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[videoguy505]

Stupid question -- the obvious strategy here to me, based on the format, seemed to be to load up most of your cash at WR. The reason? As I understand it, your top 3 WRs get scored each week. That is more than at any other position. Accordingly, to maximize your "hit ratio" and ensure that most of your dollars have a chance to contribute each week, wouldn't it make the most sense to invest the most at the WR position (particularly since the scoring is PPR, which makes WRs essentially equivalent to RBs)?Obviously value is going to take it at the end, but if you can maximize your dollar value at the WR spot, I think you end up with the most consistent lineup weekly. And in this survivor format, the most important thing is consistency.Just my thought. Not sure if this was discussed in here previously, but I also see a lot of teams that have high-dollar QBs and RBs, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me (despite the fact that some of these teams are putting up huge point totals).

Same thing I was thinking, spread the cash on 4-5 good WRs so that chances are 3 will hit every week, and tread water with pass-catching RBs. I did bring this up earlier, I believe the response was "you were dropped on your head as a baby, weren't you?" That's what you get for thinking outside the box.

 

[Fruitbat]

I'm alive with 139 points. How many of the LT/LJ + Gore combos are on the outside looking in this week? Hate to say I told you so but ... *cough cough*

I'm still here.I'd be feeling better except for the recent Gore news however. I suspect lots of LT/Gore owners are in the same situationas me...also having Turner as a handcuff, and with 2 other marginal RBs (Ahman and Bush for me). We'll all be fighting each other on the weeks LT has mere mortal performances and the teams with weak QB/WR performances will fall off. Here's hoping that Glenn/Toomer/MJones/McCardell/Jennings/Gabriel/Bryant keep up the good work.

 

[Random]

I'm alive with 139 points. How many of the LT/LJ + Gore combos are on the outside looking in this week? Hate to say I told you so but ... *cough cough*

I own LT2 and scored 137.3 this week.Why do you guys think the LT/LJ owners would drop like flys this week. We all obviously have other RBs. Everyone is going to have bye weeks, so wouldn't you want them early? If not, please tell me why.

 

[massraider]

Stupid question -- the obvious strategy here to me, based on the format, seemed to be to load up most of your cash at WR. The reason? As I understand it, your top 3 WRs get scored each week. That is more than at any other position. Accordingly, to maximize your "hit ratio" and ensure that most of your dollars have a chance to contribute each week, wouldn't it make the most sense to invest the most at the WR position (particularly since the scoring is PPR, which makes WRs essentially equivalent to RBs)?Obviously value is going to take it at the end, but if you can maximize your dollar value at the WR spot, I think you end up with the most consistent lineup weekly. And in this survivor format, the most important thing is consistency.Just my thought. Not sure if this was discussed in here previously, but I also see a lot of teams that have high-dollar QBs and RBs, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me (despite the fact that some of these teams are putting up huge point totals).

Same thing I was thinking, spread the cash on 4-5 good WRs so that chances are 3 will hit every week, and tread water with pass-catching RBs. I did bring this up earlier, I believe the response was "you were dropped on your head as a baby, weren't you?" That's what you get for thinking outside the box.

I kind of followed that format, but spent a decent amount on backs (Dunn, Bush, Rhodes, Gore, DeAngelo).I'd say that with the tendency of even the best WR's having off days, it was more important to have 7 guys that could contribute, rather than 3 studs, and 4 prayers. My highest priced WR was 23 bucks.As this contest has gone on, I happen to think the biggest factor is going to be health. The teams that will be there at the end, will have almost no injuries. JMO. But Chris Simms was on a lot of rosters. Tough to go forward in this contest with only two QB's.

 

[oddball]

PRICE WK 1 WK 2 WK 3

---------------------------------------------

Jon Kitna $12 11.4 17.6 25.9

Donovan McNabb $22 27.4 28.6 22.9

Chris Simms $10 4.0 13.0 16.1

Willie Parker $32 15.8 5.6 27.6

Ahman Green $18 16.2 15.0 27.1

Travis Henry $ 2 15.4 0.0 9.0

Jamal Lewis $24 13.8 7.0 8.6

Marion Barber III $10 4.6 13.5 0.0

Troy Williamson $ 4 11.7 16.2 7.9

Joey Galloway $21 0.0 25.1 7.8

Joe Horn $16 4.5 13.8 7.7

Antonio Bryant $ 9 15.4 23.1 7.6

Michael Clayton $ 9 6.4 11.2 2.4

Terry Glenn $13 12.1 21.4 0.0

Matt Jones $14 11.5 13.3 0.0

Kellen Winslow Jr $10 20.3 8.2 16.2

Ben Troupe $ 8 3.3 0.0 6.1

David Akers $ 2 6.0 6.0 8.0

Neil Rackers $ 4 10.0 4.0 2.0

Indianapolis Colts $ 5 4.0 8.0 11.0

Dallas Cowboys $ 5 3.0 8.0 0.0

---------------------------------------------

TOTAL 132.9 148.9 139.2

CUTOFF 0.0 123.7 125.3

Amazing. I thought my WR play would tank me this week...

 

[WisWolvrns]

I'm alive with 139 points. How many of the LT/LJ + Gore combos are on the outside looking in this week? Hate to say I told you so but ... *cough cough*

I own LT2 and scored 137.3 this week.Why do you guys think the LT/LJ owners would drop like flys this week. We all obviously have other RBs. Everyone is going to have bye weeks, so wouldn't you want them early? If not, please tell me why.

