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They see the incongruent hand size when he picks up a water bottle with both hands and they just gotta see.The rich old man can’t have extra marital sex without a willing partner.. Why can’t these women just say no?
They see the incongruent hand size when he picks up a water bottle with both hands and they just gotta see.The rich old man can’t have extra marital sex without a willing partner.. Why can’t these women just say no?
You don't pay for the sex, you pay for them to leave after. Or in this case, keep quiet. I don't believe Trump paid Stormy on the night of the escapade. He only promised her a quid pro quo. Which of course he didn't deliver on.Sex workers.. What a polite way to say whore.,
She wasn't the married one. Is there anything your orange messiah could possibly do that would make you doubt your love for him?The rich old man can’t have extra marital sex without a willing partner.. Why can’t these women just say no?
misogyny... funny...Trumps behavior was inappropriate but no more wrong inappropriate than the Porn Star and the Playboy Playmate.In case you guys somehow hadn't previously realized that this is a exaggerated misogyny shtick account ....
Strippers and porn stars aren’t prostitutes.Sex workers.. What a polite way to say whore.,
He wasn’t talking about Trump.misogyny... funny...Trumps behavior was inappropriate but no more wrong inappropriate than the Porn Star and the Playboy Playmate.
Trump as a person is a piece of ####... What do you think of the women who slept with him ?She wasn't the married one. Is there anything your orange messiah could possibly do that would make you doubt your love for him?
Remind me, did she have the NDA when she told the story to US Weekly or whatever?If you’re a famous person who cheats on his wife, you should probably expect to have the story told to the whole world.
Good postLook, 63 million people voted for Trump, and I would guess that almost none of them would be shocked by this behavior. The voters knew what kind of guy this was; they voted for him anyhow.
I think America is highly disappointed in Trump and it will be borne out this November. I think any decent Democratic candidate will have a great chance to defeat Trump in 2020. But none of it will have anything to do with Stormy Daniels.
Lets move on.
You're more or less right. Daniels relationship with Trump isn't the story here really. It opens the door to Mueller, I suppose, and a Dem congress that could go after him finally with the payments to her.Look, 63 million people voted for Trump, and I would guess that almost none of them would be shocked by this behavior. The voters knew what kind of guy this was; they voted for him anyhow.
I think America is highly disappointed in Trump and it will be borne out this November. I think any decent Democratic candidate will have a great chance to defeat Trump in 2020. But none of it will have anything to do with Stormy Daniels.
Lets move on.
no....NDA was established 10 days before electionRemind me, did she have the NDA when she told the story to US Weekly or whatever?
I kinda think threatening Daniels when she was with her kid was worse than anything Daniels or McDougal did wrong. Also kinda think cheating on his wife while she's at home caring for his newborn son was substantially worse than anything Daniels or McDougal did wrong. And I kinda think if he was involved in coercing McDougal to sign a catch and kill contract with the National Enquirer based on attorney collusion and false promises (which he obviously was), that would be worse than anything Daniels or McDougal did wrong.misogyny... funny...Trumps behavior was inappropriate but no more wrong inappropriate than the Porn Star and the Playboy Playmate.
They can’t keep their story straight. The company is supposed to be the party, instead the lawyer for the lawyer for the president just says he represents Cohen. Trump is supposed to not be involved, instead his own Trump Org counsel appears in Trump’s name and joins in the arbitration demand. I’m really just waiting for a judge to act and it may not be until June-July.Maggie HabermanVerified account @maggieNYT
Cohen’s lawyer fired back almost immediately after the Daniels interview with this letter saying allegation of goon threatening her was false >>
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Yeah sure, there's at least two dozen other stories about Trump that show what a low-life piece of garbage he is, not to mention what a huge national security risk it is because his embarrassing and almost certainly criminal past makes him vulnerable to blackmailing and corruption. But if this one that sticks and makes a few more people realize it because it's lurid and gossipy and fairly straightforward, that's a good thing for the country. If not, fine, on to the next one. But I don't see the harm in pressing it. What exactly are we sacrificing by doing so?Look, 63 million people voted for Trump, and I would guess that almost none of them would be shocked by this behavior. The voters knew what kind of guy this was; they voted for him anyhow.
