SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Well that's something.Now I'm thinking... hey I bet the Marshall owner in my league is pretty ticked right now.
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starting randall cobb over.... (1 Viewer)
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BlitzPickup
Footballguy
Cutler owners too..
Sir Chadwick
Footballguy
Did you miss the start of the game? Apparently he hurt his arm early in the first.
He was immediately back in after the minor "injury" to return the Bears next punt. So clearly the arm wasn't an issue. They just chose not to use him on offense.
shadyridr
Footballguy
did you miss when he came right back in?
Badgers Fan
Footballguy
I am happy I had Cobb on my bench this week but I am also pleased from what I saw tonight. The stats were terrible but the two times he touched the ball he was electric. And he had a nice run earlier in the game called back by a hold. He looks very explosive, and I can see him having some serious value as the season progresses.
Papa Georgio
Footballguy
Just terrible. I'd understand him not being out there if what GB was doing was working but he is their best play maker from what I can tell. All the reading and research really means very little most times. 
Pots
Footballguy
4.8 points
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
I like Cobb a lot and thing he will have some monster games due to his diversity - but....you'll also have your fair share of games like tonight. High risk, high reward. McCluster is similar, so is Sproles. You might get an occassional homerun, but you won't get consistency.I stand by my original freak out. Between Cutler, MArhsall, Cobb and Gould, I got 15 points tonight. Yay?'Insein said:
boonesfarm4me
Footballguy
C'mon people, now Cobb = Sproles? Time for a reality check. Cobb is an exciting player to watch but is not gonna be a consistent fantasy contributor on the GB Packers..
Papa Georgio
Footballguy
Not to be argumentative but who was the best play maker last night? Even with limited touches he made plays. Last week he kept them in the game with a punt return. I am not saying best player I am saying a guy that can make a play. I imagine you will say Nelson and I can see that but he still is leaps and bounds better than old man Driver, Jones and Finley and I own 2 of those guys as well. So sorry Susan Powter, I will not stop the insanity GB.'The Dude said:
GridironMenace
Footballguy
When GB gets up by a lot, Cobb will not play a significant role running the clock out. That will happen the majority of games. How often will GB be trailing by more than one score and be in comeback mode while completely forgetting that they even have a RB, like they did against the 49ers? I'm not sure why people didn't realize this
packersfan
Footballguy
Benson.
Papa Georgio
Footballguy
Serious question, do you think if given the same amount of opportunities that Cobb would've done better or worse? It's hard to compare they are very different players but I think Cobb does just as well if not better. However the coaches know way more than most of us and the game plan worked. I've been high on Benson it was good to see him do so well.
packersfan
Footballguy
Cobb's very talented and explosive. As a Packers' fan I love what he could become and if I owned him in fantasy I'd be excited about his potential both this season and beyond as well. However, he's just a situational player in the Packers' offense at this time. That means he will likely struggle to deliver consistent fantasy production. For every game like he had against the 49ers he'll have one like last night where scheme and formations dictated he was used less frequently. The Packers have a lot of talent offensively and that will make it difficult for everyone to shine every week. It also didn't help that Jennings was out last night. He's a HUGE part of what makes the Packers tick offensively. They need him badly. Get him back and I think you'll see better production from Cobb as well as Finley and Jones. I don't think it's a coincidence that all three played well in Week 1 with Jennings and struggled to do much in Week 2 without him.
Wow, a level headed response from a packer fan (coming from a bear fan
- you should give lessons to Sho Nuff.
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R u implying Cobb is a better running back than Benson? If so, either you are wrong or the Packers should hire you as the offensive coordinator. I am guessing you are wrong.When that offense is on, Cobb will be the 3rd maybe 4th best option on that team behind Jennings, Nelson, Finley, and Benson.
display name
Footballguy
It's just too soon to group him in with Sproles. McCluster... maybe. I don't see many monster games. The Packers have a lot of weapons and he is like #6 on that list. (Jennings, Nelson, Finley, Benson, Jones, then, maybe, Cobb).I like Cobb a lot and thing he will have some monster games due to his diversity - but....you'll also have your fair share of games like tonight. High risk, high reward. McCluster is similar, so is Sproles. You might get an occassional homerun, but you won't get consistency.I stand by my original freak out. Between Cutler, MArhsall, Cobb and Gould, I got 15 points tonight. Yay?'Insein said:
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Footballguy
1) Benson 2) Nelson, 3) Crabtree 4) FinleyNot leaps and bounds better than Jones and Finley. Let him have one season of 600/5 as Jones consistently does and we'll talk. It won't be this season it should be pretty clear to see after last night. They had Finley in at WR, not Cobb. Why won't you guys accept what this means about Cobb? He isn't ready for anything more than wrinkle plays. He isn't ready to be playing receiver.
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Footballguy
I agree with this. Jones, Finley, and to a lesser extent, Cobb, need Jennings in the game to be at their best. Cobb will still get a few 'Cobb' plays like that toss he took for 28 yards, with or without Jennings. Jones especially need Jennings for him to have more opportunity. That is my take from watching the game last night.
Papa Georgio
Footballguy
I should know better but I can't help but reply. I said opportunities, ie time on the field, carries, targets, you know....opportunities. I am very reasonable and when presented with opposing views I respect them...typically. I asked an honest question and he provided an honest response and I respect his point of view. You on the other hand have provided nothing but insults. My question was specifically about last night, I own Finley and had him started, I don't think he played well. Jennings was in street clothes. Jones, sorry but he was inconsistant as ever and caused a TO (as did Finley). So I can see a point for Nelson or Benson but I was really talking about the WR's. Also I think people are confused about the difference between a playmaker and a good player. It is more than possible that Driver is a better player than Cobb but I said playmaker. Cobb is a chunk yardage guy, a turn the field guy. I don't think he was given enough opportunities to do that. That was my whole point. No one likes to see hissy fits in these threads. Can we please just discuss the merits of the guy with out being insulting? FWIW I do have some experience in evaluating talent for a living.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I spent some dough on Cobb in my blind bid waivers and I'm not disappointed.