LT surviver here. (+MBIII) Albeit, I can't say I chose wisely at my other RB spots... having Gore, Chris Brown *cough*, and gamble Cedric Cobbs *cough, wheeze, ick* So I'm considering myself lucky for surviving a week with only Gore scoring. But as the poster above mentioned, wouldn't week 3 be the best week to "risk it" per se? Figuring the more teams still in it, the more likely you can squeak by on a lower cutoff than later in the season when the cutoffs drift higher?

 

[pantagrapher]

All the people who took Gore are gonna be cut in week 3 when he gets stuffed by the Eagles.

Bump.Gore owner here. I'm still in w/159.4. Anyone else?

 

[videoguy505]

LT surviver here. (+MBIII) Albeit, I can't say I chose wisely at my other RB spots... having Gore, Chris Brown *cough*, and gamble Cedric Cobbs *cough, wheeze, ick* So I'm considering myself lucky for surviving a week with only Gore scoring. But as the poster above mentioned, wouldn't week 3 be the best week to "risk it" per se? Figuring the more teams still in it, the more likely you can squeak by on a lower cutoff than later in the season when the cutoffs drift higher?

No, week 4 is the best week to "risk it". 20% of the field was cut this week. The deepest cut for a month. Next week, only about 12% are cut, the shallowest cut we'll see.

 

[JMJ]

142.7

Hey DJ, throw on some Bee Gees would ya?

Whether you're a brother or whether you're a mother,

you're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.

Feel the city breaking and everybody shaking,

and we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.

Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' alive, stayin' alive.

Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' alive.

 

[perry147]

All the people who took Gore are gonna be cut in week 3 when he gets stuffed by the Eagles.

Bump.Gore owner here. I'm still in. Anyone else?

Gore owner and still alive and well also.

 

[JMJ]

All the people who took Gore are gonna be cut in week 3 when he gets stuffed by the Eagles.

Bump.Gore owner here. I'm still in w/159.4. Anyone else?

Yes. Gore owner here also singing some Bee Gees.

 

[massraider]

LT surviver here. (+MBIII) Albeit, I can't say I chose wisely at my other RB spots... having Gore, Chris Brown *cough*, and gamble Cedric Cobbs *cough, wheeze, ick* So I'm considering myself lucky for surviving a week with only Gore scoring. But as the poster above mentioned, wouldn't week 3 be the best week to "risk it" per se? Figuring the more teams still in it, the more likely you can squeak by on a lower cutoff than later in the season when the cutoffs drift higher?

No, week 4 is the best week to "risk it". 20% of the field was cut this week. The deepest cut for a month. Next week, only about 12% are cut, the shallowest cut we'll see.

Heck, where was this post a month ago?

 

[Marauder]

I'm out. Crumpler dropping that easy TD last night cost me $25K.

PRICE WK 1 WK 2 WK 3

---------------------------------------------

Carson Palmer $22 6.2 23.7 24.1

Kurt Warner $15 27.1 14.7 14.8

Matt Leinart $ 5 0.0 0.0 0.0

Frank Gore $10 35.0 21.7 13.4

Warrick Dunn $33 15.2 13.4 6.6

LaDainian Tomlinson $71 23.9 31.2 0.0

Michael Turner $ 5 9.7 17.5 0.0

Jerious Norwood $ 2 6.6 6.7 0.0

Braylon Edwards $ 2 4.3 15.0 22.6

Lee Evans $14 4.5 3.9 18.7

Reggie Brown $13 10.0 9.3 15.6

Nate Burleson $ 6 4.6 1.7 14.2

Drew Bennett $ 8 18.6 13.5 13.4

Troy Williamson $ 4 11.7 16.2 7.9

Antonio Bryant $ 9 15.4 23.1 7.6

Alge Crumpler $15 11.7 3.2 9.9

Randy McMichael $10 2.0 6.4 3.5

Stephen Gostkowski $ 1 5.0 6.0 1.0

Sebastian Janikowski $ 1 0.0 6.0 0.0

Cincinnati Bengals $ 2 13.0 6.0 13.0

San Diego Chargers $ 2 11.0 4.0 0.0

---------------------------------------------

TOTAL 161.4 149.3 124.9

CUTOFF 0.0 123.7 125.3

 

[perry147]

I'm out. Crumpler dropping that easy TD last night cost me $25K. PRICE WK 1 WK 2 WK 3 ---------------------------------------------Carson Palmer $22 6.2 23.7 24.1 Kurt Warner $15 27.1 14.7 14.8 Matt Leinart $ 5 0.0 0.0 0.0 Frank Gore $10 35.0 21.7 13.4 Warrick Dunn $33 15.2 13.4 6.6 LaDainian Tomlinson $71 23.9 31.2 0.0 Michael Turner $ 5 9.7 17.5 0.0 Jerious Norwood $ 2 6.6 6.7 0.0 Braylon Edwards $ 2 4.3 15.0 22.6 Lee Evans $14 4.5 3.9 18.7 Reggie Brown $13 10.0 9.3 15.6 Nate Burleson $ 6 4.6 1.7 14.2 Drew Bennett $ 8 18.6 13.5 13.4 Troy Williamson $ 4 11.7 16.2 7.9 Antonio Bryant $ 9 15.4 23.1 7.6 Alge Crumpler $15 11.7 3.2 9.9 Randy McMichael $10 2.0 6.4 3.5 Stephen Gostkowski $ 1 5.0 6.0 1.0 Sebastian Janikowski $ 1 0.0 6.0 0.0 Cincinnati Bengals $ 2 13.0 6.0 13.0 San Diego Chargers $ 2 11.0 4.0 0.0 ---------------------------------------------TOTAL 161.4 149.3 124.9 CUTOFF 0.0 123.7 125.3

OUCH

 

[ImTheScientist]

3073. - 152.7

Made the cut

people who didn't

 

[jdoggydogg]

All the people who took Gore are gonna be cut in week 3 when he gets stuffed by the Eagles.

