Stevan Ridley (1 Viewer)

[steveski]

Just traded him for andre johnson.

I just traded him for Brandon Lloyd in one of my leagues.

 

[zamboni]

Just traded him for andre johnson.

Nice job there.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

ABANDON SHIP!!!!

What is Dodd's thinking with his rest of the year ranking of Ridley? Didn't he get the memo? Ridley is about to fall of the face of the earth!

 

[Workhorse]

I've seen a lot of posts advocating trading Ridley. In a dynasty league what are some WR's you see as comparable value. Please no others could benefit from this discussion.

Don't know about WR but I just got the McFadden owner to trade me DMC and Manningham for Ridley, Blackmon and Pettigrew. Got to move on Ridley while you can. His value will never be higher this year.
[*]Pats offense is unpredictable week to week.

[*]Woodhead was already getting the 3rd looks and catches out of the backfield.

[*]Hernandez eventual return will mean more air attack in the short passing game instead of runs.

[*]Bolden surprise outburst shows BB he has many backs to carry the load.

I think you can get a great deal for Ridley because of what he's done so far but IMO, his value goes down starting this week.

That's what guys said after week 1 too. I think he'll be a very solid #2 RB with potential for a #1.

Just don't see it for the reasons I listed. When the Pats had a dedicated runner in Corey Dillon, there was little competition for the ball and Brady hadn't become the prolific passer he is today yet. He had 1 superstar year where he got 345 carries for 1600 yds. The pats have 3 viable RBs in the rotation right now and Shane Vereen sitting around as well. On top of that is the fact that the Pats offense goes through Brady. They are not all of sudden going to switch to a power run team. Bellichek may make a game plan here and there that call for more runs but for the most part, the air attack is what the Pats will focus on. Just too many mouths to feed in a pass first offense. I think we got what we could out of Ridley and its time to sell high while he can get you something valuable in return.

I don't know. It's pretty clear to me as a Pats fan that Ridley is often times the best weapon in that offense. He runs downhill and gets plenty of yards after contact. Belichick and McDaniels are coming to find out that the 2012 Pats are most efficient once Ridley gets going.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I really don't get the hate for this guy? He's 7th in the league in rushing attempts, has a respectable 4.6 yd/attempt average, 3 tds and plays for an explosive offense that will run the ball near the goalline. Yes he splits carries but will still get plenty to do enough damage. Looks like a legitimate # 2 rb and with low # 1 upside. Yet it seems like everyone is trying to sell.

 

[Arizona Ron]

I want to go on record - I'm staying with Ridley.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I really don't get the hate for this guy? He's 7th in the league in rushing attempts, has a respectable 4.6 yd/attempt average, 3 tds and plays for an explosive offense that will run the ball near the goalline. Yes he splits carries but will still get plenty to do enough damage. Looks like a legitimate # 2 rb and with low # 1 upside. Yet it seems like everyone is trying to sell.

Everyone's falling all over themselves to look and be ahead of the curve. I think it's LOL funny what some are ditching him for.

 

[Insein]

I really don't get the hate for this guy? He's 7th in the league in rushing attempts, has a respectable 4.6 yd/attempt average, 3 tds and plays for an explosive offense that will run the ball near the goalline. Yes he splits carries but will still get plenty to do enough damage. Looks like a legitimate # 2 rb and with low # 1 upside. Yet it seems like everyone is trying to sell.

Its not hate. Ridley is obviously a talent. Its the situation. The Pats have 4 viable running backs in Ridley, Woodhead, Bolden and Vereen. While Ridley may get the bulk, woodhead has shown that he has the 3rd down role and the hurry up role cemented. Bolden blew up so Bellichek will want to use him in certain situations and Vereen is liked for some reason so you got to imagine he'll get a handful of carries as well. I'm just looking at opportunity. Ridley is going to get less opportunities going forward than he has because the Pats have options. That's why if you can flip him now for a better level player, then do so. I don't think you'll get that chance in 2 weeks.

 

[TakiToki]

It's an interesting situation, no doubt, but might be time to buy low on a guy coming off 22-106-2.

 

[tombonneau]

I really don't get the hate for this guy? He's 7th in the league in rushing attempts, has a respectable 4.6 yd/attempt average, 3 tds and plays for an explosive offense that will run the ball near the goalline. Yes he splits carries but will still get plenty to do enough damage. Looks like a legitimate # 2 rb and with low # 1 upside. Yet it seems like everyone is trying to sell.

