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Since we're discussing losses, I'll bring up a lesson I haven't learned. I put about 10k into CBLLF when it was about $9 per share, it's now under half of that. I'm not sure if I should just bail with my tail between my legs or what. I already lost my ### buying OPK, and feel like I'm repeating the same mistake. I know people have made a lot of coin from recommendations in this thread, but I always seem to pick the losers.

Cobalt has to have a floor close, right? The steep price decline over the last few months is crazy, and I have yet to read an explanation of where it's coming from.

 
Since we're discussing losses, I'll bring up a lesson I haven't learned. I put about 10k into CBLLF when it was about $9 per share, it's now under half of that. I'm not sure if I should just bail with my tail between my legs or what. I already lost my ### buying OPK, and feel like I'm repeating the same mistake. I know people have made a lot of coin from recommendations in this thread, but I always seem to pick the losers.

Cobalt has to have a floor close, right? The steep price decline over the last few months is crazy, and I have yet to read an explanation of where it's coming from.
I always planned to hold CBLLF long-term, but it is disconcerting to see the downturn it took after seeing it up significantly not too long ago.

I'm debating whether to dump and take the tax loss to offset gains elsewhere and buy more later, or wait it out to see if we get any kind of rebound.

 
Since we're discussing losses, I'll bring up a lesson I haven't learned. I put about 10k into CBLLF when it was about $9 per share, it's now under half of that. I'm not sure if I should just bail with my tail between my legs or what. I already lost my ### buying OPK, and feel like I'm repeating the same mistake. I know people have made a lot of coin from recommendations in this thread, but I always seem to pick the losers.

Cobalt has to have a floor close, right? The steep price decline over the last few months is crazy, and I have yet to read an explanation of where it's coming from.
Probably insider knowing new supply is coming online. 

 
I always planned to hold CBLLF long-term, but it is disconcerting to see the downturn it took after seeing it up significantly not too long ago.

I'm debating whether to dump and take the tax loss to offset gains elsewhere and buy more later, or wait it out to see if we get any kind of rebound.
I can't even take the tax loss as it's in my IRA. FML. The only other holding I have right now is GDX, which tanked 6% today, which it rarely does. 

Nothing like being down 15k this year. Would someone please go get me some cheese to go with my whine? 

 
Little pull back today ... maybe more.

I'd love to get more amzn at 1850 or so. Might take Armageddon to get it to drop that low again though.

Also interested in googl. The run it's been on lately peaked my interest  ... which is also what makes me hesitate. Jumped up a bunch in such a short time frame.

Not sure my target price on that one but if it drops substantially I'm in.

Sorry I'm rooting against amzn today Capella ... just know that I'm on your side once I empty my pockets again. (and she always bounces back. always)
Hah, I hear you. Like I said above, I’m probably a little ahead on everything because I’ve got about 90% in cash outside my current 401ks (which we’re putting in max and DCAing if the market is down). Our AMZN is still mainly vesting so not much I can do there anyway.

I wouldn’t mind a little downward as I plan my 5-10 year strategy.

 
CMG is so overbought it is insane. P/E over 80. 

Craziest part to me is the fact that same store foot traffic was DOWN last quarter, yet the stock has doubled, upgrades galore, and everyone loves it again all of the sudden (the stock, we all know the food is pretty mediocre). I mean, a P/E over 80 for tortillas and guacamole, are you serious? The only reason revenue was up (not by some insane stock doubling amount either) is bc of higher prices. 

Eyeing some dated puts on this one. Not yet, still some more irrational exuberance to be had, but I'll prob start scaling in the not too distant future.

 
:shrug:

This is from June.

As electric vehicles become less niche, the batteries powering them need to keep up. Last week, Elon Musk tweeted that batteries for the Tesla Model 3 use less than 3 percent of an expensive chemical called cobalt, and the next generation battery “will use none” of the material that some have called the “blood diamond of batteries.” How soon can that claim come true?

Cobalt is a key component of batteries. It’s also the most expensive material in the battery and mined under conditions that often violate human rights. As a result, scientists and startups are rushing to create a cobalt-free battery.

Musk’s “next-gen” claim is a vague phrase that doesn’t set out a definite timeline, so it’s impossible to know when he’ll deliver — but don’t expect it to be in the next couple of years.

The Verge spoke to Caspar Rawles, an analyst at Benchmark Mineral Intelligence who focuses on the cobalt market and cathodes, about why it’s so challenging to create a cobalt-free battery.

This interview has been lightly edited for clarity.

What exactly is cobalt and where is it mined? Is it extremely rare?