Bump.Gore owner here. I'm still in w/159.4. Anyone else?

Gore owner in tha hizzy. Logged 158 points this week.

 

[diesel7982]

Stupid question -- the obvious strategy here to me, based on the format, seemed to be to load up most of your cash at WR. The reason? As I understand it, your top 3 WRs get scored each week. That is more than at any other position. Accordingly, to maximize your "hit ratio" and ensure that most of your dollars have a chance to contribute each week, wouldn't it make the most sense to invest the most at the WR position (particularly since the scoring is PPR, which makes WRs essentially equivalent to RBs)?

Obviously value is going to take it at the end, but if you can maximize your dollar value at the WR spot, I think you end up with the most consistent lineup weekly. And in this survivor format, the most important thing is consistency.

Just my thought. Not sure if this was discussed in here previously, but I also see a lot of teams that have high-dollar QBs and RBs, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me (despite the fact that some of these teams are putting up huge point totals).

While I don't like my depth at RB, your strategy above seemed sound to me when I was fine-tuning my lineup. With so many starters at that position, it made sense to have a lot of good WR. Of course, EBF said that WR are overrated in this format, so

And EBF is right. There isnt enough difference in top WRs vs mediocre WRs isnt enough to justify their prices. In addition, with 7 WRs to choose 3 from, the variability of WR performance is somewhat diluted.

 

[Disco Stu]

All the people who took Gore are gonna be cut in week 3 when he gets stuffed by the Eagles.

Bump.Gore owner here. I'm still in w/159.4. Anyone else?

There are at least 4540 Gore owners still alive.

 

[aardball44]

1 HOUSHMANDZADEH,T.J. 9 94 2 0 0 30.40 30.42 JOHNSON,KEYSHAWN 7 97 1 4 1 29.10 29.110 EDWARDS,BRAYLON 5 116 1 0 0 22.60 22.6

72 from my WRs

T.J. Houshmandzadeh ... 30.4 Keyshawn Johnson ... 29.1 Javon Walker ... 28.0

:87.5:

 

[pantagrapher]

All the people who took Gore are gonna be cut in week 3 when he gets stuffed by the Eagles.

Bump.Gore owner here. I'm still in w/159.4. Anyone else?

There are at least 4540 Gore owners still alive.

Guess that means butcher boy got .

 

[pantagrapher]

1 HOUSHMANDZADEH,T.J. 9 94 2 0 0 30.40 30.42 JOHNSON,KEYSHAWN 7 97 1 4 1 29.10 29.110 EDWARDS,BRAYLON 5 116 1 0 0 22.60 22.6

72 from my WRs

T.J. Houshmandzadeh ... 30.4 Keyshawn Johnson ... 29.1 Javon Walker ... 28.0

:87.5:

Nice. 78.7 here:

Javon Walker 28.0 Roy Williams 26.8 Chris Henry 23.9

 

[slimflop]

LT, Gore, T Glenn, P Rivers, SD still here.

 

[videoguy505]

Stupid question -- the obvious strategy here to me, based on the format, seemed to be to load up most of your cash at WR. The reason? As I understand it, your top 3 WRs get scored each week. That is more than at any other position. Accordingly, to maximize your "hit ratio" and ensure that most of your dollars have a chance to contribute each week, wouldn't it make the most sense to invest the most at the WR position (particularly since the scoring is PPR, which makes WRs essentially equivalent to RBs)?

Obviously value is going to take it at the end, but if you can maximize your dollar value at the WR spot, I think you end up with the most consistent lineup weekly. And in this survivor format, the most important thing is consistency.

Just my thought. Not sure if this was discussed in here previously, but I also see a lot of teams that have high-dollar QBs and RBs, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me (despite the fact that some of these teams are putting up huge point totals).

While I don't like my depth at RB, your strategy above seemed sound to me when I was fine-tuning my lineup. With so many starters at that position, it made sense to have a lot of good WR. Of course, EBF said that WR are overrated in this format, so

And EBF is right. There isnt enough difference in top WRs vs mediocre WRs isnt enough to justify their prices. In addition, with 7 WRs to choose 3 from, the variability of WR performance is somewhat diluted.

I don't disagree about the stud WRs--Harrison, CJ, TO. But the mid-range WRs, who are #1s and high #2s on their own teams, seem to give a good mix. 4 WRs in the top 40 on your squad would seem to usually combine to keep you in the mix. A lot of teams I'm seeing have 2 top 40 guys and a bunch of $1 WRs after that, loading up on RBs and QBs instead.

 

[Wheelhouse]

A big score of 175.1 for week 3. Gotta love it when your kicker outscores your RB2.

