Secession petitions now filed for all 50 states (1 Viewer)

[St. Louis Bob]

In the wake of last week's presidential election, thousands of Americans have signed petitions seeking permission for their states to peacefully secede from the United States. The petitions were filed on We the People, a government website.

States with citizens filing include Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas. Oddly, folks from Georgia have filed twice. Even stranger, several of the petitions come from states that went for President Barack Obama.

The petitions are short and to the point. For example, a petition from the Volunteer State reads: "Peacefully grant the State of Tennessee to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government." Of all the petitions, Texas has the most signatures so far, with more than 23,000.

Of course, this is mostly a symbolic gesture. The odds of the American government granting any state permission to go its own way are on par with winning the lottery while getting hit by a meteor while seeing Bigfoot while finding gluten-free pizza that tastes like the real thing.

An article from WKRC quotes a University of Louisville political science professor who explained that these petitions aren't uncommon. Similar petitions were filed following the 2004 and 2008 elections. Still, should the petitions garner 25,000 signatures in a month, they will require an official response from the Obama administration.

From the We the People site:

The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. We the People provides a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country. We created We the People because we want to hear from you. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it's sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.

Not everybody who wants to secede is polite enough to write a petition. Peter Morrison, treasurer of the Hardin County (Texas) Republican Party, wrote a post-election newsletter in which he urges the Lone Star State to leave the Union.

"We must contest every single inch of ground and delay the baby-murdering, tax-raising socialists at every opportunity. But in due time, the maggots will have eaten every morsel of flesh off of the rotting corpse of the Republic, and therein lies our opportunity... Why should Vermont and Texas live under the same government? Let each go her own way in peace, sign a free trade agreement among the states and we can avoid this gut-wrenching spectacle every four years."

My link

White people are crazy.

 

[NutterButter]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

 

[Gr00vus]

New York, wait...

 

[Apple Jack]

Wouldn't it be easier to just leave?

 

[Joe T]

The people that are really leaving do it without posting a farewell thread.

 

[Henry Ford]

Wouldn't it be easier to just leave?

And go where? The only countries living by the principles most of these people prefer are slightly below the 1%'s standard of living.

 

[Apple Jack]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

I'm cool with making a deal to have them all pile into a Texas and let them have at it. But that's that. Once you're out, you're out. Renouncing citizenship is one thing...promoting succession is a smell ya later endeavor.

 

[butcher boy]

Let Texas leave. Good luck to the Republican party in getting another president elected ever again.

Can they take Florida with them?

 

[Apple Jack]

The people that are really leaving do it without posting a farewell thread.

It's true.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

I read this earlier today and figured most of the FFA would not like this.

So is there anything that the FFA can rally to obtain 25K signatures on in 30 days?

Oh, and Texas has the signatures. Will I need a passport next week when I visit?

 

[urbanhack]

The people that are really leaving.....

are pretty ####### stupid.

 

[Apple Jack]

I think we should grant it to one state. It shouldn't take long for them to beg to be let back in. Then we can all laugh at them.

Don't forget to email them a refersher:http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/2809373683_f15734a35b_o.gif

 

[Apple Jack]

These people really are out of their minds and the right-wing propaganda machine needs to take ownership of this hysteria and stop it. Somebody's going to take a shot at Obama if they don't get this under control. It's completely Roger Ailes/Limbaugh/Beck generated. Completely. Enough already.

 

[Mark Davis]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

You could, but then our pro football teams would own yours like a little b****.

 

[Jewell]

I've signed 19 of the secession petitions, but not that one state because they have too many #####.

 

[Mark Davis]

These people really are out of their minds and the right-wing propaganda machine needs to take ownership of this hysteria and stop it. Somebody's going to take a shot at Obama if they don't get this under control. It's completely Roger Ailes/Limbaugh/Beck generated. Completely. Enough already.

I'm shocked nobody's taken a shot yet to be honest.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Let Texas leave. Good luck to the Republican party in getting another president elected ever again. Can they take Florida with them?

IT would take years for them to count the votes.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

These people really are out of their minds and the right-wing propaganda machine needs to take ownership of this hysteria and stop it. Somebody's going to take a shot at Obama if they don't get this under control. It's completely Roger Ailes/Limbaugh/Beck generated. Completely. Enough already.

I had a client tell me she truly believes Obama is the antichrist.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Let Texas leave. Good luck to the Republican party in getting another president elected ever again. Can they take Florida with them?

IT would take years for them to count the votes.

 

[Mark Davis]

These people really are out of their minds and the right-wing propaganda machine needs to take ownership of this hysteria and stop it. Somebody's going to take a shot at Obama if they don't get this under control. It's completely Roger Ailes/Limbaugh/Beck generated. Completely. Enough already.

