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Even with fantasy experts nationwide putting LT at #1 many others predicted a huge drop this year. I think this goes beyond the toe. Sproles may be small but he's spry. He's obviously not a bruising back, but with LT and his bad toe coming in situational I think he could do some serious damage. He's electric. What can we expect going forward?

 
Even with fantasy experts nationwide putting LT at #1 many others predicted a huge drop this year. I think this goes beyond the toe. Sproles may be small but he's spry. He's obviously not a bruising back, but with LT and his bad toe coming in situational I think he could do some serious damage. He's electric. What can we expect going forward?
For him to continue being spry, electric, and...a backup.HTH
 
Even with fantasy experts nationwide putting LT at #1 many others predicted a huge drop this year. I think this goes beyond the toe. Sproles may be small but he's spry. He's obviously not a bruising back, but with LT and his bad toe coming in situational I think he could do some serious damage. He's electric. What can we expect going forward?
For him to continue being spry, electric, and...a backup.HTH
Yeah Sproles gets hurt being a backup. 20 carries back to back he'd fall apart, forever.
 
Sorry brotha, I did a quick scan, but was trying to get off my Sproles thoughts as I could hear my boys waking up from their nap... Sorry for the oversight. Sproles looks amazing!

Edit: I love how people instantly write players off as being too small for the game and assume injuries etc. That's fine. In the meantime, Sproles looks tremendous. There are some teams that could stand to roll the dice on him being their feature back. He rips off big gains with limited carries. The guy could break off 300 total rushing and receiving yards in a game if he was given 30 plus touches against a mediocre defense. He looks THAT good. Sure, he could get injured, just like anyone else.

 
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Sorry brotha, I did a quick scan, but was trying to get off my Sproles thoughts as I could hear my boys waking up from their nap... Sorry for the oversight. Sproles looks amazing!
No worries. Fantasy seasons are won single-handedly by guys like Sproles.
 
Sorry brotha, I did a quick scan, but was trying to get off my Sproles thoughts as I could hear my boys waking up from their nap... Sorry for the oversight. Sproles looks amazing!Edit: I love how people instantly write players off as being too small for the game and assume injuries etc. That's fine. In the meantime, Sproles looks tremendous. There are some teams that could stand to roll the dice on him being their feature back. He rips off big gains with limited carries. The guy could break off 300 total rushing and receiving yards in a game if he was given 30 plus touches against a mediocre defense. He looks THAT good. Sure, he could get injured, just like anyone else.
So he's the best RB in the NFL?
 
sproles is good and will be good, but c'mon dude. unless LT2's career is over it aint happening that soon.

 
Can we get a BMI check, please? :)

In all seriousness, though, if LT2 wasn't hurt, Sproles would barely sniff the field much like the Turner situation last year. If he does get regular playing time, he'll be very productive. He has good instincts, catches the ball well and has the ability to hit a home run on any play. Keep and eye on LT2's practice status this week....

 
He did this against the Denver D...it sucks. Call me when he does it against a good Def
It would be too late then. The key here is that Sproles is the handcuff to LT or worth a spot in deeper leagues. If something happens to LT I'd expect Sproles to get the majority of carries.The fact that LT couldn't do it against DEN has me more than a little worried!
 
Sorry brotha, I did a quick scan, but was trying to get off my Sproles thoughts as I could hear my boys waking up from their nap... Sorry for the oversight. Sproles looks amazing!

Edit: I love how people instantly write players off as being too small for the game and assume injuries etc. That's fine. In the meantime, Sproles looks tremendous. There are some teams that could stand to roll the dice on him being their feature back. He rips off big gains with limited carries. The guy could break off 300 total rushing and receiving yards in a game if he was given 30 plus touches against a mediocre defense. He looks THAT good. Sure, he could get injured, just like anyone else.
So he's the best RB in the NFL?
Are you assuming LT is the best? I think Adrian Peterson is the best RB in the game. Put him in a Chargers uniform and you'd see unbelievable numbers, LT-esque numbers, lol. I'm saying Sproles looks better than LT, that's what I am saying. LT has endured a lot of mileage and he's always been healthy, but I think this will be the year he slows down a bit. It's easy to predict that coming off his past two seasons, but I won't be surprised to see him fall out of the top 5 RBs in the NFL this season. He is 29, about to be 30. Most would say he is still good to go for this year and the next two seasons through age 31, but I don't think he can sustain his pace much longer. 2,859 career touches is a lot of wear and tear.