I'm worried about week 4

WK 3

---------------------------------------------

Carson Palmer 24.1

Jake Plummer 21.7

Jake Delhomme 18.8

Willie Parker 27.6

Frank Gore 13.4

Reggie Bush 11.2

Travis Henry 9.0

Vernand Morency 0.3

Roy Williams 26.8

Torry Holt 26.0

Braylon Edwards 22.6

Greg Jennings 19.1

Troy Williamson 7.9

Antonio Bryant 7.6

Terry Glenn 0.0

Ben Watson 12.6

Tony Scheffler 0.0

John Kasay 14.0

Neil Rackers 2.0

Miami Dolphins 8.0

Carolina Panthers 3.0

---------------------------------------------

TOTAL 175.1

CUTOFF 125.3

 

[diesel7982]

Stupid question -- the obvious strategy here to me, based on the format, seemed to be to load up most of your cash at WR. The reason? As I understand it, your top 3 WRs get scored each week. That is more than at any other position. Accordingly, to maximize your "hit ratio" and ensure that most of your dollars have a chance to contribute each week, wouldn't it make the most sense to invest the most at the WR position (particularly since the scoring is PPR, which makes WRs essentially equivalent to RBs)?

Obviously value is going to take it at the end, but if you can maximize your dollar value at the WR spot, I think you end up with the most consistent lineup weekly. And in this survivor format, the most important thing is consistency.

Just my thought. Not sure if this was discussed in here previously, but I also see a lot of teams that have high-dollar QBs and RBs, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me (despite the fact that some of these teams are putting up huge point totals).

While I don't like my depth at RB, your strategy above seemed sound to me when I was fine-tuning my lineup. With so many starters at that position, it made sense to have a lot of good WR. Of course, EBF said that WR are overrated in this format, so

And EBF is right. There isnt enough difference in top WRs vs mediocre WRs isnt enough to justify their prices. In addition, with 7 WRs to choose 3 from, the variability of WR performance is somewhat diluted.

I don't disagree about the stud WRs--Harrison, CJ, TO. But the mid-range WRs, who are #1s and high #2s on their own teams, seem to give a good mix. 4 WRs in the top 40 on your squad would seem to usually combine to keep you in the mix. A lot of teams I'm seeing have 2-3 top 40 guys and a bunch of $1 WRs after that, loading up on RBs and QBs instead.

Gotcha. I agree, we've just got different definitions for top and mediocre. I went:

Evans, Williamson, M Jones, Bruce, Glenn, Bryant, Reg Brown

 

[Darth Cheney]

I'm alive with 139 points. How many of the LT/LJ + Gore combos are on the outside looking in this week? Hate to say I told you so but ... *cough cough*

I own LT2 and scored 137.3 this week.Why do you guys think the LT/LJ owners would drop like flys this week. We all obviously have other RBs. Everyone is going to have bye weeks, so wouldn't you want them early? If not, please tell me why.

I own LT and got 175.

 

[Otis]

Stupid question -- the obvious strategy here to me, based on the format, seemed to be to load up most of your cash at WR. The reason? As I understand it, your top 3 WRs get scored each week. That is more than at any other position. Accordingly, to maximize your "hit ratio" and ensure that most of your dollars have a chance to contribute each week, wouldn't it make the most sense to invest the most at the WR position (particularly since the scoring is PPR, which makes WRs essentially equivalent to RBs)?

Obviously value is going to take it at the end, but if you can maximize your dollar value at the WR spot, I think you end up with the most consistent lineup weekly. And in this survivor format, the most important thing is consistency.

Just my thought. Not sure if this was discussed in here previously, but I also see a lot of teams that have high-dollar QBs and RBs, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me (despite the fact that some of these teams are putting up huge point totals).

While I don't like my depth at RB, your strategy above seemed sound to me when I was fine-tuning my lineup. With so many starters at that position, it made sense to have a lot of good WR. Of course, EBF said that WR are overrated in this format, so

And EBF is right. There isnt enough difference in top WRs vs mediocre WRs isnt enough to justify their prices. In addition, with 7 WRs to choose 3 from, the variability of WR performance is somewhat diluted.

I don't disagree about the stud WRs--Harrison, CJ, TO. But the mid-range WRs, who are #1s and high #2s on their own teams, seem to give a good mix. 4 WRs in the top 40 on your squad would seem to usually combine to keep you in the mix. A lot of teams I'm seeing have 2-3 top 40 guys and a bunch of $1 WRs after that, loading up on RBs and QBs instead.

Here's how I spent my WR money:
PRICE WK 1 WK 2 WK 3 ---------------------------------------------Keyshawn Johnson $11 8.0 15.6 29.1 Anquan Boldin $43 16.2 12.2 22.9 Braylon Edwards $ 2 4.3 15.0 22.6 Doug Gabriel $ 1 0.0 0.0 18.5 Marvin Harrison $43 20.3 19.7 15.4 Troy Williamson $ 4 11.7 16.2 7.9 Joe Horn $16 4.5 13.8 7.7The only one I am really second-guessing at this point is the $16 on Joe Horn -- guy is just looking fairly old thus far. Otherwise I think out of this group I can expect some consistent production.I still believe the team who takes this will have spent the majority of its dollars on WRs, but only time will tell.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

I finished #50 this week but think I will be out in week 5.

QB are

Palmer- byy in week 5

Warner- benched in week 5

Simms - out for week 5

 

[Cowboys#1]

i spent most of my money on wr's (i have very similar WR's to otis)

had gore this week but he was my #4.. betts and fwp counted for me..

