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Would be great to see Lam hold gains tomorrow. Beat, Beat, good guidance.

If they're undone by acknowledging, "... near-term tariff-related uncertainty," I think that's going to spell trouble for a lot of ERs. Didn't have a chance to listen, though. Could be more buried in there I didn't see.
 
So maybe rolling back tariffs on auto companies now it looks like.

Maybe the plan to save face here is to roll back tariffs on each industry one by one until eventually there are none left.
Like a lot of other news recently, this is going to cause an increase on auto stocks when people don't really understand what exactly is happening. There's still going to be 25% tariffs on imported autos and 25% imported auto parts. So is this better than before? Yes. Is it ultimately that helpful to the auto industry? I think 25% is enough to stifle a large part of that market.

To me, this seems like the "pause." Market will move on the headline, and then people will see that "oh, a 10% blanket tariff worldwide is still bad." I think that kind of happened today also regarding relaxing hostilities with China.
tsla still even steven. hopefully a nothing burger. I need it to go down from 250
 
April 23 (Reuters) - Chip-making equipment supplier Lam Research (LRCX.O), opens new tab beat Wall Street expectations for third-quarter revenue on Wednesday, fueled by robust demand for advanced AI chips, sending the company's shares up 4.5% in extended trading.
The increased appetite for high-performance AI chips and processors — essential for powering AI workloads — is prompting major chip manufacturers like Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (2330.TW), opens new tab, one of Lam's biggest customers, to ramp up orders. This surge is benefiting equipment suppliers such as Lam as well.

Good sign of things to come. I only own 30 shares, probably should look to increase that.
 
Just saw an interesting chart in a video. Retail was unloading stocks in mass in December through mid Feb. The outflow was above the inflow from until after the market bottom in April.
 
We've read the articles on zh that asset inflation is a thing. It's bothered me that retail and the world basically consolidated their money into 6-7 stocks. 401k etfs went the same way.

Maybe retail just drove the volatility because they just plow into mag7 and tarrifs were the gasoline to that fire. When mag unwound alot of broad market stuff went with it as retail sold mostly etf holdings in retirement accts.
 
Here is a perfect example of asset allocation.

My high yield income model which is 55% equity 31% Fixed Income 11.5% Alts and 3% cash

Gross return YTD 4.15% with a portfolio yield of 6.20%

Stocks held in this portfolio;

AAPL
AEP
AMZN
DE
DOW
EXC
GLPI
GOOGL
KO
META
MO
NVDA
O
PEP
PG
PM
T
VZ

ETF’s

BXMX
GCV
JEPI
PFXF
PGX


The rest is institutional share class bond mutual funds.

This is my sleep at night income in retirement portfolio for non tax sensitive people. Tax sensitive will have munis in place of corporates.

Asset allocation is alive and well in this market we are currently in. Even holding some Mag 6 stocks to boot.

Sector weightings

20% consumer defensive
3% healthcare
17.5% Utilities
22% Communication Services
4% Energy
6 % Industrials
8% Technology
2.4% Basic Materials
3.5% Consumer Cyclical
4.5% Financial Services
10% Real Estate

Bond quality

46% invesment grade short 5-9 years
13% investment grade Intermediate (7-10 years)
33% high yield short
7% high yield long (over 10 years)

No ultra short except the 3% cash

Been running this model for 20 plus years and yes some stocks and funds have changed over two decades but the strategy and investment policy and risk management has never waivered.

High current income with a small bit of growth and short to medium duration on all fixed income and preservation of capital In high stress event driven downturns.

The standard deviation on this high income portfolio over 5 years is 10.5 vs 17 on the S&P 500

Over 10 years 10 vs 15.38 on the S&P 500

Alpha over the last year is an astounding 7.5% (return assuming a zero return market)

The boring income portfolio has been a rock star this year.

The last 10 years this is a snoozer
Simply paying reliable, steady income in retirement with just enough growth to stay out in front of inflation over the long term.

Harvesting is just as important as growing. Both sides need to be asset allocated properly so you can basically sleep at night and ignore the “headlines”.
 
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So, what does that tell you?

