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Arid Filch
Footballguy
Anyone have thoughts on Yandex?
It's been a rough year and Putin's comments this past week which seem benign to me, appear to have driven the stock down another 20%. Friday's action was interesting but I don't know what to conclude. So what do you guys think, is this a good entry point or is it heading lower?
Also, does anyone have an opinion on the payday loan, pawnbroker, prepaid card sector?
I am trying to decide between EZCorp and GreenDot. What can you guys tell me?
It's been a rough year and Putin's comments this past week which seem benign to me, appear to have driven the stock down another 20%. Friday's action was interesting but I don't know what to conclude. So what do you guys think, is this a good entry point or is it heading lower?
Also, does anyone have an opinion on the payday loan, pawnbroker, prepaid card sector?
I am trying to decide between EZCorp and GreenDot. What can you guys tell me?
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Sold all 1000 at $12.59 this morning.
I still REALLY like this company and stock though but needed to take the profit while I could. It ran back up relatively fast. I'm hoping I can buy back in the $11's.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
I have a lot dry right now. Considering buying into GOOGL at this point, though. Thoughts from the technical crowd? Siff?
siffoin
Footballguy
Well short term I can make a case that $GOOGL makes a run towards $530+. But I think that there is a lot of downward pressure being exerted, and that you''ll be able to buy it at a discount to $525 in the coming weeks/months.
The Oct 2013 Gap makes an ideal target, but I have trouble believing it goes there.
I'd like to put some shares in my kids fund...so I have my eye on it and I like the company LT. Just not here. Tough to tell the future....
For a higher risk plan: I'd say begin to nibble at levels of support and hope they hold...so first is at $495. I'd do 20% of total there. Then another add at $470 -30%; Then $440 - 30%...Then $425 - 20%. If any of those support levels hold and the trend were to turn I'd re-appraise where the buys would be. The risk here is you get stuck holding $GOOGL at an average price much higher due to a prolonged bearish trend.
The safer play is to wait for the trend to turn - like what happened with $AAPL back From Sept 2012-July 2013...and buy there. You won't catch an exact bottom but you won't have the stressor of holding a loser either.
sbonomo
Footballguy
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Thanks, GB. 'Preciate it.siffoin said:
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Doubled down on DDD this morning.
Thanks for the GOOG information Sif. Looking to add more there too.
GM, how come U3O8 miners are getting crushed again?
Thanks for the GOOG information Sif. Looking to add more there too.
GM, how come U3O8 miners are getting crushed again?
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Bought 200 ounces more yesterday at $19.70 an ounce so I have 700 ounces now. I could have gotten a little better deal but I already wrote the check out and I'm fairly certain my cousin just figured f-it.Bought another 100 ounces today so 500 now.I bought another 100 ounces of silver today bringing my hoard up to 400.
The shop was insanely packed with people buying silver and gold. It sounded more like a bar on a Sunday afternoon during the football season than a jewelry store. Not sure I'm too happy about the number of buyers but I'll be buying more if it continues to drop.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
A couple months ago, icon, maybe, started a thread about investing $1,000. I was going to do the same on a "fun" basis. Well, I didn't do that however I bought my first silver. I bought a few coins to start that run and bought a few older silver dollars... thinking of trying to get one from each year since 1986 to have a full run. Would be neat to have.Bought 200 ounces more yesterday at $19.70 an ounce so I have 700 ounces now. I could have gotten a little better deal but I already wrote the check out and I'm fairly certain my cousin just figured f-it.Bought another 100 ounces today so 500 now.I bought another 100 ounces of silver today bringing my hoard up to 400.
The shop was insanely packed with people buying silver and gold. It sounded more like a bar on a Sunday afternoon during the football season than a jewelry store. Not sure I'm too happy about the number of buyers but I'll be buying more if it continues to drop.
However, I bought 10oz bars too. I initially bought 40oz and when I bought some coins, I bought 30oz more. Very tempting to buy more with these lowering prices but not sure how much to buy. Maybe another 30oz to get to an even 100oz.
