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Should the Bears get a new quarterback? (1 Viewer)

Should the Bears get a new quarterback?

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bostonfred

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Not trying to beat a dead horse here; just curious to see if people's opinions change based on one game. I'll post again post-Superbowl to see if the results look the same.

Only two answers, yes or no, so if you think that they should replace him, but would be swayed by an incredible Superbowl performance, vote for whatever you think is most likely at this point. Please feel free to post your reasoning.

 
Not unless McNabb finally gets fed up with his treatment in Philly and becomes available......................which I don't see happening.

 
I hate the word potential since it's so overused. With Grossman, though, I think it's appropriate. He may have had the most inconsistent season of all time this year, so he's certainly ripe for the "potential" label.

Who knows whether or not he'll always be inconsistent, be terrible more often, or great more often, for the rest of his career. But considering his highs were so high, and he was a former first round pick, and this was just his first year starting, I think the Bears would be foolish to get a new guy. He's got a legitimate chance to become a franchise QB, and not many teams have that on their roster. (He also has a legitimate chance to be an awful QB, but that's not too important; awful QBs can easily be replaced; franchise QBs are almost impossible to replace).

 
Chase Stuart said:
I hate the word potential since it's so overused. With Grossman, though, I think it's appropriate. He may have had the most inconsistent season of all time this year, so he's certainly ripe for the "potential" label.

Who knows whether or not he'll always be inconsistent, be terrible more often, or great more often, for the rest of his career. But considering his highs were so high, and he was a former first round pick, and this was just his first year starting, I think the Bears would be foolish to get a new guy. He's got a legitimate chance to become a franchise QB, and not many teams have that on their roster. (He also has a legitimate chance to be an awful QB, but that's not too important; awful QBs can easily be replaced; franchise QBs are almost impossible to replace).
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:thumbup: Rex could benefit most from having an OC who explains WHEN to throw the long ball (e.g., against single coverage) and when to dump it off to your safety valve (when Berrian is double or triple-covered, or when getting chased around in the backfield). Grossman doesn't usually throw the ball poorly -- rather, he has a tendency to make some very poor decisions with the ball. Big difference, and it's something that hopefully can be fixed with good coaching. Favre was pretty similar his 1st two years as a starter, though I can't remember his bad games being NEARLY as bad as Rex's. We'll see what happens.

 
Only two answers, yes or no, so if you think that they should replace him, but would be swayed by an incredible Superbowl performance, vote for whatever you think is most likely at this point.
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They shouldn't replace him this year, but eventually they will need to.
 
Grossman has sucked, but everyone is contributing to this loss outside of Devin Hester/Thomas Jones....questionable play calling, bad QBing, defense can't get off the field, no pressure on Manning, turnovers...I probably missed 5 other causes of this disaster.

 
Colin Dowling said:
THey have a good QB on the roster...
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That's what I think too. Griese is good enough for this team to win. Grossman's size and awkward mechanics (constantly throwing floaters off his back foot) will likely never impress me. Joe and I said he was horrible preseason, had to eat our words a bit when Rex was playing great, but I still think he will never be very good unless his mechanics improve a great deal.
 
Chicago better draft a QB this year. Rex is gonna be doomed in Chicago with his first pick or fumble next year. Griese isn't the answer either.

 
Michael J Fox said:
Rex could benefit most from having an OC who explains WHEN to throw the long ball (e.g., against single coverage) and when to dump it off to your safety valve (when Berrian is double or triple-covered, or when getting chased around in the backfield). Grossman doesn't usually throw the ball poorly -- rather, he has a tendency to make some very poor decisions with the ball. Big difference, and it's something that hopefully can be fixed with good coaching. Favre was pretty similar his 1st two years as a starter, though I can't remember his bad games being NEARLY as bad as Rex's. We'll see what happens.
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Is this difficult to learn? I've played flag football and know when to use the safety valve.
 
Grossman doesn't handle pressure well, and when he starts to feel it, he seems lose all of his mechanics, and decision making ability.

This is going to be a big off-season for him - I've never seen a QB have such high tremendous highs and lows like Rex - if I'm the Bears coaching staff, I do nothing but 7 on 9 drills every day, all season. He needs to handle pressure better.

