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pidgeonmanza
Footballguy
michael bush
ahmad bradshaw (more in ppr but non ppr too)
devin hester
johnny knox
donald brown
devin thomas
ahmad bradshaw (more in ppr but non ppr too)
devin hester
johnny knox
donald brown
devin thomas
Not a big Floyd fan...just don't see how he is going to put it together as a 29 year old when a starting spot has been staring at him for the last 5 years and he did nothing with it. Honestly, not sure where the ADP is on a guy like Braylon Edwards compared to Floyd, but if they are somewhat even (and Floyd's value certainly is tied to Jackson's decision), I would leave Floyd in the dust. I do like the Maclin pick though...an interesting study would be on how second year players who were unfairly "hyped" in their first year drop too far going into their second year...Maclin could be the coverboy.I also like the following:WR:Mike WallaceSteve BreastonBobby Meacham (or even possibly Devery Henderson)Pierre Garcon (if Gonzalez shows a little something...if not, I think his value will not drop much)Mike Thomas
depends on how deep down the rabbit hole you want to go. the guy im targeting in all my drafts is mike williams. he'll be there as a real late-rounder in almost all drafts, at least until before week 3 of the preseason or even on the waiver depending on league.
non-rookies, and this will sound bad..............lee evans but im not sure he can be considered a sleeper. among my non-fbg reading friends, hes more of a forgotten guy.
non-rookies, and this will sound bad..............lee evans but im not sure he can be considered a sleeper. among my non-fbg reading friends, hes more of a forgotten guy.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I totally agree about Floyd, he hasn't shown very much and his ADP is rising like hot cakes with the VJax saga. I would be selling if I was Floyd owner. Remember when people used to laugh at VJax missing routes and dropping passes, it'll be the samething.
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
I've been targeting Donnie Avery in every league.
I have faith in Bradford and I think the combination of his accuracy, the Rams easy schedule, and their weak defense will all result in a STL WR ending up as a FF starter with great WR2 upside. Rookie QBs tend to lock in on their favorite targets so I'll be watching to see who Bradford develops a rapport with. As of now I'm leaning towards Avery over Robinson or Gilyard, but I could easily see it being one of the other two when draft day comes around.
Either way, the earliest Rams WR is Avery and he's going as WR50 in the 12th round or so... So as of now he's one of my sleepers and is somebody that I don't see getting mentioned a lot.
I have faith in Bradford and I think the combination of his accuracy, the Rams easy schedule, and their weak defense will all result in a STL WR ending up as a FF starter with great WR2 upside. Rookie QBs tend to lock in on their favorite targets so I'll be watching to see who Bradford develops a rapport with. As of now I'm leaning towards Avery over Robinson or Gilyard, but I could easily see it being one of the other two when draft day comes around.
Either way, the earliest Rams WR is Avery and he's going as WR50 in the 12th round or so... So as of now he's one of my sleepers and is somebody that I don't see getting mentioned a lot.
Rovers
Footballguy
I also like Laurent Robinson. he can be had in the very last round in most drafts. Lee Evans has some sleeper possibilities. This year I am very tempted (if drafting from 1.06 or later) to go WR-WR, and later in the draft get 4 or 5 RB's as sleepers, and see which ones might work out. There are a lot of them. From Bush to Forsett, to Miami to CLE.... lots of possible RB sleepers this year.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Late round picks I'm targeting are Chaz Schilens, James Jones, Jacoby Jones at WR. For RB, Tashard Choice and Derrick Ward. I also wouldn't mind a shot at stashing Darren Sproles this year. For QB, like Matthew Stafford and Alex Smith as a nice backup at their current ADPs.
EBF
Footballguy
I would confidently roster Jahvid Best and Ryan Mathews in redraft leagues if I could get them at a reasonable cost. I think both have the necessary combination of talent/opportunity to thrive immediately. I also feel that way about Dez Bryant, although he's a bit more of a short term risk because he plays WR. I still think he has the raw talent to potentially become an instant every-week starter.