TOMLINSON is 29: 2859 touches.

Jamal Lewis is 29: 2324 career touches and he is showing a lot of wear. Seems like he's 33 already!

Ahman Green is 31: 2314 touches and he looks like a Model T out there at 31.

Fred Taylor is 32: 2580 career touches; Wasn't even a keeper in my fantasy league. He's almost done.

Edge James is 30: 3312 total career touches! This guy used to be a stud, but he's almost done as a starter in the NFL.

It appears LT is the 4th OLDEST starting running back in the game. Lewis is a couple months younger and has less career touches. If you started a dynasty this year and took LT with your 1st round pick, you made a mistake. 5 years ago, you would be stoked to be named in that group above, but now the writing is on the wall. LT is a freak, a freak coming off a monster year. He won't deteriorate immediately, but his days of being elite are numbered. He's got the 2nd highest career touch total of the group. That would scare me if I was an LT owner. He's not the best back in the game. In 2-3 years, he will be about as viable as Edge, Lewis and Fred Taylor are today. They're serviceable, but not the foundation of your fantasy team. I expect him to produce this year, but I won't be puzzled if his numbers start to drop off.

Edit: The defense does not matter. LT is largely successful because of the system and the line. A healthy Tomlinson might have done slightly more than what Sproles did today. Keep in mind Sproles only had 7 carries and 2 receptions. He maxed out and did about as much as you would expect a healthy LT to do with 9 total touches. In fact, he might have done more, which is the point. 125 scrimmage yards and 2 total TDs is a hell of a game for any player against any defense in the league. The Denver run defense is weak, but you don't expect a 2nd stringer to go to Mile High and post those type of numbers.

 
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Sorry brotha, I did a quick scan, but was trying to get off my Sproles thoughts as I could hear my boys waking up from their nap... Sorry for the oversight. Sproles looks amazing!

Edit: I love how people instantly write players off as being too small for the game and assume injuries etc. That's fine. In the meantime, Sproles looks tremendous. There are some teams that could stand to roll the dice on him being their feature back. He rips off big gains with limited carries. The guy could break off 300 total rushing and receiving yards in a game if he was given 30 plus touches against a mediocre defense. He looks THAT good. Sure, he could get injured, just like anyone else.
So he's the best RB in the NFL?
Are you assuming LT is the best? I think Adrian Peterson is the best RB in the game. Put him in a Chargers uniform and you'd see unbelievable numbers, LT-esque numbers, lol. I'm saying Sproles looks better than LT, that's what I am saying. LT has endured a lot of mileage and he's always been healthy, but I think this will be the year he slows down a bit. It's easy to predict that coming off his past two seasons, but I won't be surprised to see him fall out of the top 5 RBs in the NFL this season. He is 29, about to be 30. Most would say he is still good to go for this year and the next two seasons through age 31, but I don't think he can sustain his pace much longer. 2,859 career touches is a lot of wear and tear.

TOMLINSON is 29: 2859 touches.

Jamal Lewis is 29: 2324 career touches and he is showing a lot of wear. Seems like he's 33 already!

Ahman Green is 31: 2314 touches and he looks like a Model T out there at 31.

Fred Taylor is 32: 2580 career touches; Wasn't even a keeper in my fantasy league. He's almost done.

Edge James is 30: 3312 total career touches! This guy used to be a stud, but he's almost done as a starter in the NFL.

It appears LT is the 4th OLDEST starting running back in the game. Lewis is a couple months younger and has less career touches. If you started a dynasty this year and took LT with your 1st round pick, you made a mistake. 5 years ago, you would be stoked to be named in that group above, but now the writing is on the wall. LT is a freak, a freak coming off a monster year. He won't deteriorate immediately, but his days of being elite are numbered. He's got the 2nd highest career touch total of the group. That would scare me if I was an LT owner. He's not the best back in the game. In 2-3 years, he will be about as viable as Edge, Lewis and Fred Taylor are today. They're serviceable, but not the foundation of your fantasy team. I expect him to produce this year, but I won't be puzzled if his numbers start to drop off.
He just recently turned 29. He isn't just about to turn 30.
 
