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*** SHAUN ALEXANDER THREAD *** (1 Viewer)

Seahawks | Alexander injury update

Published Tue Nov 7 8:02:00 p.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports Seattle Seahawks RB Shaun Alexander (foot) will not play versus the St. Louis Rams. An MRI showed the cracked bone in his foot has not healed completely yet. There is a chance he could practice later in the week.

 
He will be out week 11 also. If your not in playoff position i would move him ASAP if you could get a player to improve your team

 
RKMoney said:
RKMoney said:
Kuz said:
RKMoney said:
Personally I think Shawn is done for this year or at best he'll play but not be a worthy starting fantasy back.
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What gives you this idea.. Sound like Seattle is expecting him backby the 22nd game against Minnesota..You heard different or just a gut feeling it is much worse than expected...
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:popcorn: Still out AND for another week. It never makes sense to say your stud RB will be out the whole season or if he comes back will be ineffective. I still stand by my statement, he's done for the year but if he does come back people will start him and get burned.
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You realize neither of your predictions has come true yet, right?
 
Seahawks Report - Tuesday (11/7/2006)

11/7/2006

By Mike Kahn - Seahawks Insider

KIRKLAND - The great news is both Matt Hasselbeck and Shaun Alexander could be on the Seattle Seahawks practice field by the end of the week.

But neither will play this Sunday when the Seahawks play host to the St. Louis Rams.

The reasons for both are obvious.

“If they need some practice time prior to them playing, if they are capable of practicing a little bit and getting the rust off, then I want to do that,” Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren said Tuesday at his weekly day-after-game press conference.”

All the pictures taken of the cracked bone in Alexander’s foot still show healing, but it's not 100 percent, while Hasselbeck is still a couple of weeks away from being at a level to play following the sprained ligament he suffered in the loss to Minnesota two weeks ago..........

Seattle Seahawks Link

 
la-dee-da, i'm so not worried. take another 2 wks, mr. mvp.

(of course being 8-1 without him helps) :P

 
I remember when Henry broke his leg and still ran the last six games!

Stop being a girl Alexander and get on the field!!!

Any doctors know wtf is going on with this bust?

 
In Dynasty leagues, I see teams in the playoff hunt willing to deal of Alexander for immediate help this season. Should a team that is out of it trade for Alexander? It seems like Alexander may be done. He's hit 30, he had massive amounts of carries last season, and this injury seems to be an "overuse" type of injury that will linger. Sure, he didn't blow out a knee or ACL like some of the other great RBs that faced precipitous declines in performance (e.g., Terrell Davis), but it seems like the carries are catching up to him.

Do you take on Alexander in a Dynasty league? What if you're in a salary cap dynasty league and Alexander has moderately high price (but not an outrageous price)?

 
gheemony said:
In Dynasty leagues, I see teams in the playoff hunt willing to deal of Alexander for immediate help this season. Should a team that is out of it trade for Alexander? It seems like Alexander may be done. He's hit 30, he had massive amounts of carries last season, and this injury seems to be an "overuse" type of injury that will linger. Sure, he didn't blow out a knee or ACL like some of the other great RBs that faced precipitous declines in performance (e.g., Terrell Davis), but it seems like the carries are catching up to him.Do you take on Alexander in a Dynasty league? What if you're in a salary cap dynasty league and Alexander has moderately high price (but not an outrageous price)?
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Done? noWorth considerably less than this time last year? yes
 
Why do so many people equate Dynasty with good 3-5 years from now? SA will be a stud when he returns. He'll be a top 7 RB next year, and a top 10 RB the year after that. AT WORST. He had a cracked bone not gangrene.

Last time I checked you want to win THIS year first. Unless someone is offering me Maroney and maybe Addai, it would take a good RB plus some first round picks for me to part with SA this year or next.

I'll worry about 2008-09 later.

 
Agreed, i think SA is far from done...He seems to have the drive to want to play and should be a perrenial top 10 back until he hangs it up. His injury shouldn't hinder his future play, and he is still on an explosive offense that features him in the redzone. I would be buying SA in a dynasty if owners are giving up on him...

 
I think he's far from done, but rather probably great value next year.

I said it in another thread, but the lack of carries this year could be a blessing in disguise in prolonging his career.