I think America is highly disappointed in Trump and it will be borne out this November. I think any decent Democratic candidate will have a great chance to defeat Trump in 2020. But none of it will have anything to do with Stormy Daniels.
Lets move on.
He's always been exactly like this. You sure you're not confusing him with Limp Ditka? I've made that mistake before.I must say, I do not recall Ditka Butkis being like this. it disturbs me. I sincerely hope that the common elements in our screen names does not cause others to conflate the two of us.
Anyhow, have fun discussing the events of the day.
Trump was a married man with a newborn at home. He promised a porn star a spot on his TV show to give her exposure. He used his money and power to bang a woman who wouldn't even give him a second look under normal circumstances. He then paid her off to keep his adultery from ruining his election bid.Trump as a person is a piece of ####... What do you think of the women who slept with him ?
And who doesn't on the bolded (besides gay guys)?It's our fault that Trump favors playmates, hookers, and porn skanks?
Perhaps. Actually good call.He's always been exactly like this. You sure you're not confusing him with Limp Ditka? I've made that mistake before.
The funny thing is what a different tune you guys are singing now that it isn't Bill Clinton.And who doesn't on the bolded (besides gay guys)?
This whole thing - rich guy pays for sex. Never liked him, still don't like him, but this whole thing is nothing but a 4th estate revenge plot come to fruition.
The funny thing is what a different tune you guys are singing now that it isn't Bill Clinton.
And Trump paid off numerous women to silence them to avoid losing the election. That's a whole other level.
I like Bill Clinton. But he did his thing in office - that's a whole other level.
The rest of it with him never bothered me. It's obvious he's in an open marriage.
Trump isn’t the big revelation here. His lawyer should be disbarred.Look, 63 million people voted for Trump, and I would guess that almost none of them would be shocked by this behavior. The voters knew what kind of guy this was; they voted for him anyhow.
I think America is highly disappointed in Trump and it will be borne out this November. I think any decent Democratic candidate will have a great chance to defeat Trump in 2020. But none of it will have anything to do with Stormy Daniels.
Lets move on.
The sex isn't really the problem here. It's the cover-up and the threats and the lies and character attacks and the violations of campaign finance laws, which were going on while he was the GOP nominee for president and continue as he's the president. The sex is just what gets people to pay attention to this story, as opposed to the dozens of other stories of his unethical behavior and vulnerability to blackmail.
I like Bill Clinton. But he did his thing in office - that's a whole other level.
The rest of it with him never bothered me. It's obvious he's in an open marriage.
Rich men have been paying for sex for, oh, all of human history, I'm sure. None of this surprises me, particularly given what Trump was before the election.And Trump paid off numerous women to silence them to avoid losing the election. That's a whole other level.
Trump says this never happened. You calling him a liar?Trump as a person is a piece of ####... What do you think of the women who slept with him ?
Unprotected sex with a porn star and a playmate makes this irrelevant. At that point he’s endangering his wife and child. Though if the argument is it’s a sham marriage then maybe that helps.It's obvious he's in an open marriage.
I'm sure you're right - and that's pretty sad. Maybe I just have different views than most on this stuff. Glass houses and all that (not saying I've paid 6 figures for Stormy Daniels' company - :X - just to get that out there.)But regardless, if you don't think the GOP would have marched on the Obama White House with pitchforks and torches if there'd been an identical story about him during his presidency, you're out of your mind.
I was speaking of Clinton there. I highly doubt Trump was ever in an open marriage. It's plainly obvious the Clintons are.Unprotected sex with a porn star and a playmate makes this irrelevant. At that point he’s endangering his wife and child. Though if the argument is it’s a sham marriage then maybe that helps.
About 20 years ago, sheesh, maybe 25, some GB's and myself decided to catch a Cub game. It was the end of May and cold and ####, actually snowing. So we head to a bar to escape the cold and as a GB and myself are talking a couple of cute young ladies walk over to introduce themselves. One of them was Amanda which I remember because GB replied "oh the same as my daughter". They left immediately.A few things to remember:
- Stormy was 27 at the time, Trump was 60.
- Trump bedded Stormy by offering her a spot on The Apprentice. And he also bedded her by complimenting her by comparing her to his own daughter.
