but several of Taylor's family members said Friday they did not know where he has been. Taylor has spent much of the offseason in South Florida, where he makes his home, and has elected not to participate in the team's voluntary workouts and practices, a decision with which Coach Joe Gibbs has expressed disappointment on numerous occasions.
 
And just as soon as I posted that, there's a report that he turned himself into police. Still not charged, still no warrant.ABC News artcile

June 4 MIAMI — Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor, describe as a "person of interest" in an assault case, turned himself in to Miami-Dade County police on Saturday, ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reported.The assault happened Wednesday night and shots were fired, police spokesman Mary Walters said. No one was injured.Questioned about a broadcast report that Taylor, when found, would be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, one South Florida law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation said: "All I can tell you is that the investigation has moved forward in some areas but that, at this point, officially, nothing has changed in terms of [Taylor's] status. He remains a person of interest to us. If or when something changes, people will know it."Police have not issued an arrest warrant against Taylor."We need to speak to him, we don't know if he's a victim, witness or suspect," Walters said on Friday.Walters said she didn't have further details and police were still investigating.The Washington Post reported on its Web site the assault case involved a stolen car. Taylor and a friend were reportedly at the scene of a crime, but it was unclear who the stolen car belonged to and why Taylor was there. A public information officer for the Miami-Dade County Police Department told The Post that shots were fired into the vehicle.Earlier Friday, Detective Robert Williams said "a person of interest" means Taylor could be a subject, victim or witness of an alleged crime and that the police department was looking for him.Taylor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, declined comment Friday. Taylor and the Redskins didn't immediately return phone messages seeking comment.
 
From the Footballguys Blogger

June 4, 2005, 23:30

Redskins :: DB

FS S. Taylor Charged After Turning Himself In

ABCnews.com - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor, described as a "person of interest" in an assault case, turned himself in to Miami-Dade County police on Saturday, ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reported. Taylor has been charged with aggravated assault with a firearm, a felony, and simple battery.

RW

 
Usually I'd think high priced idiots would get away with big crimes. Luckily for Taylor, Old Jeb Bush is probaly gearing up for a chance to be in the White House come 08. Finally a bratty celebrity is gonna go down, and go down like anybody else, 20 years in prison according to Florida law. The only reason I think Taylor is going down is cause Bush doesn't want to screw up his shot at the Presidency. I can only hope a rich person finally pays for their crime like everyone else, then of course Jeb does not get into the White House to screw up our country even more than his dimwitted brother.

 
He turned himself in around 10 pm last night. Both the Washingon Post article and the ABC News article have changed since I last posted them. Supposedly he's in jail now.

updated Washington Post article

ESPN.com and the Miami Herald reported that Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor turned himself in to the Miami-Dade Police Department last night and was charged with a felony count of aggravated assault with a firearm as well as simple battery, but police officials would not confirm that and continued to say that Taylor was a person of interest in this case.

The Herald said Taylor turned himself in, accompanied by his lawyer, about 10 p.m. last night at the Cutler Ridge district police station and was taken to Turner Guilford Knight correctional facility.
updated ABC News article
Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor, described as a "person of interest" in an assault case, turned himself in to Miami-Dade County police on Saturday, ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reported. Taylor has been charged with aggravated assault with a firearm, a felony, and simple battery.

The assault happened Wednesday night and shots were fired, police spokesman Mary Walters said. No one was injured.

The Washington Post reported on its Web site the assault case involved a stolen car. Taylor and a friend were reportedly at the scene of a crime, but it was unclear who the stolen car belonged to and why Taylor was there. A public information officer for the Miami-Dade County Police Department told The Post that shots were fired into the vehicle.
Yahoo News article
Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor was arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a firearm Saturday night after turning himself in to Miami-Dade County police.

According to a police statement, Taylor pointed a gun at an unidentified person Wednesday during a dispute over two all-terrain vehicles he claimed were stolen. Taylor left the scene but returned about 10 minutes later and punched one person.

Police had been looking for Taylor since Friday.

Taylor, 22, was accompanied by his attorney, Fred Moldovan, when he turned himself in. He was also charged with simple battery.

Police said the Redskins organization cooperated with them during the investigation.

``We have just been made aware of a potential situation in Miami regarding Sean Taylor,'' Redskins spokesman Karl Swanson said in a statement. ``The representatives for Taylor are keeping us informed as to the developments. There is nothing we can add to the process at this time.''

Taylor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, did not return a phone message left by The Associated Press late Saturday.

Another man, Charles Elwood Caughman, threatened and chased another victim with a baseball bat, police said. Caughman, 19, was arrested later that day and charged with aggravated assault.
The Yahoo article appears to be the latest one, and has some details the other stories do not.
 