Are you assuming LT is the best? I think Adrian Peterson is the best RB in the game. Put him in a Chargers uniform and you'd see unbelievable numbers, LT-esque numbers, lol.
Last time I checked the Vikings had a top 3 offensive line... :thumbdown:
Put Rivers in a Vikings uniform ... and Childress would completely abandon the run and lose the games the same.ADP has a better line than LT (or anyone else in the NFL if you ask me).
 
Lewis is a couple months younger and has less career touches.
Lewis has fewer touches because he blew out his ACL (among other things); I hope you're not suggesting that it's better to have blown out your ACL than to have been mostly healthy in your career.
 
Are you assuming LT is the best? I think Adrian Peterson is the best RB in the game. Put him in a Chargers uniform and you'd see unbelievable numbers, LT-esque numbers, lol.
Last time I checked the Vikings had a top 3 offensive line... :excited:
Put Rivers in a Vikings uniform ... and Childress would completely abandon the run and lose the games the same.ADP has a better line than LT (or anyone else in the NFL if you ask me).
And a great passing game to relieve some of the pressure too! LMAO. The Vikings have no air game, despite their offensive line. The Vikings running game is impressive considering their lack of a passing game, but Adrian Peterson could be even more effective if he had a passing game to relieve some of the pressure in the box. Given the choice, most running backs would probably prefer to be in the Chargers system with their personnel.Edit: Tomlinson is 29 going on 35!
 
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in case no one remembers, lt2 was outplayed by the burner last year when the chargers were at denver. how'd that work out?

sproles is in his 4th year in the league. it isn't like he's a rookie who noone had any clue about. i loved hiim when he was in college. he destroyed someone almost singlehandedly in a bowl game.

saw his screen pass for a td today. he might be the fastest guy in the nfl. but he's just too small to count on for 250 carries a season.

 
Are you guys joking in here? LT had a slow start last year as well.
Maybe Im forgetting something, but wasnt LT injury free the first few games last year?While you might not characterize his injury as 'serious', its certainly an injury that can linger and effect his play for longer than what some think is a few weeks. Say it affects him 4 more weeks. Thats almost half the fantasy regular season. It it effects his play as much as it seemed like it did yesterday, I think LT owners struggle to make the playoffs in most cases
 
yinzer said:
Eviloutsider said:
Are you guys joking in here? LT had a slow start last year as well.
Maybe Im forgetting something, but wasnt LT injury free the first few games last year?While you might not characterize his injury as 'serious', its certainly an injury that can linger and effect his play for longer than what some think is a few weeks. Say it affects him 4 more weeks. Thats almost half the fantasy regular season. It it effects his play as much as it seemed like it did yesterday, I think LT owners struggle to make the playoffs in most cases
I'll just start Darren Sproles instead :shrug:I almost posted a new thread, but figured this one will work... What is Sproles value? The kid is electric and dominated in the Big XII, but he is rather small. I assume his redraft value is low, but he's the kind of player that can push someone into the playoffs if LT is out. In a dynasty league, he might be among the Westbrook/MJD/CJ3 brand of RB, not quite as good, but pretty good nonetheless. Has anyone traded Sproles, or for Sproles?
 
In his postgame interview LT mentioned that when Derren was in there, they would drop back into a cover-2 scheme, giving Sproles some room to run than what he was seeing.

That being said... Sproles is overrated right now. He's coming off a big game and LT had his worst since that debacle against Philly. I think next week Sproles perceived value will return to a more reasonable level... and if LT isn't B-Sing about the state of the toe, you might be able to get him pretty cheap.

 
Sorry brotha, I did a quick scan, but was trying to get off my Sproles thoughts as I could hear my boys waking up from their nap... Sorry for the oversight. Sproles looks amazing!