166 this week.

 

[Shrek]

Wow, I thought I was a goner this week. Hopefully Trent Green comes back by week 6, and with the news of Leinart starting, that helps. Took a gamble that Tatum would be the starter by mid-season and I think that's going to happen as well. Just waiting for Bush to break out.

PRICE WK 1 WK 2 WK 3 ---------------------------------------------Peyton Manning $29 16.8 32.2 20.9 Trent Green $15 5.6 0.0 0.0 Matt Leinart $ 5 0.0 0.0 0.0 Tatum Bell $22 10.3 9.6 16.2 Frank Gore $10 35.0 21.7 13.4 Reggie Bush $22 19.9 15.3 11.2 Rudi Johnson $42 17.3 28.8 7.7 Brandon Jacobs $ 2 11.4 3.5 2.8 Torry Holt $46 15.0 14.0 26.0 Lee Evans $14 4.5 3.9 18.7 Doug Gabriel $ 1 0.0 0.0 18.5 Cedrick Wilson $ 5 0.0 2.2 11.7 Troy Williamson $ 4 11.7 16.2 7.9 Michael Clayton $ 9 6.4 11.2 2.4 Terry Glenn $13 12.1 21.4 0.0 Desmond Clark $ 3 12.7 19.5 5.1 Courtney Anderson $ 1 1.9 4.6 0.0 Phil Dawson $ 1 2.0 5.0 2.0 Nate Kaeding $ 2 9.0 16.0 0.0 Cincinnati Bengals $ 2 13.0 6.0 13.0 Minnesota Vikings $ 2 0.0 4.0 11.0 ---------------------------------------------TOTAL 145.2 175.8 133.8 CUTOFF 0.0 123.7 125.3

 

[Harry Beanbag]

That's all I can say. LT2 on a bye. Gore, C. Taylor and Kitna could not carry the mail to make up for my injured and resting WRs. (Terry Glenn = bye, Matt Jones = inj., Keenan McCardell = bye, Brandon Stokley = inj., Joe Jurevicius = inj.)

Total week 3 = 102.6

 

[houndirish]

I did a lousy job of reading the rules and was going on the mindset that every guy starts each week. As such I loaded up at QB, got a stud RB and after Reggie Wayne went cheap at WR. However so far, my cheap reserves (Toomer, Drew, have come through for me). 172 with LT2 on the pine! I'll be amazed if I keep this up but so far so good!!!!!

PRICE WK 1 WK 2 WK 3

---------------------------------------------

Donovan McNabb $22 27.4 28.6 22.9

Peyton Manning $29 16.8 32.2 20.9

Brian Griese $ 6 0.0 0.1 0.0

Willie Parker $32 15.8 5.6 27.6

Maurice Jones-Drew $ 2 0.8 3.0 23.5

Brandon Jacobs $ 2 11.4 3.5 2.8

LaDainian Tomlinson $71 23.9 31.2 0.0

Jerious Norwood $ 2 6.6 6.7 0.0

Chris Henry $ 2 0.5 16.3 23.9

Doug Gabriel $ 1 0.0 0.0 18.5

Mark Clayton $ 6 3.0 4.0 14.8

Nate Burleson $ 6 4.6 1.7 14.2

Reggie Wayne $35 10.7 19.5 12.2

Amani Toomer $ 5 9.1 37.7 11.9

Michael Clayton $ 9 6.4 11.2 2.4

Eric Johnson $ 1 1.2 0.0 21.7

Ben Watson $ 9 8.0 6.9 12.6

Jeff Reed $ 2 4.0 0.0 8.0

Jay Feely $ 2 3.0 6.0 6.0

New York Giants $ 3 3.0 3.0 12.0

Miami Dolphins $ 3 5.0 2.0 8.0

---------------------------------------------

TOTAL 110.3 159.5 172.9

CUTOFF 0.0 123.7 125.3

 

[Robbie Cooper]

I'm out. Crumpler dropping that easy TD last night cost me $25K.

---------------------------------------------

Stephen Gostkowski $ 1 5.0 6.0 1.0

Sebastian Janikowski $ 1 0.0 6.0 0.0

Cincinnati Bengals $ 2 13.0 6.0 13.0

San Diego Chargers $ 2 11.0 4.0 0.0

---------------------------------------------

TOTAL 161.4 149.3 124.9

CUTOFF 0.0 123.7 125.3

Actually, it looks like if you'd have had any kicker who's last name didn't end in ...ski then you might have gotten that one extra point you needed to advance.

 

[Bobcat10]

Now let's see how my Leinart pick works out .

 

[QuizGuy66]

All the talk of putting lots of $ in the receivers got me to look back on my strategy.

I went the cheap WR route, going with guys that I thought would get good opportunities. Either #2 guys on really good offenses or guys who were very likely to start. Given that Gabriel came alive last week, Holmes looks like the only whiff.

T.J. Houshmandzadeh $23 0.0 0.0 30.4

Keyshawn Johnson $11 8.0 15.6 29.1

Greg Jennings $ 2 1.5 18.7 19.1

Doug Gabriel $ 1 0.0 0.0 18.5

Travis Taylor $ 2 3.4 9.5 14.2

Santonio Holmes $ 2 1.6 2.5 6.0

Keenan McCardell $10 2.8 11.6 0.0

For RBs, I liked Bush and LT2 best for the pass catching, Norwood for the potential to eventually get Duckett like numbers and Rudi for his sheep workhorse effort. Duckett was a gamble that Portis wasn't all right and is a mega-whiff obviously.