 
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whhwalker said:
Why do so many people equate Dynasty with good 3-5 years from now? SA will be a stud when he returns. He'll be a top 7 RB next year, and a top 10 RB the year after that. AT WORST. He had a cracked bone not gangrene.Last time I checked you want to win THIS year first. Unless someone is offering me Maroney and maybe Addai, it would take a good RB plus some first round picks for me to part with SA this year or next.I'll worry about 2008-09 later.
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:goodposting: i LOVE people who play for 3-5 years from now... they keep "rebuilding" while i win now. such a weird thought process with some... hell we might not even be alive in 2 yrs... what's the point of stocking up 2008 picks at the expense of today? it's baffling. :confused: and :lmao: at "gangrene"
 
whhwalker said:
Why do so many people equate Dynasty with good 3-5 years from now? SA will be a stud when he returns. He'll be a top 7 RB next year, and a top 10 RB the year after that. AT WORST. He had a cracked bone not gangrene.Last time I checked you want to win THIS year first. Unless someone is offering me Maroney and maybe Addai, it would take a good RB plus some first round picks for me to part with SA this year or next.I'll worry about 2008-09 later.
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Not sure how anyone could imply that the original post was worried about 3-5 years from now. I am worried about next year. I've been in a dynasty league a long time, and I've seen owners buy Eddie George, Terrell Davis, Priest Holmes, Marshall Faulk, etc. during their first down year thinking that "he's goign to come back full strength next year and I am getting a bargain this year". Turned out, that these backs were on just beginning a very steep and hard fall from success. NFL RBs can fall off the cliff very quickly.Sounds like you would be willing to trade your perceived RB10 next season for Alexander straight up this season. What happens if Alexander turns into RB15, RB20, RB30? Then you came out behind. Obviously, if the SA owner offered me SA for Mike Bell, I jump at it. But do you jump at it if you have to give up Rudi Johnson? Ronnie Brown? Caddy Willaims? Reggie Bush? Addai?Sure, SA may return to being a top 5 back, but I think it is naive to assume there is no way that he doesn't end up at RB30.I think the productive discussion to have is: what would you be willing to give up for Alexander in a dynasty league?Personally, I think it's a bit risky to trade expecting RB5 value. I think you have to temper it and hope you get a bargain.
 
Alexander is still AT WORST a top 10 RB in dynasty leagues. AT WORST. Once he's healthy again, he's probably back to the top 5, if not top 3.

 
The longer he is out this year the less likely I will be to trade him....It would take a lot to get him off my roster...I think this time off may really be good for him in the long run. Time will tell but if he is healthy next year he is a lock for Top 10

 
fruity pebbles said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
Alexander is still AT WORST a top 10 RB in dynasty leagues. AT WORST. Once he's healthy again, he's probably back to the top 5, if not top 3.
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Top 10, yes but can't see him being top 5, and certainly not top 3, at 30 years old.
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SA will still be the #1,2,3,4 and 5 options in the red zone for a team with a good offense and defense that should be playing from ahead. Once he's healthy, i would take him over anyone short of LT, LJ, and maybe portis in dynasty. IF washington's O goes putrid the next year or two because the Jason Campbell experience gets underway, then I would even prefer SA to Portis.SA still has at least 2 top quality years left in him. How quickly we forget that he was head and shoulder above every RB not named Larry or Ladainian last year, and a perennial top 5 back.
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
fruity pebbles said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
Alexander is still AT WORST a top 10 RB in dynasty leagues. AT WORST. Once he's healthy again, he's probably back to the top 5, if not top 3.
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Top 10, yes but can't see him being top 5, and certainly not top 3, at 30 years old.
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SA will still be the #1,2,3,4 and 5 options in the red zone for a team with a good offense and defense that should be playing from ahead. Once he's healthy, i would take him over anyone short of LT, LJ, and maybe portis in dynasty. IF washington's O goes putrid the next year or two because the Jason Campbell experience gets underway, then I would even prefer SA to Portis.SA still has at least 2 top quality years left in him. How quickly we forget that he was head and shoulder above every RB not named Larry or Ladainian last year, and a perennial top 5 back.
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I'm not forgetting anything. This isn't the same Seattle o-line as last year. Hutch is gone and Jones is nearing retirement age. And last year appears to be an abberation not the norm for him. Look more for 1500 rushing yards and 15 TDs with little contributed in the passing game. He might have 2 years left in him and that's best case scenario. You can count the number of impact runningbacks at 32 years old on one hand and those at 31 years old are a rare breed as well. He signed basically a 2 year contract with 2008 and beyond up in the air. Scheduled to make 4.5 million in 2008 at 31 years old so Seattle could very well part with him or look to restructure at best. Give me the young runningbacks with a longer perceived shelf life. I wouldn't hesitate to take LT, LJ, Jackson, Portis and Ronnie over SA in a new dynasty draft and I'd probably also look to take Kevin Jones and Maroney before him as well.
 
