Seeing Hines upset on SC this morning (1 Viewer)

[BGP]

I don't understand this obsession with calling anything that steps outside the bounds of a button-down corporate politically correct approach not classy.This is football. There are rivalrys. Browns hate Steelers. Redskins hate Cowboys.The way some people act on here, its utterly wrong and classless for there to even BE a rivalry. What are we supposed to do? All hug each other? Should the home crowd cheer for their team AND the visitor?Its making me hate the entire concept of having class, and I'm not sure I like that.

Given that every recent steeler related thread has been poluted with yours and crackdaddy crap I'm not one bit surpised that you don't understand why it's annoying. There's a time and a place for everything. Yes, there is room for trash talk in the shark pool. IT JUST DOES NOT NEED TO BE IN EVERY ####### THREAD RELATED TO A CERTAIN TEAM.

Most of what I've said about the Steelers is honest analysis. I've ripped on their flaws just like most every other team. And surprise! They are out.For the last time, I don't mix personal bias with my analysis. If I did that, I would never say Bill Belichick is a great coach and I'd never pick the Patriots to win it all.We can put that to bed.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I didn't say he said anything stupid.Anger and sadness are both perfectly understandable emotions after a tough loss.

You can let your emotion get the best of you, and then as a result do any number of different things. I don't think anyone is really going to bash someone for getting emotional (as long as it isnt too often) -- it's what they do as a result that you should be bashed or not bashed on. KWII said something really dumb. Hines is emotional for his teammate. Not the same thing.

But, if you're going to allow one player's emotions to get the best of him (and use that as the reason for his subsequent behavior), then I think you should use that same standard for everybody.

Example: you get fired from you job -- as soon as your boss tells you...Situation one: You get angry and tell teh boss all the stuff that you've been wanting to tell him for 2 years. Situation two: You punch him in the teeth. You should use the same standard of "letting emotions get the best of you" here?

 

[aaronr28]

Example: you get fired from you job -- as soon as your boss tells you...Situation one: You get angry and tell teh boss all the stuff that you've been wanting to tell him for 2 years. Situation two: You punch him in the teeth. You should use the same standard of "letting emotions get the best of you" here?

bad example: one involved physical violence, which is a crime.anyway, I don't want to get into an argument about this. I just was offering some thoughts I had on the situation.

 

[Nigel]

I didn't see the interview, but I heard it on the radio on the way into work. I laughed my ### off.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

bad example: one involved physical violence, which is a crime.anyway, I don't want to get into an argument about this. I just was offering some thoughts I had on the situation.

I'm not arguing, just discussing. I was not trying to make the 2 situations analogous to Ward/KWII -- I'm just trying to uderstand your "emotional standard" you're applying. IMO -- Getting upset and speaking the truth or a humble opinion != getting upset and saying something really stupid.

 

[Joe Bryant]

you guys implying that hines was trying to be dramatic? my impression of the clip was that he was just overwhelmed with emotion when he started he thinking about it, nothing intentional at all.

Hi Bloom,I don't think anyone would say he was trying to be dramatic. I think it was as I said above, a thing where there are 20 hungry reporters looking for the story and a crying star footballball player is a home run story for them. Other people's emotional pain is now news story #1.Ward was obviously uncomfortable. I bet he would have stopped the interview in a heartbeat if he could have done so. But he's a classy enough guy not to be rude and cut out. It just sorta gradually got out of control. I definitely don't think it was anything he tried to orchestrate. The opposite actually.I just could have done without seeing a grown man crying over a football game and Jerome Bettis retiring. That's all I'm saying. Not ripping him for it. Just saying I could have done without it. In part, because Ward's been one of my favorite players since he was at Georgia. Defines a tough guy WR and player.J

 

[aaronr28]

I'm not arguing, just discussing.  I was not trying to make the 2 situations analogous to Ward/KWII  -- I'm just trying to uderstand your "emotional standard" you're applying.  IMO  --  Getting upset and speaking the truth or a humble opinion  != getting upset and saying something really stupid.