Reggie Bush $22 19.9 15.3 11.2

Rudi Johnson $42 17.3 28.8 7.7

LaDainian Tomlinson $71 23.9 31.2 0.0

Jerious Norwood $ 2 6.6 6.7 0.0

T.J. Duckett $ 2 0.0 2.4 0.0

For QBs, I took guys that I would consider solid sleepers in a regular draft. I was a little more frightened of this crew early, but I think it'll work out. Kitna has the soft schedule. With Delhomme getting his WR back the only thing I'm sweating is the return of T Green.

Jon Kitna $12 11.4 17.6 25.9

Jake Delhomme $15 8.3 9.1 18.8

Trent Green $15 5.6 0.0 0.0

TEs was the Watson/Scheffler combo everyone seems to have.

Ks I went for the best $2 kickers - Happily that's Stover and Feely

DEFs I was the happy homer here as I knew the Bengals ball-hawk tendencies (and the lack of a penalty for points allowed) made them a big time bargain. Minny playing in a division full of questionable O-lines made them a good 2nd choice IMO.

I got through the LT2 bye, so so-far, so-good.

-QG

 

[ryoly]

Had my doubts I would survive this week, 'cuffing Turner to LT gave me litlle hopes of getting enough pts. from the RB position on week 3...luckily, lived to fight another week...

PRICE WK 1 WK 2 WK 3

---------------------------------------------

Carson Palmer $22 6.2 23.7 24.1

Jake Delhomme $15 8.3 9.1 18.8

Chris Simms $10 4.0 13.0 16.1

Frank Gore $10 35.0 21.7 13.4

Brandon Jacobs $ 2 11.4 3.5 2.8

LaDainian Tomlinson $71 23.9 31.2 0.0

Michael Turner $ 5 9.7 17.5 0.0

Jerious Norwood $ 2 6.6 6.7 0.0

Lee Evans $14 4.5 3.9 18.7

Marvin Harrison $43 20.3 19.7 15.4

Nate Burleson $ 6 4.6 1.7 14.2

Troy Williamson $ 4 11.7 16.2 7.9

Antonio Bryant $ 9 15.4 23.1 7.6

Marty Booker $ 2 9.4 6.3 7.4

Terry Glenn $13 12.1 21.4 0.0

Ben Watson $ 9 8.0 6.9 12.6

Tony Scheffler $ 1 1.9 0.0 0.0

John Kasay $ 2 6.0 7.0 14.0

Sebastian Janikowski $ 1 0.0 6.0 0.0

New York Giants $ 3 3.0 3.0 12.0

Baltimore Ravens $ 6 15.0 20.0 11.0

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TOTAL 144.0 174.7 127.2

CUTOFF 0.0 123.7 125.3

 

[Bobcat10]

I don't see the need to load up on multiple big $$ WRs. You have 7, only use 3, so you need steady production, which means mid-tier guys. I still would stick with most of my choices there (Wayne 35, TJ 23, Evans 14, Glenn 13, Clayton 9, Williamson 4, Edwards 2) while trying to find the right combo of RBs/QBs. If I could change now, I'm sure I'd spend that 9 on Clayton better, but that's another "if" story. Having the right combo of RBs is huge when one is on a bye, you need filler points. And it gives you better choices each week to get a solid 2.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I finished #50 this week but think I will be out in week 5.QB are Palmer- byy in week 5Warner- benched in week 5Simms - out for week 5

that sucks

 

[Wingnut]

I finished #50 this week but think I will be out in week 5.QB are Palmer- byy in week 5Warner- benched in week 5Simms - out for week 5

You made it farther than I did - I didnt make the week 2 cut, and wouldnt have made the week 1 cut if there was one.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

PRICE WK 1 WK 2 WK 3

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Jake Plummer $16 3.9 7.5 21.7

Brad Johnson $10 15.1 11.6 9.7

Trent Green $15 5.6 0.0 0.0

Willie Parker $32 15.8 5.6 27.6

Steven Jackson $54 18.0 14.4 15.1

Laurence Maroney $11 8.6 12.5 12.9

Reggie Bush $22 19.9 15.3 11.2

T.J. Duckett $ 2 0.0 2.4 0.0

T.J. Houshmandzadeh $23 0.0 0.0 30.4

Mark Clayton $ 6 3.0 4.0 14.8

Nate Burleson $ 6 4.6 1.7 14.2

Amani Toomer $ 5 9.1 37.7 11.9

Troy Williamson $ 4 11.7 16.2 7.9

Terry Glenn $13 12.1 21.4 0.0

Jerry Porter $ 7 0.0 0.0 0.0

Ben Watson $ 9 8.0 6.9 12.6

Jeb Putzier $ 4 3.6 2.0 2.2

David Akers $ 2 6.0 6.0 8.0

Jason Elam $ 3 4.0 9.0 5.0

Miami Dolphins $ 3 5.0 2.0 8.0

New England Patriots $ 3 5.0 6.0 0.0

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TOTAL 104.9 138.5 152.4

CUTOFF 0.0 123.7 125.3

Jake and Willie stepped up, and Housh decided to play = big week! Also had three new WRs with the top scores. I'll take that as a good sign. If the same guys are the high scorers each week, eventually that can haunt me, especially during byes. Spreading around the wealth = good!