I think there are some interesting options this year at the QB position. Kolb has been getting a ton of hype around here and he might eventually justify it, but in redraft leagues I think Chad Henne offers a similar talent/opportunity combination at a fraction of the cost.
At RB, there are some teams with unsettled RB situations that could yield a productive player. New England, Cleveland, Houston, Indianapolis, Oakland, Dallas, New York Giants, Washington, Tampa Bay, and Seattle qualify. It might a wise strategy to target the most talented back on those teams. Trouble is, there's no clear answer on some of those teams.
I think there are some interesting options this year at the QB position. Kolb has been getting a ton of hype around here and he might eventually justify it, but in redraft leagues I think Chad Henne offers a similar talent/opportunity combination at a fraction of the cost.
At RB, there are some teams with unsettled RB situations that could yield a productive player. New England, Cleveland, Houston, Indianapolis, Oakland, Dallas, New York Giants, Washington, Tampa Bay, and Seattle qualify. It might a wise strategy to target the most talented back on those teams. Trouble is, there's no clear answer on some of those teams.
Gopher State
Footballguy
QB Henne
Hasselbeck
RB Hardesty Clev--I think he be the starter by mid-season
Tate Hou--Another RB, that I think will be a mid-season player, maybe end up with 60% of the touches
Hamilton NO--I don't think Thomas and Bush can stay healthly a full season
Harvey Unga Bears--deep one here, but listen, he catches the ball very well (caught 102 passes at BYU) he rushed for 5.2 yards a pop his senior year, and Martz has said he really likes the kid.
WR Avery Rams--magic 3rd year
Doucet AZ--kids a player
Washington Tenn
Hasselbeck
RB Hardesty Clev--I think he be the starter by mid-season
Tate Hou--Another RB, that I think will be a mid-season player, maybe end up with 60% of the touches
Hamilton NO--I don't think Thomas and Bush can stay healthly a full season
Harvey Unga Bears--deep one here, but listen, he catches the ball very well (caught 102 passes at BYU) he rushed for 5.2 yards a pop his senior year, and Martz has said he really likes the kid.
WR Avery Rams--magic 3rd year
Doucet AZ--kids a player
Washington Tenn
Good list. Can't see myself with a Raider on my squad but other than that I like it. Nothing against Chaz but I don't see Campbell as good enough when I can have Rodgers throwing my boy the rock. And a round or 2 later.
Mr. Fusion
Footballguy
I'm looking at a lot of "sleeper" running backs, but not necessarily super late picks. I want guys who can break my starting lineup.
Michael Bush (will draft him at least 1 round above his ADP)
Forsett (his stock is rising)
Sproles (not unheard of that a rookie misses time or falters down the stretch)
Michael Bush (will draft him at least 1 round above his ADP)
Forsett (his stock is rising)
Sproles (not unheard of that a rookie misses time or falters down the stretch)
southeastjerome
Footballguy
James Jones, Legadu Naanee, Donald Brown.
cr8f
Footballguy
Yes forgot about Naanee.
CA_7
Footballguy
Laurence Maroney, a top 25 RB the 2nd half of last year and NE did not invest in any other RBs with Fred, Faulk and Sammy getting very old. Could be a nice RB3 or bye week filer
Lynell Hamilton: #3 RB on one of the top offenses in the league Pierre gets banged up a lot (what RB doesn't i guess) and Hamilton may win the GL job. The Saints didn't want to invest much with him $$ in the off-season which maybe says they like what Lyneell has too.
I like James Jones or Jordy Nelson as well, Driver's knee(s) are not sounding too good. The word seems to be out on M Bush too :(
Lynell Hamilton: #3 RB on one of the top offenses in the league Pierre gets banged up a lot (what RB doesn't i guess) and Hamilton may win the GL job. The Saints didn't want to invest much with him $$ in the off-season which maybe says they like what Lyneell has too.
I like James Jones or Jordy Nelson as well, Driver's knee(s) are not sounding too good. The word seems to be out on M Bush too :(
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yes forgot about Naanee.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Jason Campbell and an OAK WR. Just not sure if it will be Schilens or Murphy.
Here's a few to take note of...
