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Out of all of the Seahawk fans, at times I feel like I am the Debbie Downer of the group. This week is no different. Here is a stat that scares the crap out of me. Seattle has not won in SF since October 26, 2008. In addition you have Seahawk fans going out of their way to piss off opposing fans.

http://mynorthwest.com/11/2407294/12th-Man-flag-to-fly-high-above-San-Francisco-Sunday

The 12th Man will be well represented high above San Francisco Sunday when the Seahawks take on the 49ers at Candlestick Park, thanks to some industrious fans who've raised enough money to fly a banner from a plane before the game.

"There's a lot of us that can't make that game and we wanted to have our presence felt," says lifelong Hawks fan Cedric Morris.

Morris says he and another friend launched an online fundraiser to come up with the $1,300 it would cost to hire a plane to tow their banner for about 30 minutes before the game against Seattle's archrival. The huge banner reads "Go Hawks-12."

Morris hopes the banner gets a big rise out of the San Francisco fans.

"Well, they're not going to like it, that's for sure," he laughs.

The banner is timed to fly over as the teams warm up for the game. Morris thinks it'll help pump up the Hawks, and he'd be glad if it bothered at least a few of the 49ers.

"We're going to get a little mental thing with the Niners. Try to beat them before the game even starts."

The banner likely won't get any live TV coverage since it'll fly before the broadcast begins, but Morris says the Associated Press and some Bay Area TV stations plan to cover it.

The campaign has proven so popular, it's raised 141 percent of its goal. So Morris plans to donate 20 percent of the money raised to The Wounded Warrior Project.

"We're the 12th Man. We're the greatest fans on earth," he says of the effort.

 
Not even worth discussing. No blind homerism here... Even if SF can pull the win out this week, doesn't really mean much - They aren't in the same class as Seattle this year. Seattle is playing lights out. I attribute their only loss to a bad day at the office, happens to every team here and there. It hurts me to say, but nobody can accuse me of being a blind fan. Wilson has also progressed A LOT more than Kaep this year.

Seattle has enough of a lead now +2 over NO (who still have Car twice), that even if they lose, they'll still have home field.

 
Wow - nice tidbit of information. I would favor Seattle right now, but ya never know. Unfortunately I will play SF D and start R Wilson at QB. Vernon Davis added a little fuel to the fire as well. Seattle looked damn good at home. SF just looked pretty good.

 
Not even worth discussing. No blind homerism here... Even if SF can pull the win out this week, doesn't really mean much - They aren't in the same class as Seattle this year. Seattle is playing lights out. I attribute their only loss to a bad day at the office, happens to every team here and there. It hurts me to say, but nobody can accuse me of being a blind fan. Wilson has also progressed A LOT more than Kaep this year.
I've been a 49ers fan since before The Catch, and I can't argue with anything posted above. I expect a lot closer game than the ones the 9ers played in Seattle, but, ultimately, I think the 9ers lose this one too.

 
Seattle not having won at SF since 2008 is completely irrelevant. Right now, they are far and away the better team, and the 49ers offense has looked completely clueless in the last three games against the Seahawks defense, so unless the 49ers D has a lights out game (like last October, when they won 13-6 at home against a Russell Wilson that was still adjusting to the NFL), or Harbaugh magically figures out a way for the 49ers offense to break through, Seattle should win this.

 
Looks like a prime week for the natural, human, mental letdown for Seattle. Short week, going on the road, and the last game was essentially a playoff atmosphere.

It's hard to play at 100% every single week. Every single week, with real live human beings. Now of course, SF can't lay an egg -- Seattle at 75% might well be enough to beat SF's best effort.

 
"We're going to get a little mental thing with the Niners. Try to beat them before the game even starts."

"We're the 12th Man. We're the greatest fans on earth," he says of the effort.

DEFCON 1 tool status?

 
Looks like a prime week for the natural, human, mental letdown for Seattle. Short week, going on the road, and the last game was essentially a playoff atmosphere.