I had a client tell me she truly believes Obama is the antichrist.

Yep. I voted for Romney but some girl I went to high school with was posting articles on Facebook and nonsense about him being some kind of Muslim king. I couldn't take the nonsense, only person I have ever unfriended.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

omg, please make this happen. at least one of em

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

successful petition responses from WhiteHouse.gov!

 

[datonn]

These people really are out of their minds and the right-wing propaganda machine needs to take ownership of this hysteria and stop it. Somebody's going to take a shot at Obama if they don't get this under control. It's completely Roger Ailes/Limbaugh/Beck generated. Completely. Enough already.

I'm shocked nobody's taken a shot yet to be honest.

That's my biggest fear in American politics right now. Some ape-#### crazy Tea Partier taking a shot at Obama. Calling themselves a "patriot" for ending the tyrannical reign of a President that only a majority of Americans have voted for twice in the past 4+ years...just because a majority of their friends and the members of their congregation feel differently. Instead of calling themselves what they are: terrorists. 100-times more dangerous to the future of our nation as al-Qaeda is (and will ever be).

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

These people really are out of their minds and the right-wing propaganda machine needs to take ownership of this hysteria and stop it. Somebody's going to take a shot at Obama if they don't get this under control. It's completely Roger Ailes/Limbaugh/Beck generated. Completely. Enough already.

I had a client tell me she truly believes Obama is the antichrist.

Is she a fat blonde who used to be on Saturday Night Live?

 

[datonn]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

I'm cool with making a deal to have them all pile into a Texas and let them have at it. But that's that. Once you're out, you're out. Renouncing citizenship is one thing...promoting succession is a smell ya later endeavor.

This. You leave, it's a one-way trip. No "whoops, my bad...I was only kidding." You leave, you give up all rights/claims of citizenship, your social security card (no "green card" issued to you either), etc. If you're going to "resign" as an American citizen, your job/seat won't be waiting for you once you are begging to come back. And if some other nation invades the Republic? Don't expect the US military to come to your rescue. But then you won't need it...what with all those bunkers and guns...

 

[dparker713]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

You could, but then our pro football teams would own yours like a little b****.

Pretty sure the only people that could afford to escape the newly formed Confederacy would be the athletes signed to play in the Union.

 

[dparker713]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

I'm cool with making a deal to have them all pile into a Texas and let them have at it. But that's that. Once you're out, you're out. Renouncing citizenship is one thing...promoting succession is a smell ya later endeavor.

This. You leave, it's a one-way trip. No "whoops, my bad...I was only kidding." You leave, you give up all rights/claims of citizenship, your social security card (no "green card" issued to you either), etc. If you're going to "resign" as an American citizen, your job/seat won't be waiting for you once you are begging to come back. And if some other nation invades the Republic? Don't expect the US military to come to your rescue. But then you won't need it...what with all those bunkers and guns...

And you forgot that they'd all need to disclaim any social security benefits too.

 

[Mark Davis]

These people really are out of their minds and the right-wing propaganda machine needs to take ownership of this hysteria and stop it. Somebody's going to take a shot at Obama if they don't get this under control. It's completely Roger Ailes/Limbaugh/Beck generated. Completely. Enough already.

I'm shocked nobody's taken a shot yet to be honest.

That's my biggest fear in American politics right now. Some ape-#### crazy Tea Partier taking a shot at Obama. Calling themselves a "patriot" for ending the tyrannical reign of a President that only a majority of Americans have voted for twice in the past 4+ years...just because a majority of their friends and the members of their congregation feel differently. Instead of calling themselves what they are: terrorists. 100-times more dangerous to the future of our nation as al-Qaeda is (and will ever be).

There are some crazies out there but I don't know that I'd say they are 100 times more dangerous than al-Qaeda, who undoubtedly would love to set off a nuclear device in America.

 

[NutterButter]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

You could, but then our pro football teams would own yours like a little b****.

Deal

 

[Mark Davis]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

You could, but then our pro football teams would own yours like a little b****.

Pretty sure the only people that could afford to escape the newly formed Confederacy would be the athletes signed to play in the Union.

Why would anyone give them a work visa? I'm pretty sure I could make it wherever personally.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

When this happens, that's when we build the wall.

 

[Mark Davis]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

I'm cool with making a deal to have them all pile into a Texas and let them have at it. But that's that. Once you're out, you're out. Renouncing citizenship is one thing...promoting succession is a smell ya later endeavor.

This. You leave, it's a one-way trip. No "whoops, my bad...I was only kidding." You leave, you give up all rights/claims of citizenship, your social security card (no "green card" issued to you either), etc. If you're going to "resign" as an American citizen, your job/seat won't be waiting for you once you are begging to come back. And if some other nation invades the Republic? Don't expect the US military to come to your rescue. But then you won't need it...what with all those bunkers and guns...