Its not hate. Ridley is obviously a talent. Its the situation. The Pats have 4 viable running backs in Ridley, Woodhead, Bolden and Vereen. While Ridley may get the bulk, woodhead has shown that he has the 3rd down role and the hurry up role cemented. Bolden blew up so Bellichek will want to use him in certain situations and Vereen is liked for some reason so you got to imagine he'll get a handful of carries as well. I'm just looking at opportunity. Ridley is going to get less opportunities going forward than he has because the Pats have options. That's why if you can flip him now for a better level player, then do so. I don't think you'll get that chance in 2 weeks.

You say this coming off his career game for number of carries.

 

[asuterlowe]

I really don't get the hate for this guy? He's 7th in the league in rushing attempts, has a respectable 4.6 yd/attempt average, 3 tds and plays for an explosive offense that will run the ball near the goalline. Yes he splits carries but will still get plenty to do enough damage. Looks like a legitimate # 2 rb and with low # 1 upside. Yet it seems like everyone is trying to sell.

Its not hate. Ridley is obviously a talent. Its the situation. The Pats have 4 viable running backs in Ridley, Woodhead, Bolden and Vereen. While Ridley may get the bulk, woodhead has shown that he has the 3rd down role and the hurry up role cemented. Bolden blew up so Bellichek will want to use him in certain situations and Vereen is liked for some reason so you got to imagine he'll get a handful of carries as well. I'm just looking at opportunity. Ridley is going to get less opportunities going forward than he has because the Pats have options. That's why if you can flip him now for a better level player, then do so. I don't think you'll get that chance in 2 weeks.

You say this coming off his career game for number of carries.

oh you mean the game where they scored 53 points and he didn't lead the team in rushing?

 

[tombonneau]

I really don't get the hate for this guy? He's 7th in the league in rushing attempts, has a respectable 4.6 yd/attempt average, 3 tds and plays for an explosive offense that will run the ball near the goalline. Yes he splits carries but will still get plenty to do enough damage. Looks like a legitimate # 2 rb and with low # 1 upside. Yet it seems like everyone is trying to sell.

Its not hate. Ridley is obviously a talent. Its the situation. The Pats have 4 viable running backs in Ridley, Woodhead, Bolden and Vereen. While Ridley may get the bulk, woodhead has shown that he has the 3rd down role and the hurry up role cemented. Bolden blew up so Bellichek will want to use him in certain situations and Vereen is liked for some reason so you got to imagine he'll get a handful of carries as well. I'm just looking at opportunity. Ridley is going to get less opportunities going forward than he has because the Pats have options. That's why if you can flip him now for a better level player, then do so. I don't think you'll get that chance in 2 weeks.

You say this coming off his career game for number of carries.

oh you mean the game where they scored 53 points and he didn't lead the team in rushing?

Did you watch he game? I'm a Pats homer. Bills D stayed in a small nickel the entire game daring the Pats to run. Even when the Pats were tearing them up they refused to put an extra man in the box and paid the price. Number of carries in that game is far more relevant than total yards for future fantasy purposes. Bolden had huge holes on several runs and really didnt make any of his own yards, converse to Ridley who makes plenty of yards on his own. Had Ridley been in on those same run plays he'd have gotten those yards and then some. It stinks that he's not in a sitch where he'll get 30 carries in a game like that but no one who took Ridley was expecting that sort of workload.

Not singling you out, but with this Ridley situation it's very easy to distinguish those who watch the games vs those who read box scores.

 

[asuterlowe]

I really don't get the hate for this guy? He's 7th in the league in rushing attempts, has a respectable 4.6 yd/attempt average, 3 tds and plays for an explosive offense that will run the ball near the goalline. Yes he splits carries but will still get plenty to do enough damage. Looks like a legitimate # 2 rb and with low # 1 upside. Yet it seems like everyone is trying to sell.

Its not hate. Ridley is obviously a talent. Its the situation. The Pats have 4 viable running backs in Ridley, Woodhead, Bolden and Vereen. While Ridley may get the bulk, woodhead has shown that he has the 3rd down role and the hurry up role cemented. Bolden blew up so Bellichek will want to use him in certain situations and Vereen is liked for some reason so you got to imagine he'll get a handful of carries as well. I'm just looking at opportunity. Ridley is going to get less opportunities going forward than he has because the Pats have options. That's why if you can flip him now for a better level player, then do so. I don't think you'll get that chance in 2 weeks.