It's hard to play at 100% every single week. Every single week, with real live human beings. Now of course, SF can't lay an egg -- Seattle at 75% might well be enough to beat SF's best effort.
:no:

This is incorrect... The 49ers aren't the Bucs - Showing up at 75% or for only one half of football will not get it done in SF.

 
Looks like a prime week for the natural, human, mental letdown for Seattle. Short week, going on the road, and the last game was essentially a playoff atmosphere.

It's hard to play at 100% every single week. Every single week, with real live human beings. Now of course, SF can't lay an egg -- Seattle at 75% might well be enough to beat SF's best effort.
I dunno that I'd worry about a mental letdown this week. Seattle's been looking forward to this matchup for a long time now. The following week in NY is when I worry about the mental lapses. If they expect to go anywhere in the playoffs, they need to get used to getting up for big games week after week. Falling short to Atlanta because of a terrible first half has to be prime bulletin board material for staying focused on the Niners. Keeping the Niners from making the playoffs is a huge cherry on the regular season for them. VD can say whatever he wants, he hasn't finished a game against Seattle in at least 2, if not 3 games.

 
:no:

This is incorrect... The 49ers aren't the Bucs - Showing up at 75% or for only one half of football will not get it done in SF.
Seattle looked freakish last week. Playing 75% of the MNF level this weekend at SF means a comfy victory over the 49ers A++++ game, IMHO. Seattle could probably even be -4 or -5 in the turnover battle, including a pair of pick-6s, and still win this weekend.

Or else the Saints suck out loud, and this past Monday showed nothing about Seatlle's relative abilities. Could well be.

 
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"We're going to get a little mental thing with the Niners. Try to beat them before the game even starts."

"We're the 12th Man. We're the greatest fans on earth," he says of the effort.

DEFCON 1 tool status?
Seattle's not going stay elite for years and years in the current NFL. Going to be a long, long fall for fans who have that much invested.

 
Seattle has enough of a lead now +2 over NO (who still have Car twice), that even if they lose, they'll still have home field.
Bolded is the reason Seattle does not have enough of a lead at this point, Carolina also gets the Jets and Falcons giving them a pretty good shot at 13-3.

 
Looks like a prime week for the natural, human, mental letdown for Seattle. Short week, going on the road, and the last game was essentially a playoff atmosphere.

It's hard to play at 100% every single week. Every single week, with real live human beings. Now of course, SF can't lay an egg -- Seattle at 75% might well be enough to beat SF's best effort.
I dunno that I'd worry about a mental letdown this week. Seattle's been looking forward to this matchup for a long time now. The following week in NY is when I worry about the mental lapses. If they expect to go anywhere in the playoffs, they need to get used to getting up for big games week after week. Falling short to Atlanta because of a terrible first half has to be prime bulletin board material for staying focused on the Niners. Keeping the Niners from making the playoffs is a huge cherry on the regular season for them.VD can say whatever he wants, he hasn't finished a game against Seattle in at least 2, if not 3 games.
Given the 29-3 blowout that took place in Seattle back in Week 2, tight end Vernon Davis expects the 49ers to give a loud reply.

"Any time you play a team and you lose, the next opportunity you get to play them again, it's definitely a statement game," Davis said, per the San Jose Mercury News.

Davis said the Niners plan on getting out to a fast start. Presumably, San Francisco will be able to fuel that start with the bitterness they harbor for the Seahawks.

"It might be the most intense game this season, because those guys don't like us, and we don't like them," Davis said

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000292518/article/vernon-davis-expects-statement-game-from-49ers-vs-seahawks

 
Seattle has enough of a lead now +2 over NO (who still have Car twice), that even if they lose, they'll still have home field.
Bolded is the reason Seattle does not have enough of a lead at this point, Carolina also gets the Jets and Falcons giving them a pretty good shot at 13-3.
Seattle owns the H2H - plus, this has the makings of a split, I doubt that either team wins both. Seattle has an amazing inside track at home field. They're Super Bowl bound, the sooner everyone accepts it, the easier it will be.