When we’re talking about mined cobalt, the raw material supply largely comes from the [Democratic Republic of] Congo. Last year, 66 percent of the world’s cobalt came from the Congo. Congo really has a big stranglehold.

It’s not necessarily as rare as a mineral, though it’s rarer than lithium or graphite or some others. It’s typically produced as a product, meaning it comes out as another material from nickel or copper mining. So, people are concerned because the supply of cobalt is ultimately at the mercy of the larger copper and nickel markets. If those markets are suffering from low prices, and so demand, it becomes harder to invest in cobalt production.

A lot of companies, including Tesla, are interested in making the zero-cobalt battery. When do you think that will happen?

Tesla uses a formulation called NCA (nickel, cobalt, aluminum) that is already very low-cobalt. Over the last six years, Tesla and Panasonic [which supplies batteries to Tesla] have reduced cobalt dependency by about 60 percent already. That’s already very low. We think it’s going to be difficult for them to go much lower because you run into engineering problems.

What are some of those problems?

Cobalt is the safe element in the cathode. As you reduce it, you reduce the life cycle of the cell. The current market standard for electric vehicles is an eight-year warranty to retain 80 percent of the original capacity of the battery. You need to be sure your battery can do that, otherwise, you’ll have to replace it under warranty, which is way more expensive than the theoretical savings you gain from less cobalt.

And there’s a safety issue as well. As you decrease the amount of cobalt, you increase the amount of nickel. The cells can overheat and it can no longer effectively cool itself, which can lead to combustion. That’s a relatively low risk but it’s not a risk that can be taken and you need special technology to avoid that. Plus, the low-cobalt formulations need to produce in special dry environments, and so there’s a cost to making them, too.

I think it’s very challenging from an engineering standpoint to solve these problems, so I think the current NCA technology is going to be the dominant technology for the next 10 years.

Some people pointed out that Panasonic announced that it was going to develop a cobalt-free battery and then ordered three times as much cobalt. Can you put that in context for me?

The cobalt-free battery is something Panasonic is working on, but I don’t think it’s around the corner. Panasonic is probably ordering more cobalt simply because they need to make more batteries. Tesla is ramping up production and they have a deal with Toyota.

What do you see as the future of the cobalt market? Is it going to become more and more expensive?

That’s the multibillion-dollar question. Electric vehicles are creating a true demand for cobalt now and that’s going to be around for a long time. Demand for cobalt used to be mostly for superalloys used in jet engines and hardware. Now, over 50 percent of demand is coming from the battery sector, which is going to completely change the industry.

At the same time, there are a number of new projects to mine cobalt in DRC. I think we’ll have stable prices until about 2022, when demand is going to exceed what new supplies can come, and then prices are likely to increase.

What do you think is the future of the battery? What could “next-gen” be?

There are things like advanced lithium-ion batteries, which use little cobalt and could be here in a couple of years. But we’re really getting toward the physiochemical limit of what those materials can do. To me, the next generation is something like solid-state batteries with the solid anode, but they’re a long way off. Other things, like sodium-ion batteries, are still on the lab scale and you need to get from lab to research to pilot testing, to cathode testing to battery testing. We’re looking at least 10 more years for that.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/21/17488626/elon-musk-cobalt-electric-vehicle-battery-science

 
Hah, I hear you. Like I said above, I’m probably a little ahead on everything because I’ve got about 90% in cash outside my current 401ks (which we’re putting in max and DCAing if the market is down). Our AMZN is still mainly vesting so not much I can do there anyway.

I wouldn’t mind a little downward as I plan my 5-10 year strategy.
I pulled the trigger on some googl. 

15 shares at 1228. Dip my toes in that water so to speak.

I pick up more if it tumbles down another 20 or so.

 
I keep my E-Fund in a few different forms. One is a Treasury Direct Account. I've been buying a $100 30 Year Bond each month for the past couple years; more as a way to piss off my wife after I'm dead than for any wise financial planning. The bulk of the cash I keep reinvesting in 26-week bills (figuring that would cover job loss with weekly cash incoming).

The 30-Year just processed today and the 26-Week was priced on Monday. 30-Year bond is paying 3% (with a $1.75 discount) and the 26-Week bill is paying 2.235%. 3 and 5 year Notes are paying the same ($0.26 discount difference on the 5) and the 7 and 10 year notes are paying the same ($0.38 cent discount on the 10). Crazy that it's less than a 1% difference to keep your cash locked up for half a year or for 30.
Inverted yield curve - very key indicator for the next recession.   

 
I pulled the trigger on some googl. 