gheemony said:
whhwalker said:
Why do so many people equate Dynasty with good 3-5 years from now? SA will be a stud when he returns. He'll be a top 7 RB next year, and a top 10 RB the year after that. AT WORST. He had a cracked bone not gangrene.Last time I checked you want to win THIS year first. Unless someone is offering me Maroney and maybe Addai, it would take a good RB plus some first round picks for me to part with SA this year or next.I'll worry about 2008-09 later.
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Not sure how anyone could imply that the original post was worried about 3-5 years from now. I am worried about next year. I've been in a dynasty league a long time, and I've seen owners buy Eddie George, Terrell Davis, Priest Holmes, Marshall Faulk, etc. during their first down year thinking that "he's goign to come back full strength next year and I am getting a bargain this year". Turned out, that these backs were on just beginning a very steep and hard fall from success. NFL RBs can fall off the cliff very quickly.Sounds like you would be willing to trade your perceived RB10 next season for Alexander straight up this season. What happens if Alexander turns into RB15, RB20, RB30? Then you came out behind. Obviously, if the SA owner offered me SA for Mike Bell, I jump at it. But do you jump at it if you have to give up Rudi Johnson? Ronnie Brown? Caddy Willaims? Reggie Bush? Addai?Sure, SA may return to being a top 5 back, but I think it is naive to assume there is no way that he doesn't end up at RB30.I think the productive discussion to have is: what would you be willing to give up for Alexander in a dynasty league?Personally, I think it's a bit risky to trade expecting RB5 value. I think you have to temper it and hope you get a bargain.
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I don't think SA is done, but I'd be lying if I didn't say his slow-healing injury doesn't scare me.Without turning this into an ACF Post, I've actually been offered SA and Chris Henry for Ronnie Brown in a dynasty league. Given the thoughts about SA, from people who's opinions I respect here, and the possibility of Ricky coming back next year, I'm actually leaning towards pulling the trigger on this now.
 
jeter23 said:
fruity pebbles said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
Alexander is still AT WORST a top 10 RB in dynasty leagues. AT WORST. Once he's healthy again, he's probably back to the top 5, if not top 3.
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Top 10, yes but can't see him being top 5, and certainly not top 3, at 30 years old.
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Tiki was top 5 last year and I'm sure there have been plenty of other top 5 RBs in fantasy.
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Tiki should not have been a top 5 drafted back in dynasties this year. And if he was how is that working out for those teams?
 
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gheemony said:
whhwalker said:
Why do so many people equate Dynasty with good 3-5 years from now? SA will be a stud when he returns. He'll be a top 7 RB next year, and a top 10 RB the year after that. AT WORST. He had a cracked bone not gangrene.

Last time I checked you want to win THIS year first. Unless someone is offering me Maroney and maybe Addai, it would take a good RB plus some first round picks for me to part with SA this year or next.

I'll worry about 2008-09 later.
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Sounds like you would be willing to trade your perceived RB10 next season for Alexander straight up this season. What happens if Alexander turns into RB15, RB20, RB30? Then you came out behind. Obviously, if the SA owner offered me SA for Mike Bell, I jump at it. But do you jump at it if you have to give up Rudi Johnson? Ronnie Brown? Caddy Willaims? Reggie Bush? Addai?

I think the productive discussion to have is: what would you be willing to give up for Alexander in a dynasty league?

Personally, I think it's a bit risky to trade expecting RB5 value. I think you have to temper it and hope you get a bargain.
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Smart SA owner: I'd ask for Maroney straight up. I'd ask for Kevin Jones, Ronnie, Addai, Reggie with additional picks. Since I have both Caddy and Rudi I'm a little biased, but would also expect picks with these guys as well.Smart SA buyer: Find a dumb SA owner who thinks he's going to be an RB15-30 and trade him Norwood, MJD, Jacobs, Turner with a good pick and laugh when I roll over them next year.

 
KIRKLAND — Another day after a game, another set of Shaun Alexander questions, and yet another prognosis of projected unavailability for at least another game.

But this week could be a little different for the Seahawks running back. He could do some running on the practice field by the end of the week.

That's different than the previous weeks since Alexander has been out with a broken bone in his left foot. The only activity he had been doing was treadmill work.

"But I wouldn't expect him to be able to play this week," coach Mike Holmgren said Tuesday of Alexander. The Seahawks host the St. Louis Rams on Sunday.

Holmgren said Alexander had an "outside chance" of playing, but the CT scan and MRI Alexander had showed the crack is not completely healed. That makes the Seahawks' game at San Francisco on Nov. 19 the latest target for Alexander's return.

"He has to have a good week of practice before we stick him in a game," Holmgren said. "I think he's one of those players, though, that can play rather quickly after coming off an injury."