I am buying mine from JM Bullion online. Better prices overall than the coin shops. Takes about ~2-3 weeks to get it but have had two successful purchases so far. Not sure why you spent >$24 on that date. Do you buy from online? Ever try it?
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
That was probably about spot at the time. I could have gotten it yesterday for. 35-.40 per ounce less but I was in a hurry. My cousin owns the place and takes care of me.A couple months ago, icon, maybe, started a thread about investing $1,000. I was going to do the same on a "fun" basis. Well, I didn't do that however I bought my first silver. I bought a few coins to start that run and bought a few older silver dollars... thinking of trying to get one from each year since 1986 to have a full run. Would be neat to have.However, I bought 10oz bars too. I initially bought 40oz and when I bought some coins, I bought 30oz more. Very tempting to buy more with these lowering prices but not sure how much to buy. Maybe another 30oz to get to an even 100oz.Bought 200 ounces more yesterday at $19.70 an ounce so I have 700 ounces now. I could have gotten a little better deal but I already wrote the check out and I'm fairly certain my cousin just figured f-it.Bought another 100 ounces today so 500 now.I bought another 100 ounces of silver today bringing my hoard up to 400.
I am buying mine from JM Bullion online. Better prices overall than the coin shops. Takes about ~2-3 weeks to get it but have had two successful purchases so far. Not sure why you spent >$24 on that date. Do you buy from online? Ever try it?
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Do you buy 100oz bars? Or, what in particular?St. Louis Bob said:That was probably about spot at the time. I could have gotten it yesterday for. 35-.40 per ounce less but I was in a hurry. My cousin owns the place and takes care of me.Mario Kart said:A couple months ago, icon, maybe, started a thread about investing $1,000. I was going to do the same on a "fun" basis. Well, I didn't do that however I bought my first silver. I bought a few coins to start that run and bought a few older silver dollars... thinking of trying to get one from each year since 1986 to have a full run. Would be neat to have.However, I bought 10oz bars too. I initially bought 40oz and when I bought some coins, I bought 30oz more. Very tempting to buy more with these lowering prices but not sure how much to buy. Maybe another 30oz to get to an even 100oz.St. Louis Bob said:Bought 200 ounces more yesterday at $19.70 an ounce so I have 700 ounces now. I could have gotten a little better deal but I already wrote the check out and I'm fairly certain my cousin just figured f-it.Bought another 100 ounces today so 500 now.I bought another 100 ounces of silver today bringing my hoard up to 400.
I am buying mine from JM Bullion online. Better prices overall than the coin shops. Takes about ~2-3 weeks to get it but have had two successful purchases so far. Not sure why you spent >$24 on that date. Do you buy from online? Ever try it?
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Buy HEMP... its down to .06 and Florida approved medical Mary J.
BUY BUY BUY... and sell when it gets to .07.
BUY BUY BUY... and sell when it gets to .07.
culdeus
Footballguy
My grandfather bought literally bags and bags of war nickels and gave them to his grandkids before he died (IRS>hi). I've never really looked into how to liquidate these things. I've always considered it my vegas/booze/hooker/emergency fund.
I've got probably 200 pounds of them. srs
I've got probably 200 pounds of them. srs
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Year Mintage Numismatic Value Range
1942 P 57,873,000 $1.25 - $95.00
1942 S 32,900,000 $1.25 - $150.00
1943 P 271,165,000 $1.10 - $120.00
1943 D 15,294,000 $1.25 - $1100.00
1943 S 104,060,000 $1.25 - $200.00
1943/2 P unknown $30.00 - $1265.00
1944 P 119,150,000 $1.25 - $500.00
1944 D 32,309,000 $1.25 - $300.00
1944 S 21,640,000 $1.25 - $900.00
1945 P 119,408,100 $1.00 - $300.00
1945 D 37,158,000 $1.25 - $500.00
1945 S 58,939,000 $1.25 - $400.00
I'd go through them individually... As big of a ##### as it is, at 200 lbs you've got in the neighborhood of 18,000 of these things. I bet at least 1% of them grade on the higher scale and above is a chart of what they go for depending on condition.