Edit: I love how people instantly write players off as being too small for the game and assume injuries etc. That's fine. In the meantime, Sproles looks tremendous. There are some teams that could stand to roll the dice on him being their feature back. He rips off big gains with limited carries. The guy could break off 300 total rushing and receiving yards in a game if he was given 30 plus touches against a mediocre defense. He looks THAT good. Sure, he could get injured, just like anyone else.
So he's the best RB in the NFL?
Are you assuming LT is the best? I think Adrian Peterson is the best RB in the game. Put him in a Chargers uniform and you'd see unbelievable numbers, LT-esque numbers, lol. I'm saying Sproles looks better than LT, that's what I am saying. LT has endured a lot of mileage and he's always been healthy, but I think this will be the year he slows down a bit. It's easy to predict that coming off his past two seasons, but I won't be surprised to see him fall out of the top 5 RBs in the NFL this season. He is 29, about to be 30. Most would say he is still good to go for this year and the next two seasons through age 31, but I don't think he can sustain his pace much longer. 2,859 career touches is a lot of wear and tear.

TOMLINSON is 29: 2859 touches.

Jamal Lewis is 29: 2324 career touches and he is showing a lot of wear. Seems like he's 33 already!

Ahman Green is 31: 2314 touches and he looks like a Model T out there at 31.

Fred Taylor is 32: 2580 career touches; Wasn't even a keeper in my fantasy league. He's almost done.

Edge James is 30: 3312 total career touches! This guy used to be a stud, but he's almost done as a starter in the NFL.

It appears LT is the 4th OLDEST starting running back in the game. Lewis is a couple months younger and has less career touches. If you started a dynasty this year and took LT with your 1st round pick, you made a mistake. 5 years ago, you would be stoked to be named in that group above, but now the writing is on the wall. LT is a freak, a freak coming off a monster year. He won't deteriorate immediately, but his days of being elite are numbered. He's got the 2nd highest career touch total of the group. That would scare me if I was an LT owner. He's not the best back in the game. In 2-3 years, he will be about as viable as Edge, Lewis and Fred Taylor are today. They're serviceable, but not the foundation of your fantasy team. I expect him to produce this year, but I won't be puzzled if his numbers start to drop off.

Edit: The defense does not matter. LT is largely successful because of the system and the line. A healthy Tomlinson might have done slightly more than what Sproles did today. Keep in mind Sproles only had 7 carries and 2 receptions. He maxed out and did about as much as you would expect a healthy LT to do with 9 total touches. In fact, he might have done more, which is the point. 125 scrimmage yards and 2 total TDs is a hell of a game for any player against any defense in the league. The Denver run defense is weak, but you don't expect a 2nd stringer to go to Mile High and post those type of numbers.
Holy long winded, batman. I'm not assuming anything. You said if given 30 touches he would get 300 total yards rushing and receiving. If he could do that even 25% of the time, he'd be the best RB in the history of the league. You said it would happen anytime he played against a mediocre defense. Do you still feel this way?

 
You have to read more into you touch numbers than the numbers themselves. Lets see

TOMLINSON is 29: 2859 touches.

Jamal Lewis is 29: 2324 career touches and he is showing a lot of wear. Seems like he's 33 already! (Jamal Lewis lost a year to a knee injury)

Ahman Green is 31: 2314 touches and he looks like a Model T out there at 31. (Green has missed MANY games due to injury)

Fred Taylor is 32: 2580 career touches; Wasn't even a keeper in my fantasy league. He's almost done. (taylor not lately but has missed MANY games due to injury)

Edge James is 30: 3312 total career touches! This guy used to be a stud, but he's almost done as a starter in the NFL. (edge has amissed ayear due to injury)

That can account for why they seem to be "done"...the pasrt inury factor combined with age but also why they have less touches than LT2 does.

Sorry brotha, I did a quick scan, but was trying to get off my Sproles thoughts as I could hear my boys waking up from their nap... Sorry for the oversight. Sproles looks amazing!