15 shares at 1228. Dip my toes in that water so to speak.

I pick up more if it tumbles down another 20 or so.
$20 isn't a tumble for a $1200 stock. You need a plan. 

Am I holding xyz, ideal position size, it drops xyz percent I'll add xyz - so on and so forth. 

 
Also worth noting, the extra $16B in tariffs take effect next week (US/China) - the formal review for the next $200B is in about 3 weeks, those will prob go into effect by November, no way I see either side backing down right now. China stock market is getting hammered, Trump isn't conceding a thing. 

That'll give us that long feared inflation boost early next year. 

 
$20 isn't a tumble for a $1200 stock. You need a plan. 

Am I holding xyz, ideal position size, it drops xyz percent I'll add xyz - so on and so forth. 
Bossmans GOOGL plan:

I'm holding: $boatloadocash$

ideal position size: lots and lots would be ideal

plan: if It drops 2%, I'm down for 15 shares

drops another 2%, another 15 shares

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I'd like to be at 80 shares of GOOGL

and 100 shares of AMZN

Not in the budget right now ... certainly not at these prices.

Lets see what after hours and tomorrow brings. 

 
A couple things are clear as of today - wow RE is a bond analog at the moment; a leveraged analog, at that.  RE actually performs decently well in an inflationary environment, so this is a bit puzzling, but there is no doubt that this is what the market is doing with it.  And energy is on tenuous ground - the strong dollar, trade issues, and typical noise in the news have it swinging all over the place.

That said CVX might be a good swing trade right now.  It's just hit the bottom of its channel and i expect it will tilt back up after this little tantrum is done.  

 
BREAKING: @elonmusk’s @boringcompany will build a 3.6 mile tunnel from East Hollywood to Dodger Stadium that can carry 1,500 fans to the game in four minutes versus the more than an hour those fans spend traveling by car to the game today. https://t.co/v9joUxbsrE

Hahaha this is a never ending story. He appears to be banned from talking Telsa on Twitter so now is pumping boring. Going to be a sad day when he gets put in jail. Also the same day to short Twitter.

 
BREAKING: @elonmusk’s @boringcompany will build a 3.6 mile tunnel from East Hollywood to Dodger Stadium that can carry 1,500 fans to the game in four minutes versus the more than an hour those fans spend traveling by car to the game today. https://t.co/v9joUxbsrE

Hahaha this is a never ending story. He appears to be banned from talking Telsa on Twitter so now is pumping boring. Going to be a sad day when he gets put in jail. Also the same day to short Twitter.
ad coelum is dead as a legal principle, but is ad infernus also done? Especially for a private company? I can't imagine a property owner being thrilled that a tunnel is going to be constructed underneath there domicile.

 
I pulled the trigger on some googl. 

15 shares at 1228. Dip my toes in that water so to speak.

I pick up more if it tumbles down another 20 or so.
Waking up to 1244 (+$16 a share) .... puts me up $240 this morning.

Not bad for 1 day. .... now here's the part where I say "should have bought more".

 
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Tell me about these "weed" stocks. Medicinal and the likes.

any recommendations?
I'm interested. also. Anyone know why GWPH has been weak lately? Also may buy STZ on this drop for some backdoor participation. Have been watching it for awhile, though sounds like the beer market is softening.

 
I'm interested. also. Anyone know why GWPH has been weak lately? Also may buy STZ on this drop for some backdoor participation. Have been watching it for awhile, though sounds like the beer market is softening.
CGC spiked pretty hard yesterday. Would love to get in but not confident it will climb like that again now.

 
I just looked through Constellation's brands.  That is one craptacular collection of booze. 
I was in when they were trying to buy Modelo,etc, and it declined a lot because there were antitrust issues. I just played it for that recovery- issues resolved faster than market expectations causing a major run up- but would have been a good move to just hold. 
Before the big investment in CGC yesterday, which gives them about 38% ownership, they'd made a smaller previous investment ($200 million/9.9%) in October. So, this seems like they've had time to do more due diligence and feel the prospects are good. They have a well-respected CEO in Rob Sands and it appears that he's looking ahead to potential competition and doing something about it. Small dividend, too (approaching 1.5% now)

 
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Yeah, but I'd hope if I were investing in a beverage company, they'd have beverages I'd actually want to consume. 

And this is coming from someone who has poured whiskey/coke over a frozen bagel in a baggie at 2am because my buddy ran out of ice. 

 
Noted. Fortunately, I'm not that big on ice.