Situation #1: Player A is upset after a devastating loss and starts bawling his eyes out on camera, acting like somebody died.Reaction: "Wow, that guy is all heart. He cares so much about winning and his teammates, that he is just an emotional wreck and letting his emotions get the best of him is completely understandable (and admirable). I'd take him on my team anytime!"Situation #2: Player B is upset after a devastating loss and gets upset at the questions a reporter asks and says some stupid things he later regrets.Reaction: "Wow, that guy is a complete idiot. I would never want him on my team. I can't believe he would say something so freaking stupid. I don't care how emotional he was...you just don't say something like that, ever."

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

If situations #1 and #2 were the only criteria we had to judge these people on, then I concede it would seem a little strange and double standard. However, outside of these two situations you've outlined -- for 5+ years Hines has shown himself to be a hard working, humble, team player and all around good guy. KWII has shown himself to be more or less a jackass in all the press I've seen from him. I think it's human nature to cut people some slack or keep them on a shorter leash, depending on what kind of person they've proven themselves to be in the past.

 

[Gargoylez]

Thats freindship, team loyalty and understanding about the team around him, and the players around him.Hines Ward just jumped up my top list of favorite players BIG TIME.In the time of Moss's and owen's... this was inspiring and refreshing. Hines Ward

 

[protoslacker]

"Thre's no crying in football."

Wha!? **** Vermeil.

 

[rhawkins68]

HIJACKYou guys seriously need to watch a PATS home game - you also just gotta look around your local city and see how many rubes have come out of hiding since 2001 - or as you would call them bandwagonjumpersWhile on this message board there are some non-average pat fans who do provide insightful analysis and insight (and are even classy about their team) the majority of street PAT fans that you find in your own local city or at your job or see at Gilette are all unbelievably arrogant.Trust me it doesn't stop if and when these PATS are labelled a Dynasty - next all the bandwagoners are gonna say that this Dynasty was the greatest dynasty of all time.END HIJACK

I am a Cowboys fan and have been to a patriots game in Foxboro with my Jersey on. To tell you the truth I was alot more comftable there than at other venues I have watched games in. It was a very pleasent experience except for the loss. So unless you have been to a game and talked and met with alot of fans then don't give them such a hard time. My impression of NE fans is they are taking alot of pride in the team. To bad there going to match the Cowboys 3 in 4 record while we still struggle.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Interesting comments here. So if I am to believe the Shark Pool Steelers fans have no passion for football, they leave blowout losses early. Steelers players have too much passion for football, sharing their emotion publicly after a teammate (who is a sure HOF'er) says he may retire without ever making a trip to the SB.My two cents, unless you've trained with teammates and competed in a sport at its highest level you have no idea how you'd react in this situation.

 

[Urinal Mint]

I live in central Texas, so I'm bombarded with the worst bandwagon jumpers of all time - Cowboy fans, Longhorn fans, and Spurs fans.

Now it's clear why you have undying love for Benson and Young EDIT: And soon, Ryan Perriloux

 

[Joe Bryant]

Interesting comments here. So if I am to believe the Shark Pool Steelers fans have no passion for football, they leave blowout losses early. Steelers players have too much passion for football, sharing their emotion publicly after a teammate (who is a sure HOF'er) says he may retire without ever making a trip to the SB.My two cents, unless you've trained with teammates and competed in a sport at its highest level you have no idea how you'd react in this situation.

Hi Frenchy,Can't really comment on anything but the blowout loss thing. As far as it goes for the game Sunday - that's an indisputable fact that tons of people left early. We all saw it on the field goal attempts. I've talked to several proud Steeler fans who were embarrased by it.I don't know how you came up with the other stuff but I don't think I'd agree there.J

 

[KGB]

I don't understand this obsession with calling anything that steps outside the bounds of a button-down corporate politically correct approach not classy.This is football. There are rivalrys. Browns hate Steelers. Redskins hate Cowboys.The way some people act on here, its utterly wrong and classless for there to even BE a rivalry. What are we supposed to do? All hug each other? Should the home crowd cheer for their team AND the visitor?Its making me hate the entire concept of having class, and I'm not sure I like that.