 
I think the real question is whether or not CHI will explore replacing Rex anytime soon? Clearly they SHOULD get a new QB, but I sort of doubt that they will seriously consider it.

 
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Yes.

The guy is still making fundamental mistakes that should have been corrected in college or in the first two years of the NFL. Granted, he hasn't started a lot of games, but the mistakes he has made are correctable and fundamental and yet he has not made improvement.

 
The Bears are in a tough spot because maybe he will be good (I don't think he will) but they have a team built to win now and you can't hide your QB. Several times on 3rd and 4 they ran it because they are afraid to put the ball in his hands. Everyone knew he was the achilles heel to this team. I doubt they will make a move for a QB but Griese will definitely be given every shot to take the starting job.

 
David Dodds said:
Colin Dowling said:
THey have a good QB on the roster...
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That's what I think too. Griese is good enough for this team to win. Grossman's size and awkward mechanics (constantly throwing floaters off his back foot) will likely never impress me. Joe and I said he was horrible preseason, had to eat our words a bit when Rex was playing great, but I still think he will never be very good unless his mechanics improve a great deal.
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If Griese was better than Grossman he would of played but he is not. The backup always looks better than he really is. I still think that Grossman will be the starter next year for the Bears. Do I think the Bears look to draft a young QB sure, but not for the next season.
 
greenroom said:
David Dodds said:
Colin Dowling said:
THey have a good QB on the roster...
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That's what I think too. Griese is good enough for this team to win. Grossman's size and awkward mechanics (constantly throwing floaters off his back foot) will likely never impress me. Joe and I said he was horrible preseason, had to eat our words a bit when Rex was playing great, but I still think he will never be very good unless his mechanics improve a great deal.
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If Griese was better than Grossman he would of played but he is not. The backup always looks better than he really is. I still think that Grossman will be the starter next year for the Bears. Do I think the Bears look to draft a young QB sure, but not for the next season.
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They won't go young. If they go for anything it will be a vet. This team is on the cusp now.
 
I just don't see this guy having the killer instinct and the decision-making. I know that's part of the OC's job, but between his own idiocy and the fans and media piling it on...just don't see it working out.

 
greenroom said:
David Dodds said:
Colin Dowling said:
THey have a good QB on the roster...
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That's what I think too. Griese is good enough for this team to win. Grossman's size and awkward mechanics (constantly throwing floaters off his back foot) will likely never impress me. Joe and I said he was horrible preseason, had to eat our words a bit when Rex was playing great, but I still think he will never be very good unless his mechanics improve a great deal.
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If Griese was better than Grossman he would of played but he is not. The backup always looks better than he really is. I still think that Grossman will be the starter next year for the Bears. Do I think the Bears look to draft a young QB sure, but not for the next season.
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Grossman is still the future in Chicago - he played bad today, up and down during the season, but he was part of the reason the Bears were in the SuperBowl in his first full year of starting. He obviously needs to get better, and we have a good backup in Griese. I don't even see the Bears drafting a QB.
 
Spiderman said:
greenroom said:
David Dodds said:
Colin Dowling said:
THey have a good QB on the roster...
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That's what I think too. Griese is good enough for this team to win. Grossman's size and awkward mechanics (constantly throwing floaters off his back foot) will likely never impress me. Joe and I said he was horrible preseason, had to eat our words a bit when Rex was playing great, but I still think he will never be very good unless his mechanics improve a great deal.
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If Griese was better than Grossman he would of played but he is not. The backup always looks better than he really is. I still think that Grossman will be the starter next year for the Bears. Do I think the Bears look to draft a young QB sure, but not for the next season.
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Grossman is still the future in Chicago - he played bad today, up and down during the season, but he was part of the reason the Bears were in the SuperBowl in his first full year of starting. He obviously needs to get better, and we have a good backup in Griese. I don't even see the Bears drafting a QB.
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I won't deny that Rex is an improvement for CHI at QB over what they've had the last few years, but that isn't saying much honestly. And I truly feel CHI made the SB despite his play, not in part due to his play. I know Rex is relatively inexperienced, but he needs to drastically improve his decision making in order to win CHI a championship. If he can't make big strides in the offseason and early season 07, Lovie should not hesitate to go a different route. The Bears have the team in place to win now... so the QB of the future argument holds very little weight with me.
 