Devin Thomas - People are forgetting about him, because he's not listed as starter....yet. I would be immensely surprised if he doesn't get the gig. The Skins have a new offense to learn. Is it any wonder why Shanahan has his veteran WRs as starters right now? Those are the ones who picked up the offense fastest. Give Thomas time. He hasn't even played a PS game yet this year. He'll rise.
Fred Davis - I really think Davis will be the primary receiving TE for the Skins this year. His presence over the middle and the mismatches he creates cannot be duplicated by Cooley. Not to the extent that Davis can.
The combination of Bo Scaife and Jared Cook at TE. You can get both late. If Cook doesn't pan out, Scaife will get 40-50 recs. VY knows him well and always utilizes him. Scaife's problem has been TDs. If he can get in the end zone, he'd be a Top 10 TE every year. If Cook finally figures it all out, he could be the next Vernon Davis.
Arian Foster - Great fit for the Houston ZBS and he is coming off a great effort in the second half of the season. He should build on that. There's a reason why HC Kubiak went to him in the first place. Look for him to be a big contributor this year.
Josh Freeman - He has a great work ethic and professionalism about him. He will make big strides this year, especially if his young WRs rise to the occasion. He's a gunslinger, in that he'll have a lot of pass attempts. Think Jay Cutler and Matt Ryan combined!
Golden Tate - He is drawing praise from both the SEA coaching staff as well as Hasselbeck. It's always good when a veteran QB has good things to say about his rookie WR, let alone his starting rookie WR. Teammate and 2nd yr WR, Deon Butler is also getting very good recognition too. I can see him occupying the slot and getting behind defenses with his quickness.
Donald Driver - In Driver's words - I feel great. Haven't felt this good in years. This was after his two knee scopes alleviated some problems he was having. The fact that he signed a 2-year contract and that GB gave it to him, suggests he's not just thinking abut this year, but next year. We all know he is in a great offense. Based on where he is being drafted, he could be a nice steal.
Alex Smith - 50% of his games last year he had multiple TDs. Vernon Davis and Michael Crabtree will tend to improve things. The 49ers offense could take a big step this year. This is the first time that Alex Smith has had the same OC in consecutive years. I really like him as a QB2 that could put up very decent numbers. Upwards of 25 TDs this year.
Marion Barber - Look for him to be the team's leading producer at RB this year. The goal line carries and 4th quarter finishes will be enough to seal the deal. The fact that he played 12 games last year with a torn quad is impressive. He has been electric in camp showing no ill-signs of anything. He's poised to return to his dominant RB status.
Jacoby Jones - 6 TDs in 22 receptions last year. Sign me up for some of that. If he can beat out Kevin Walter as the WR2, he has a very good chance to be a big surprise this year. Even if he doesn't, he should command more snaps on offense. He's too good to sit on the bench. The draft selection of Trindon Holliday, a return specialist, means Jones can focus more on a receiving role than a KR/PR.
IDP sleeper
CB Kareem Jackson, HOU - There are many positives involving rookie 1st round pick Kareem Jackson. He's slated to start, that's first and foremost. He also is a very physical player, which is a huge plus for a corner, especially because he'll be up playing the run often (especially in Houston's defense that plays a lot of zone). As a result, he will have high tackle numbers. His time at Alabama, which plays a similar pro-style defense allows him to come into the NFL as a player who doesn't need much ramp up time. The fact that he is a rookie, means opposing QBs will try to exploit him, which also means more tackles, passes defensed and chances for INTs. I tried to get Jackson as a bench CB in every IDP league this year. He could put up starter numbers as early as week one.
CB Kyle Wilson, NYJ - Another physical rookie CB that is slated to play the nickel CB right now, but if Darrelle Revis doesn't play (holdout), he could be thrust into action immediately. He is starting at CB in the Jets first PS game. Be sure to check him out. He has the tools to be a good starting CB in the league for several years.