Edit: I love how people instantly write players off as being too small for the game and assume injuries etc. That's fine. In the meantime, Sproles looks tremendous. There are some teams that could stand to roll the dice on him being their feature back. He rips off big gains with limited carries. The guy could break off 300 total rushing and receiving yards in a game if he was given 30 plus touches against a mediocre defense. He looks THAT good. Sure, he could get injured, just like anyone else.
So he's the best RB in the NFL?
Are you assuming LT is the best? I think Adrian Peterson is the best RB in the game. Put him in a Chargers uniform and you'd see unbelievable numbers, LT-esque numbers, lol. I'm saying Sproles looks better than LT, that's what I am saying. LT has endured a lot of mileage and he's always been healthy, but I think this will be the year he slows down a bit. It's easy to predict that coming off his past two seasons, but I won't be surprised to see him fall out of the top 5 RBs in the NFL this season. He is 29, about to be 30. Most would say he is still good to go for this year and the next two seasons through age 31, but I don't think he can sustain his pace much longer. 2,859 career touches is a lot of wear and tear.

TOMLINSON is 29: 2859 touches.

Jamal Lewis is 29: 2324 career touches and he is showing a lot of wear. Seems like he's 33 already!

Ahman Green is 31: 2314 touches and he looks like a Model T out there at 31.

Fred Taylor is 32: 2580 career touches; Wasn't even a keeper in my fantasy league. He's almost done.

Edge James is 30: 3312 total career touches! This guy used to be a stud, but he's almost done as a starter in the NFL.

It appears LT is the 4th OLDEST starting running back in the game. Lewis is a couple months younger and has less career touches. If you started a dynasty this year and took LT with your 1st round pick, you made a mistake. 5 years ago, you would be stoked to be named in that group above, but now the writing is on the wall. LT is a freak, a freak coming off a monster year. He won't deteriorate immediately, but his days of being elite are numbered. He's got the 2nd highest career touch total of the group. That would scare me if I was an LT owner. He's not the best back in the game. In 2-3 years, he will be about as viable as Edge, Lewis and Fred Taylor are today. They're serviceable, but not the foundation of your fantasy team. I expect him to produce this year, but I won't be puzzled if his numbers start to drop off.

Edit: The defense does not matter. LT is largely successful because of the system and the line. A healthy Tomlinson might have done slightly more than what Sproles did today. Keep in mind Sproles only had 7 carries and 2 receptions. He maxed out and did about as much as you would expect a healthy LT to do with 9 total touches. In fact, he might have done more, which is the point. 125 scrimmage yards and 2 total TDs is a hell of a game for any player against any defense in the league. The Denver run defense is weak, but you don't expect a 2nd stringer to go to Mile High and post those type of numbers.
 
In his postgame interview LT mentioned that when Derren was in there, they would drop back into a cover-2 scheme, giving Sproles some room to run than what he was seeing.That being said... Sproles is overrated right now. He's coming off a big game and LT had his worst since that debacle against Philly. I think next week Sproles perceived value will return to a more reasonable level... and if LT isn't B-Sing about the state of the toe, you might be able to get him pretty cheap.
Yeah whatever LT. I guess NE ran the Cover 2 exclusively in the playoffs last year too. :)
 
This thread made me laugh.

Some people in this thread must have very interesting rosters by the end of the year.

LT's replacement is not on the roster yet.

 
Sproles looked great in this game. He's very short, but he's built stout.

He'll be a free agent this offseason and I think he could assume a Warrick Dunn type role for someone next year.

He's definitely a more dynamic talent than Hester. That said, I would still expect a RBBC if LT is sidelined.

 
Sproles looked great in this game. He's very short, but he's built stout. He'll be a free agent this offseason and I think he could assume a Warrick Dunn type role for someone next year. He's definitely a more dynamic talent than Hester. That said, I would still expect a RBBC if LT is sidelined.
Given the LT2 hysteria I'm surprised we aren't seeing more talk about Hester.
 
Sproles looked great in this game. He's very short, but he's built stout. He'll be a free agent this offseason and I think he could assume a Warrick Dunn type role for someone next year. He's definitely a more dynamic talent than Hester. That said, I would still expect a RBBC if LT is sidelined.
Given the LT2 hysteria I'm surprised we aren't seeing more talk about Hester.
I am not a believer.. however, EVEN in my dynasty league, i have some idea of a succession plan.. and would think NFL teams would be much more involved in making sure, they have some level of insurance for the "best player ever" going forward.. the let Turner go.. maybe a mistake, but to me indicative of their faith in one of these two, Hester or Sproles, to quite possibly, pick up where LT leaves off....
 