You say this coming off his career game for number of carries.

oh you mean the game where they scored 53 points and he didn't lead the team in rushing?

Did you watch he game? I'm a Pats homer. Bills D stayed in a small nickel the entire game daring the Pats to run. Even when the Pats were tearing them up they refused to put an extra man in the box and paid the price. Number of carries in that game is far more relevant than total yards for future fantasy purposes. Bolden had huge holes on several runs and really didnt make any of his own yards, converse to Ridley who makes plenty of yards on his own. Had Ridley been in on those same run plays he'd have gotten those yards and then some. It stinks that he's not in a sitch where he'll get 30 carries in a game like that but no one who took Ridley was expecting that sort of workload.

Not singling you out, but with this Ridley situation it's very easy to distinguish those who watch the games vs those who read box scores.

This was mostly my point. He did have a career high in carries, in a game where the other team basically let him and the rest of the patriots run all over them. I doubt he will repeat that number of carries. No team is going to sell out on the pass again this year, especially after this game. So we are looking at a talented guy getting typically 15ish carries a game, respectable, but I see him falling off from where he is currently valued. And you never know when they decide Woodhead or someone else will get all the carries like the Baltimore game.

 

[Road Warriors]

I really don't get the hate for this guy? He's 7th in the league in rushing attempts, has a respectable 4.6 yd/attempt average, 3 tds and plays for an explosive offense that will run the ball near the goalline. Yes he splits carries but will still get plenty to do enough damage. Looks like a legitimate # 2 rb and with low # 1 upside. Yet it seems like everyone is trying to sell.

Its not hate. Ridley is obviously a talent. Its the situation. The Pats have 4 viable running backs in Ridley, Woodhead, Bolden and Vereen. While Ridley may get the bulk, woodhead has shown that he has the 3rd down role and the hurry up role cemented. Bolden blew up so Bellichek will want to use him in certain situations and Vereen is liked for some reason so you got to imagine he'll get a handful of carries as well. I'm just looking at opportunity. Ridley is going to get less opportunities going forward than he has because the Pats have options. That's why if you can flip him now for a better level player, then do so. I don't think you'll get that chance in 2 weeks.

You say this coming off his career game for number of carries.

oh you mean the game where they scored 53 points and he didn't lead the team in rushing?

Did you watch he game? I'm a Pats homer. Bills D stayed in a small nickel the entire game daring the Pats to run. Even when the Pats were tearing them up they refused to put an extra man in the box and paid the price. Number of carries in that game is far more relevant than total yards for future fantasy purposes. Bolden had huge holes on several runs and really didnt make any of his own yards, converse to Ridley who makes plenty of yards on his own. Had Ridley been in on those same run plays he'd have gotten those yards and then some. It stinks that he's not in a sitch where he'll get 30 carries in a game like that but no one who took Ridley was expecting that sort of workload.

Not singling you out, but with this Ridley situation it's very easy to distinguish those who watch the games vs those who read box scores.

This was mostly my point. He did have a career high in carries, in a game where the other team basically let him and the rest of the patriots run all over them. I doubt he will repeat that number of carries. No team is going to sell out on the pass again this year, especially after this game. So we are looking at a talented guy getting typically 15ish carries a game, respectable, but I see him falling off from where he is currently valued. And you never know when they decide Woodhead or someone else will get all the carries like the Baltimore game.

Another Pats homer here... A couple of thoughts on this.I don't think one game of running success is going to get teams stacking the box and daring the Pats to throw. The value of this offense is it's good enough in all phases to cause problems, but if you talk to D coordinators across the league, they'll fear the passing game far more than the running game of the Patriots.

Second thought is I hope, after the BAL debacle, they'll never determine that Woodhead is the right primary option in the run game again.

Final thought... You mention Ridley falling off from where he is currently valued. I see a number of "fans" saying Ridley is a RB2 with some upside potential. Are you suggesting he's going to fall off from that level? That Ridley, in that offense, is no better than a RB3 or worse? BJGE ( a lesser talent, IMO ) finished RB19 in 2010, RB28 in 2011. Ridley's currently averaging 18 carries a game, 9th in rush yards, T3 for TDs, and is 12th in PPG FFL scoring. Even with a dropoff, he's a legit RB2. The 15 carries you're touting as the reason for decline are only 3 / gm less than he's averaging. IMO, if Ridley stays healthy, he'll be in the top 20 RBs in ppg fantasy scoring, and could surprise to the upside. I think those advocating selling are still undervaluing Ridley.

