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Hear-the-Footsteps
Footballguy
By suggesting a bet - I realize you are missing my point completely about bias.But to address your point first - I'd make a bet with you anyway.I love it!I feel like I got good value with Bulger and Roy.Hear-the-Footsteps said:Hey Jeff, given the above part I bolded - I got one thing to say.It is something I've teased you about a lot in the past - i.e., trying to remove bias.Pimpin Ain said:I understand where you are coming from Adam, but that was your choice to wait earlier. In leagues like this where it is mostly experienced FF players, I say no mercy. Move the draft along. Guys should be paying attention IMO. Not trying to ba a ####, just the way I see it considering the competiton.These are free leagues, and I am here mostly to sharpen my skills against the top notch competition that are in them.Hear-the-Footsteps said:Look, I am not mad or pissed or anything like that. I just found it interesting - that's all - given that he was the one to make a pick anyway (instead of allow a re-pick) when he was the one that was given the time to re-pick earlier. That's it. No biggie.Where at the crap time that it really doesn't matter. He also went to a different position. I'm glad he turned the corner late at night to keep this rolling as I would like to be done by the holiday weekend.Wow, Aaron picking even though the guy before him has to re-pick.Wouldn't have thought you would do this - considering you were the one we held things up for to allow you to re-pick, when you did this rounds earlier.
Too many ice cream socials sometimes.
I know we joke about this, but it is true.
Look at your squad in this FREE league so far - it includes:
Roy Williams
Julius Jones
Marc Bulger
Chris Johnson
Dallas
I'm just shocked you didn't do what it would have taken to land DeAngelo Williams.
I think you know what I am getting at without having to actually connect the dots.
But I do see your other point. But while I see it, I also think you hit on something - this is a free league. So it isn't a huge deal to hold up one second for a guy. Moreover, you'd especially think that when you were the one it was previously held up for - for the exact same reason earlier.
But we don't all have to bash me for this. I understand everyone's points. And in fact, I agree to a large extent. So again, I am not pissed or anything like that. It was more about bringing it to his attention in case he didn't even realize it.
I also think Julius is gonna surprise some. If I am wrong then so be it. I think he was RB 25 or so off the board. I feel like he will finish higher than that. Time will tell.
I like Johnson in this format givin PPR and best ball. Not to mention his homerun ability.
Dallas added at least one and maybe 2 (depending on Pacman) above average return men. Their Secondary should be much improved also.
I feel like my team will last longer than yours, and I'm all ears on a side bet if you're interested??
But didn't we make a bet in the first year of HA1 about Giants and Cowboys and I recall winning that?!?! What ever happened?
Speaking of Giants and Cowboys - what did you think of the game on January 13, 2008?
But yes, if you'd like to make a bet - I'm game. Don't think for a second I haven't seen how you do in these survivor leagues. You had a deplorable 2007...and I mean ugly. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)
But getting back to my original point for a second...
Roy Williams, Julius Jones, Marc Bulger, Chris Johnson, and Dallas DST.
That's 5/12 of your team - practically half.
And the bias I know about is only from the HA league. Perhaps you have the other 7 players in your other leagues.
(Sorry, I just can't stop laughing.)
Anyway, let's see that list:
Roy Williams - you had him on HA for quite some time and absolutely loved him - more than almost anyone else.
Julius Jones - you had him as a result of being the Dallas RB and now that he is supposed to be the starting RB in Seattle - I wouldn't be surprised if you projected him to be in the 15-20 range of RBs.
Marc Bulger - surprise surprise - another guy you have in the HA league.
Chris Johnson - shocker - yet another guy you have in the HA league.
Dallas DST - real shocker - they are your favorite team.
See my point? Bias on some level on everyone.
Team Legacy
Footballguy
Did somebody say DWill ??? Oh... nevermind.
You guys are hilarious. I can't wait to see the stakes on the line here...
You guys are hilarious. I can't wait to see the stakes on the line here...
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Captain Hook
Footballguy
Okay, I have sent OM's pick per list to Blue-Kun who is up next. If OM shows up and picks it will be BKs pick - if BK shows up first he will post the pick I sent him for OM and then his. capiche?
Out
Out
OK..made he long commute home.
Pimpin Ain't Easy
Footballguy
13.10 Robert Meachem, WR
Wow I screwed up my ADP this draft. Thought he'd last until rd 14-15.