1942 P 57,873,000 $1.25 - $95.00
1942 S 32,900,000 $1.25 - $150.00
1943 P 271,165,000 $1.10 - $120.00
1943 D 15,294,000 $1.25 - $1100.00
1943 S 104,060,000 $1.25 - $200.00
1943/2 P unknown $30.00 - $1265.00
1944 P 119,150,000 $1.25 - $500.00
1944 D 32,309,000 $1.25 - $300.00
1944 S 21,640,000 $1.25 - $900.00
1945 P 119,408,100 $1.00 - $300.00
1945 D 37,158,000 $1.25 - $500.00
1945 S 58,939,000 $1.25 - $400.00
I'd go through them individually... As big of a ##### as it is, at 200 lbs you've got in the neighborhood of 18,000 of these things. I bet at least 1% of them grade on the higher scale and above is a chart of what they go for depending on condition.
culdeus
Footballguy
Yeah, it's on my list of things to do one afternoon watching NFL. AFAIK nobody has ever cherry picked these bags.
My grandfather was a great man and was into some odd stuff. He owned a dr. pepper bottling company and a coke bottling company in the 30s-40s-50s. He would empty the machines of the war nickels seeing their value and saved them. He built a below ground vault to store them in. When it came time to give them away it took a engine block hydraulic lift to get the lot of them out of the vault he built.
Allegedly
My grandfather was a great man and was into some odd stuff. He owned a dr. pepper bottling company and a coke bottling company in the 30s-40s-50s. He would empty the machines of the war nickels seeing their value and saved them. He built a below ground vault to store them in. When it came time to give them away it took a engine block hydraulic lift to get the lot of them out of the vault he built.
Allegedly
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
I bought 100 ounce bars this time. Most others are 10 oz bars. Also have 100 or so 1 ounce rounds I bought years ago.
NIU Kicker
Footballguy
From a numismatic standpoint you see the list above. Just know that for some of the big $$ they need to be in mint condition and if most if them came out of coke machines it's unlikely they are in that sort if condition.
From a silver value perspective these war nickles are a bit tricky. Yes they do have a lot of silver in them. The problem is the 9% magnesium they added to the alloy. Now I'm not a smelter but I'm told in order to melt down the war nickes to get at the pure silver they need to be heated up to a super hot level that most smelters don't operate at due to the magnesium content. This diminishes the overall value of the nickles from a pure silver content perspective.
They are still cool to own..... And I'd supposedly buy some if I had the chance
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Would love to see a pic of the nickles.
NIU Kicker
Footballguy
They are a neat coin. You can feel the differance to the zinc nickle with little problem but the war nickel is easily identified by a rather large mint mark.
culdeus
Footballguy
They are in a secure location. I don't have anywhere to store them really at my place and I worry about the weight damaging my flooring.
I'm working on getting a local lockup here where I can keep my guns and crap like that.
One thing that he said later in life was people kept putting these in machines well into the 70s. He stopped looking for them only in the carter administration.
The Ref
Footballguy
Fairly accurate. It wasn't until the 70's that the silver price was high enough that they were materially worth more then another nickle. This is when most of the pre 64 coins really started to disappear.
My wife and I have thought about starting to invest in silver/gold to diversify a bit. Plus it's kind of cool to think about having bars of the stuff in our safe.A couple months ago, icon, maybe, started a thread about investing $1,000. I was going to do the same on a "fun" basis. Well, I didn't do that however I bought my first silver. I bought a few coins to start that run and bought a few older silver dollars... thinking of trying to get one from each year since 1986 to have a full run. Would be neat to have.Bought 200 ounces more yesterday at $19.70 an ounce so I have 700 ounces now. I could have gotten a little better deal but I already wrote the check out and I'm fairly certain my cousin just figured f-it.Bought another 100 ounces today so 500 now.I bought another 100 ounces of silver today bringing my hoard up to 400.