We've read the articles on zh that asset inflation is a thing. It's bothered me that retail and the world basically consolidated their money into 6-7 stocks. 401k etfs went the same way.

Maybe retail just drove the volatility because they just plow into mag7 and tarrifs were the gasoline to that fire. When mag unwound alot of broad market stuff went with it as retail sold mostly etf holdings in retirement accts.
I was a lot more concerned about the plowing into mag7 until I saw the PE ratios coming down. Sure they aren't at utility levels, but they are below Cava, Chipolte, and Walmart. Actually Duke Power is at 21 PE so they are approaching utility levels.
 
So, what does that tell you?

We've read the articles on zh that asset inflation is a thing. It's bothered me that retail and the world basically consolidated their money into 6-7 stocks. 401k etfs went the same way.

Maybe retail just drove the volatility because they just plow into mag7 and tarrifs were the gasoline to that fire. When mag unwound alot of broad market stuff went with it as retail sold mostly etf holdings in retirement accts.
I was a lot more concerned about the plowing into mag7 until I saw the PE ratios coming down. Sure they aren't at utility levels, but they are below Cava, Chipolte, and Walmart. Actually Duke Power is at 21 PE so they are approaching utility levels.
Forward PE’s

AMZN 29 (never been this low)
AAPL 28 (not a cheap stock and revenue growth has stalled my least favorite of the Mag 6)
META 21 (screaming buy)
GOOGL 18 (screaming buy)
MSFT 27 (not screaming but I still love it for the AI growth which is not even being expressed yet)
NVDA 23 (insane buy)

These stocks should have been piled into and overweighted again on Monday the 7th and Tuesday the 8th

But that’s just my opinion…..they were fire sold back then.
 
@Todem what do you think of $URI at these levels?
This is a good company with a strong balance sheet and a great valuation down here.

I like it.
Rippy rippy today.

CFO made a good point about how any macro uncertainty like we're seeing causes companies to rent vs. buy, which is good for URI> They also said their own capital expenditures are already locked in, and have plenty of time to prepare for 2026 to find suppliers who are unaffected by tariffs (assuming they still exist by then, who really knows.)
 
So, what does that tell you?

We've read the articles on zh that asset inflation is a thing. It's bothered me that retail and the world basically consolidated their money into 6-7 stocks. 401k etfs went the same way.

Maybe retail just drove the volatility because they just plow into mag7 and tarrifs were the gasoline to that fire. When mag unwound alot of broad market stuff went with it as retail sold mostly etf holdings in retirement accts.
I was a lot more concerned about the plowing into mag7 until I saw the PE ratios coming down. Sure they aren't at utility levels, but they are below Cava, Chipolte, and Walmart. Actually Duke Power is at 21 PE so they are approaching utility levels.
Forward PE’s

AMZN 29 (never been this low)
AAPL 28 (not a cheap stock and revenue growth has stalled my least favorite of the Mag 6)
META 21 (screaming buy)
GOOGL 18 (screaming buy)
MSFT 27 (not screaming but I still love it for the AI growth which is not even being expressed yet)
NVDA 23 (insane buy)

These stocks should have been piled into and overweighted again on Monday the 7th and Tuesday the 8th

But that’s just my opinion…..they were fire sold back then.

Yeah I’ve been buying Amazon, Meta, Google and Softie hand over fist and took some profit on some bought near the bottom. Was looking at hedging that account with VDC or another consumer staples etf. Tough when a lot of those companies are still valued higher than the tech I’m hedging lol.
 
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Here is a perfect example of asset allocation.

My high yield income model which is 55% equity 31% Fixed Income 11.5% Alts and 3% cash

Gross return YTD 4.15% with a portfolio yield of 6.20%

Stocks held in this portfolio;

AAPL
AEP
AMZN
DE
DOW
EXC
GLPI
GOOGL
KO
META
MO
NVDA
O
PEP
PG
PM
T
VZ

ETF’s

BXMX
GCV
JEPI
PFXF
PHX


The rest is institutional share class bond mutual funds.

This is my sleep at night income in retirement portfolio for non tax sensitive people. Tax sensitive will have munis in place of corporates.