Atomic Punk
Footballguy
As I said Rud, no worries ... back to organizing my purse.I'll also apologize to the group for not one, but two duplicate picks. I've been on the road or tied up in meetings and have not had the time to devote that I normally do. Still
Pimpin Ain't Easy
Footballguy
I have come out and said it myself that I got my ### handed to me last year. I have no problems admitting that, but if you think that is the norm, then you better check again. Before last year I had only one finish outside the top 3. Doesn't really matter. Even better if you think it's easy money.I remember us talking about a bet during the HA 1 start up draft. The way I remember it though was we talked about it, then we started talking about that 3rd round trade (when you got all mad cuz you mised out on Maroney, and I was after Julius oddly enough. lol) and never agreed or discussed/ finalized what the actual bet was. The Giants won that game, and if you can refresh my memory in case I'm mistaken, I will take care of whatever it was. And where in the #### have you been for the last 2 years??By suggesting a bet - I realize you are missing my point completely about bias.But to address your point first - I'd make a bet with you anyway.I love it!I feel like I got good value with Bulger and Roy.Hey Jeff, given the above part I bolded - I got one thing to say.It is something I've teased you about a lot in the past - i.e., trying to remove bias.I understand where you are coming from Adam, but that was your choice to wait earlier. In leagues like this where it is mostly experienced FF players, I say no mercy. Move the draft along. Guys should be paying attention IMO. Not trying to ba a ####, just the way I see it considering the competiton.These are free leagues, and I am here mostly to sharpen my skills against the top notch competition that are in them.Look, I am not mad or pissed or anything like that. I just found it interesting - that's all - given that he was the one to make a pick anyway (instead of allow a re-pick) when he was the one that was given the time to re-pick earlier. That's it. No biggie.Where at the crap time that it really doesn't matter. He also went to a different position. I'm glad he turned the corner late at night to keep this rolling as I would like to be done by the holiday weekend.Wow, Aaron picking even though the guy before him has to re-pick.Wouldn't have thought you would do this - considering you were the one we held things up for to allow you to re-pick, when you did this rounds earlier.
Too many ice cream socials sometimes.
I know we joke about this, but it is true.
Look at your squad in this FREE league so far - it includes:
Roy Williams
Julius Jones
Marc Bulger
Chris Johnson
Dallas
I'm just shocked you didn't do what it would have taken to land DeAngelo Williams.
I think you know what I am getting at without having to actually connect the dots.
But I do see your other point. But while I see it, I also think you hit on something - this is a free league. So it isn't a huge deal to hold up one second for a guy. Moreover, you'd especially think that when you were the one it was previously held up for - for the exact same reason earlier.
But we don't all have to bash me for this. I understand everyone's points. And in fact, I agree to a large extent. So again, I am not pissed or anything like that. It was more about bringing it to his attention in case he didn't even realize it.
I also think Julius is gonna surprise some. If I am wrong then so be it. I think he was RB 25 or so off the board. I feel like he will finish higher than that. Time will tell.
I like Johnson in this format givin PPR and best ball. Not to mention his homerun ability.
Dallas added at least one and maybe 2 (depending on Pacman) above average return men. Their Secondary should be much improved also.
I feel like my team will last longer than yours, and I'm all ears on a side bet if you're interested??
But didn't we make a bet in the first year of HA1 about Giants and Cowboys and I recall winning that?!?! What ever happened?
Speaking of Giants and Cowboys - what did you think of the game on January 13, 2008?
But yes, if you'd like to make a bet - I'm game. Don't think for a second I haven't seen how you do in these survivor leagues. You had a deplorable 2007...and I mean ugly. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)
But getting back to my original point for a second...
Roy Williams, Julius Jones, Marc Bulger, Chris Johnson, and Dallas DST.
That's 5/12 of your team - practically half.
And the bias I know about is only from the HA league. Perhaps you have the other 7 players in your other leagues.
(Sorry, I just can't stop laughing.)
Anyway, let's see that list:
Roy Williams - you had him on HA for quite some time and absolutely loved him - more than almost anyone else.
Julius Jones - you had him as a result of being the Dallas RB and now that he is supposed to be the starting RB in Seattle - I wouldn't be surprised if you projected him to be in the 15-20 range of RBs.
Marc Bulger - surprise surprise - another guy you have in the HA league.
Chris Johnson - shocker - yet another guy you have in the HA league.
Dallas DST - real shocker - they are your favorite team.
See my point? Bias on some level on everyone.
Last time we talked I gave you, and your boys props for the big playoff win, and SB victory to boot.
As for the bias, sure if you want to call it that. As an owner of Bulger, and Roy last year I really felt that Bulger at QB 12, and Roy at WR 14 were great values. Both had really down years and I expect them to rebound.
I have a feeling that Duckett is not as good as MB3, and feel like Julius got somewhat of a raw deal in Dallas. Obviously I'm in the minority, but I'm ok with that. The guy has 2 of the top 4 rushing performances on a franchise with a rich RB history. The guy can play IMO. Not saying he's a lock for the top 15 either, but I think he is being sold a little short. Just my opinion.
The bet idea was in reference to my picks as bad ones. I will stand behind them and put my money where my mouth is. That's it.
Let me know how frisky you are feeling, and lets get it done.
Nooooooo!