The shop was insanely packed with people buying silver and gold. It sounded more like a bar on a Sunday afternoon during the football season than a jewelry store. Not sure I'm too happy about the number of buyers but I'll be buying more if it continues to drop.
However, I bought 10oz bars too. I initially bought 40oz and when I bought some coins, I bought 30oz more. Very tempting to buy more with these lowering prices but not sure how much to buy. Maybe another 30oz to get to an even 100oz.
I am buying mine from JM Bullion online. Better prices overall than the coin shops. Takes about ~2-3 weeks to get it but have had two successful purchases so far. Not sure why you spent >$24 on that date. Do you buy from online? Ever try it?
I have no idea where to start. I checked out JM Bullion and the 1 oz. bars were going between $21-$22. Spot price is somewhere around $19.50. Is 10% a reasonable premium to pay? Like I said, no clue where to start.
Any advice?
Mario Kart
Footballguy
The "more" you buy, the "more" off spot you pay. If you're a true beginner, you're going to be surprised at how small 1oz bar is. It's like 1" by 1" only. The 10oz bars I have are about the size of a credit card. Haven't looked into the 50oz or 100oz bars to to financial output. But, you buy a 100oz bar and you pay <$1.00 over spot. That's not bad. The 10oz bars, currently, you're paying $20.35 which is .90 over spot. That is not bad. Thursday they were selling for $198... should have bought some.My wife and I have thought about starting to invest in silver/gold to diversify a bit. Plus it's kind of cool to think about having bars of the stuff in our safe.A couple months ago, icon, maybe, started a thread about investing $1,000. I was going to do the same on a "fun" basis. Well, I didn't do that however I bought my first silver. I bought a few coins to start that run and bought a few older silver dollars... thinking of trying to get one from each year since 1986 to have a full run. Would be neat to have.Bought 200 ounces more yesterday at $19.70 an ounce so I have 700 ounces now. I could have gotten a little better deal but I already wrote the check out and I'm fairly certain my cousin just figured f-it.Bought another 100 ounces today so 500 now.I bought another 100 ounces of silver today bringing my hoard up to 400.
The shop was insanely packed with people buying silver and gold. It sounded more like a bar on a Sunday afternoon during the football season than a jewelry store. Not sure I'm too happy about the number of buyers but I'll be buying more if it continues to drop.
However, I bought 10oz bars too. I initially bought 40oz and when I bought some coins, I bought 30oz more. Very tempting to buy more with these lowering prices but not sure how much to buy. Maybe another 30oz to get to an even 100oz.
I am buying mine from JM Bullion online. Better prices overall than the coin shops. Takes about ~2-3 weeks to get it but have had two successful purchases so far. Not sure why you spent >$24 on that date. Do you buy from online? Ever try it?
I have no idea where to start. I checked out JM Bullion and the 1 oz. bars were going between $21-$22. Spot price is somewhere around $19.50. Is 10% a reasonable premium to pay? Like I said, no clue where to start.
Any advice?
I'd say stay away from the 1oz bars. 5oz is okay especially for gifting them. I'm buying some coins but those are for novelty type stuff. The 10oz bars is what I'm going with for now. If I have some kind of windfall, I would go 100oz. My goal is to get one 10oz gold bar. $$$$
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Yeah my 100oz bars were $1970 each. I think the 10oz bars were $20.80 each or something.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
The 100oz bars are what size? How big are they?
The 10oz are about a credit card which to someone new to this is kind of a surprise. I wasn't expecting it to be a book or anything but is small considering.
700oz of silver equals about $14,000 in silver. What is your outlook for silver? When would you sell? Stuff like that.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Long term hold for me. The vast majority of my investments are equities so this is somewhat of a hedge. However silver, unlike gold, is highly conductive and is used to make all of the smartphones and crap we all love. As the world economy continues to improve I expect to see a sizeable increase in the demand for silver.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Part of the reason I am trying to get into it. I don't have the capital you have unless I convert more of my cash into silver. Might look to do that more. I have "converted" about 5% of my cash into it so far. I could do up to about 35% or so but that might be a bit much depending on some things. I might do another ~$700 and play a waiting game. Thursday looked real nice to buy though.Long term hold for me. The vast majority of my investments are equities so this is somewhat of a hedge. However silver, unlike gold, is highly conductive and is used to make all of the smartphones and crap we all love. As the world economy continues to improve I expect to see a sizeable increase in the demand for silver.