You seriously need to watch an interview with any PATS player especially any of the following1) Brady2) Brown3) Belicheck4) harrisonThe word respect is thrown around like nothing. They respect everyone, always know that they have to work hard and that on any given day they can be beat.However than you have the flip side - 1) signing a guy like Dillon who openly criticizes the Bengals anytime the mic is at his mouth2) Not showing some restraint when a game is well in hand - mocking great fans of a great organization - In essence why I am so pi$$ed about the mocking is because most fans were leaving the stadium anyways and Branch and Co we're essentially looking at them waving towels as in a sense to say "GO HOME!!!"To me that is not respectI've never seen another organization do this to fans that we're knowingly beat - even when Randy Moss was trash talking fans in GB the game was only in the 3rd quarter.

Dillon has been nothing but perfect in regards to his time in NE. Did you know that Ne interviewed him before they traded for him. His agent told Dillon "these guys think your a bad apple, go prove to them your not" (or something along those lines).as for the end of the game, yea, pretty classless. But all things considered, the pats have been a class org even after becoming a good team. The real test will be the interviews during the next 2 weeks. It will be tough for these guys to keep thier mouths shut.As for Ward, I'll take him any day of the week.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Interesting comments here.  So if I am to believe the Shark Pool Steelers fans have no passion for football,  they leave blowout losses early.  Steelers players have too much passion for football, sharing their emotion publicly after a teammate (who is a sure HOF'er) says he may retire without ever making a trip to the SB.My two cents,  unless you've trained with teammates and competed in a sport at its highest level you have no idea how you'd react in this situation.

Hi Frenchy,Can't really comment on anything but the blowout loss thing. As far as it goes for the game Sunday - that's an indisputable fact that tons of people left early. We all saw it on the field goal attempts. I've talked to several proud Steeler fans who were embarrased by it.I don't know how you came up with the other stuff but I don't think I'd agree there.J

Joe- My point is that it is easy for each of us to sit in a recliner and say "Man I can't believe Hines Ward is crying about football. I can't believe 10,000 fans left a game early." All are signs of incredible frustration. The old saying "Don't judge a man unless you've walked a mile in his shoes" flies here.

 

[Fullback Fro]

I'm sorry for what I said. I didn't mean for it to turn into a gang war. That just happens to be one of my favorite lines from the movies and I usually say it when ever the opportunity presents itself. I realize that Hines Ward is a great player and deserves much respect. I realize that football is just as much about emotion as it is talent. Jerome Bettis will greatly be missed if he does indeed retire. I'm truely sorry if I offended anyone with my wise-crack.:rodneyking: "Can't we all just get along?" :rodneyking:

I though it was funny.

 

[Mr.Happy]

Hines Ward can be a ##### on the field, but the guys that play harder and want it more then him are few and far between.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Interesting comments here.  So if I am to believe the Shark Pool Steelers fans have no passion for football,  they leave blowout losses early.  Steelers players have too much passion for football, sharing their emotion publicly after a teammate (who is a sure HOF'er) says he may retire without ever making a trip to the SB.My two cents,  unless you've trained with teammates and competed in a sport at its highest level you have no idea how you'd react in this situation.

Hi Frenchy,Can't really comment on anything but the blowout loss thing. As far as it goes for the game Sunday - that's an indisputable fact that tons of people left early. We all saw it on the field goal attempts. I've talked to several proud Steeler fans who were embarrased by it.I don't know how you came up with the other stuff but I don't think I'd agree there.J

Joe- My point is that it is easy for each of us to sit in a recliner and say "Man I can't believe Hines Ward is crying about football. I can't believe 10,000 fans left a game early." All are signs of incredible frustration. The old saying "Don't judge a man unless you've walked a mile in his shoes" flies here.