Sunday

St. Louis Rams @ Seahawks, 1:15 p.m., Ch. 13

Alexander has missed five games with the injury. The Seahawks are 2-3 in those games.

Holmgren said Alexander is complying with the team's training staff regarding his rehabilitation, but that there is frustration for all involved.

In the meantime, Maurice Morris is carrying the load at running back and finally had a big game Monday with 138 rushing yards. But Morris is feeling the wear and tear of being a starting running back in the NFL.

"He's just sore. He gets beat up pretty good," Holmgren said. "You go down and see him in the training room, and the ice bill for the organization has doubled. He's got bags of ice on every part of his body, almost.

"He's been through the wringer, but he shows up on Sunday, fortunately."

Marquis Weeks, currently used on special teams, is available to spell Morris, but Holmgren hasn't used him.

Morris spells Alexander when both are playing, mainly because Alexander either asks to come out for a breather or is sore. The Seahawks also have designed plays for Morris.

Weeks isn't used mainly because the team doesn't have an array of plays set up for him.

In other injury news, quarterback Matt Hasselbeck, who has missed the last two games with a sprained knee, is on track to be back in action at San Francisco. Hasselbeck, Holmgren said, might also be allowed to run on the side during practice.

Wide receiver Bobby Engram is expected to practice more this week as he returns from a thyroid condition, but Holmgren said he's thinking the San Francisco game for Engram's first action since Oct. 1.

More on the status of starting linebacker Leroy Hill (shoulder) and starting right tackle Sean Locklear (ankle) will be known when the first official injury report of the week is released today.

 
fruity pebbles said:
jeter23 said:
fruity pebbles said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
Alexander is still AT WORST a top 10 RB in dynasty leagues. AT WORST. Once he's healthy again, he's probably back to the top 5, if not top 3.
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Top 10, yes but can't see him being top 5, and certainly not top 3, at 30 years old.
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Tiki was top 5 last year and I'm sure there have been plenty of other top 5 RBs in fantasy.
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Tiki should not have been a top 5 drafted back in dynasties this year. And if he was how is that working out for those teams?
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I mean he finished last season as a top 5 fantasy back. It is not unheard of for a 30 year old to be top 5.
 
jeter23 said:
fruity pebbles said:
jeter23 said:
fruity pebbles said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
Alexander is still AT WORST a top 10 RB in dynasty leagues. AT WORST. Once he's healthy again, he's probably back to the top 5, if not top 3.
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Top 10, yes but can't see him being top 5, and certainly not top 3, at 30 years old.
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Tiki was top 5 last year and I'm sure there have been plenty of other top 5 RBs in fantasy.
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Tiki should not have been a top 5 drafted back in dynasties this year. And if he was how is that working out for those teams?
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I mean he finished last season as a top 5 fantasy back. It is not unheard of for a 30 year old to be top 5.
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I agree. But do you want to burn a top 5 pick in an initial dynasty draft on a guy who you're going to have around for 1-2 good years.
 
Debeucci said:
I remember when Henry broke his leg and still ran the last six games!Stop being a girl Alexander and get on the field!!!Any doctors know wtf is going on with this bust?
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Bust? :lmao: If you followed the Alexander threads regarding the injury, it's been discussed to some length here that typical healing times for fractures is 6 to 8 weeks. That would put him back in action sometime in week 10, 11, or 12. Looks like he's right on schedule. :thumbup:
 
:pickle: :pickle:

Now Shannahan, please rest Tatum Bell this weekend, and I'll be ready to roll next week.

HOPEFULLY !!!!

 
It's all downhill for Alexander now. Easily top 5? Not even close.

Dude's pushing the wrong side of 30, is banged up and now runs behind a line that won't be able to do everything for him like it has in the past.

Next year, you go LT #1, LJ #2 and mix it up after that, with the likes of Portis, Westbrook, et al, getting looks.

 
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It's all downhill for Alexander now. Easily top 5? Not even close.Dude's pushing the wrong side of 30, is banged up and now runs behind a line that won't be able to do everything for him like it has in the past.Next year, you go LT #1, LJ #2 and mix it up after that, with the likes of Portis, Westbrook, et al, getting looks.
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Running Back is the highest risk position regarding injuries. Any one of the backs that you listed could just as easily get injured to put them out of contention for the top 5 FF prooduction. So I am not sure that I understand your point. Are you saying that because SA broke a bone that his value when he plays and in future years is compromised? Alexander is one of the most talented backs out there and once he returns is there any reason to think that he wont put up the same numbers he always has? As far as I am concerned, let him rest it up, come back toward the end of the season and help me slide through my playoffs.
 
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