fruity pebbles
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An autonomous limo sounds like the best thing ever. Love to be able to get in the night before, go to sleep and arrive at my destination ready to roll
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Elon recently said something about the stats of driverless vs driver crash statistics, and the driverless is safer. I feel like he was laying the ground work to start pressuring insurance companies. I have always felt like the driverless takeover would be cemented in by insurance.
The shakeup to the job force this is going to cause is underestimated imo. Everyone knows the Uber drivers are going away, but this is also going to shake up massive legal industry associated with auto crashes. Those are the best paid lawyers in every state, and think about all the medical mouths they feed. And auto body repair? I doubt their services will be needed much when everything is self driving.
The shakeup to the job force this is going to cause is underestimated imo. Everyone knows the Uber drivers are going away, but this is also going to shake up massive legal industry associated with auto crashes. Those are the best paid lawyers in every state, and think about all the medical mouths they feed. And auto body repair? I doubt their services will be needed much when everything is self driving.
the moops
Footballguy
When I travel alone into a city I never rent a car. Ubers, scooters, public transport, walking, I do it all. While I generally find nearly every uber driver fine, I would be very happy to not have to chat with anyone. I welcome our driverless taxis with open arms
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
China now has auto parking machines. You pull up to the front door of a restaurants or shop, and the lifts go under your car and take it to a spot. And they can park every car closer since they don't have to turn, go in reverse, leave space to open doors, etc. I've said it in this chat before and been laughed at ... we the US had better get our **** together. We are falling behind because we don't want to give up our control of certain aspects of our life. Meanwhile asian societies are coming up with cool things for their entire societies. Frankly I'd like to see cars driven by computers tomorrow. Get these morons doing insane speeds and flipping lanes every 20 feet off our roads). What about young and old people that maybe shouldn't be driving. The computesr can do it better. I'd 100% feel safer with the Hal9000 driving us all around.
Tick
Footballguy
I used to lean on this - show me the overall bulk stats instead of focusing on individual accidents. Now I don't trust Elon, though.
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If they're not sharing any details (except when they want to), and it appears they're shutting off autodrive one second before impact to fake the numbers, the stats from Tesla are worthless.
fatness
Footballguy
I don't think he has nearly the credibility on that issue (driverless vehicles) that he used to have.
I'll believe the stats if/when someone else objective arrives at them.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Humans are almost certainly more error prone than machines. But that doesn’t preclude Tesla manipulating self driving technology, or the data its vehicles collect, to lessen the company’s liability.
I don't doubt large corporations would do something like this, but in today's day and age that would be a monumental criminal conspiracy to attempt to pull off. They would likely need many people within Tesla to be onboard with this, and be confident nobody would flip at any minute for millions in book deals to take down Musk.
I don't trust Tesla to not fudge the numbers, but I'd guess that people slam on the brakes of the car a second before the impact and that shuts off the autopilot, not that Tesla is being nefarious here.
Waymo's accident rates show significant improvement over human drivers.
culdeus
Footballguy
If you are on autopilot it will force end the session if it doesn't find a way out. If applying brakes it doesn't suddenly stop that. It's rather clear when it happens that it wants the person to find a way out by steering if necessary.
It has been at times spooky good at spotting issues more than a car in front.
Where it still struggles is in uneven lighting like shade from a bridge into direct sunlight. Lidar was built for those cases. That Tesla has walked away from lidar due to early costs will hurt.
Cameras and AI should be good enough to be better than humans, but certain situations lidar could be better than humans. Apparently, having multiple sensor types & conflicting data is still problematic, so thats also another reason Tesla doesn't have it besides cost.
fatness
Footballguy
Other manufacturers of self-driving vehicles manage to use multiple sensor types, I believe.
I would think as AI advances it would be able to handle stuff like this pretty easily.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
i like driving. it's one of my favorite things. you'll pry the steering wheel from my cold, dead hands....
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Driverless vehicle technology is advancing at a rapid pace. It should improve even more when vehicles start communicating with other driverless vehicles on the road.
fatness
Footballguy
Think of the road rage potential.
D-Day
Footballguy
I have a 2026 Model Y with FSD (LOOK AT ME!) and it is really, really good. I rarely HAVE to disengage while using it. The most common disengagement is for something in the road like a small dead animal. It seems to run over them instead of avoiding. Perhaps the AI gets some kind of kink thrill of doing this? Not my cup of tea.
The other issue is speed control. It takes its time to reduce speed in different zones like 70 to 55 or a school zone. I usually take over at school zones. It will get better, but not a consistent as I would like at the moment.
As more vehicles become self driving and less human error, speed limits may actually increase because of better vehicle safety.
The other issue is speed control. It takes its time to reduce speed in different zones like 70 to 55 or a school zone. I usually take over at school zones. It will get better, but not a consistent as I would like at the moment.
As more vehicles become self driving and less human error, speed limits may actually increase because of better vehicle safety.
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