 

[Insein]

I really don't get the hate for this guy? He's 7th in the league in rushing attempts, has a respectable 4.6 yd/attempt average, 3 tds and plays for an explosive offense that will run the ball near the goalline. Yes he splits carries but will still get plenty to do enough damage. Looks like a legitimate # 2 rb and with low # 1 upside. Yet it seems like everyone is trying to sell.

Its not hate. Ridley is obviously a talent. Its the situation. The Pats have 4 viable running backs in Ridley, Woodhead, Bolden and Vereen. While Ridley may get the bulk, woodhead has shown that he has the 3rd down role and the hurry up role cemented. Bolden blew up so Bellichek will want to use him in certain situations and Vereen is liked for some reason so you got to imagine he'll get a handful of carries as well. I'm just looking at opportunity. Ridley is going to get less opportunities going forward than he has because the Pats have options. That's why if you can flip him now for a better level player, then do so. I don't think you'll get that chance in 2 weeks.

You say this coming off his career game for number of carries.

oh you mean the game where they scored 53 points and he didn't lead the team in rushing?

Did you watch he game? I'm a Pats homer. Bills D stayed in a small nickel the entire game daring the Pats to run. Even when the Pats were tearing them up they refused to put an extra man in the box and paid the price. Number of carries in that game is far more relevant than total yards for future fantasy purposes. Bolden had huge holes on several runs and really didnt make any of his own yards, converse to Ridley who makes plenty of yards on his own. Had Ridley been in on those same run plays he'd have gotten those yards and then some. It stinks that he's not in a sitch where he'll get 30 carries in a game like that but no one who took Ridley was expecting that sort of workload.

Not singling you out, but with this Ridley situation it's very easy to distinguish those who watch the games vs those who read box scores.

This was mostly my point. He did have a career high in carries, in a game where the other team basically let him and the rest of the patriots run all over them. I doubt he will repeat that number of carries. No team is going to sell out on the pass again this year, especially after this game. So we are looking at a talented guy getting typically 15ish carries a game, respectable, but I see him falling off from where he is currently valued. And you never know when they decide Woodhead or someone else will get all the carries like the Baltimore game.

Precisely. No one is saying Ridley is going to fall off the map. I just think he's going to come back to earth a little bit. I see him still getting the majority of carries for the Pats but how many run plays there are each week depends on the game plan. As well as Ridley has been, its not in Bellichek's MO to only go with one guy. I don't see Ridley getting 20 carries a game again. So with that assumption, I am inclined to move him while his value is at its highest. I drafted Ridley in the 9th round. He won me 2 games so far. I traded him for Darren McFadden, a consensus 1st rounder, who I feel has a lighter schedule than he faced in the first 4 games for the rest of the way. Another guy got Andre Johnson who is looking like a top 5 WR again. IF you can get value like that for a guy you drafted in the 5th to 9th round, I feel you do it. Just my opinion though.

 

[Road Warriors]

I really don't get the hate for this guy? He's 7th in the league in rushing attempts, has a respectable 4.6 yd/attempt average, 3 tds and plays for an explosive offense that will run the ball near the goalline. Yes he splits carries but will still get plenty to do enough damage. Looks like a legitimate # 2 rb and with low # 1 upside. Yet it seems like everyone is trying to sell.

Its not hate. Ridley is obviously a talent. Its the situation. The Pats have 4 viable running backs in Ridley, Woodhead, Bolden and Vereen. While Ridley may get the bulk, woodhead has shown that he has the 3rd down role and the hurry up role cemented. Bolden blew up so Bellichek will want to use him in certain situations and Vereen is liked for some reason so you got to imagine he'll get a handful of carries as well. I'm just looking at opportunity. Ridley is going to get less opportunities going forward than he has because the Pats have options. That's why if you can flip him now for a better level player, then do so. I don't think you'll get that chance in 2 weeks.

You say this coming off his career game for number of carries.

oh you mean the game where they scored 53 points and he didn't lead the team in rushing?

Did you watch he game? I'm a Pats homer. Bills D stayed in a small nickel the entire game daring the Pats to run. Even when the Pats were tearing them up they refused to put an extra man in the box and paid the price. Number of carries in that game is far more relevant than total yards for future fantasy purposes. Bolden had huge holes on several runs and really didnt make any of his own yards, converse to Ridley who makes plenty of yards on his own. Had Ridley been in on those same run plays he'd have gotten those yards and then some. It stinks that he's not in a sitch where he'll get 30 carries in a game like that but no one who took Ridley was expecting that sort of workload.