Asset allocation is alive and well in this market we are currently in. Even holding some Mag 6 stocks to boot.

Sector weightings

20% consumer defensive
3% healthcare
17.5% Utilities
22% Communication Services
4% Energy
6 % Industrials
8% Technology
2.4% Basic Materials
3.5% Consumer Cyclical
4.5% Financial Services
10% Real Estate

Bond quality

46% invesment grade short 5-9 years
13% investment grade Intermediate (7-10 years)
33% high yield short
7% high yield long (over 10 years)

No ultra short except the 3% cash

Been running this model for 20 plus years and yes some stocks and funds have changed over two decades but the strategy and investment policy and risk management has never waivered.

High current income with a small bit of growth and short to medium duration on all fixed income and preservation of capital In high stress event driven downturns.

The standard deviation on this high income portfolio over 5 years is 10.5 vs 17 on the S&P 500

Over 10 years 10 vs 15.38 on the S&P 500

Alpha over the last year is an astounding 7.5% (return assuming a zero return market)

The boring income portfolio has been a rock star this year.

The last 10 years this is a snoozer
Simply paying reliable, steady income in retirement with just enough growth to stay out in front of inflation over the long term.

Harvesting is just as important as growing. Both sides need to be asset allocated properly so you can basically sleep at night and ignore the “headlines”.
I wanna diversify with you, cowboy.
 
Here is a perfect example of asset allocation.

My high yield income model which is 55% equity 31% Fixed Income 11.5% Alts and 3% cash

Gross return YTD 4.15% with a portfolio yield of 6.20%

Stocks held in this portfolio;

AAPL
AEP
AMZN
DE
DOW
EXC
GLPI
GOOGL
KO
META
MO
NVDA
O
PEP
PG
PM
T
VZ

ETF’s

BXMX
GCV
JEPI
PFXF
PHX


The rest is institutional share class bond mutual funds.

This is my sleep at night income in retirement portfolio for non tax sensitive people. Tax sensitive will have munis in place of corporates.

Asset allocation is alive and well in this market we are currently in. Even holding some Mag 6 stocks to boot.

Sector weightings

20% consumer defensive
3% healthcare
17.5% Utilities
22% Communication Services
4% Energy
6 % Industrials
8% Technology
2.4% Basic Materials
3.5% Consumer Cyclical
4.5% Financial Services
10% Real Estate

Bond quality

46% invesment grade short 5-9 years
13% investment grade Intermediate (7-10 years)
33% high yield short
7% high yield long (over 10 years)

No ultra short except the 3% cash

Been running this model for 20 plus years and yes some stocks and funds have changed over two decades but the strategy and investment policy and risk management has never waivered.

High current income with a small bit of growth and short to medium duration on all fixed income and preservation of capital In high stress event driven downturns.

The standard deviation on this high income portfolio over 5 years is 10.5 vs 17 on the S&P 500

Over 10 years 10 vs 15.38 on the S&P 500

Alpha over the last year is an astounding 7.5% (return assuming a zero return market)

The boring income portfolio has been a rock star this year.

The last 10 years this is a snoozer
Simply paying reliable, steady income in retirement with just enough growth to stay out in front of inflation over the long term.

Harvesting is just as important as growing. Both sides need to be asset allocated properly so you can basically sleep at night and ignore the “headlines”.

Interesting - my stuff is right at 70/30 (I don't rebalance, so it was a little stock rich early in the year and a bit bond rich now). 1 year alpha 3.5%. 2 year alpha -1%. But that -1% is still +31%, so no complaints (with contributions +44%, so really no complaints there!). I don't have a good beta on my account vs the S&P, but I'd imagine its a bit more than your 10, though for sure under the index.

I'm letting cash pile up for now to try and drive to 60/40, at least. On the bond side I'd love to hear more about the 40% of high yield (long and short) you hold. I hold some JAAA and FSCO, but in smaller percentages than what you have in your bond side portfolio.
 
Here is a perfect example of asset allocation.