Hi Frenchy,I'm with ya Bro. I take that line a lot when guys are ripping the broadcasting teams - it's harder than it looks and until you've tried it you don't really know.But on the other hand, if we go too far with that, we don't have anyone talking about the game except for former players and coaches. And that would make the Shark Pool a pretty small place. But I hear you.J

 

[Jason Wood]

Interesting comments here. So if I am to believe the Shark Pool Steelers fans have no passion for football, they leave blowout losses early. Steelers players have too much passion for football, sharing their emotion publicly after a teammate (who is a sure HOF'er) says he may retire without ever making a trip to the SB.My two cents, unless you've trained with teammates and competed in a sport at its highest level you have no idea how you'd react in this situation.

Hi Frenchy,Can't really comment on anything but the blowout loss thing. As far as it goes for the game Sunday - that's an indisputable fact that tons of people left early. We all saw it on the field goal attempts. I've talked to several proud Steeler fans who were embarrased by it.I don't know how you came up with the other stuff but I don't think I'd agree there.J

Joe- My point is that it is easy for each of us to sit in a recliner and say "Man I can't believe Hines Ward is crying about football. I can't believe 10,000 fans left a game early." All are signs of incredible frustration. The old saying "Don't judge a man unless you've walked a mile in his shoes" flies here.

Hey Frenchy,As one of the people who thought critically of the Steelers leaving early, I can honestly say I HAVE walked a mile in their shoes. Each of the last two years I went through the same thing, and nothing would've gotten me to leave early...As to the Ward thing, I've no comment. Ward is a warrior, a tough guy and a consumate professional; whether he cried or not is immaterial to my view of him.

 

[Bloom]

Just saying I could have done without it. In part, because Ward's been one of my favorite players since he was at Georgia. Defines a tough guy WR and player.J

what does "done without it" mean? does it make you uncomfortable to see a man cry?

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Interesting comments here.  So if I am to believe the Shark Pool Steelers fans have no passion for football,  they leave blowout losses early.  Steelers players have too much passion for football, sharing their emotion publicly after a teammate (who is a sure HOF'er) says he may retire without ever making a trip to the SB.My two cents,  unless you've trained with teammates and competed in a sport at its highest level you have no idea how you'd react in this situation.

Hi Frenchy,Can't really comment on anything but the blowout loss thing. As far as it goes for the game Sunday - that's an indisputable fact that tons of people left early. We all saw it on the field goal attempts. I've talked to several proud Steeler fans who were embarrased by it.I don't know how you came up with the other stuff but I don't think I'd agree there.J

Joe- My point is that it is easy for each of us to sit in a recliner and say "Man I can't believe Hines Ward is crying about football. I can't believe 10,000 fans left a game early." All are signs of incredible frustration. The old saying "Don't judge a man unless you've walked a mile in his shoes" flies here.

Hey Frenchy,As one of the people who thought critically of the Steelers leaving early, I can honestly say I HAVE walked a mile in their shoes. Each of the last two years I went through the same thing, and nothing would've gotten me to leave early...As to the Ward thing, I've no comment. Ward is a warrior, a tough guy and a consumate professional; whether he cried or not is immaterial to my view of him.

J-Wood,You've walked half a mile in our shoes. Eagles- 2 losses at home in NFC ChampionshipSteelers- 4 losses at home in AFC Championship

 

[Jason Wood]

Interesting comments here. So if I am to believe the Shark Pool Steelers fans have no passion for football, they leave blowout losses early. Steelers players have too much passion for football, sharing their emotion publicly after a teammate (who is a sure HOF'er) says he may retire without ever making a trip to the SB.My two cents, unless you've trained with teammates and competed in a sport at its highest level you have no idea how you'd react in this situation.