Devin Thomas - People are forgetting about him, because he's not listed as starter....yet. I would be immensely surprised if he doesn't get the gig. The Skins have a new offense to learn. Is it any wonder why Shanahan has his veteran WRs as starters right now? Those are the ones who picked up the offense fastest. Give Thomas time. He hasn't even played a PS game yet this year. He'll rise.
Fred Davis - I really think Davis will be the primary receiving TE for the Skins this year. His presence over the middle and the mismatches he creates cannot be duplicated by Cooley. Not to the extent that Davis can.
The combination of Bo Scaife and Jared Cook at TE. You can get both late. If Cook doesn't pan out, Scaife will get 40-50 recs. VY knows him well and always utilizes him. Scaife's problem has been TDs. If he can get in the end zone, he'd be a Top 10 TE every year. If Cook finally figures it all out, he could be the next Vernon Davis.
Arian Foster - Great fit for the Houston ZBS and he is coming off a great effort in the second half of the season. He should build on that. There's a reason why HC Kubiak went to him in the first place. Look for him to be a big contributor this year.
Josh Freeman - He has a great work ethic and professionalism about him. He will make big strides this year, especially if his young WRs rise to the occasion. He's a gunslinger, in that he'll have a lot of pass attempts. Think Jay Cutler and Matt Ryan combined!
Golden Tate - He is drawing praise from both the SEA coaching staff as well as Hasselbeck. It's always good when a veteran QB has good things to say about his rookie WR, let alone his starting rookie WR. Teammate and 2nd yr WR, Deon Butler is also getting very good recognition too. I can see him occupying the slot and getting behind defenses with his quickness.
Donald Driver - In Driver's words - I feel great. Haven't felt this good in years. This was after his two knee scopes alleviated some problems he was having. The fact that he signed a 2-year contract and that GB gave it to him, suggests he's not just thinking abut this year, but next year. We all know he is in a great offense. Based on where he is being drafted, he could be a nice steal.
Alex Smith - 50% of his games last year he had multiple TDs. Vernon Davis and Michael Crabtree will tend to improve things. The 49ers offense could take a big step this year. This is the first time that Alex Smith has had the same OC in consecutive years. I really like him as a QB2 that could put up very decent numbers. Upwards of 25 TDs this year.
Marion Barber - Look for him to be the team's leading producer at RB this year. The goal line carries and 4th quarter finishes will be enough to seal the deal. The fact that he played 12 games last year with a torn quad is impressive. He has been electric in camp showing no ill-signs of anything. He's poised to return to his dominant RB status.
Jacoby Jones - 6 TDs in 22 receptions last year. Sign me up for some of that. If he can beat out Kevin Walter as the WR2, he has a very good chance to be a big surprise this year. Even if he doesn't, he should command more snaps on offense. He's too good to sit on the bench. The draft selection of Trindon Holliday, a return specialist, means Jones can focus more on a receiving role than a KR/PR.
IDP sleeper
CB Kareem Jackson, HOU - There are many positives involving rookie 1st round pick Kareem Jackson. He's slated to start, that's first and foremost. He also is a very physical player, which is a huge plus for a corner, especially because he'll be up playing the run often (especially in Houston's defense that plays a lot of zone). As a result, he will have high tackle numbers. His time at Alabama, which plays a similar pro-style defense allows him to come into the NFL as a player who doesn't need much ramp up time. The fact that he is a rookie, means opposing QBs will try to exploit him, which also means more tackles, passes defensed and chances for INTs. I tried to get Jackson as a bench CB in every IDP league this year. He could put up starter numbers as early as week one.
CB Kyle Wilson, NYJ - Another physical rookie CB that is slated to play the nickel CB right now, but if Darrelle Revis doesn't play (holdout), he could be thrust into action immediately. He is starting at CB in the Jets first PS game. Be sure to check him out. He has the tools to be a good starting CB in the league for several years.
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gandalas
Footballguy
Ironic post from a few weeks ago?
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Bernard Berrian - he was not healthy at all last year until the playoffs. Harvin's headaches and Rice's hip make him a huge sleeper.