My high yield income model which is 55% equity 31% Fixed Income 11.5% Alts and 3% cash

Gross return YTD 4.15% with a portfolio yield of 6.20%

Stocks held in this portfolio;

AAPL
AEP
AMZN
DE
DOW
EXC
GLPI
GOOGL
KO
META
MO
NVDA
O
PEP
PG
PM
T
VZ

ETF’s

BXMX
GCV
JEPI
PFXF
PHX


The rest is institutional share class bond mutual funds.

This is my sleep at night income in retirement portfolio for non tax sensitive people. Tax sensitive will have munis in place of corporates.

Asset allocation is alive and well in this market we are currently in. Even holding some Mag 6 stocks to boot.

Sector weightings

20% consumer defensive
3% healthcare
17.5% Utilities
22% Communication Services
4% Energy
6 % Industrials
8% Technology
2.4% Basic Materials
3.5% Consumer Cyclical
4.5% Financial Services
10% Real Estate

Bond quality

46% invesment grade short 5-9 years
13% investment grade Intermediate (7-10 years)
33% high yield short
7% high yield long (over 10 years)

No ultra short except the 3% cash

Been running this model for 20 plus years and yes some stocks and funds have changed over two decades but the strategy and investment policy and risk management has never waivered.

High current income with a small bit of growth and short to medium duration on all fixed income and preservation of capital In high stress event driven downturns.

The standard deviation on this high income portfolio over 5 years is 10.5 vs 17 on the S&P 500

Over 10 years 10 vs 15.38 on the S&P 500

Alpha over the last year is an astounding 7.5% (return assuming a zero return market)

The boring income portfolio has been a rock star this year.

The last 10 years this is a snoozer
Simply paying reliable, steady income in retirement with just enough growth to stay out in front of inflation over the long term.

Harvesting is just as important as growing. Both sides need to be asset allocated properly so you can basically sleep at night and ignore the “headlines”.

Interesting - my stuff is right at 70/30 (I don't rebalance, so it was a little stock rich early in the year and a bit bond rich now). 1 year alpha 3.5%. 2 year alpha -1%. But that -1% is still +31%, so no complaints (with contributions +44%, so really no complaints there!). I don't have a good beta on my account vs the S&P, but I'd imagine its a bit more than your 10, though for sure under the index.

I'm letting cash pile up for now to try and drive to 60/40, at least. On the bond side I'd love to hear more about the 40% of high yield (long and short) you hold. I hold some JAAA and FSCO, but in smaller percentages than what you have in your bond side portfolio.
Well I use a few high yield bond funds in

Alliance Bernstein High Income
Blackrock High Yield
MFS Emerging Market Debt

I also hired TRowe Price Global Multi Sector Bond fund which is a go anywhere currently yielding 5%

We use a Senior Floating Rate etf from Invesvo BKLN with a current yield of 8.07%

And you know GCV which is the convertable part of the portfolio sitting at 13.95% yield (yeah it’s really spicy)
 
Here is a perfect example of asset allocation.

My high yield income model which is 55% equity 31% Fixed Income 11.5% Alts and 3% cash

Gross return YTD 4.15% with a portfolio yield of 6.20%

Stocks held in this portfolio;

AAPL
AEP
AMZN
DE
DOW
EXC
GLPI
GOOGL
KO
META
MO
NVDA
O
PEP
PG
PM
T
VZ

ETF’s

BXMX
GCV
JEPI
PFXF
PHX


The rest is institutional share class bond mutual funds.

This is my sleep at night income in retirement portfolio for non tax sensitive people. Tax sensitive will have munis in place of corporates.

Asset allocation is alive and well in this market we are currently in. Even holding some Mag 6 stocks to boot.

Sector weightings

20% consumer defensive
3% healthcare
17.5% Utilities
22% Communication Services
4% Energy
6 % Industrials
8% Technology
2.4% Basic Materials
3.5% Consumer Cyclical
4.5% Financial Services
10% Real Estate

Bond quality

46% invesment grade short 5-9 years
13% investment grade Intermediate (7-10 years)
33% high yield short
7% high yield long (over 10 years)

No ultra short except the 3% cash

Been running this model for 20 plus years and yes some stocks and funds have changed over two decades but the strategy and investment policy and risk management has never waivered.

High current income with a small bit of growth and short to medium duration on all fixed income and preservation of capital In high stress event driven downturns.