Hi Frenchy,Can't really comment on anything but the blowout loss thing. As far as it goes for the game Sunday - that's an indisputable fact that tons of people left early. We all saw it on the field goal attempts. I've talked to several proud Steeler fans who were embarrased by it.I don't know how you came up with the other stuff but I don't think I'd agree there.J

Joe- My point is that it is easy for each of us to sit in a recliner and say "Man I can't believe Hines Ward is crying about football. I can't believe 10,000 fans left a game early." All are signs of incredible frustration. The old saying "Don't judge a man unless you've walked a mile in his shoes" flies here.

Hey Frenchy,As one of the people who thought critically of the Steelers leaving early, I can honestly say I HAVE walked a mile in their shoes. Each of the last two years I went through the same thing, and nothing would've gotten me to leave early...As to the Ward thing, I've no comment. Ward is a warrior, a tough guy and a consumate professional; whether he cried or not is immaterial to my view of him.

J-Wood,You've walked half a mile in our shoes. Eagles- 2 losses at home in NFC ChampionshipSteelers- 4 losses at home in AFC Championship

Fair enough...fair enough.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Just saying I could have done without it. In part, because Ward's been one of my favorite players since he was at Georgia. Defines a tough guy WR and player.J

what does "done without it" mean? does it make you uncomfortable to see a man cry?

Hi Bloom,"Done without it" is a way of saying he'd have been better off if he didn't do it. I do agree that there are things worth crying over. I believe a Football game or your teammate retiring are not one of those things.J

 

[3MTA3]

Just saying I could have done without it. In part, because Ward's been one of my favorite players since he was at Georgia. Defines a tough guy WR and player.J

what does "done without it" mean? does it make you uncomfortable to see a man cry?

Hi Bloom,"Done without it" is a way of saying he'd have been better off if he didn't do it. I do agree that there are things worth crying over. I believe a Football game or your teammate retiring are not one of those things.J

And the circle continuesAll just a matter of opinion. Personally, I can relate to working so hard for a goal and just falling short. I can admit they I myself shed a few tears in my personal situation. Does the fact that there's cameras there make it wrong? I say no.Hines is no less of a man in my book

 

[Bloom]

Just saying I could have done without it. In part, because Ward's been one of my favorite players since he was at Georgia. Defines a tough guy WR and player.J

what does "done without it" mean? does it make you uncomfortable to see a man cry?

Hi Bloom,"Done without it" is a way of saying he'd have been better off if he didn't do it. I do agree that there are things worth crying over. I believe a Football game or your teammate retiring are not one of those things.J

i see your point, maybe he'll take some flak for it - but i would submit that hines ward would not have all the other qualities that you like about him if he also wasnt a guy that would cry in that situation - i dont think you can surgically remove one kind of intensity from a person and leave the rest intact.edit to add: i think that what really made hines cry was the feeling that the team had let down a player that he/they owed a lot to - they wanted to come through for him because of all he's done for them, and not doing it really hurt.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Hi Bloom,"Done without it" is a way of saying he'd have been better off if he didn't do it. I do agree that there are things worth crying over. I believe a Football game or your teammate retiring are not one of those things.J

So what is cry-worthy? You don't have friends or co-workers who you have developed relationships with that you might cry over if that relationship was altered? I just don't like this charaterization that a man can't show his emotions openly.

 

[pinequick]

I'm sorry for what I said. I didn't mean for it to turn into a gang war. That just happens to be one of my favorite lines from the movies and I usually say it when ever the opportunity presents itself. I realize that Hines Ward is a great player and deserves much respect. I realize that football is just as much about emotion as it is talent. Jerome Bettis will greatly be missed if he does indeed retire. I'm truely sorry if I offended anyone with my wise-crack.:rodneyking: "Can't we all just get along?" :rodneyking:

I totally got your joke the first time. Chuckled to myself--it's mildly humorous (and an apt reference to a funny movie). And I couldn't care less about he Pats or the Steelers.LIGHTEN UP, FOLKS. . .