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This is incorrect... The 49ers aren't the Bucs - Showing up at 75% or for only one half of football will not get it done in SF.
Seattle looked freakish last week. Playing 75% of the MNF level this weekend at SF means a comfy victory over the 49ers A++++ game, IMHO. Seattle could probably even be -4 or -5 in the turnover battle, including a pair of pick-6s, and still win this weekend.

Or else the Saints suck out loud, and this past Monday showed nothing about Seatlle's relative abilities. Could well be.
We'll agree to disagree. If you read my above comment, I think they're in a class above everyone else. With that being said, this is the NFL & you don't just show up at a playoff team's house and steamroll them at three quarters effort.

 
Given the 29-3 blowout that took place in Seattle back in Week 2, tight end Vernon Davis expects the 49ers to give a loud reply.

"Any time you play a team and you lose, the next opportunity you get to play them again, it's definitely a statement game," Davis said, per the San Jose Mercury News.

Davis said the Niners plan on getting out to a fast start. Presumably, San Francisco will be able to fuel that start with the bitterness they harbor for the Seahawks.

"It might be the most intense game this season, because those guys don't like us, and we don't like them," Davis said

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000292518/article/vernon-davis-expects-statement-game-from-49ers-vs-seahawks
What statement did the 49ers make in their next game against the Seahawks after losing to them 42-13 last December? Losing 29-3. I guess losing by 26 instead of 29 was an improvement.

 
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Seachickens coming off a high and won't show up for this game. Niners take this one IMO.
you obviously don't know much about the Seahawks. 49ers may win this one but it won't be because the Hawks don't show up.

 
As a Seahawks fan, this game scares me, for the reason Doug B stated above, the letdown factor after two weeks to prepare for a big Saints game. They have a short week plus a little recovery time coming down off of an emotional high, to try and refocus and try to bring the same intensity to an important game on the road.

That said, I was just comparing the offensive and defensive team stats, for home and away, and I was surprised that Seattle's road offensive and defensive units are better than San Francisco's respective units at home, in nearly every category. I didn't realize how bad San Francisco's offense has been at home, ranking #28 in the NFL for yards per game (home, and overall). Seattle's road defense is ranked #4 in yards allowed.

It's the 49ers rushing game, that was making me nervous going in, but both San Francisco's home rushing game and Seattle's road rushing defense are have played perfectly average. San Francisco's home rushing defense isn't quite Top 10, but they are decent, and they'll have their hands full with Seattle, which on the road is ranked #3 in rushing yards.

San Francisco is the second worst passing team in the NFL, and they don't see much of a boost at home, and Seattle is the best road team in the NFL for passing yards per attempt on the road.

Seattle's road offense scores more points than San Francisco puts up at home, and they hold opponents to fewer points as well.

On paper, this looks like it could be another route, but there are intangibles at play that can't be discounted. All signs point to Seattle here, but San Francisco always has that "you just never know" thing working in their favor.

Much is made of Seattle's home field advantage, but in truth, before this week's win in New Orleans, their homefield advantage was only raked #21 in the NFL here:

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/ranking/home-advantage-by-team

and even after that decisive win, they still only move up to #9. It isn't a knock against the Clink, the truth of the matter is that they have quietly become the best road team in the NFL:

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/ranking/away-power-ranking-by-team

 
The idea that the Seahawks are going to overlook this game is laughable. These two teams are not friendly. Seattle hasn't won in SF in a while. SF won the division and the conference last year. The coaches hate each other.

This is probably the last game on the whole schedule they'd overlook. SF on the road? That's a big deal.

 
If the Hawks pull this one out then they own the Niners. In SF, Hawks off short week and huge win.
They can also secure a first round bye with a win. I think it's going to be a tough game for the Hawks. I'm hoping for a win, but not expecting one.