The standard deviation on this high income portfolio over 5 years is 10.5 vs 17 on the S&P 500

Over 10 years 10 vs 15.38 on the S&P 500

Alpha over the last year is an astounding 7.5% (return assuming a zero return market)

The boring income portfolio has been a rock star this year.

The last 10 years this is a snoozer
Simply paying reliable, steady income in retirement with just enough growth to stay out in front of inflation over the long term.

Harvesting is just as important as growing. Both sides need to be asset allocated properly so you can basically sleep at night and ignore the “headlines”.

Interesting - my stuff is right at 70/30 (I don't rebalance, so it was a little stock rich early in the year and a bit bond rich now). 1 year alpha 3.5%. 2 year alpha -1%. But that -1% is still +31%, so no complaints (with contributions +44%, so really no complaints there!). I don't have a good beta on my account vs the S&P, but I'd imagine its a bit more than your 10, though for sure under the index.

I'm letting cash pile up for now to try and drive to 60/40, at least. On the bond side I'd love to hear more about the 40% of high yield (long and short) you hold. I hold some JAAA and FSCO, but in smaller percentages than what you have in your bond side portfolio.
Are you considering retirement soon?
 
For those into technical trading, Palantir has broke through 50 and 200 MA and recent resistance.
 
Tin owners - Looks like a cease fire is in the works between M23 rebels, Rwanda, DRC and any other party with an interest in peace in the region. Hopefully this is a lasting one and business returns to normal. If we're still bullish on AI buildout, you better damn well be bullish on tin.
 
I'm taking advantage of the last few green days to pull back the cash I had put back to work in my 401K. So now back to 100% cash from 80%. I'll take the 4% and wait for the effects of the whipsaw changes to show up in the economic data - I think a better entry point is ahead, IMO. Good luck to all. :thumbup:
 
I'm taking advantage of the last few green days to pull back the cash I had put back to work in my 401K. So now back to 100% cash from 80%. I'll take the 4% and wait for the effects of the whipsaw changes to show up in the economic data - I think a better entry point is ahead, IMO. Good luck to all. :thumbup:

I think so too but I’m not confident enough to make a 100% decision either way. Was up to 65% equities, back to my comfort zone of 50%. Back to even for the year after today.
 
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I'm taking advantage of the last few green days to pull back the cash I had put back to work in my 401K. So now back to 100% cash from 80%. I'll take the 4% and wait for the effects of the whipsaw changes to show up in the economic data - I think a better entry point is ahead, IMO. Good luck to all. :thumbup:
Pretty ballsy move swinging for the fences like this. The only guys who call the bottom right are the guys who put out a new youtube video every day.
 
For those into technical trading, Palantir has broke through 50 and 200 MA and recent resistance.
Had 1000 shares bought at 10 and sold at 35. The only consolation to seeing that I could've had over a 10 bagger and sent both my kids to college on that profit is that I doubt my brain could ever rationalize me holding that long based on fundamentals. 3x sounded great at the time. Have to believe I would've gotten out sometime before the 100's. Never thought an equity with 2.5 billion shares could move like it does. It's almost GME crazy, albeit with an actual viable growing business. Haunted by PLTR. The lesson I learned is that it's ok to take the initial investment out and let some things ride. Would've, should've, could've.
 
Boom....

Here’s how the company did, compared with estimates from analysts polled by LSEG:

  • Revenue: $90.23 billion vs. $89.12 billion, estimated
  • Earnings per share: $2.81 vs. $2.01, estimated



Wall Street is also watching several other numbers in the report:

  • YouTube advertising revenue: $8.93 billion versus $8.97 billion, according to StreetAccount
  • Google Cloud revenue: $12.26 billion versus $12.27 billion, according to StreetAccount
  • Traffic acquisition costs (TAC): $13.75 billion versus $13.66 billion, according to StreetAccount
Alphabet’s search and advertising units are still showing strong growth despite AI competition heating up, according to its first-quarter earnings report.

The company’s overall revenue grew 12% year-over-year, higher than the 10% Wall Street expected.