Sproles looked great in this game. He's very short, but he's built stout. He'll be a free agent this offseason and I think he could assume a Warrick Dunn type role for someone next year. He's definitely a more dynamic talent than Hester. That said, I would still expect a RBBC if LT is sidelined.
They'd have to get Hester involved because Sproles gives them no power between the tackles. Of course Sproles could put up MJD numbers on limited touches.
 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Sproles looked great in this game. He's very short, but he's built stout. He'll be a free agent this offseason and I think he could assume a Warrick Dunn type role for someone next year. He's definitely a more dynamic talent than Hester. That said, I would still expect a RBBC if LT is sidelined.
They'd have to get Hester involved because Sproles gives them no power between the tackles. Of course Sproles could put up MJD numbers on limited touches.
So I totally agree Sproles cant run between the tackles and that will forever cripple you for the being a RB1 option but I disagree he could ever be compared to MJD because despite size MJD is one of the most powerful RBs in the league and is just as a effective running up the gut and on the goalline as say Brandon Jacobs. Sproles will be a great Norwood/Bush type guy... great outside runner and a great dump pass / screen guy. You can only use these guys so many times per game. When its all said and done you still need someone who can pound the ball. This "LT could be done mess" is just madness to me as well. Yeah hes getting up there in age but is there really anyone who takes care of their body more than LT? Theres athletes from all over who try and train with him in the off-season and end up hugging a trashcan. I think its safe to say minus the toe being a nagging injury hes got 2 solid seasons left in him.
 
Put this under the for what it's worth file:

The famous "Bongo," who has some inside contacts in the league, and posts frequently at titanscentral.net, says he recently spoke to an NFL scout, and he had this to say:

"a few tid bits I gathered.............

He says he think LT is set up for a catastrophic fall from grace this yr much like EG faced in 2001. He has lost alot according to him............I have not seen alot of LT but he thinks LT days are now numbered..........."

LT owner here, BTW. :confused:

 
I'm debating whether he's worth blowing #1 waiver pick for (waivers don't reset in my league, so using the #1 is a pretty big deal)

 
Sproles looked great in this game. He's very short, but he's built stout.

He'll be a free agent this offseason and I think he could assume a Warrick Dunn type role for someone next year.

He's definitely a more dynamic talent than Hester. That said, I would still expect a RBBC if LT is sidelined.
Given the LT2 hysteria I'm surprised we aren't seeing more talk about Hester.
I am not a believer.. however, EVEN in my dynasty league, i have some idea of a succession plan.. and would think NFL teams would be much more involved in making sure, they have some level of insurance for the "best player ever" going forward.. the let Turner go.. maybe a mistake, but to me indicative of their faith in one of these two, Hester or Sproles, to quite possibly, pick up where LT leaves off....
I don't think you can say SanDiego "let Turner go"... he was OUT... he wanted to start. I don't think they could've offered him enough money to back up Tomlinson for another 2+ years... he wanted carries.
 
Sproles looked great in this game. He's very short, but he's built stout.

He'll be a free agent this offseason and I think he could assume a Warrick Dunn type role for someone next year.

He's definitely a more dynamic talent than Hester. That said, I would still expect a RBBC if LT is sidelined.
Given the LT2 hysteria I'm surprised we aren't seeing more talk about Hester.
I am not a believer.. however, EVEN in my dynasty league, i have some idea of a succession plan.. and would think NFL teams would be much more involved in making sure, they have some level of insurance for the "best player ever" going forward.. the let Turner go.. maybe a mistake, but to me indicative of their faith in one of these two, Hester or Sproles, to quite possibly, pick up where LT leaves off....
I don't think you can say SanDiego "let Turner go"... he was OUT... he wanted to start. I don't think they could've offered him enough money to back up Tomlinson for another 2+ years... he wanted carries.
Sorry. My thought. Wasn't complete. Common mistake of mine. I also feel that SD should have taken advantage of LTs fame and tried to move him, similar to how the colts let edge go before they won a super bowl. I believe turner is more than adequate to be an every down back. And with whatever SD got for LT would have made them that much better this year. And yes you do trade the MVP if it makes your squad better.

 

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