The bolded/underlined part is really the only thing I care about in this mess.The sex isn't really the problem here. It's the cover-up and the threats and the lies and character attacks and the violations of campaign finance laws, which were going on while he was the GOP nominee for president and continue as he's the president. The sex is just what gets people to pay attention to this story, as opposed to the dozens of other stories of his unethical behavior and vulnerability to blackmail.
That plus the fact that Trump is the GOP and the GOP is the party that spent the better part of the last two decades attacking equal rights in the name of defending "the sanctity of marriage" while attacking Obama for everything he'd done in his entire life literally from birth, with Trump himself joining many of those efforts.
Of course....how does this address the potential issues created via the lens of improper contributions to a campaign? I don't think anyone here cares about the sex part, even though at least some of the same people who don't have a problem with it now did have a problem with it During Slick Willy's term. Pointing out that hypocrisy at this point is simply piling on.Rich men have been paying for sex for, oh, all of human history, I'm sure. None of this surprises me, particularly given what Trump was before the election.
Yeah, no one was surprised that Trumps actions reveals him as a dispicable personThe bolded/underlined part is really the only thing I care about in this mess.
Really? A President and his legal are using threats of violence and other coercive measures in addition to promoting fraudulent misrepresentation is ok with you?The bolded/underlined part is really the only thing I care about in this mess.
So Clinton gets impeached for a BJ. John Edwards' political career is destroyed because he had sex while married. But Donald Trump gets a pass because he's always been an adulterous piece of ####? That's the new GOP goal post?Rich men have been paying for sex for, oh, all of human history, I'm sure. None of this surprises me, particularly given what Trump was before the election.
That's a good point. I meant more along the lines of the tawdriness of the whole Stormy/Trump relationship. None of the gory details interest me in the least.Really? A President and his legal are using threats of violence and other coercive measures in addition to promoting fraudulent misrepresentation is ok with you?
Has our bar been lowered that far?
I've read the articles of impeachment against Clinton. BJ's were not listed. As for Edwards I believe he went down for hypocrisy, not extramarital sex. His story, the base of his support was his strong family ties weathered through a bought with breast cancer in his wife. He was the stalwart who stood with her. Thus was the image. The reality of him fathering a kid on a campaign worker while his wife languished did him in. He lived by the Oprah crowd and he died by them.So Clinton gets impeached for a BJ. John Edwards' political career is destroyed because he had sex while married. But Donald Trump gets a pass because he's always been an adulterous piece of ####? That's the new GOP goal post?
Regardless where you stand on that issue, it's not close to the most damning accusations here. Setting someone up with an attorney who is on the take while physically threatening and coercing someone into doing as you wish is so far beyond what SHOULD be acceptable to the American public.If we're all gonna sing kumbaya here and agree that infidelity is no longer a disqualifying factor in a president, then I'd like us all to stay consistent about that going forward.
Any of youse got a problem widdat?
Pretty much with you there. That's hardly the issue - other than the clear hypocrisy it shows among a group of flip flopping, weak willed pathetic cheerleaders who clearly stand for nothing more than their team, their guy, their party and "screwing the Liberals"That's a good point. I meant more along the lines of the tawdriness of the whole Stormy/Trump relationship. None of the gory details interest me in the least.
Junior obviously does.Of course....how does this address the potential issues created via the lens of improper contributions to a campaign? I don't think anyone here cares about the sex part, even though at least some of the same people who don't have a problem with it now did have a problem with it During Slick Willy's term. Pointing out that hypocrisy at this point is simply piling on.
Clinton's book has been written. - Trump is president right now. As a public official people have a right to know what he did here.I was speaking of Clinton there. I highly doubt Trump was ever in an open marriage. It's plainly obvious the Clintons are.
so it's their fault?The rich old man can’t have extra marital sex without a willing partner.. Why can’t these women just say no?
Clinton got impeached for lying to Congress, if I recall. Edwards got caught up in his affair during the election - bad timing. The electorate is a fickle beast.So Clinton gets impeached for a BJ. John Edwards' political career is destroyed because he had sex while married. But Donald Trump gets a pass because he's always been an adulterous piece of ####? That's the new GOP goal post?
The idea this isn't a legitimate journalistic public issue worth covering is absolutely laughable.And who doesn't on the bolded (besides gay guys)?
This whole thing - rich guy pays for sex. Never liked him, still don't like him, but this whole thing is nothing but a 4th estate revenge plot come to fruition.