And you forgot that they'd all need to disclaim any social security benefits too.

No need to form a new country for that, I'll do that today if I can quit paying in.

 

[Politician Spock]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

I'm cool with making a deal to have them all pile into a Texas and let them have at it. But that's that. Once you're out, you're out. Renouncing citizenship is one thing...promoting succession is a smell ya later endeavor.

This. You leave, it's a one-way trip. No "whoops, my bad...I was only kidding." You leave, you give up all rights/claims of citizenship, your social security card (no "green card" issued to you either), etc. If you're going to "resign" as an American citizen, your job/seat won't be waiting for you once you are begging to come back. And if some other nation invades the Republic? Don't expect the US military to come to your rescue. But then you won't need it...what with all those bunkers and guns...

And you forgot that they'd all need to disclaim any social security benefits too.

No need to form a new country for that, I'll do that today if I can quit paying in.

Funny how people are claiming people will miss things when they leave, when it's those things that are their motivation for wanting to leave.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

These people really are out of their minds and the right-wing propaganda machine needs to take ownership of this hysteria and stop it. Somebody's going to take a shot at Obama if they don't get this under control. It's completely Roger Ailes/Limbaugh/Beck generated. Completely. Enough already.

I'm shocked nobody's taken a shot yet to be honest.

That's my biggest fear in American politics right now. Some ape-#### crazy Tea Partier taking a shot at Obama. Calling themselves a "patriot" for ending the tyrannical reign of a President that only a majority of Americans have voted for twice in the past 4+ years...just because a majority of their friends and the members of their congregation feel differently. Instead of calling themselves what they are: terrorists. 100-times more dangerous to the future of our nation as al-Qaeda is (and will ever be).

Way to make yourself look as crazy as the secession-supporters who inspired this thread.

 

[BassNBrew]

These people really are out of their minds and the right-wing propaganda machine needs to take ownership of this hysteria and stop it. Somebody's going to take a shot at Obama if they don't get this under control. It's completely Roger Ailes/Limbaugh/Beck generated. Completely. Enough already.

I'm shocked nobody's taken a shot yet to be honest.

That's my biggest fear in American politics right now. Some ape-#### crazy Tea Partier taking a shot at Obama. Calling themselves a "patriot" for ending the tyrannical reign of a President that only a majority of Americans have voted for twice in the past 4+ years...just because a majority of their friends and the members of their congregation feel differently. Instead of calling themselves what they are: terrorists. 100-times more dangerous to the future of our nation as al-Qaeda is (and will ever be).

Not advocating anything, but if forced to choose between all the lives the tea-partiers have taken plus Obama's vs. all the lives al-Qaeda has taken would be pretty easy. Your post is foolish at best.

 

[dparker713]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

I'm cool with making a deal to have them all pile into a Texas and let them have at it. But that's that. Once you're out, you're out. Renouncing citizenship is one thing...promoting succession is a smell ya later endeavor.

This. You leave, it's a one-way trip. No "whoops, my bad...I was only kidding." You leave, you give up all rights/claims of citizenship, your social security card (no "green card" issued to you either), etc. If you're going to "resign" as an American citizen, your job/seat won't be waiting for you once you are begging to come back. And if some other nation invades the Republic? Don't expect the US military to come to your rescue. But then you won't need it...what with all those bunkers and guns...

And you forgot that they'd all need to disclaim any social security benefits too.

No need to form a new country for that, I'll do that today if I can quit paying in.

Funny how people are claiming people will miss things when they leave, when it's those things that are their motivation for wanting to leave.

Oh, and we'll want all our military assets first too.

 

[EYLive]

I can see their point. Obama sucks and we're all screwed for 4 more years. But secession is bonkers. Hope and change in 2016 I guess.

 

[Mark Davis]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

I'm cool with making a deal to have them all pile into a Texas and let them have at it. But that's that. Once you're out, you're out. Renouncing citizenship is one thing...promoting succession is a smell ya later endeavor.

This. You leave, it's a one-way trip. No "whoops, my bad...I was only kidding." You leave, you give up all rights/claims of citizenship, your social security card (no "green card" issued to you either), etc. If you're going to "resign" as an American citizen, your job/seat won't be waiting for you once you are begging to come back. And if some other nation invades the Republic? Don't expect the US military to come to your rescue. But then you won't need it...what with all those bunkers and guns...

And you forgot that they'd all need to disclaim any social security benefits too.

No need to form a new country for that, I'll do that today if I can quit paying in.

Funny how people are claiming people will miss things when they leave, when it's those things that are their motivation for wanting to leave.

Oh, and we'll want all our military assets first too.