Not singling you out, but with this Ridley situation it's very easy to distinguish those who watch the games vs those who read box scores.

This was mostly my point. He did have a career high in carries, in a game where the other team basically let him and the rest of the patriots run all over them. I doubt he will repeat that number of carries. No team is going to sell out on the pass again this year, especially after this game. So we are looking at a talented guy getting typically 15ish carries a game, respectable, but I see him falling off from where he is currently valued. And you never know when they decide Woodhead or someone else will get all the carries like the Baltimore game.

Precisely. No one is saying Ridley is going to fall off the map. I just think he's going to come back to earth a little bit. I see him still getting the majority of carries for the Pats but how many run plays there are each week depends on the game plan. As well as Ridley has been, its not in Bellichek's MO to only go with one guy. I don't see Ridley getting 20 carries a game again. So with that assumption, I am inclined to move him while his value is at its highest. I drafted Ridley in the 9th round. He won me 2 games so far. I traded him for Darren McFadden, a consensus 1st rounder, who I feel has a lighter schedule than he faced in the first 4 games for the rest of the way. Another guy got Andre Johnson who is looking like a top 5 WR again. IF you can get value like that for a guy you drafted in the 5th to 9th round, I feel you do it. Just my opinion though.

If you can get that sort of value ( McFadden, AJ ) in trade for Ridley, all I can say is WOW! In my leagues, I haven't seen that kind of exuberance for Ridley, even with his 100/2 performance. I view Ridley as a RB2 with upside. If you can get RB1 or WR1 value in trade, good for you!

I guess I'm advocating that Ridley is among the top RB2 candidates I'd hold onto unless offered something a tier higher. There's a pretty short list of RBs I'd trade him for. Foster, Rice, McCoy, McFadden, Murray, Charles, MJD, Forte, Lynch. A couple of others I'd consider... Bradshaw, Matthews, FJax, Spiller, Gore.

Given talent and situation, I think he's at least on par with the bottom tier here.

 

[Badgers Fan]

So how crazy is Belichick when it comes to fumbles? Bolden is being used as the clock killing back now after that Ridley fumble. Ridley has obvious talent but did have a bit of a fumbling problem in college if I recall correctly.

 

[UnderDawgs]

I sat him for the last two weeks.

Eff me.

 

[ponchsox]

So how crazy is Belichick when it comes to fumbles? Bolden is being used as the clock killing back now after that Ridley fumble. Ridley has obvious talent but did have a bit of a fumbling problem in college if I recall correctly.

He hates it, especially in key situations. This opens the door for Bolden.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

So how crazy is Belichick when it comes to fumbles? Bolden is being used as the clock killing back now after that Ridley fumble. Ridley has obvious talent but did have a bit of a fumbling problem in college if I recall correctly.

He hates it, especially in key situations. This opens the door for Bolden.

 

[Insein]

I may regret my trade for McFadden. Time will tell I guess.

 

[ponchsox]

So how crazy is Belichick when it comes to fumbles? Bolden is being used as the clock killing back now after that Ridley fumble. Ridley has obvious talent but did have a bit of a fumbling problem in college if I recall correctly.

He hates it, especially in key situations. This opens the door for Bolden.

Ridley owner in denial?

 

[fred_1_15301]

So how crazy is Belichick when it comes to fumbles? Bolden is being used as the clock killing back now after that Ridley fumble. Ridley has obvious talent but did have a bit of a fumbling problem in college if I recall correctly.

He hates it, especially in key situations. This opens the door for Bolden.

Ridley owner in denial?

Ridley is a beast. Fumble aside, 5 weeks is enough proof that he's a legit # 1 rb.

 

[Alluro]

Why was Vereen in one goal line carry?

 

[DarkKnightsGuru]

bec Belichick does that he uses Bolden Vereen and Ridley on goaline he rotates in and out

 

[ponchsox]

So how crazy is Belichick when it comes to fumbles? Bolden is being used as the clock killing back now after that Ridley fumble. Ridley has obvious talent but did have a bit of a fumbling problem in college if I recall correctly.

He hates it, especially in key situations. This opens the door for Bolden.

Ridley owner in denial?

Ridley is a beast. Fumble aside, 5 weeks is enough proof that he's a legit # 1 rb.