bostonfred said:
bostonfred said:
For posterityShould the Bears get a new quarterback?Yes [ 8 ] [23.53%] No [ 26 ] [76.47%]
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After the second fourth-quarter INT, the results have changed a bit...Should the Bears get a new quarterback?Yes [ 16 ] [36.36%] No [ 28 ] [63.64%]
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Just before midnight on Superbowl SundayShould the Bears get a new quarterback?Yes [ 56 ] [59.57%] No [ 38 ] [40.43%] Wow. I guess the tide has turned.
 
mlball77 said:
Spiderman said:
greenroom said:
David Dodds said:
Colin Dowling said:
THey have a good QB on the roster...
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That's what I think too. Griese is good enough for this team to win. Grossman's size and awkward mechanics (constantly throwing floaters off his back foot) will likely never impress me. Joe and I said he was horrible preseason, had to eat our words a bit when Rex was playing great, but I still think he will never be very good unless his mechanics improve a great deal.
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If Griese was better than Grossman he would of played but he is not. The backup always looks better than he really is. I still think that Grossman will be the starter next year for the Bears. Do I think the Bears look to draft a young QB sure, but not for the next season.
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Grossman is still the future in Chicago - he played bad today, up and down during the season, but he was part of the reason the Bears were in the SuperBowl in his first full year of starting. He obviously needs to get better, and we have a good backup in Griese. I don't even see the Bears drafting a QB.
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I won't deny that Rex is an improvement for CHI at QB over what they've had the last few years, but that isn't saying much honestly. And I truly feel CHI made the SB despite his play, not in part due to his play. I know Rex is relatively inexperienced, but he needs to drastically improve his decision making in order to win CHI a championship. If he can't make big strides in the offseason and early season 07, Lovie should not hesitate to go a different route. The Bears have the team in place to win now... so the QB of the future argument holds very little weight with me.
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Rex made big plays in both the Seattle and NO game - I wouldn't say he's the main reason the Bears were in the Super Bowl, but he was a contributor.I agree his decision making needs to drastically improve - I'm hoping that it's just first year inexperience, but that's still to be seen.I think he'll be the starter, but, you're right, he needs to show strides. His worst games can't continue to be this this bad, and it all goes back to decision making.
 
Grossman is in a contract year next season. Negotiations should be interesting.

He also got a million dollar bonus for MAKING it to the Super Bowl this year.

 
Spiderman said:
mlball77 said:
Spiderman said:
greenroom said:
David Dodds said:
Colin Dowling said:
THey have a good QB on the roster...
Click to expand...
That's what I think too. Griese is good enough for this team to win. Grossman's size and awkward mechanics (constantly throwing floaters off his back foot) will likely never impress me. Joe and I said he was horrible preseason, had to eat our words a bit when Rex was playing great, but I still think he will never be very good unless his mechanics improve a great deal.
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If Griese was better than Grossman he would of played but he is not. The backup always looks better than he really is. I still think that Grossman will be the starter next year for the Bears. Do I think the Bears look to draft a young QB sure, but not for the next season.
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Grossman is still the future in Chicago - he played bad today, up and down during the season, but he was part of the reason the Bears were in the SuperBowl in his first full year of starting. He obviously needs to get better, and we have a good backup in Griese. I don't even see the Bears drafting a QB.
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I won't deny that Rex is an improvement for CHI at QB over what they've had the last few years, but that isn't saying much honestly. And I truly feel CHI made the SB despite his play, not in part due to his play. I know Rex is relatively inexperienced, but he needs to drastically improve his decision making in order to win CHI a championship. If he can't make big strides in the offseason and early season 07, Lovie should not hesitate to go a different route. The Bears have the team in place to win now... so the QB of the future argument holds very little weight with me.
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Rex made big plays in both the Seattle and NO game - I wouldn't say he's the main reason the Bears were in the Super Bowl, but he was a contributor.I agree his decision making needs to drastically improve - I'm hoping that it's just first year inexperience, but that's still to be seen.I think he'll be the starter, but, you're right, he needs to show strides. His worst games can't continue to be this this bad, and it all goes back to decision making.
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Fair enough. I largely agree with your post. All Bears fans are hoping Rex can improve markedly, and maybe with this year under his belt he will.
 