We? You making policy these days? If so please sign me up for your social security offer. I know the petition stuff is nonsense but I'll take care of my own finances, TIA. By the way, I love your country. I just love it for the freedom it gives me, not for the entitlements.

 

[roadkill1292]

How would the new Red State Nation have any good football teams after they disenfranchise their black people and don't let them go to college?

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I can see their point. Obama sucks and we're all screwed for 4 more years. But secession is bonkers. Hope and change in 2016 I guess.

And if a Republican, or God forbid a third party candidate wins, we get to hear the other half of the country go all crazy.

 

[Juxtatarot]

If any state wanted to pay off their per capita share of the U.S. debt, I'd be Ok with secession. But they'd have to pay in U.S. Dollars up front. And they'd lose their social security, medicare, and other federal payments.

 

[Politician Spock]

So which one's do we want to see let go. Alabama and Mississippi are a given.

I'm cool with making a deal to have them all pile into a Texas and let them have at it. But that's that. Once you're out, you're out. Renouncing citizenship is one thing...promoting succession is a smell ya later endeavor.

This. You leave, it's a one-way trip. No "whoops, my bad...I was only kidding." You leave, you give up all rights/claims of citizenship, your social security card (no "green card" issued to you either), etc. If you're going to "resign" as an American citizen, your job/seat won't be waiting for you once you are begging to come back. And if some other nation invades the Republic? Don't expect the US military to come to your rescue. But then you won't need it...what with all those bunkers and guns...

And you forgot that they'd all need to disclaim any social security benefits too.

No need to form a new country for that, I'll do that today if I can quit paying in.

Funny how people are claiming people will miss things when they leave, when it's those things that are their motivation for wanting to leave.

Oh, and we'll want all our military assets first too.

And with it continue being the world's police force. The seceding states will be more than happy staying out of other countries business.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I can see their point. Obama sucks and we're all screwed for 4 more years. But secession is bonkers. Hope and change in 2016 I guess.

And if a Republican, or God forbid a third party candidate wins, we get to hear the other half of the country go all crazy.

The left just likes to shout and paint pretty signs. The right builds bunkers and buys weapons.

They are all nuts. By my calculations there are only about 47 sane people left in the country.

 

[Gr00vus]

How would the new Red State Nation have any good football teams after they disenfranchise their black people and don't let them go to college?

Their answer would start with s and end with y.

 

[Mark Davis]

If any state wanted to pay off their per capita share of the U.S. debt, I'd be Ok with secession. But they'd have to pay in U.S. Dollars up front. And they'd lose their social security, medicare, and other federal payments.

Sadly, regardless of what anyone wants to believe, both the left and the right have what is truly "their fair share" in that burden. The word conservative came to mean more social than fiscal and the right in my eyes lost its way when that happened.

 

[Gr00vus]

If any state wanted to pay off their per capita share of the U.S. debt, I'd be Ok with secession. But they'd have to pay in U.S. Dollars up front. And they'd lose their social security, medicare, and other federal payments.

Sadly, regardless of what anyone wants to believe, both the left and the right have what is truly "their fair share" in that burden. The word conservative came to mean more social than fiscal and the right in my eyes lost its way when that happened.

The Southern Strategy - was it worth it in the long run?

 

[Mark Davis]

How would the new Red State Nation have any good football teams after they disenfranchise their black people and don't let them go to college?

Their answer would start with s and end with y.

Yep because the south has a stranglehold on racism. I'm glad none exist anywhere else.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

How about this: we split up the country into two halves, Red and Blue. You can choose to live in either half, but once you've chosen you can't switch. We have a 20-year peace treaty with each other. After the 20 years is up, we immediately go into a planned Civil War. Winner take all.

 

[Politician Spock]

How would the new Red State Nation have any good football teams after they disenfranchise their black people and don't let them go to college?

Their answer would start with s and end with y.

They are slaves right now

 

[Mark Davis]

If any state wanted to pay off their per capita share of the U.S. debt, I'd be Ok with secession. But they'd have to pay in U.S. Dollars up front. And they'd lose their social security, medicare, and other federal payments.

Sadly, regardless of what anyone wants to believe, both the left and the right have what is truly "their fair share" in that burden. The word conservative came to mean more social than fiscal and the right in my eyes lost its way when that happened.

The Southern Strategy - was it worth it in the long run?

From Rove? Of course not. I didn't vote for G.W. Bush anyway. I think it's foolish to wedge issue a narrow demographic win that is bound to turn on you inside of 20 years. I think the Republican Party has a lot of work to do to fix the issue. In my view they need to work on bringing more Latinos into the party and being more accepting of those who differ from them socially. Honestly I don't care about the Republican Party per se, I just want a party that would stand for fiscal conservatism while staying out of people's bedrooms. (I borrowed Giuliani's line but couldn't agree more with him)