Belichick doesn't care about fantasy stats. If Ridley becomes unreliable, he won't see the field much. I'm not saying he's losing his job over one fumble, but if this becomes a trend Belichick won't hesitate go with his other RBs.

 

[fred_1_15301]

So how crazy is Belichick when it comes to fumbles? Bolden is being used as the clock killing back now after that Ridley fumble. Ridley has obvious talent but did have a bit of a fumbling problem in college if I recall correctly.

He hates it, especially in key situations. This opens the door for Bolden.

Ridley owner in denial?

Ridley is a beast. Fumble aside, 5 weeks is enough proof that he's a legit # 1 rb.

Belichick doesn't care about fantasy stats. If Ridley becomes unreliable, he won't see the field much. I'm not saying he's losing his job over one fumble, but if this becomes a trend Belichick won't hesitate go with his other RBs.

Agree but I don't think it becomes a trend. So I guess we're in agreement that if he holds onto the ball, he's an RB 1?

 

[flooredyas]

While Bolden, aside from one 24 yarder, basically put up a Chris Johnson imitation till the end, Ridley's fumble is indeed something that doesn't sit well with Bilichek. That came at a crucial time. Bolden may see a boost due to this. However, facing Seattle in Seattle, shouldn't cause any rush to insert him into anyone's lineup next week.

Bolden owner, grasping at straws. Wouldn't expect any news out of NE reguarding the situation either.

 

[lyon812]

Can't see him losing his job, but the fumbles are why Bolden gets goal line carries. Still, considering how many other starting RBs have TDs vultured on a regular basis, it's no reason to downgrade Ridley's projected production. He's had 18+ carries in 4 of 5 games, for a huge chunk of yardage. That's fantasy value.

 

[SameSongNDance]

The fact that this guy can produce amidst the Belitrix is mind boggling.

 

[Shutout]

So how crazy is Belichick when it comes to fumbles? Bolden is being used as the clock killing back now after that Ridley fumble. Ridley has obvious talent but did have a bit of a fumbling problem in college if I recall correctly.

He hates it, especially in key situations. This opens the door for Bolden.

Ridley shows so much ability to do what New England wants him to do but those fumbles simply won't be acceptable. It may not be like Tom coughlin exciting a player but I bet you will see the next time they are in clock killing mode, bolden or wood head will be used a lot more. I think this has to erode just bait of Ridleys production.

 

[tombonneau]

Can't see him losing his job, but the fumbles are why Bolden gets goal line carries. Still, considering how many other starting RBs have TDs vultured on a regular basis, it's no reason to downgrade Ridley's projected production. He's had 18+ carries in 4 of 5 games, for a huge chunk of yardage. That's fantasy value.

This is simply not true. The goal line back in any given situation is usually determined by what the rotation has been for that series. Vereen got a score today simply because he was on the field the prior play and they went no huddle.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Can't see him losing his job, but the fumbles are why Bolden gets goal line carries. Still, considering how many other starting RBs have TDs vultured on a regular basis, it's no reason to downgrade Ridley's projected production. He's had 18+ carries in 4 of 5 games, for a huge chunk of yardage. That's fantasy value.

This is simply not true. The goal line back in any given situation is usually determined by what the rotation has been for that series. Vereen got a score today simply because he was on the field the prior play and they went no huddle.

Watch the games.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Here's Teddy Bruschi's response this morning to a question about Ridley losing carries because of fumbling:

Hi Tedy. Does Belichick sit Ridley because of what is now a history of ball security issues? He's fumbled 3 weeks in a row (at least fumble #1 went out of bounds), after fumbling twice last year in limited reps.

Why do you think you've seen Bolden more? You don't have to remind Bill Belichick about the tendencies of his players. The tendency of Ridley right now is that the more carries you give him, the more likely he is to fumble. Belichick knows this and I'm sure he has let Ridley know this. How do you fix this? You lighten the load for a fumble-prone back.

Tedy (9:15 AM)

Woodhead will continue to get his handful of carries. Bolden too. They will continue to lighten the load on Ridley as the year goes on.

Tedy (9:17 AM)

And Ridley may need the lighten load, because the book is starting to be written on him. He may not be able to handle the load. Defensive coaches know that hits on offensive players take a cumulative effect. The more you hit players, some of them have the tendency to wear down. Ridley is starting to develop a reputation of spitting the seed. It isn't a reputation you want throughout the league.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Love how Tedy keeps trying to hug the Patriots as if they were still his and they gave 2 craps about him.