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN said:
Grossman is in a contract year next season. Negotiations should be interesting.He also got a million dollar bonus for MAKING it to the Super Bowl this year.
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If I'm the Bears organization I don't know that I don't want to see him play this next year first before deciding whether I want to sign him long term. Yes, other teams could get a crack at him, but I feel I'm still waiting on "the real Rex Grossman" to step forward. I don't know if that's the kind of guy I want to commit big money to.
 
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN said:
Grossman is in a contract year next season. Negotiations should be interesting.He also got a million dollar bonus for MAKING it to the Super Bowl this year.
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From both sides perspective, this will be interesting.I wonder if both sides would be open to a 1 year extension or an option (with a nice salary increase) should Rex perform at a certain level - of course, if that happens, he'd probably want a long-term deal. I suggest this because it would give Rex more time to develop at QB without having to worry about his contract.I'm guessing the Bears will want to see more, but that could end up costing them more $$$ (see Lovie Smth), but if they wait too long, they could lose him in free agency....
 
Spiderman said:
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN said:
Grossman is in a contract year next season. Negotiations should be interesting.He also got a million dollar bonus for MAKING it to the Super Bowl this year.
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From both sides perspective, this will be interesting.I wonder if both sides would be open to a 1 year extension or an option (with a nice salary increase) should Rex perform at a certain level - of course, if that happens, he'd probably want a long-term deal. I suggest this because it would give Rex more time to develop at QB without having to worry about his contract.I'm guessing the Bears will want to see more, but that could end up costing them more $$$ (see Lovie Smth), but if they wait too long, they could lose him in free agency....
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Absent another injury, there's no reason for Grossman to accept anything less than a multi-year deal from the Bears. That's the whole reason you sign extensions. I have a feeling that if they don't want to extend him this offseason while he's still under contract, Grossman will rule out signing during next season and will at least enable himself to test the waters as a FA in 2008.
 
bostonfred said:
bostonfred said:
bostonfred said:
For posterityShould the Bears get a new quarterback?Yes [ 8 ] [23.53%] No [ 26 ] [76.47%]
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After the second fourth-quarter INT, the results have changed a bit...Should the Bears get a new quarterback?Yes [ 16 ] [36.36%] No [ 28 ] [63.64%]
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Just before midnight on Superbowl SundayShould the Bears get a new quarterback?Yes [ 56 ] [59.57%] No [ 38 ] [40.43%] Wow. I guess the tide has turned.
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As of 1:45 AM EST after the Superbowl:Should the Bears get a new quarterback?Yes [ 68 ] [61.82%] No [ 42 ] [38.18%] So the votes have been 64-16 in favor of yes since the Superbowl started, and 52-14 in favor of yes since his interceptions. I'm curious to see how people feel once this game is less fresh in people's minds.
 
I think some people forget Griese's lifetime completion percentage sometimes. Oh well, da Bears have a few months to decide which way to go but they never had the best guy at the helm this year and went this far.

 
urbanhack said:
Pnishthm said:
IT'S HIS FIRST YEAR AS A FULLTIME STARTER PEOPLE!
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And????????Sorry, he's not the answer. Gotta give Orton a chance next year.He's STILL throwing off his back foot for christ's sake
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That's 2 seasons Grossman has cost the Bears. I still think they should have stuck with Orton and let him QB this year. I don't understand the Bears' fascination with Grossman, who's good one game and terrible the next.
 
cstu said:
urbanhack said:
Pnishthm said:
IT'S HIS FIRST YEAR AS A FULLTIME STARTER PEOPLE!
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And????????Sorry, he's not the answer. Gotta give Orton a chance next year.He's STILL throwing off his back foot for christ's sake
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That's 2 seasons Grossman has cost the Bears. I still think they should have stuck with Orton and let him QB this year. I don't understand the Bears' fascination with Grossman, who's good one game and terrible the next.
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Orton stinks. He's horrible. With the Bears defense not as strong as last year, Orton's 13-27, 110 yards and 1 interception wouldn't cut it.
 
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