Google’s YouTube advertising revenue came in just short of analyst expectations at $8.93 billion. Overall advertising brought in $66.89 billion, up 8.5% from the year prior.

The company’s “Search and other” segment reported $50.7 billion — up 9.8% from $46.16 billion a year prior. Alphabet said AI Overviews, its AI tool placed at the top of Google’s search results page, now has 1.5 billion users per month, up from 1 billion in October.




Philipp Schindler, Google’s business chief, said that the company is “not immune to the macro environment,” adding that President Donald Trump’s decision to end the de minimis trade loophole next month will “cause a slight headwind to our Ads business in 2025, primarily from APAC-based retailers.”

The de minimis trade exemption allows shipments worth less than $800 to enter the U.S. duty-free, a key part of the businesses of Chinese e-commerce companies Temu and Shein, which have previously spent extensively in online ads. The exemption is slated to close on May 2.

“I would say we have a lot of experience in managing through uncertain times, and we focus on helping our customers by providing deep insights into changing consumer behavior that is relevant to their business,” Schindler said.

Finance, retail, health care and travel were among the top industries advertising with Google, helping revenue growth, Schindler said.

Alphabet’s net income increased 46% to $34.54 billion, or $2.81 a share, from $23.66 billion, or $1.89 a share, a year earlier. The company said that included $8 billion in unrealized gains on its non-marketable equity securities related to Alphabet’s investment in a private company.

The company reported revenue of $12.26 billion for its cloud computing business, which was slightly below analysts’ expectations of $12.27 billion, according to StreetAccount. But the cloud unit saw its revenue increase 28% year-over-year, and its margins came in at 17.8%, compared to 9.4% a year ago.

Alphabet made its largest acquisition ever in March when it agreed to buy Wiz for $32 billion in cash, almost $10 billion more than it offered for the startup in 2024, and said it expects the deal to close next year, subject to regulatory approvals. With the acquisition, Google will seek to bolster its cloud division’s security offerings.

“We think this will help spur more multi-cloud computing, something our customers want,” Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai said about the acquisition on a call with analysts on Thursday.

The company said its “Other Bets” segment, which includes its self-driving car unit Waymo and life sciences unit Verily, brought in $450 million, down 9% from $495 million a year earlier. The unit lost $1.23 billion — up from $1.02 billion the year prior.

Alphabet said Waymo is providing more than 250,000 fully autonomous paid rides per week across the San Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix and Austin regions. That’s up from 200,000 in February, before the service opened in Austin and the broader San Francisco Bay Area.

“Waymo is continuing to progress in building on its impressive technological achievements to scale rapidly and develop a sustainable business model,” Alphabet CFO Anat Ashkenazi said on the Thursday call.

Ashkenazi also said the company still expects to invest approximately $75 billion in capital expenditures this year but stipulated “the investment level may fluctuate from quarter to quarter due to the impact of changes in the timing of deliveries and construction schedules.”

Alphabet also said that its board authorized it to repurchase an additional $70 billion in shares, just as it did a year ago.
 
For those into technical trading, Palantir has broke through 50 and 200 MA and recent resistance.
Had 1000 shares bought at 10 and sold at 35. The only consolation to seeing that I could've had over a 10 bagger and sent both my kids to college on that profit is that I doubt my brain could ever rationalize me holding that long based on fundamentals. 3x sounded great at the time. Have to believe I would've gotten out sometime before the 100's. Never thought an equity with 2.5 billion shares could move like it does. It's almost GME crazy, albeit with an actual viable growing business. Haunted by PLTR. The lesson I learned is that it's ok to take the initial investment out and let some things ride. Would've, should've, could've.
Well I got lucky. I had 100 shares at $12.11. Sold 70 between $100 and $140 as I recall. Only reason I didn't do what you did is that I didn't look at the market for three years starting a new business. I lost 47% in 2022 and gained 36% and 33% the next two. That 47% loss pretty much wiped out my 2020 double up.
 