Jeff,
I like your thoughts on Marion Barber. While the distribution in carries may change some, Barber is no longer that 2nd round pick and his ADP in PPR is roughly in the mid-5th round in 12 team leagues. Even in non-PPR he is going just a hair earlier. if he puts up 800 yards rushing, 7 TDs, 200 yards receiving he will rank in that RB 25 area which is nice value (which I would think is his floor barring injury). If Jones gets dinged up (which certainly is not unlikely), he could come back to his RB15-level and that is extremely good value.
I like your thoughts on Marion Barber. While the distribution in carries may change some, Barber is no longer that 2nd round pick and his ADP in PPR is roughly in the mid-5th round in 12 team leagues. Even in non-PPR he is going just a hair earlier. if he puts up 800 yards rushing, 7 TDs, 200 yards receiving he will rank in that RB 25 area which is nice value (which I would think is his floor barring injury). If Jones gets dinged up (which certainly is not unlikely), he could come back to his RB15-level and that is extremely good value.
JbizzleMan
Footballguy
zadok said:
I've heard nothing but great things about him so far. Also, Tampa should be playing from behind quite a bit.
I, too, have heard good things about Williams, but I swear I saw something that showed Benn as the starter ahead of him. I just checked the FBG depth charts and they do have Williams as the #1, but I swear I saw something recently that showed Benn and Stovall as the starters (maybe the daily email)?zadok said:
I agree completely. I forgot to mention him. If Favre reports and an if Sidney Rice continues to be iffy, Berrian could provide great value.FunkyPlutos said:
The Carnage
Footballguy
And now Unga just a hour or so ago. Maybe Gopher has jinxed all on the list?gandalas said:Ironic post from a few weeks ago?
Casting Couch
Footballguy
Sometimes it takes 2 or 3 years for a WR to reach his full potential. Maurice Stovall should be sitting on most waiver wires.
He is starting opposite Mike Williams, and I think he should be stashed at the end of every roster. He'll be either cheap, or free.
Reports say he is having a tremendous camp.
Maurice Stovall
He is starting opposite Mike Williams, and I think he should be stashed at the end of every roster. He'll be either cheap, or free.
Reports say he is having a tremendous camp.
Maurice Stovall
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
Mo went to my high school 
steelcityman
Footballguy
not sleepers but will be taken later than usually due to their circumstances
Big Ben
S Holmes
V Jackson
others
A Foster - he did good things last year when Slaton went down
this Douglas guy mentioned here has my interest now
C Henne - big time WR now.
T CHoice - Jones gets hurt and Barber takes beatings, Choice will have some solid games this year.
Derek Anderson - Leinart is awful, wild QB with strong WRs, Anderson can put up some good numbers.
Big Ben
S Holmes
V Jackson
others
A Foster - he did good things last year when Slaton went down
this Douglas guy mentioned here has my interest now
C Henne - big time WR now.
T CHoice - Jones gets hurt and Barber takes beatings, Choice will have some solid games this year.
Derek Anderson - Leinart is awful, wild QB with strong WRs, Anderson can put up some good numbers.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
Stoval? Carroll ( Im class of 94 ) and U of ND!Mo went to my high school
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
Class of 2008 hereStoval? Carroll ( Im class of 94 ) and U of ND!Mo went to my high school
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I really like Louis Murphy. I think he's the best wideout in Oaktown and showed that last year. Campbell raises the value of everyone and I could see him being this season's Sims-Walker.
Brady Gaga
Footballguy
Okay - some of these are only "sleepers" in terms of being slept on at very early picks and some are true "sleepers".
Tom Brady - some argue that he has only thrown for more than 28 TDs once in his career. I say that in his 2 healthy years with Moss, he has 50 TDs and 28 TDs - with the 28 TDs coming while recovering from the ACL tear in 2008. I think Tom can get 40 TDs this year. Moss is reportedly looking great, Welker is healthy enough and they added two stud rookie TEs and I like their WR depth (Holt, Edleman, Tate). Going after Brees, Rodgers, Manning and Romo and sometimes even Shaub and should out-produce them all.