 

[my man otis]

I'm alive with 139 points. How many of the LT/LJ + Gore combos are on the outside looking in this week? Hate to say I told you so but ... *cough cough*

With LT and Gore and scored 155.7I probably won't last past McNabb's bye b/c of Simms though.

PRICE   WK 1  WK 2  WK 3 ---------------------------------------------Donovan McNabb	   $22	27.4  28.6  22.9 Chris Simms		  $10	 4.0  13.0  16.1 Jamie Martin		 $ 2	 0.0   0.0   0.0 Willie Parker		$32	15.8   5.6  27.6 Frank Gore		   $10	35.0  21.7  13.4 Kevan Barlow		 $ 6	 9.5   5.6   9.1 LaDainian Tomlinson  $71	23.9  31.2   0.0 Derrick Blaylock	 $ 1	 6.6   5.6   0.0 T.J. Houshmandzadeh  $23	 0.0   0.0  30.4 Braylon Edwards	  $ 2	 4.3  15.0  22.6 Reggie Wayne		 $35	10.7  19.5  12.2 Devery Henderson	 $ 1	 7.4  14.1  10.6 Troy Williamson	  $ 4	11.7  16.2   7.9 Terry Glenn		  $13	12.1  21.4   0.0 Ronald Curry		 $ 1	 3.1   5.1   0.0 Ben Watson		   $ 9	 8.0   6.9  12.6 Tony Scheffler	   $ 1	 1.9   0.0   0.0 Josh Brown		   $ 2	 9.0   3.0   6.0 Matt Bryant		  $ 1	 0.0   3.0   6.0 Miami Dolphins	   $ 3	 5.0   2.0   8.0 Detroit Lions		$ 1	 7.0   2.0   4.0 ---------------------------------------------TOTAL					  144.8 150.5 155.7 CUTOFF					   0.0 123.7 125.3

 

[EBF]

Folks, you do not want to spend heavily on top WRs in a best ball league. It flat out doesn't pay. My team has cruised through the first three weeks of this thing with the following WR corps:

Muhsin Muhammad - $15

Lee Evans - $14

Keenan McCardell - $10

Antonio Bryant - $9

Isaac Bruce - $6

Troy Williamson - $4

Chris Henry - $2

That's a dirt cheap crew right there. I didn't pay for a single top 20 WR and I'm getting nasty production from this group each week. Here's the key point: in a given week, there are literally dozens of WRs with the potential to go for 100+ yards and a score. Why pay a premium at a position with so many viable options? In a best ball league, having productive depth is more important than having a few stud players. The only exception is possibly TE, where there are only a handful of guys with legitimate 100+ yard potential.

The value of a stud player increases in leagues that require you to name your starters because, in those leagues, you need to consider the probability that the player will have a "good" week. Let's pretend that Chad Johnson has a 70% chance of having a "good" game in a given week. Let's also pretend that Troy Williamson and Chris Henry each have a 40% chance of having a "good" game in a given week.

In a name-your-starters league, a Henry/Williamson tandem is far less valuable than a CJ. Why? Because you have to pick one starter, thus giving your Henry/Williamson combo a 40% chance of a good game regardless of which player you pick. Meanwhile the CJ owner is getting a solid advantage with his 70% chance of a good game. The CJ owner will have a %30 advantage over the Henry/Williamson owner for one of his WR slots.

It's a different story in a best ball league. The Henry/Williamson owner will actually have the advantage because his two %40 chances at a good game give him an 80% chance at a good game, whereas the CJ owner still has only a %70 chance.

This is an over-simplification, but I hope you're starting to see my point. In a best-ball league, a deep crew of mediocre options can actually outproduce a shallow crew of a few stud players and a bunch of scrubs.

While preparing for the Staff vs. MB competition, I did an analysis on auction price and WR production in terms of "auction dollars" per "good game" (which I defined as a game of at least 10 fantasy points). My conclusion was that WRs in the 25-35 range (the 25th-35th most expensive) offered the best value per dollar. As such, I have tried to build my best ball teams with a deep crew of mid-range WRs (guys like Bryant, Bruce, McCardell, D. Bennett, Muhammad, and Evans). The results have been good so far. My team is cruising in this contest and my Staff vs. Message Board team is in the top 3.

 

[DeCleater]

I'm alive with 139 points. How many of the LT/LJ + Gore combos are on the outside looking in this week? Hate to say I told you so but ... *cough cough*

LJ + Gore owner still in. 145 + this week

 

[Couch Potato]

It's a different story in a best ball league. The Henry/Williamson owner will actually have the advantage because his two %40 chances at a good game give him an 80% chance at a good game, whereas the CJ owner still has only a %70 chance.

That's faulty math. The additive principle doesn't apply here. If it did, you could take two 50% WRs and add them up to 100%, guaranteeing a good game. Of course, common sense tells us that wouldn't be the case.40% x 40% = 16% that both will have good games.60% x 60% = 36% that neither will have good games.That leaves 100% - 16% - 36% = 48% that one or the other will have a good game.Adding the 16% (both) + 48% (either one) = 64% that one or both will have good games.Of course, if they come at a fraction of the cost of the 70% WR, they are still better values since the remaining $$$ can be spent elsewhere, so I'm not arguing the validity of using lower priced WRs, only the math in your example.