Last night was just a buzzsaw game for Green Bay, period. It was pretty conservative, Rodgers was getting hammered, atypical game for the Pack. This may be two straight for them like this, where they just didn't look like their usual electric offense, but then again look at the defenses they have gone up against. I'm betting this improves with the schedule.
There is still obviously an intent to get Cobb in the game. I count 5 touches chances by Cobb, though 2 were affected by penalties. Three were on one drive. One was on 3rd down.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/playbyplay/NFL_20120913_CHI@GB
I agree with the point on Jennings, he helps the offense overall.
Benson is Benson: is he really going to pound it out like this every game? I respect his ability but he can be pretty mediocre. GB's defense was destroying Chicago and it was teed up for Benson. I just don't believe this will be the Green Bay M.O. this year.
Finley is not doing himself any favors.
On Cobb's opportunities I thought he looked great; he could have scored on that run with a little luck, he was caught at the 12 yard line or so. I think that kind of play will only encourage GB to use him more not less.
In 0.5 PPR Cobb put up 5.3. That sounds poor, but 2 plays got called back, he almost scored, and meanwhile Cutler had 4.7, Jennings was a no-show, Jones did zip, Rodgers was a 10.5, Marshall was a 3.4. Finley was a 3.4. I'm feeling ok about this.
Last night was just a buzzsaw game for Green Bay, period. It was pretty conservative, Rodgers was getting hammered, atypical game for the Pack. This may be two straight for them like this, where they just didn't look like their usual electric offense, but then again look at the defenses they have gone up against. I'm betting this improves with the schedule.
There is still obviously an intent to get Cobb in the game. I count 5 touches chances by Cobb, though 2 were affected by penalties. Three were on one drive. One was on 3rd down.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/playbyplay/NFL_20120913_CHI@GB
I agree with the point on Jennings, he helps the offense overall.
Benson is Benson: is he really going to pound it out like this every game? I respect his ability but he can be pretty mediocre. GB's defense was destroying Chicago and it was teed up for Benson. I just don't believe this will be the Green Bay M.O. this year.
Finley is not doing himself any favors.
On Cobb's opportunities I thought he looked great; he could have scored on that run with a little luck, he was caught at the 12 yard line or so. I think that kind of play will only encourage GB to use him more not less.
In 0.5 PPR Cobb put up 5.3. That sounds poor, but 2 plays got called back, he almost scored, and meanwhile Cutler had 4.7, Jennings was a no-show, Jones did zip, Rodgers was a 10.5, Marshall was a 3.4. Finley was a 3.4. I'm feeling ok about this.
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packersfan
Footballguy
I don't either. I think their personality is far closer to Week 1 than what we saw last night. That's why I think if Jennings returns next week and stays healthy you'll see much better production moving forward from Cobb, Finley and Jones. All three will have their dud games but there will be some and perhaps plenty of good ones too. If I was a Cobb owner I wouldn't panic either. I'm a Jones owner and I'm holding for now. This is a pass-first offense and I expect that to remain the case. But Jennings needs to stay healthy in order for it to reach its full potential.
johnadams
Footballguy
I about crapped my pants when Driver got the TD pass. Good for the old guy, but I didn't see the number quick enough and had a fleeting moment of hope, only to get crushed down to reality. I was hoping I could catch lightning in a bottle and it caught me instead. Oh well, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Strangely, I think this has more to do with how you view the GB D. It seems that if GB gets a lead, he's the one who will suffer the most in the offense. GB was able to exploit what everyone talked about prior to the season, namely the atrocious pass blocking of Chicago, and I'm not sure they'll do that every week.
need2know
Footballguy
yeah I feel like the flow of the game will dictate. If they are losing or the game is close that equals more cobb. If they are winning and killing the clock that will be less cobb or in this case no cobb at all in the second half.
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Papa Georgio
Footballguy
I figured the first 2 games might be tough, but I think a part of me was hoping that since they were playing good teams and playing at home that the other team would be matching them for points thus making Green Bay keep playing. They do seem a little off right now. It just hasn't been clean.
packersfan
Footballguy
Nope. I think Week 1 was a lot about the 49ers' defense. They are damn good. Last night I thought a lot of it was not having Jennings. However, it's also true that Rodgers hasn't been really good in several games dating back to last season. He's missing throws he normally makes - the possible TD to Jones was a good example last night. Jones should've caught the ball and adjusted better but Rodgers could have made a better throw. That should've been an easy TD. Jones had his guy beat.
Alright, no offense just having a little fun. It's a tough line cause better players are going to get more opportunities. Playmakers - if I am following your definition - have to make the most of less opportunities. This type of playmaker will be inconsistent from week to week. That sounds like a fantasy roller coaster with more lows than highs.
xenith
Footballguy
Well we all just need to learn the lesson.
Cobb is a situational player on a very diversified offense. Anyone's guess when he'll break out for several touches.
I also started cutler, so my week is hosed, and it's Friday.
Hope some others here have better luck over the weekend!
Cobb is a situational player on a very diversified offense. Anyone's guess when he'll break out for several touches.
I also started cutler, so my week is hosed, and it's Friday.
Hope some others here have better luck over the weekend!
Probably cost me the win.
Cliff Clavin
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