He should have lasted one more round! Now, I am forced to go with dreaded third D/ST strategy!! 
tex
Footballguy
You don't know how much I appreciate you guys for taking my lists. As most of you know, I am usually around much more for these drafts but I have been working a lot more hours than normal lately, and because of that, spending more time with family and less time on the computer. I'll be off tomorrow, so hopefully I will be here for whatever picks come up. Thanks again for the help.I want to take a second and thank tex and Old Millwaukee, drafting on each side of me...these guys have sent lists, usually covering 2 rounds, at almost every selection!Ok in order.
BK selects 12.09: Indianapolis Colts DST
OM selects 12.10: Green Bay Packers DST
ravnzfan selects 12.11: Baltimore Ravens DST
Tex selects 12.12: Oakland Raiders DST
Defense run.
also, Hear-the-Footsteps and Blue-Kun, who have been put on the clock quickly as a result of our putting up several selections at once, when we've finally gotten to one of our spots...and for being there to post those selections for us when we've sent lists, unsolicited
finally, honorable mention to the Capt'n, who has been kind enough to open his office and collect our data and post the multi pix on occassion when it would have been ackward to send a list to one of the others...it's cooperation like this that keeps me comming back for these
nice work guys!
Kicker Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun!!!
ShadowPhunk
Footballguy
D.Northcutt WR JAX
PM to Shake
PM to Shake
Master Shake
Footballguy
13.13 Reche Caldwell, StL, WR
PM to radballs
PM to radballs
Team Legacy
Footballguy
13.15 DeShaun Foster RB SF
pm'ing.
pm'ing.
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Captain Hook
Footballguy
13-16 Jeff King, CAR, TE
and
14-1 Fred Jackson, BUF, RB
back to TL
and
14-1 Fred Jackson, BUF, RB
back to TL
Team Legacy
Footballguy
The sig says it all..
14.2 LIL LEON WASHINGTON in the return game for the J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS DEFENSE/SPECIAL TEAMS!!
14.2 LIL LEON WASHINGTON in the return game for the J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS DEFENSE/SPECIAL TEAMS!!
Team Legacy
Footballguy
btw: PLEASE PUT PERRY AND OLLIE on either side of me again in these drafts. This has been the FASTEST corner in the history of Survivor leagues!!
Sent a list to Ravnzfan, Pm him when I am up.
Thanks
Thanks
valence
Footballguy
taken int the 10th round by bass
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forwarded to Hook---I'm gone 'til dinner
Master Shake
Footballguy
14.4 shayne Graham, Cin, K
PM to shadow
PM to shadow
ShadowPhunk
Footballguy
14.5 Eric johnson TE NO
PM to Val
PM to Val
Team Legacy
Footballguy
Yes, thanks for clarifying. Sorry for the confusion.
valence
Footballguy
sorry about that. hadn't had my coffee yet.Yes, thanks for clarifying. Sorry for the confusion.
Pimpin Ain't Easy
Footballguy
14.7 Josh Brown, K
Sorry for the delay fellas. I am on travel this week, and internet access is few and far between
Sorry for the delay fellas. I am on travel this week, and internet access is few and far between
Captain Hook
Footballguy
okay, back to the lists
for Old Milwaukee
14-10 Matt Ryan, ATL, QB
and for ravnzfan
14-11 Denver Broncos DST
pming next
for Old Milwaukee
14-10 Matt Ryan, ATL, QB
and for ravnzfan
14-11 Denver Broncos DST
pming next
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Hear-the-Footsteps
Footballguy
14.13: DST - Carolina Panthers
Will PM next guy.
Will PM next guy.
Atomic Punk
Footballguy
14.15 Josh Scobee JAX K
PMing next
I'm off to dinner, will check in afterwards.
PMing next
I'm off to dinner, will check in afterwards.
14.16 St Louis Rams DST23
15.01 Mason Crosby, GB, PK8
15.01 Mason Crosby, GB, PK8
Atomic Punk
Footballguy
15.02 DeSean Jackson PHI WR
PMing joffer
PMing joffer
Hear-the-Footsteps
Footballguy
15.04: RB - Sammy Morris
Will PM next guy.
Edit to add:
Nevermind - just saw he was taken.
I'll just go with:
15.04: WR - James Jones
He was the guy I wanted. But it causes me issues with bye weeks. If I can get past that week, I will feel a lot more comfortable. But with Driver and Lee on my team - all on GB - could be trouble.
Already PM'd next guy.
Okay ignore everything above.
Going to try again.
15.04: PK - Jeff Reed
Will PM next guy.
Edit to add:
Nevermind - just saw he was taken.
I'll just go with:
15.04: WR - James Jones
He was the guy I wanted. But it causes me issues with bye weeks. If I can get past that week, I will feel a lot more comfortable. But with Driver and Lee on my team - all on GB - could be trouble.
Already PM'd next guy.
Okay ignore everything above.
Going to try again.
15.04: PK - Jeff Reed
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Hmmm....Jennings should be his next attempt....then Grant.
I have sent my next pick to Capt'n and BK.
Thanks
Thanks