Maybe he's right, because he's just saying what many others media types are, as they try to guess what Belichick is going to do.

But I'm pretty positive that we've seen Bolden more partly because the Pats are owning teams on the ground the past 2 weeks. Bolden had 14 carries this week....wow, that's a lot! But the guy who the book has been written about got 28 carries. What does that mean Patriot Tedy? Teach us exactly what is going on behind closed doors you loud mouthed d-bag.

 

[Bo Skiboski]

My gut says deal Ridley high but I can't figure out the RB i'd target to deal him for. You're not going to get those top guys for him and nobody in that next tier fires me up to make a deal. Richardson may be the guy but you'd have to throw something in I'd think.

 

[MCguidance]

I'm an owner and believer in Ridley. That being said, fumbling is not a good thing, no matter how we slice it. Will he lose touches, maybe. Will he get more touches? Probably not. He fumbles again and owners should be concerned.

 

[MCguidance]

Love how Tedy keeps trying to hug the Patriots as if they were still his and they gave 2 craps about him.Maybe he's right, because he's just saying what many others media types are, as they try to guess what Belichick is going to do. But I'm pretty positive that we've seen Bolden more partly because the Pats are owning teams on the ground the past 2 weeks. Bolden had 14 carries this week....wow, that's a lot! But the guy who the book has been written about got 28 carries. What does that mean Patriot Tedy? Teach us exactly what is going on behind closed doors you loud mouthed d-bag.

Relax guy.Ridley got the bulk of those carries prior to the fumble, though.

 

[MCguidance]

My gut says deal Ridley high but I can't figure out the RB i'd target to deal him for. You're not going to get those top guys for him and nobody in that next tier fires me up to make a deal. Richardson may be the guy but you'd have to throw something in I'd think.

Most people that drafted Ridley likely have him as an RB3 or RB4. I'm looking at packaging him for a top tier WR as I package him with a second tier WR.

 

[lyon812]

Can't see him losing his job, but the fumbles are why Bolden gets goal line carries. Still, considering how many other starting RBs have TDs vultured on a regular basis, it's no reason to downgrade Ridley's projected production. He's had 18+ carries in 4 of 5 games, for a huge chunk of yardage. That's fantasy value.

This is simply not true. The goal line back in any given situation is usually determined by what the rotation has been for that series. Vereen got a score today simply because he was on the field the prior play and they went no huddle.

Watch the games.

Seen every one. There's been repeated evidence that Belicheck doesn't like Ridley's fumbling, both last year and this. The point remains that Ridley is still extremely productive and shouldn't be devalued because of the occasional goal line vulture.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Love how Tedy keeps trying to hug the Patriots as if they were still his and they gave 2 craps about him.Maybe he's right, because he's just saying what many others media types are, as they try to guess what Belichick is going to do. But I'm pretty positive that we've seen Bolden more partly because the Pats are owning teams on the ground the past 2 weeks. Bolden had 14 carries this week....wow, that's a lot! But the guy who the book has been written about got 28 carries. What does that mean Patriot Tedy? Teach us exactly what is going on behind closed doors you loud mouthed d-bag.

Relax guy.Ridley got the bulk of those carries prior to the fumble, though.

I'm pretty relaxed about the 2012 Patriots.....it's Tedy who I loathe. He tries so hard to stay relevant but is just a loudmouth. Other former Pats who give their 2 cents for ESPN are not nearly as annoying.

 

[shadyridr]

My gut says deal Ridley high but I can't figure out the RB i'd target to deal him for. You're not going to get those top guys for him and nobody in that next tier fires me up to make a deal. Richardson may be the guy but you'd have to throw something in I'd think.

why would anyone sell an rb1 high?

 

[Bo Skiboski]

My gut says deal Ridley high but I can't figure out the RB i'd target to deal him for. You're not going to get those top guys for him and nobody in that next tier fires me up to make a deal. Richardson may be the guy but you'd have to throw something in I'd think.

why would anyone sell an rb1 high?

Because of the fumbles and Belichick's love for getting all of his rb's involved. That fumble couldn't have happened at a worse time yesterday. Ridley's been great but if you can buy low on another guy I say do it.

