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4.118 Raiders select Alex Collins, RB, Arkansas
Hoping he can be solid 2nd half of a RBBC.
Hoping he can be solid 2nd half of a RBBC.
I actually thought he had already been selected. Damn man, good catch !With Brees' time in the Big Easy winding down we should be (and IRL will be) focusing on guys who can be Day 1 contributors, but we can't pass up this kid's potential.
4.112 - Saints select Will Redmond, CB, Mississippi St.
He was on my short list. I almost thought about changing it around and not doing CB at 106. I just panicked that Sanchez, who is a great fit with Carolina, wouldn't be there at 121. I like Howard but I wanted to make sure I came away with my top two CBs past the top 5.massraider said:Tapper is a sleeper. One of the guys I ant my Raiders to take. LOVE that pick.
Great pick. I was thinking he'd probably go to Denver at 94, but you got great value.Dr. Octopus said:With the 118th pick in the draft the NY Jets select Isaac Seumalo, G Oregon State.
Even better value, I figured he'd go around 43 to the Titans.With the 118th the NY Jets select Shonn Coleman, OT Auburn
The Falcons draft here is done, I believe. It was much more fun to draft for a team without so many fanboys.
Just came across this article4.116 Indianapolis Colts select ...
Joe Schobert, OLB, Wisconsin.
Sorry its late and I was trying to check the first page and missed Coleman. Thought I remembered that he was drafted but when I didnt see him I figured maybe I was confusing the two mocks.Even better value, I figured he'd go around 43 to the Titans.
No worries. I'm online. I'll make a pick for you. I'll look and check your needs. I was just having fun with you while watching he Heat/Hornets. Go Hornets, steal one in Miami!You can skip me. Don't have time to go through it now.
He was picked, was it not posted? Odd.Where is pick 117? I see Kevin Byard on page 1 and he was on the top of my short list for 121. Did he get picked or did you confuse someone else's list with mine?
Nope, no pick posted, just listed on page 1.
Jalen Ramsey's pretty solid.You guys go ahead and make the Cards pick. I'm not going to humiliate myself again.
We really need some DB help...
By the way, Hornets won! Stole one in Miami, going home up 3-2 after starting 0-2. Nice to break that bad losing streak, now let's win the series.No worries. I'm online. I'll make a pick for you. I'll look and check your needs. I was just having fun with you while watching he Heat/Hornets. Go Hornets, steal one in Miami!
Thanks the first one I realized myself and was trying to edit, but got distracted by my wife #####ing about something and you had already responded to it by then.No worries. I'm online. I'll make a pick for you. I'll look and check your needs. I was just having fun with you while watching he Heat/Hornets. Go Hornets, steal one in Miami!
As it turns out Tapper is 102 on the evaluator consensus board so yeah Tapper and Collins are fairly close.Biabreakable said:I learned about him from Justis identifying him as one of the force players from this draft class.
I almost sent you a message to add him to the end of my short list I sent you. I like Collins a little bit better but both players are close. Maybe I took the wrong one not sure.
Collins made the top 100 consensus list while Tapper did not. Just watched highlights on both again. I feel more confident I made the right decision.
As Tapper did not make the top 100 he would meet the definition of a sleeper.
I realize we're just mocking around here, but if Hackenberg fell this fall for real he'd be drafted here wouldn't he?Texans select Caleb Benenoch OT/OG UCLA
athletic guy who could develop into starter with more core strength.
By the Steelers?I realize we're just mocking around here, but if Hackenberg fell this fall for real he'd be drafted here wouldn't he?
Sorry. No. By the Texans. That's why I quoted his selection.By the Steelers?
Oh, I was implying that in this mock he could go to the Steelers in a couple picks. But yeah, in reality I doubt he'd get past the Texans in the 3rd. They don't have a QB need per se, but Kelly has the most knowledge of his abilities. If he went past them in the 3rd then it might scare off other teams, if his own college coach doesn't want him, why?Sorry. No. By the Texans. That's why I quoted his selection.
They did.Wait, have the Texans picked? I was just looking at the OP and didn't see them filled in yet.
Could wind up being amazing value in the 4th. Some think he's got the most upside of any TE in the draft.4.121 Carolina Panthers select Jerell Adams TE, South Carolina
He might have. I sent two short lists to mass for my 106 and 121. I decided to use the CB list for 106 and my second list was:Darn. Was hoping he'd last to the Packers.
I agree. I liked him more than everyone except Henry, but I wasn't taking Henry in the 1st. I'll take Coleman in the 1st and Adams in the 4th over Henry and say Lawler/Burbidge.Could wind up being amazing value in the 4th. Some think he's got the most upside of any TE in the draft.
Seeing as how 7 of the 8 were gone by pick 64, I am happy to address Norman leaving by getting the #2 and #7 ranked zone corners to hopefully make CB a strength of the D.Zone Corner:NFL prototype: Charles Tillman, Panthers
Recap: Many teams mix man and zone coverage, so a corner who can excel in both is very valuable. There really isn't a bad zone corner in the group above. Florida played more man coverage in Hargreaves' first two seasons, but did a lot more zone in 2015, which he played very well in. Hargreaves' thickness, quick feet, tackling, and ability to drive on the ball are great fits to handle zone coverage against pro receivers. Fuller, Howard and Burns are very good zone corners. Each has the size to help cover receivers who run into his area. They would fit well into NFL zone schemes. Howard has the explosiveness to close quickly and also is well-built to make tackles, thus he's rated second. Apple and Alexander should be an asset in zone coverage as pros. They are fast and cover a lot of ground. Apple is ahead because he has more size and would work well in a Tampa 2 system. That could be a great fit for him in the NFL. Alexander and Sanchez are good in zone, but undersized and could be limited to only playing nickel. Jackson played more man coverage in college, but his lack of discipline could be very problematic in zone coverage. Free-lancing and gambling in zone leads to coverage busts with receivers who are wide open. Jackson will have to improve his discipline significantly if his team plays a lot of zone coverage.
- Vernon Hargreaves III
- Xavien Howard
- Kendall Fuller
- Artie Burns
- Eli Apple
- Mackensie Alexander
- Zack Sanchez
- William Jackson III
Thanks Mass,massraider said:4.07 49ers select Rashad Higgins
Higgins was simply one of the most productive players in college football the past two seasons. The school's all-time leader in receptions (239), receiving yards (3,649) and receiving touchdowns (31). He actually had his worst season in 2015 with a new offense and a new quarterback (75-1,062, 8 TD) but was still a first team All-Mountain West selection. His 2014 season was phenomenal, garnering consensus All-American and first team all-conference honors with 96 catches (10th in the FBS) for a nation-leading 1,750 yards and 17 touchdowns. The Biletnikoff Award finalist's 17 touchdowns averaged 35 yards each. The honorable mention all-Texas pick became an immediate starter for the Rams in 2013, leading the team with 68 catches for 837 yards and six touchdowns.