Mike Williams SEA - Guy actually got his act together. Weight down from 270 to 233 lbs. and he's been tearing it up in Seahawks camp. If he can win the starting job opposite Housh (with Golden Tate in the slot) then I could see him making a nice impact - especially as a red zone target.
Brian Hartline MIA - Already locked down the starting job opposite Brandon Marshall and will be singled covered all day. He'll build on a solid rookie campaign from last year.
Jamaal Charles - Thomas Jones will push his value down to the late 2nd/early 3rd and he's going to deliver top 6-7 RB production. A lot of hype but still not a 1st rounder in most leagues.
Ronnie Brown - he's burned so many fantasy owners that nobody wants a piece of him before the 5th round but when healthy, he regularly performs at a top 5 RB level and I just have a funny feeling that this could finally be the year he plays all 16 games. Ricky will be there but he looked like he finally hit the wall at the end of last season and if healthy Ronnie will carry most of the load and put it in at the GL from the wildcat formation.
Tom Brady - some argue that he has only thrown for more than 28 TDs once in his career. I say that in his 2 healthy years with Moss, he has 50 TDs and 28 TDs - with the 28 TDs coming while recovering from the ACL tear in 2008. I think Tom can get 40 TDs this year. Moss is reportedly looking great, Welker is healthy enough and they added two stud rookie TEs and I like their WR depth (Holt, Edleman, Tate). Going after Brees, Rodgers, Manning and Romo and sometimes even Shaub and should out-produce them all.
Mike Williams SEA - Guy actually got his act together. Weight down from 270 to 233 lbs. and he's been tearing it up in Seahawks camp. If he can win the starting job opposite Housh (with Golden Tate in the slot) then I could see him making a nice impact - especially as a red zone target.
Brian Hartline MIA - Already locked down the starting job opposite Brandon Marshall and will be singled covered all day. He'll build on a solid rookie campaign from last year.
Jamaal Charles - Thomas Jones will push his value down to the late 2nd/early 3rd and he's going to deliver top 6-7 RB production. A lot of hype but still not a 1st rounder in most leagues.
Ronnie Brown - he's burned so many fantasy owners that nobody wants a piece of him before the 5th round but when healthy, he regularly performs at a top 5 RB level and I just have a funny feeling that this could finally be the year he plays all 16 games. Ricky will be there but he looked like he finally hit the wall at the end of last season and if healthy Ronnie will carry most of the load and put it in at the GL from the wildcat formation.
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Get out of my brain, that's scary. Well, not Devin Thomas.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'd rather have Devin Thomas over Devin Hester any day.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
RB's: J. Best, Adrian Foster, Benard Scott (Cinci)
Wrs: J. Gaffney, Nate Burleson, and J. Knox
TE: Heath Miller and deep sleeper in Brandon Pettigrew (Det.)
Wrs: J. Gaffney, Nate Burleson, and J. Knox
TE: Heath Miller and deep sleeper in Brandon Pettigrew (Det.)
Brady Gaga
Footballguy
Lance Moore
Brandon LaFell
Mike Thomas
Brandon LaFell
Mike Thomas
Brady Gaga
Footballguy
Believe it or not DHB has been getting good buzz in camps. And he is healthier than both Schilens and Murphy right now.Anyway, I do like Campbell as a sleeper. M. Bush is awake by this point and could climb into the 4th round by the time my draft rolls around.LittlePhatty said:
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
It all depends on who you're playing against really...
Ward, Mason, and Driver seem to be around later in drafts every year, at least later then their relative fantasy points output would rank them..
Ward, Mason, and Driver seem to be around later in drafts every year, at least later then their relative fantasy points output would rank them..
Ouch...at least Thomas or Bush might make it to the 1st pre-season game.
delusional
Footballguy
ha, class of 95 ( sorta ) at carroll, got kicked out halfway thru senior yearStoval? Carroll ( Im class of 94 ) and U of ND!Mo went to my high school
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
Will Smith got kicked out during his sophomore year. You're in good companyha, class of 95 ( sorta ) at carroll, got kicked out halfway thru senior yearStoval? Carroll ( Im class of 94 ) and U of ND!Mo went to my high school
Smack Tripper
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