For those into technical trading, Palantir has broke through 50 and 200 MA and recent resistance.
Price to sales still like 419x?
I know. These technical guys swear by this stuff and we even have some of them on the board here.
If you're going to bash people who use technical analysis to supplement their investment decisions, at least get the metrics correct

PLTR has been trading above its 200 DMA for almost two years
 
Rock and rolling in the after hours.
For those into technical trading, Palantir has broke through 50 and 200 MA and recent resistance.
Price to sales still like 419x?
I know. These technical guys swear by this stuff and we even have some of them on the board here.
If you're going to bash people who use technical analysis to supplement their investment decisions, at least get the metrics correct

PLTR has been trading above its 200 DMA for almost two years
I'm not bashing anyone, considering trailing this. I was pointing out an opportunity that the technical guys may have missed since not many stocks show good technical metrics right now.

My post could have been clearer...I meant that it broke through all three of the Trinity at the same time; 50 day, 200 day, and trough. Also should have added that it was coming off a double bottom bounce. The only thing missing was a decent spike in volume on the upswing.

Since you're a technical guy, is this the time to buy with all the boxes checked except volume?
 
World may not like us right now, but China isn't winning friends either...


South Korea’s data protection authority has concluded that Chinese artificial intelligence startup DeepSeek collected personal information from local users and transferred it overseas without their permission.

The authority, the Personal Information Protection Commission, released its written findings on Thursday in connection with a privacy and security review of DeepSeek.


It follows DeepSeek’s removal of its chatbot application from South Korean app stores in February at the recommendation of PICP. The agency said DeepSeek had committed to cooperate on its concerns.

During DeepSeek’s presence in South Korea, it transferred user data to several firms in China and the U.S. without obtaining the necessary consent from users or disclosing the practice, the PIPC said.

The agency highlighted a particular case in which DeepSeek transferred information from user-written AI prompts, as well as device, network, and app information, to a Chinese cloud service platform named Beijing Volcano Engine Technology Co.

While the PIPC identified Beijing Volcano Engine Technology Co. as “an affiliate” of TikTok-owner ByteDance, the information privacy watchdog noted in a statement that the cloud platform “is a separate legal entity and has no relation to ByteDance,” according to a Google translation.

According to PIPC, DeepSeek said it used Beijing Volcano Engine Technology’s services to improve the security and user experience of its app, but later blocked the transfer of AI prompt information from April 10.


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OpenAI calls for U.S. DeepSeek ban

DeepSeek and ByteDance did not immediately respond to inquiries from CNBC.

The Hangzhou-based AI startup took the world by storm in January when it unveiled its R1 reasoning model, rivaling the performance of Western competitors despite the company’s claims that it was trained for relatively low costs and with less advanced hardware.

However, the app’s rising popularity quickly triggered national security and data concerns outside China due to Beijing’s requirement for domestic firms to share data with the PRC. Cybersecurity experts have also flagged data vulnerabilities in the app and voiced concerns about the company’s privacy policy.

PIPC on Thursday said it had issued a corrective recommendation to DeepSeek, which includes requests to immediately destroy AI prompt information transferred to the Chinese company in question and to set up legal protocols for transferring personal information overseas.

When the data protection authority announced the removal of DeepSeek from local app stores, it signaled that the app would become available again once the company implemented the necessary updates to comply with local data protection policy.

That investigation followed reports that some South Korean government agencies had banned employees from using DeepSeek on work devices. Other global government departments, including in Taiwan, Australia, and the U.S., have reportedly instituted similar bans.
 
Rock and rolling in the after hours.
For those into technical trading, Palantir has broke through 50 and 200 MA and recent resistance.
Price to sales still like 419x?
I know. These technical guys swear by this stuff and we even have some of them on the board here.
If you're going to bash people who use technical analysis to supplement their investment decisions, at least get the metrics correct

PLTR has been trading above its 200 DMA for almost two years
I'm not bashing anyone, considering trailing this. I was pointing out an opportunity that the technical guys may have missed since not many stocks show good technical metrics right now.

My post could have been clearer...I meant that it broke through all three of the Trinity at the same time; 50 day, 200 day, and trough. Also should have added that it was coming off a double bottom bounce. The only thing missing was a decent spike in volume on the upswing.

Since you're a technical guy, is this the time to buy with all the boxes checked except volume?
Shouldn't matter to you. Just buy the dip
 

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