 

[ravnzfan]

All the people who took Gore are gonna be cut in week 3 when he gets stuffed by the Eagles.

Bump.Gore owner here. I'm still in w/159.4. Anyone else?

Gore, w/Tki and Rudi @RB....big weeks from TJ Houschamazillie, Roy Williams and BEdwards score 155.6 for the ravnzfan!

 

[TheFanatic]

All the people who took Gore are gonna be cut in week 3 when he gets stuffed by the Eagles.

Bump.Gore owner here. I'm still in w/159.4. Anyone else?

Gore, w/Tki and Rudi @RB....big weeks from TJ Houschamazillie, Roy Williams and BEdwards score 155.6 for the ravnzfan!

Gore owner here as well. KJ had a great game and Edge did pretty well. Walker, Edwards and Mason rocked the hizzouse for me. 169 or so with Gore on the bench....

 

[ravnzfan]

Folks, you do not want to spend heavily on top WRs in a best ball league. It flat out doesn't pay. My team has cruised through the first three weeks of this thing with the following WR corps:

Muhsin Muhammad - $15

Lee Evans - $14

Keenan McCardell - $10

Antonio Bryant - $9

Isaac Bruce - $6

Troy Williamson - $4

Chris Henry - $2

$60...well spentI went $2/player more....total $73....and have totaled 169.6, from:

-- Roy Williams $27

-- TJ Housh $23

-- TGlenn $13

-- TWilliamson $4

-- TTaylor $2

-- MBooker $2

-- BEdwards $2

I want to score at least 1, if not 2 from the top 3, therefore reducing the risk from the cheapies to 1-in-4 for decent production

if 1 of the big 3 is on bye and 1 of the other 2 tank, I need to hit 50% on MinnWR1-2, Mia WR2, Clev WR1

I like those odds!

 

[Lock]

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J.P. Losman $ 6 8.2 9.2 26.8

Chris Simms $10 4.0 13.0 16.1

Byron Leftwich $12 21.5 12.4 14.8

Ahman Green $18 16.2 15.0 27.1

Frank Gore $10 35.0 21.7 13.4

Tiki Barber $61 22.1 17.8 11.8

Warrick Dunn $33 15.2 13.4 6.6

Maurice Morris $ 2 3.9 6.2 1.8

Braylon Edwards $ 2 4.3 15.0 22.6

Lee Evans $14 4.5 3.9 18.7

Nate Burleson $ 6 4.6 1.7 14.2

Joey Galloway $21 0.0 25.1 7.8

Terry Glenn $13 12.1 21.4 0.0

Matt Jones $14 11.5 13.3 0.0

Ronald Curry $ 1 3.1 5.1 0.0

Ben Watson $ 9 8.0 6.9 12.6

Vernon Davis $ 7 14.7 0.0 0.0

Josh Brown $ 2 9.0 3.0 6.0

Lawrence Tynes $ 2 4.0 6.0 0.0

New York Giants $ 3 3.0 3.0 12.0

Seattle Seahawks $ 4 5.0 9.0 9.0

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TOTAL 135.5 135.9 153.4

CUTOFF 0.0 123.7 125.3

I thought having lots of good guys was way more important than having a few great ones, all but 3 of my player have posted numbers already.

Ive taken a hit with simms and Davis out, really screwing up week 6 for me 1 QB, no TE along with 2 wr on bye

 

[nerangers]

Survived with 163.1

I don't think you could overlook good WRs in a PPR league.

T.J. Houshmandzadeh $23 0.0 0.0 30.4

Roy Williams $27 6.6 13.1 26.8

Braylon Edwards $ 2 4.3 15.0 22.6

Reggie Brown $13 10.0 9.3 15.6

Reggie Wayne $35 10.7 19.5 12.2

Troy Williamson $ 4 11.7 16.2 7.9

Michael Clayton $ 9 6.4 11.2 2.4

I think Reggie Brown would have been more value if Stallworth did not become an Eagle. I would like to see better out of Reggie Wayne for that price.

PPR is saving me at RB for sure!

Deuce McAllister $15 9.0 20.1 13.4

Reggie Bush $22 19.9 15.3 11.2

Warrick Dunn $33 15.2 13.4 6.6

Brandon Jacobs $ 2 11.4 3.5 2.8

Jerious Norwood $ 2 6.6 6.7 0.0

 

[stugnut]

This is the third year playing and this week I scored the highest I've ever scored, finishing with 187.5 and #36 overall

Too bad it wont last though, without Simms I'm toast as soon as Manning has a bad game or hits his bye. Oh well, I'm just happy to have finished a week in the top 50.

Peyton Manning 20.9

Chris Simms 16.1

Brian Griese 0.0

Willie Parker 27.6

Frank Gore 13.4

Reggie Bush 11.2

Jamal Lewis 8.6

Brandon Jacobs 2.8

T.J. Houshmandzadeh 30.4

Chris Henry 23.9

Braylon Edwards 22.6

Doug Gabriel 18.5

Steve Smith 18.2

Nate Burleson 14.2

Terry Glenn 0.0

Eric Johnson 21.7

Ben Watson 12.6

John Kasay 14.0

Stephen Gostkowski 1.0

Cincinnati Bengals 13.0

Denver Broncos 0.0

Did anyone else go with the Houshmandzadeh/C. Henry combo? I figured to get about 5 or 6 games with Henry going off and take whatever else I could get the rest of the time.