The "more" you buy, the "more" off spot you pay. If you're a true beginner, you're going to be surprised at how small 1oz bar is. It's like 1" by 1" only. The 10oz bars I have are about the size of a credit card. Haven't looked into the 50oz or 100oz bars to to financial output. But, you buy a 100oz bar and you pay <$1.00 over spot. That's not bad. The 10oz bars, currently, you're paying $20.35 which is .90 over spot. That is not bad. Thursday they were selling for $198... should have bought some.
I'd say stay away from the 1oz bars. 5oz is okay especially for gifting them. I'm buying some coins but those are for novelty type stuff. The 10oz bars is what I'm going with for now. If I have some kind of windfall, I would go 100oz. My goal is to get one 10oz gold bar. $$$$
I appreciate it, thanks. I like your idea of getting a 10oz gold bar!
I'd say stay away from the 1oz bars. 5oz is okay especially for gifting them. I'm buying some coins but those are for novelty type stuff. The 10oz bars is what I'm going with for now. If I have some kind of windfall, I would go 100oz. My goal is to get one 10oz gold bar. $$$$
I appreciate it, thanks. I like your idea of getting a 10oz gold bar!
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
FWIW, it's my cousin's opinion that if you are going to invest gold, you should buy coins. The intrinsic value, generally, increases in value quicker and holds value when the gold spot goes down. I have 3-4 myself but don't really know a whole lot about coins. He's 60 and has been doing it his whole life having taken over his dad's business. I gave him 5 grand about six years ago I guess and give him free reign what to buy and sell. Last time I checked it was worth over 13k.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
The bar is more of a goal than anything. If I can buy it next year... sweet... but I'm a few years away most likely. It'd be something cool to have.
Markets are open.
If you buy any ZenMaster from JM... I should contact them and get a finders fee of some kind. Maybe a 10oz bar for free or something from them. Least they could do.
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Mario Kart
Footballguy
It is my unofficial goal to get American Silver Eagles from 1986 to the current year. I think I will buy these ungraded and get some plastic to put them in myself or some kind of holder. Maybe even an empty tube. I did buy two graded Eagles, one each from my nephew and nieces birth year. Might be special to give to them later on.
Part of my family comes from Austria so I just bought a set of the Austrian silver coins. Might be a gift for my mom later this year or just something I will keep buying and hold onto. Had to buy them graded since I could get each of them from one site. Otherwise, I would have had to buy from two sites to "complete" it.
Wish I could find the silver eagles for as near spot price as possible but many sites only sell them graded. Argh!
Part of my family comes from Austria so I just bought a set of the Austrian silver coins. Might be a gift for my mom later this year or just something I will keep buying and hold onto. Had to buy them graded since I could get each of them from one site. Otherwise, I would have had to buy from two sites to "complete" it.
Wish I could find the silver eagles for as near spot price as possible but many sites only sell them graded. Argh!
culdeus
Footballguy
Silver is hardly in use at all in semiconductors or PCB manufacture. Gold and Copper are the most prevalent materials there.Long term hold for me. The vast majority of my investments are equities so this is somewhat of a hedge. However silver, unlike gold, is highly conductive and is used to make all of the smartphones and crap we all love. As the world economy continues to improve I expect to see a sizeable increase in the demand for silver.
Some companies are investigating using silver for die connectors, but that's a long way off.