 

[Steel City]

Plaxico Burress (twenty minutes after the loss when asked if that was his last game with the Steelers): "Probably so." Then he added, "It's Pittsburgh, which speaks for itself. They're not going to change. I'm not going to change. Three or four balls just doesn't suit me very well."Hines Ward (when asked about Burress' comments minutes later): "That's far from what I'm thinking about right now. I'm not thinking about next year and who's going to be here."Lawyer Malloy on if he regrets leaving the Patriots: "You can't put food on the table with a Super Bowl ring" (or something like that).Hines Ward: Emotionally spent, breaks down and cries over missing out on his dream to play in the Super Bowl. Thinking about not only himself, but his team-mates. Yeah, this is a terrible thing we just witnessed. Shame on him. This might be just a football game to us, but to these guys, this is life. This is what they wake up for everyday. This is what they live for. For many of us, our profession is a big part of who we are, and let me tell you, Hines Ward is a football player. A Pittsburgh Steeler.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

"Thre's no crying in football."

I agree, and I'm a HUGE fan of Hines Ward.This is supposed to be the toughest WR in football, which leads you to believe all WRs are ####-wads.It's not like anybody died.It's not like the Bus is RETIRING. He's moving on.Good gracious, get a grip Hines Ward.

 

[Budman]

Just saying I could have done without it. In part, because Ward's been one of my favorite players since he was at Georgia. Defines a tough guy WR and player.

J

what does "done without it" mean? does it make you uncomfortable to see a man cry?

Hi Bloom,"Done without it" is a way of saying he'd have been better off if he didn't do it.

I do agree that there are things worth crying over. I believe a Football game or your teammate retiring are not one of those things.

J

i see your point, maybe he'll take some flak for it - but i would submit that hines ward would not have all the other qualities that you like about him if he also wasnt a guy that would cry in that situation - i dont think you can surgically remove one kind of intensity from a person and leave the rest intact.edit to add: i think that what really made hines cry was the feeling that the team had let down a player that he/they owed a lot to - they wanted to come through for him because of all he's done for them, and not doing it really hurt.

Isn't it tough enough in this world to figure out what someone is saying, or what someone meant when they use english?.... but now we are trying to interpret TEARS........geeezzzz.

This topic is out of control. Enough already! I can't believe this is an issue of this magnatude to warrant three pages and yes I wasted my time to read and respond to this thread. I like "J" could have done without seeing the episode. I must not be in touch with my feminine side. I don't like seeing grown men cry in any circumstance ie. death in the family etc. and hope I never do get used to seeing it. No right here...no wrong....just don't care to see a grown man cry.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!:humor:

 

[nightshift]

"Thre's no crying in football."

Here's another typical PAT fan (classless) - Hines is a great guy - No need to come down on him at all

Really, this ain't call for.Show a tenth of the class Hines has shown.

 

[Peyton Marino]

"Thre's no crying in football."

Here's another typical PAT fan (classless) - Hines is a great guy - No need to come down on him at all

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

 

[4thAndForever]

I don't see why Hines Ward is so upset. After all, didn't he "basically" make it to the Super Bowl in 2001?

 

[4thAndForever]

"Thre's no crying in football."

I agree, and I'm a HUGE fan of Hines Ward.This is supposed to be the toughest WR in football, which leads you to believe all WRs are ####-wads.It's not like anybody died.It's not like the Bus is RETIRING. He's moving on.Good gracious, get a grip Hines Ward.

Seriously.Sorry, but just because this guy can't keep his emotions in check, I'm not going to feel bad for him. You think this guy wanted to win any more than Peyton Manning, Donnie Edwards, or Patrick Kearney? I doubt it. Those other guys just have a better grip on their emotions.

 

[Da Good Da Bad an Da Ugly]

This might be just a football game to us, but to these guys, this is life. This is what they wake up for everyday. This is what they live for. For many of us, our profession is a big part of who we are, and let me tell you, Hines Ward is a football player. A Pittsburgh Steeler.editted for content....