 
That surprises me. Granted, Vegas knows more than all of us, so I won't dare question it, but it just surprises me, since the home team is usually given around a 2 1/2-pt edge to start off with, so they are basically calling the teams even.
Figuring in a letdown factor, maybe?

 
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Out of all of the Seahawk fans, at times I feel like I am the Debbie Downer of the group. This week is no different. Here is a stat that scares the crap out of me. Seattle has not won in SF since October 26, 2008. In addition you have Seahawk fans going out of their way to piss off opposing fans.

http://mynorthwest.com/11/2407294/12th-Man-flag-to-fly-high-above-San-Francisco-Sunday

The 12th Man will be well represented high above San Francisco Sunday when the Seahawks take on the 49ers at Candlestick Park, thanks to some industrious fans who've raised enough money to fly a banner from a plane before the game.

"There's a lot of us that can't make that game and we wanted to have our presence felt," says lifelong Hawks fan Cedric Morris.

Morris says he and another friend launched an online fundraiser to come up with the $1,300 it would cost to hire a plane to tow their banner for about 30 minutes before the game against Seattle's archrival. The huge banner reads "Go Hawks-12."

Morris hopes the banner gets a big rise out of the San Francisco fans.

"Well, they're not going to like it, that's for sure," he laughs.

The banner is timed to fly over as the teams warm up for the game. Morris thinks it'll help pump up the Hawks, and he'd be glad if it bothered at least a few of the 49ers.

"We're going to get a little mental thing with the Niners. Try to beat them before the game even starts."

The banner likely won't get any live TV coverage since it'll fly before the broadcast begins, but Morris says the Associated Press and some Bay Area TV stations plan to cover it.

The campaign has proven so popular, it's raised 141 percent of its goal. So Morris plans to donate 20 percent of the money raised to The Wounded Warrior Project.

"We're the 12th Man. We're the greatest fans on earth," he says of the effort.
Pretty much, IMO at least, the equivalent of college teams stealing each others' mascot or painting the big letter on the mountain or statue.

Not that it matters. Niners and their fans don't even think twice about the Seahawks. Just a ho-hum nothing of a game against a faceless team and fan base. Definitely not anything to chant after a win on national television against an unrelated team.

 
SF is a favorite? That is pretty surprising...

The next time they play in Seattle, I'm betting the farm on the Hawks - I don't care if the spread is 14.

 
Looks like a prime week for the natural, human, mental letdown for Seattle. Short week, going on the road, and the last game was essentially a playoff atmosphere.

It's hard to play at 100% every single week. Every single week, with real live human beings. Now of course, SF can't lay an egg -- Seattle at 75% might well be enough to beat SF's best effort.
I dunno that I'd worry about a mental letdown this week. Seattle's been looking forward to this matchup for a long time now. The following week in NY is when I worry about the mental lapses. If they expect to go anywhere in the playoffs, they need to get used to getting up for big games week after week. Falling short to Atlanta because of a terrible first half has to be prime bulletin board material for staying focused on the Niners. Keeping the Niners from making the playoffs is a huge cherry on the regular season for them. VD can say whatever he wants, he hasn't finished a game against Seattle in at least 2, if not 3 games.
I don't know about that, Sweeney. Based on everything you hear the leaders and coaches of the team say, they take it one game at a time (each week is a "championship week").At this point (in this season), I don't think this rivalry means as much to Seattle as it does to the 49ers; simply because the overall objective for Seattle is so clearly defined and achievable. San Francisco needs a W here more than the Seahawks.

 
What's the point spread on this game?
SEA +2.5
I assume that's a typo and should say SEA -2.5, right?
Nope Seattle is underdog.
Do I have to physically go to Vegas to pick up the free money, or can I get it over the internet?
I wouldn't do that.

take the Hawks in your teasers +8.5, pass on the side.