Only thing I can think of off hand that uses silver in any real context is conductive die attach and you are talking literally atoms of the stuff.
culdeus
Footballguy
Mario Kart
Footballguy
https://comparesilverprices.com/
And, http://www.gainesvillecoins.com/products/160787/10-oz-silver-bar-.999-pure-silver.aspx seems to have a good price on the 10oz. I'm going to keep my eye on this and should have been before. So, whether the bars are "generic" or not, makes little difference in the research I have done. The "premiums" you often don't get back. I don't see why coin shops would so generic might just be the best way to go. Only if making a large purchase do you get the cheaper price. Meh!!
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St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Well ####. I swear I read something a couple of years ago how it was widely used in electronics.Silver is hardly in use at all in semiconductors or PCB manufacture. Gold and Copper are the most prevalent materials there.Long term hold for me. The vast majority of my investments are equities so this is somewhat of a hedge. However silver, unlike gold, is highly conductive and is used to make all of the smartphones and crap we all love. As the world economy continues to improve I expect to see a sizeable increase in the demand for silver.
Some companies are investigating using silver for die connectors, but that's a long way off.
Only thing I can think of off hand that uses silver in any real context is conductive die attach and you are talking literally atoms of the stuff.
Ignoramus
Footballguy
Gosh, Arid.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Do you think they start every earnings report with, "First of all, how are you?"Ignoramus said:
identikit
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Look at the beating Rocket Fuel is taking... FUEL
Right now they are valued at 1.75x revenue with this plunge. 95% YoY growth, good product, & increased margins. They are starting to look very attractive trading at these levels.
Right now they are valued at 1.75x revenue with this plunge. 95% YoY growth, good product, & increased margins. They are starting to look very attractive trading at these levels.
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Arid Filch
Footballguy
I always look at past earnings so I'm not very good at assessing companies like FUEL and FEYE.
Mystery Achiever, you called FEYE well at New Year's. After seeing the rise and fall, what do you think? Is this a good opportunity to get in low? And do you still prefer FEYE over FUEL?
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Filch- I still really like FEYE, but I just don't know where the bottom is at this point. I think there is a lot of worry over more lock up shares being sold.
Acme CEO is the one who has really looked closely at, and owns, both FEYE and FUEL. If you search the stock contest thread you will find his posts, though they were made at a "happier time" for both stocks.
Acme CEO is the one who has really looked closely at, and owns, both FEYE and FUEL. If you search the stock contest thread you will find his posts, though they were made at a "happier time" for both stocks.
Arid Filch
Footballguy
Yes, calling the bottom correctly could make us rich.The fact that both FUEL and FEYE were able to more than double after their IPO makes me think they will do it again when public sentiment turns in their favor. However, I am looking at the analyst estimates and they are expected to continue losing money through 2015. Any idea when they expect to turn profitability? And is there any fear that competitors will carve into their market share?
From what I have read, I believe they provide security for websites?
Thanks for the heads-up on Acme CEO's posts. I will read them later.
siffoin
Footballguy
Technically speaking- $FEYE and $FUEL will take some time before the bear trend will resolve. Best case is weeks- dont be surprised if it is months. That does't mean it can't go up over a period of days 10% or so. What it means if that there is significant downside pressure that is not even close to being resolved.
This is coming from someone who has watched $FEYE very closely too. I thought $60's would have good support and for sure in the $40's. I be extremely cautious - and any buys right now expect to experience pain from the get-go.
Edit: Just because some stock is priced lower than it was yesterday, or a week ago or a month ago...doesn't necessarily mean it is cheap.
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Arid Filch
Footballguy
Thanks for the input, siff. I plan on tracking the price movements of FEYE plus the market as a whole for a few weeks before deciding to jump in. I have been stuck too many times before from jumping in too early on a downward move.
Do you think the movement will be similar to JCP, which has been in a terrible bear trend with lots of 20% increases for the last year or so? In regards to JCP, I regret not getting in between $5-$6. My gut tells me that if earnings beat on the 15th, then the stock is going to speed back towards $15. Whereas if earnings fall short, the bear trend will probably continue for at least another year. What do you think?
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
FEYE is the company that identified both the Target breach and Internet Explorer vulnerability.
The next lock up expiration is May 22.
