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Seeing Hines upset on SC this morning (2 Viewers)

Hi Bloom,

"Done without it" is a way of saying he'd have been better off if he didn't do it. 

I do agree that there are things worth crying over. I believe a Football game or your teammate retiring are not one of those things.

J
So what is cry-worthy? You don't have friends or co-workers who you have developed relationships with that you might cry over if that relationship was altered? I just don't like this charaterization that a man can't show his emotions openly.
Hi KT,Good question. Not sure you can "list" the "good" reasons to cry but off the top of my head, I'd say things like: Loss of a loved one. Serious harm or injury to a loved one. Terribly sad situation like the Tsunami. That type of thing.

Losing a friggin football game and the possibility that a teammate might retire don't come close to making the list for me.

But that's just me. And again, I'm still a Ward fan.

J
Who the hell is to say when the "right" time to cry is? His emotions were still riding high. I'm with everyone on this board who bumped him up a notch for his heart. Why is crying a sign of weakness? I'm sure he didn't want to cry but he just couldn't help it. He had no control of it.

It's refreshing to see some real emotion as opposed to cliches and canned responses. Wish more were like him.

Signed,

A MA native and Pats fan.

 
Why is crying a sign of weakness?
I don't think anyone said it was a sign of weakness, I just don't see why you guys would put him up on a pedestal for crying.
To me it's because he has heart. That's all.
Hines Ward had heart long before his little breakdown. I didn't think anyone would have questioned that.
"His little breakdown." That is derogatory comment in my view. As if he was less than a man. I disagree with this. If I made the wrong assumption please disregard.Also, I'm not "putting him on a pedestal." I'm just acknowledging that he allowed himself to express what he was really feeling, when, in light of popular opinion, might not be perceived as manly or tough.
 
Why is crying a sign of weakness?
I don't think anyone said it was a sign of weakness, I just don't see why you guys would put him up on a pedestal for crying.
To me it's because he has heart. That's all.
Hines Ward had heart long before his little breakdown. I didn't think anyone would have questioned that.
Hines was and still is my favorite player. He does a show on WDVE Tuesday nights with Tunch Ilkin (Steeler Offensive Lineman from the 80's now a broadcaster) and DeShea Townsend (current DB for Steelers) and I think Hines is a class act. He plays WR with the attitude of a LB. I don't like him more for crying and I'm not going to put him on a pedestal for crying, but I have no problem whatsoever with him showing his emotions and I think he was being genuine about his feelings.

I rarely cry. When my Mom died, when a good friend died of child birth at the age of 24, and certain movies have made me tear up some. I was watching Hiroshima, out of the ashes the other night. When the boy tells his friend's mother that her son is dead... Good movie.

 
This might be just a football game to us, but to these guys, this is life.  This is what they wake up for everyday.  This is what they live for.  For many of us, our profession is a big part of who we are, and let me tell you, Hines Ward is a football player.  A Pittsburgh Steeler.editted for content....
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Sorry, I haven't seen a professional football player cry like a woman after losing a game in quite some time. Just because Hines Ward is an overly emotional guy, or he can't control himself or whatever, that doesn't mean he wanted it any more than anyone else.It just means he is incapable of keeping his emotions in check.Kind of like me, back when I was 6 years old and I didn't get my way.
Please don't use me as a spring board for promoting your personal agenda. I was merely acknowledging an example of writing that I thought summed up the situation in an eloquent manner and provided a fitting epitaph to the end of a dream and a season.
 
I'm not ashamed to say that I've teared up when saying goodbye to long-time co-workers. If others think that's "####-wad" or a sign of emotional instability, so be it.As for Ward, ask the other 31 HCs in the NFL if they'd want him on their teams. I'm a Ravens fan & have to officially despise the Steelers, but I love watching Ward play (I actually like several of the Steelers as individual players - Bettis, Staley, Ben, ARE....). I'd love to have he & his uncheckable, 6 yo emotions in Baltimore.

 
Hi Bloom,

"Done without it" is a way of saying he'd have been better off if he didn't do it. 

I do agree that there are things worth crying over. I believe a Football game or your teammate retiring are not one of those things.

J
So what is cry-worthy? You don't have friends or co-workers who you have developed relationships with that you might cry over if that relationship was altered? I just don't like this charaterization that a man can't show his emotions openly.
Hi KT,Good question. Not sure you can "list" the "good" reasons to cry but off the top of my head, I'd say things like: Loss of a loved one. Serious harm or injury to a loved one. Terribly sad situation like the Tsunami. That type of thing.

Losing a friggin football game and the possibility that a teammate might retire don't come close to making the list for me.

But that's just me. And again, I'm still a Ward fan.

J
Who the hell is to say when the "right" time to cry is?
Hi cunk,I am. Because Kilgore asked me.

J

 
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Interesting that this little bit by Ward is getting so much attention. I think that is a tribute to how rare it is to see a Pro athlete loss control of their emotions though.My take on it. Ward is a Pro and should not have let this happen. Yeah its great to know he loves the Steelers and his sport, but he is supposed to maintain a professional apperance. Does this make me dislike Ward or lose any respect for him, not at all. There does however seem to be many double standards floating around regarding this topic though. The main one being that it is acceptable for Ward to lose control of his emotions becasue he is a "well liked" player. Where as it is unacceptable for guys like Moss, Winslow, TO, ect to do so becasue the results are less PC and they are teh labeled "bad boys." Are you telling me that Moss walking off the field wasn't an emotion to what had just happened? Or Winslow's outburst wasn't emotion as well? Ward let his emotions get out of control here, no 2 ways about it. This was mainly in response to Bettis' situation. But here is the thing. He and Bettis are best friends. Are you telling me that this situation is suddenly a big surprise to him? Hell I don't know Bettis personally and even I was well aware of this. Seems there was a better time and place for this emotional outburst.I think we'd all be better off just understanding and knowing that football and sports in general are emotional events. Not just for fans, but for players as well. At times these deep emotions will get the best of players (some more than other) and the results will trigger a bunch of responses. What some find intollerable others find funny and so on and so forth. It does however seem bias though to glorify some players for their emotional attechment and castrate others for it.

 

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