 

[Badgers Fan]

Hopefully he's more accurate than Bruschi. But Belichick won't do us any favors, hoodie will keep his thoughts under wraps making this a possible "avoid" situation in an already tough game at Seattle. My guess is that Ridley's carries just drop a little bit, but he should maintain a high ypc. The Baltimore game they planned not to use him much, but in each other game he's gotten roughly 22 carries per game. Even if that drops to the 17-18 range, he's still looking at 80+ yards per week. The fumble may put his status as an entrenched rb1 on hold, but he will at the least be a rock solid rb2 with rb1 upside.

 

[Billy Bats]

The kid is third in the league in carries, behind only Lynch and Foster. And yet there's talk of him being benched, or a greatly reduced role? Nonsense.

 

[letter_j]

The kid is third in the league in carries, behind only Lynch and Foster. And yet there's talk of him being benched, or a greatly reduced role? Nonsense.

A Boston beat writer seems to agree:The Boston Globe's Greg A. Bedard doesn't expect Stevan Ridley to be benched for his recent fumbling woes.That's exactly what happened to Ridley near the end of 2011, but Bedard believes he has "more rope now as the lead dog." Of course, Ridley's excellent play is also a major point in his favor, as he's averaging 4.8 yards per carry and 98 yards per game. Although undrafted rookie Brandon Bolden has been coming on strong the past two weeks, only Arian Foster, Marshawn Lynch and Jamaal Charles have more carries than Ridley. Coach Bill Belichick shouldn't be expected to offer any meaningful insight into the situation this week, but Ridley should remain the Pats' workhorse against the Seahawks.Source: Greg A. Bedard on Twitter Oct 8 - 3:02 PMhttp://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6487/stevan-ridley

 

[Shutout]

Considering the Patriots lead the NFL in rushing attempts (yeah, let that sink into your noggin for a minute), I'd say it's far less about Ridley being "the guy" and its more about there is just simply enough to go around, a lot of guys are going to get carries, and what we are talking about now is kind of like the difference between "is he the 18-22" touch guy or the "12-16" touch guy? This team is averaging 38 rushes a game. No One player is going to be "the guy" and pack in 28-30+ every week; they can't.

Right now, I'd be happy to have Ridley or Bolden and, actually, I would prefer they both stay healthy and in good graces because if they lose a guy, then the Pats might be more inclined to go back to throwing it 50+ times a game. At least this way, there is enough food on the plate for everyone.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Every year, I feel like there are a few guys who will be undervalued no matter what they do. This year, Ridley seems to be that guy. I understand that the fumbling problem exists and could potentially be an issue. However, I don't buy the argument that splitting carries will tremendously reduce his value. He's still a lock to get 15-25 carries a game and he's shown that he can do some serious damage with those carries. Who cares if he splits carries on a team that apparently loves to run the ball? They have a potent offense and he'll still get his share of goalline opportunities. All I've been hearing for the past 3 weeks is to sell and I don't get it. I've heard DMAC's name come up as a potential target but I think his situation is much worse than Ridley's. Although I have both and am thinking of starting DMAC over Ridley next week

 

[sporthenry]

Every year, I feel like there are a few guys who will be undervalued no matter what they do. This year, Ridley seems to be that guy. I understand that the fumbling problem exists and could potentially be an issue. However, I don't buy the argument that splitting carries will tremendously reduce his value. He's still a lock to get 15-25 carries a game and he's shown that he can do some serious damage with those carries. Who cares if he splits carries on a team that apparently loves to run the ball? They have a potent offense and he'll still get his share of goalline opportunities. All I've been hearing for the past 3 weeks is to sell and I don't get it. I've heard DMAC's name come up as a potential target but I think his situation is much worse than Ridley's. Although I have both and am thinking of starting DMAC over Ridley next week

Well I have Ridley as RB3 in a Yahoo 2RB/3WR league so I'm trying to sell high at this point. I have Matthews and Charles on byes week 7 so after that, I'm looking to sell high. Yes, he has been doing very well and NE will remain committed to the run, but BB will go with the hot hand and fumbles are the #1 way to the dog house and getting out of his dog house isn't that easy. I think targeting someone like DMAC isn't terrible b/c DMAC has the ability to turn his season around and take you to the championship and most people probably drafted Ridley as low end RB2 or RB3 so they probably have enough RBs to piece together a solid RBBC until DMAC fixes his course.

 

[Badgers Fan]

http://www.csnne.com/football-new-england-patriots/patriots-talk/Belichick-not-in-forgiving-mood-with-Rid?blockID=785911&feedID=6272

Belichick (obviously) not happy. Might want to bench him vs the stingy Seahawks D if you have better options.