Meantime, new Buy rating for GWPH:
 

BUZZ-GW Pharmaceuticals plc: Stifel starts with "buy"

8:02 AM ET, 08/15/2018 - Reuters

** Brokerage Stifel begins coverage of cannabinoid drug developer with "buy" rating, PT $181

** Stifel says rating based on GW's cannabinoid pain relief drug Epidiolex's strong launch in Dravet syndrome space

** U.S. FDA in June approved drug for treatment of seizures associated with Lennox-Gastaut syndrome and Dravet syndrome [http://bit.ly/2yMLJRM ]

** Viable intellectual property extension strategy along with any other pipeline wins both represent potential upside drivers for stock - brokerage

 
Yeah, but I'd hope if I were investing in a beverage company, they'd have beverages I'd actually want to consume. 

And this is coming from someone who has poured whiskey/coke over a frozen bagel in a baggie at 2am because my buddy ran out of ice. 
You might consider Diageo. Solid company, good stock, better beverages

 
CGC spiked pretty hard yesterday. Would love to get in but not confident it will climb like that again now.
FWIW

Canopy plans to use proceeds to grow in ~30 countries likely to approve medical marijuana and targets C$1 bln in overseas acquisitions over next 6-12 months

** Canaccord Genuity believes Canopy is primed to execute on a global first mover advantage, with C$5 bln to hit its balance sheet in Oct and ~12x more cash than its Canadian rivals

** Says Canopy can make a "land grab" for blue-chip intl' assets as it has the currency in stock and almost as much cash as has been raised in the entire Canadian weed industry to date

** Canaccord raises rating to "speculative buy" from "hold" and raises PT to C$50.00 from C$34.00

** PI Financial also bullish on WEED's early-mover advantage for new markets; keeps "buy" and raises PT to C$60 from C$45

** The deal spurred a rally in weed stocks on Weds. ; Short-seller Citron predicts medical marijuana Co Tilray is next in line for a white knight (Reporting by Savio D'Souza)

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Of the STZ Mexican beer brands....Pacifico>Modelo>urine>Corona. No idea how people drink that excuse of a beer called Corona, and it's everywhere. 

 
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Waking up to 1244 (+$16 a share) .... puts me up $240 this morning.

Not bad for 1 day. .... now here's the part where I say "should have bought more".
Phew.

Still sort of glad to mainly be on the sidelines. I think there’s a bit more downside and I need to get my #### together for long term.

Don’t like seeing any downside to AMZN but I’m stuck waiting anyway so probably not going to get back going too much until October earnings.

 
TSLA down near 300 right now.  It's been trading about 260 - 380 the past year or so where when it dips near 280-300 you buy and it generally bounces back up 10-20% pretty quick.  Pus you have that magic 360 number for March 2019 that Musk will do all he can to get about to avoid repaying about $1B and of course the mythical 420 price he's going private....not that I'm advising to do so, but it makes for an interesting gamble.

 
Phew.

Still sort of glad to mainly be on the sidelines. I think there’s a bit more downside and I need to get my #### together for long term.

Don’t like seeing any downside to AMZN but I’m stuck waiting anyway so probably not going to get back going too much until October earnings.
I had a large order in for amzn 2 days ago @ 1850 .. moved it up to $1865 ... then $1878 ... and it never came low enough to trigger.

Looks like I'll get it for cheaper now. Sometimes it's good to miss on an order. Lets see if I can get it at $1835 now.

googl is also calling me to pick up more today. Will grab more of one or the other ... if not both.

 
I had a large order in for amzn 2 days ago @ 1850 .. moved it up to $1865 ... then $1878 ... and it never came low enough to trigger.

Looks like I'll get it for cheaper now. Sometimes it's good to miss on an order. Lets see if I can get it at $1835 now.

googl is also calling me to pick up more today. Will grab more of one or the other ... if not both.
Good luck. 

 
TSLA down near 300 right now.  It's been trading about 260 - 380 the past year or so where when it dips near 280-300 you buy and it generally bounces back up 10-20% pretty quick.  Pus you have that magic 360 number for March 2019 that Musk will do all he can to get about to avoid repaying about $1B and of course the mythical 420 price he's going private....not that I'm advising to do so, but it makes for an interesting gamble.
I really have no faith in tsla ... and the CEO is crazy as a loon ... please talk me out of picking up 20 shares today since this seems like such a good deal.

 
I really have no faith in tsla ... and the CEO is crazy as a loon ... please talk me out of picking up 20 shares today since this seems like such a good deal.
I’m not a good short term guy, but a stock like this is just violent swings and you can profit if you play it knowing it will bounce around. The tough part is one tweet can send it the wrong way. 

 

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