Niners 20 Seahawks 14

 
As a Seahawks fan, this game does NOT worry me.

Not because I think it will be a walk in the park for Seattle but because the outcome of this game is largely irrelevant to the season. Seattle is getting home field whether they win in SF or not. A loss here was almost penciled in by most Seattle fans as one of the 3 or so games Seattle would probably lose this season.

I still would love them to win because I hate the 9ers, but a loss is not going to devastate me, nor should it any other Seattle fan.

 
Looks like a prime week for the natural, human, mental letdown for Seattle. Short week, going on the road, and the last game was essentially a playoff atmosphere.

It's hard to play at 100% every single week. Every single week, with real live human beings. Now of course, SF can't lay an egg -- Seattle at 75% might well be enough to beat SF's best effort.
I dunno that I'd worry about a mental letdown this week. Seattle's been looking forward to this matchup for a long time now. The following week in NY is when I worry about the mental lapses. If they expect to go anywhere in the playoffs, they need to get used to getting up for big games week after week. Falling short to Atlanta because of a terrible first half has to be prime bulletin board material for staying focused on the Niners. Keeping the Niners from making the playoffs is a huge cherry on the regular season for them. VD can say whatever he wants, he hasn't finished a game against Seattle in at least 2, if not 3 games.
I don't know about that, Sweeney. Based on everything you hear the leaders and coaches of the team say, they take it one game at a time (each week is a "championship week").At this point (in this season), I don't think this rivalry means as much to Seattle as it does to the 49ers; simply because the overall objective for Seattle is so clearly defined and achievable. San Francisco needs a W here more than the Seahawks.
Oh great, now Seahawk fans are going to try and down play it like the Niners fans unsuccessfully tried to do in September. Taking things one week at a time and looking forward to a specific game are not mutually exclusive.
 
What's the point spread on this game?
SEA +2.5
I assume that's a typo and should say SEA -2.5, right?
Nope Seattle is underdog.
Do I have to physically go to Vegas to pick up the free money, or can I get it over the internet?
I wouldn't do that. take the Hawks in your teasers +8.5, pass on the side.

Niners 20 Seahawks 14
This guy gets it

 
As a Seahawks fan, this game does NOT worry me.

Not because I think it will be a walk in the park for Seattle but because the outcome of this game is largely irrelevant to the season. Seattle is getting home field whether they win in SF or not. A loss here was almost penciled in by most Seattle fans as one of the 3 or so games Seattle would probably lose this season.

I still would love them to win because I hate the 9ers, but a loss is not going to devastate me, nor should it any other Seattle fan.
I'd say this is pretty accurate. I look forward to this game and would really like to see the 49ers swept. This may be the only game in the next month that has a substantial degree of anticipation for us Hawk fans.

 
I'm surprised by all the surprise of the Niners favored in a staunch divisional battle, Niners hosting Seattle on a short week.

Don't think that anyone can argue that the Niners are a better team, but they aren't the Jags/Texans/Falcons/Bucs/etc. This is an 8-4 team, and this is is the NFL. Any given Sunday.

 
As a Seahawks fan, this game does NOT worry me.

Not because I think it will be a walk in the park for Seattle but because the outcome of this game is largely irrelevant to the season. Seattle is getting home field whether they win in SF or not. A loss here was almost penciled in by most Seattle fans as one of the 3 or so games Seattle would probably lose this season.

I still would love them to win because I hate the 9ers, but a loss is not going to devastate me, nor should it any other Seattle fan.
We need to win two of the last four to gaurantee HFA throughout. Until that happens, every game matters, every game is relevant. AZ and StL at home are not gimmes, as both teams have played very well at times and would love nothing more than to spoil Seattle's goals. NYG on the east coast in a morning game is troublesome too, even though they've managed to dispel their road woes thus far this season. Two big games in a row could easily leave the Hawks in letdown mode. Theyre all relevant.
 

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