 

[4thAndForever]

This might be just a football game to us, but to these guys, this is life. This is what they wake up for everyday. This is what they live for. For many of us, our profession is a big part of who we are, and let me tell you, Hines Ward is a football player. A Pittsburgh Steeler.editted for content....

Sorry, I haven't seen a professional football player cry like a woman after losing a game in quite some time. Just because Hines Ward is an overly emotional guy, or he can't control himself or whatever, that doesn't mean he wanted it any more than anyone else.It just means he is incapable of keeping his emotions in check.Kind of like me, back when I was 6 years old and I didn't get my way.

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

Sorry, but just because this guy can't keep his emotions in check, I'm not going to feel bad for him. You think this guy wanted to win any more than Peyton Manning, Donnie Edwards, or Patrick Kearney? I doubt it. Those other guys just have a better grip on their emotions.

^Most rediculous post ever. There is no scale to measure the will to win. Please

 

[Joe Bryant]

Sorry, but just because this guy can't keep his emotions in check, I'm not going to feel bad for him. You think this guy wanted to win any more than Peyton Manning, Donnie Edwards, or Patrick Kearney? I doubt it. Those other guys just have a better grip on their emotions.

^Most rediculous post ever. There is no scale to measure the will to win. Please

Hi So,Sure there is. Guys like Ward have it in droves. Plax, not so much. Desire to win / excel is fairly easy to spot. Most coaches will tell you that.J

 

[Joe Bryant]

Hi Bloom,

"Done without it" is a way of saying he'd have been better off if he didn't do it. 

I do agree that there are things worth crying over. I believe a Football game or your teammate retiring are not one of those things.

J

So what is cry-worthy? You don't have friends or co-workers who you have developed relationships with that you might cry over if that relationship was altered? I just don't like this charaterization that a man can't show his emotions openly.

Hi KT,Good question. Not sure you can "list" the "good" reasons to cry but off the top of my head, I'd say things like: Loss of a loved one. Serious harm or injury to a loved one. Terribly sad situation like the Tsunami. That type of thing.

Losing a friggin football game and the possibility that a teammate might retire don't come close to making the list for me.

But that's just me. And again, I'm still a Ward fan.

J

 

[4thAndForever]

Sorry, but just because this guy can't keep his emotions in check, I'm not going to feel bad for him. You think this guy wanted to win any more than Peyton Manning, Donnie Edwards, or Patrick Kearney? I doubt it. Those other guys just have a better grip on their emotions.

^Most rediculous post ever. There is no scale to measure the will to win. Please

Who's trying to measure? All I am saying is that those guys probably wanted to win every bit as much as Ward did. They just didn't feel the need to cry about it.

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

Hi So,Sure there is. Guys like Ward have it in droves. Plax, not so much. Desire to win / excel is fairly easy to spot. Most coaches will tell you that.J

I agree totally in that case. I guess I should have specified...When comparing in a field of good attitudes, there is no definite way to decide who wants it more so than the others. I understand completely that there are exceptions who want money more than wins.

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

Sorry, but just because this guy can't keep his emotions in check, I'm not going to feel bad for him.  You think this guy wanted to win any more than Peyton Manning, Donnie Edwards, or Patrick Kearney?  I doubt it.  Those other guys just have a better grip on their emotions.

^Most rediculous post ever. There is no scale to measure the will to win. Please

Who's trying to measure? All I am saying is that those guys probably wanted to win every bit as much as Ward did. They just didn't feel the need to cry about it.

People show emotion in different ways. Plus, he really wasn't crying about losing the game.

 

[4thAndForever]

Sorry, but just because this guy can't keep his emotions in check, I'm not going to feel bad for him. You think this guy wanted to win any more than Peyton Manning, Donnie Edwards, or Patrick Kearney? I doubt it. Those other guys just have a better grip on their emotions.

^Most rediculous post ever. There is no scale to measure the will to win. Please

Who's trying to measure? All I am saying is that those guys probably wanted to win every bit as much as Ward did. They just didn't feel the need to cry about it.

People show emotion in different ways. Plus, he really wasn't crying about losing the game.