Taylor should have a chat w/Ray and Jamal Lewis about "how to choose your friends"these guys that hang around w/thugs---then wonder "how'd that happen"--- when things go south, need to have their head's examinedI would think, when the smoke clears, that Taylor would be wise to:get his #### to camp---shut up---and play football

 
Taylor should have a chat w/Ray and Jamal Lewis about "how to choose your friends"

these guys that hang around w/thugs---then wonder "how'd that happen"--- when things go south, need to have their head's examined

I would think, when the smoke clears, that Taylor would be wise to:

get his #### to camp---shut up---and play football
When the smoke clears Taylor is going to be far from a football field. He'll be living the Longest Yard dream.
 
In reality, IF Taylor is guilty and IF the prosecution has evidence to prove it, he'll probably plea bargain for a lesser offense and at most pull a Jamal Lewis in the offseason.

 
In reality, IF Taylor is guilty and IF the prosecution has evidence to prove it, he'll probably plea bargain for a lesser offense and at most pull a Jamal Lewis in the offseason.
I dunno about that. There's a big difference between using a cell phone to coordinate a drug deal and shooting up a a car in payback style. I don't see the offenses as similar. Although the slimeball lawyer he uses will undoubtedly come up with something good. Maybe he'll try to outdo KoRnHoLe's DUI excuse.
 
I dunno about that. There's a big difference between using a cell phone to coordinate a drug deal and shooting up a a car in payback style. I don't see the offenses as similar. Although the slimeball lawyer he uses will undoubtedly come up with something good. Maybe he'll try to outdo KoRnHoLe's DUI excuse.
Unless the prosecution has a solid case they'll be more then happed to plea bargain, especially on an agg. assualt. If all the prosecution has is circumstantial evidence, they'll bargain.
 
I would think, when the smoke clears, that Taylor would be wise to:

get his #### to camp---shut up---and play football
You're right about that, before the Redskins suddenly agree that his contract needs to be renegotiated. Downward.
 
Why do people get pleasure from other people's misery? I'm not saying I want him off the hook. If he did it, I hope he is punished to the full extent of the law. However, if you have a troubled young man like Sean, you'd hope he can mature and avoid situations like this.

 
Why do people get pleasure from other people's misery? I'm not saying I want him off the hook. If he did it, I hope he is punished to the full extent of the law. However, if you have a troubled young man like Sean, you'd hope he can mature and avoid situations like this.
Who said we get pleasure from other peoples misery? Your putting words in peoples mouth. I think majority of us here are just tired of these athletes getting off because their a sports star. I hope anyone, not just him, can mature and learn from bad exerpiences. Maybe prison will help him achieve that. Maybe he will enroll in some kind of class while in prison. Hell, it might be a better education that the one he recieved at 'Tha U.' Maybe he will find God... who knows, but i sure as hell dont feel sorry for him, thats for sure.
 
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I want to hear all the details before throwing the book at Taylor. If he shot at people stealing his car I don't have a big problem with it. If they weren't stealing a car they wouldn't have to worry about getting shot at.

 
Why do people get pleasure from other people's misery?  I'm not saying I want him off the hook.  If he did it, I hope he is punished to the full extent of the law.  However, if you have a troubled young man like Sean, you'd hope he can mature and avoid situations like this.
Who said we get pleasure from other peoples misery? Your putting words in peoples mouth. I think majority of us here are just tired of these athletes getting off because their a sports star. I hope anyone, not just him, can mature and learn from bad exerpiences. Maybe prison will help him achieve that. Maybe he will enroll in some kind of class while in prison. Hell, it might be a better education that the one he recieved at 'Tha U.' Maybe he will find God... who knows, but i sure as hell dont feel sorry for him, thats for sure.
This is the best news I have heard all summer!
 
OK, 1 perosn...anyone else?
I'm sure there are more out there, whether they are posting here or not. I didn't mean to imply that the majority of the posters in this topic get pleasure from other people's misery. I was really just referring to that one poster.
 
Why do people get pleasure from other people's misery? I'm not saying I want him off the hook. If he did it, I hope he is punished to the full extent of the law. However, if you have a troubled young man like Sean, you'd hope he can mature and avoid situations like this.
I don't ge tpleasure from their misery, but with the glut of stars that get away with murder, some literally, I want to see a bad seed get what he deserves. I'd prefer he didn't get into trouble in the first place. But since he (or whoever at the time) DID get himself in a pickle I'd like to see him get what he deserves. Just like any other guy that gets off on something ridiculous (like the ABC defense)Hoping that people are made to accept responibility for their actions is not the same as revelling in the fact that someone is going down. Hopefully he can turn it around but that doesn't change what he deserves for this one ("he" in general, not necessarily Taylor).

 

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