So a month from now, if I was to ask Hines Ward about Jerome Bettis's possible retirement, do you suppose he would break down into tears all over again?

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

Sorry, but just because this guy can't keep his emotions in check, I'm not going to feel bad for him.  You think this guy wanted to win any more than Peyton Manning, Donnie Edwards, or Patrick Kearney?  I doubt it.  Those other guys just have a better grip on their emotions.

^Most rediculous post ever. There is no scale to measure the will to win. Please

Who's trying to measure? All I am saying is that those guys probably wanted to win every bit as much as Ward did. They just didn't feel the need to cry about it.

People show emotion in different ways. Plus, he really wasn't crying about losing the game.

So a month from now, if I was to ask Hines Ward about Jerome Bettis's possible retirement, do you suppose he would break down into tears all over again?

Who am I to say? Depends on how much he takes it to heart.

 

[Steel City]

This is supposed to be the toughest WR in football, which leads you to believe all WRs are ####-wads.It's not like anybody died.It's not like the Bus is RETIRING. He's moving on.Good gracious, get a grip Hines Ward.

I guess all offensive linemen are "####-wads" also.-----After the meeting at which others spoke and many cried, only three players were found willing to talk to the assembled media."It was pretty emotional," center Jeff Hartings said, "and I think it's probably pretty uncommon for that kind of thing to happen at the end of a season like this and I think it says a lot about this team. ... We just thoroughly enjoyed playing football. "We honestly love each other. It's definitely the tightest team I have ever been on. It's a privilege to play with them. I kind of felt at the end that I would rather lose a game like that with this team than win a Super Bowl with a team I didn't even enjoy playing with."-----

 

[4thAndForever]

This is supposed to be the toughest WR in football, which leads you to believe all WRs are ####-wads.It's not like anybody died.It's not like the Bus is RETIRING. He's moving on.Good gracious, get a grip Hines Ward.

I guess all offensive linemen are "####-wads" also.-----After the meeting at which others spoke and many cried, only three players were found willing to talk to the assembled media."It was pretty emotional," center Jeff Hartings said, "and I think it's probably pretty uncommon for that kind of thing to happen at the end of a season like this and I think it says a lot about this team. ... We just thoroughly enjoyed playing football. "We honestly love each other. It's definitely the tightest team I have ever been on. It's a privilege to play with them. I kind of felt at the end that I would rather lose a game like that with this team than win a Super Bowl with a team I didn't even enjoy playing with."-----

Sorry, I don't care who was doing the crying, that's just not cool. You can sugarcoat it any way you want to, but the Steelers are hardly the first closely-knit team to lose a playoff game.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

Aach, forget it. I had a 7 paragraph post typed and just deleted it. Steeler fans, listen up. My suggestion is to just grin and bear it. (The loss to the Pats and Hines breaking down) If there's one thing I have learned, anytime you try to justify something in sports you are either a whiner or a noob. So just forget it.Congrats to the Pats (seriously) you played a superb game. Good Luck in the SB. To those that have an issue with Ward and what he did, nobody (Steeler fans) cares. If you don't want to see it, turn the channel or go to a different web site. It's just that simple.I, for one, will not indulge your juvenile tendencies to rub salt in other people's wounds.Have a great night.

 

[4thAndForever]

To those that have an issue with Ward and what he did, nobody (Steeler fans) cares. If you don't want to see it, turn the channel or go to a different web site. It's just that simple.

I don't think anyone "has an issue" with it. Just a bit taken aback by it.Kind of like the two kids down the street who ride their bikes at top speed down the hill, blindly onto a busy street.

 

[Nemesis]

I didn't have a problem with Hines' crying..........I had a problem with his "peach fuzz" attempt at a mustache that looks like one on a 13 yr old boy. What's with that?.....and while we're at it.....what's with Big Ben's pencil thin goat-tee like beard?(note: I am a Ward owner and supporter, but still laughed when I see his beard grooming habits)