Super Bowl 49 discussion thread: Seahawks vs Patriots (Poll added) (1 Viewer)

[Old Smiley]

Looks to be a pretty in depth piece on NE's fourth quarter offensive thinking. Brady and McDaniel speak.

edit:Wow. Great read so far!

 

[MaxThreshold]

I watched last year's and will watch this year's Super Bowl parade at station 2 on the corner of 4th Ave and Battery St.

Hope You Enjoyed The ParadeDid You Bring A Folding Chair Or Do They Have Extra There?

LOVE how this guy disappeared after saying for 2 weeks how the Seahawks would win 38-10 and the Pats had no chance of scoring against Seattle's "vaunted" defense. Where you at ScottyDog?! Time to eat some crow!

Him and cowardly Imthescientist are huddled together somewhere constantly repeating "Back 2 back...back 2 back..." and furiously purchasing Seahawks championship gear from Western Africa.

 

[Bad_Mo]

I believe about 60 pages ago I told seattle fans to get their excuses lined up

lol dude you seem to care way too much about this if you immediately perceived that comment as a slight to your team.

Those Seattle guys are badass for playing through what they did.

I don't remember lane playing through a broken wrist --- did he just get listed because he's badass for breaking it?

I think NE players had a lot to do with some of those guys getting hurt.

They got out-physicaled.

Sherman is having open heart surgery...wait...tommy john surgery...oh...I mean....no surgery at all.

 

[12punch]

Looks to be a pretty in depth piece on NE's fourth quarter offensive thinking. Brady and McDaniel speak.

edit:Wow. Great read so far!

yeah, that was pretty cool

 

[MarcO]

Looks to be a pretty in depth piece on NE's fourth quarter offensive thinking. Brady and McDaniel speak.

edit:Wow. Great read so far!

good article. It's hard not to like Brady - consummate professional QB. I think we all knew what they were going to try to do to the Seahawks, I for one just thought they wouldn't be able to execute as well as they did on those two long drives. I'm not sure how many other QBs or offenses are capable of doing that. I thought going in that if Seattle held them to 24 they'd win. I watched the game again and I really thought it was a well played game from both teams, NE deserved the win but I don't think that diminishes how good of a team Seattle is. Obviously, a different outcome on a play here or there and it could have easily been Seattle win.

ETA:

was thinking I posted something earlier in this thread to the effect of how NE could beat them:

Here's my take. SEA has a streak of 55 games of having held the lead at some point in each game. That streak will end. IMO, people are underestimating just how peeved NE is over the cheating label and they will come out extra motivated and moving people off their spot. Think NOS in their first game after Hurricane Katrina.

Defensively, Pats sell out to stop the run. Keep guys in the box, keep Wilson in the pocket. I would guess the Pats play a lot of man to man on early downs and zone in longer passing situations. Take the approach that they will make Wilson have to throw a lot to beat them. Unlike the game from 2012, the Pats have real CBs that will make a huge difference this time around. Lynch doesn't go crazy. Still could get 100 yards rushing but it would have to be on 30-35 carries.

Offensively, Gronk will be mostly neutralized and NE won't care with him being double teamed. They have other options and will be happy to throw to the other guys (Edleman, LaFell, Amendola, Wright, Vereen). I would also guess the Pats will go to bulk size formations with an extra lineman and use Gronk as a blocker and thus have a 7 man wall for Blount to run behind. Key guys in SEA secondary are more hurt than they are leading on and could make a difference.

Pats get up 14-3 in the first quarter. Both teams add a FG in the second to make it 17-6 at the half. Both teams get a TD in the third to make it 24-13 going into the 4th. SEA gets a garbage time TD in the last 30 seconds to cut it to 24-20. Unlike GB, Pats recover an onside kick to win. If the Pats are ahead by more than a score in the second half and hold on to the football (PSI be damned), NE takes this one.

could happen, but if Lynch is running 30-35 times (which by the way I can't even remember the last time he had 30 carries) - the Seahawks are ahead the whole game and making hey on the ground. If they struggle running the ball from the start with Lynch it wouldn't surprise me to see them start going to the read option. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if they go to the read option from the start on the first couple of series - they've done that a couple games this year, I think just to see what the defense does and loosen things up.

double team Gronk? maybe, but I doubt it. I can't remember the last time they double teamed anyone. I think both Cam and Irvin match up pretty well with Gronk, If they go the way putting a guy on Gronk it would likely be one of those two. But more likely I think they just play their normal defense and let the guy responsible for the area Gronk is in take care of his assignment.

Edleman, Amendola, LaFell don't scare me, as I think Seattle tackles exceptionally well and will limit the short and underneath routes to 5-7 yards per catch. I don't think the NE running game gets going at all. Blount is just not the type of runner that typically hurts this defense. i wouldn't be surprised to see more formations with Vereen rather than Blount. So if NE can march down the field and score 3 touchdowns - by connecting on the short underneath routes and getting timely production in the running game when they need it - without making mistakes and add a field goal or 2 then more power to them, they'll have done exactly what it takes to beat the Seahawks DEF.

I think NE has to play the more perfect game to win (not counting turnovers) - if they do Congrats. Good luck - should be an awesome game!

 

[Sabertooth]

Anyone seen Imthescientist?

 

[Run It Up]

Anyone seen Imthescientist?

I'm not even kidding, was gonna link to the george washington memorial bridge - known suicide hot spot, and it redirects to the NFL shop.

 

[Old Smiley]

Edleman, Amendola, LaFell don't scare me, as I think Seattle tackles exceptionally well and will limit the short and underneath routes to 5-7 yards per catch. I don't think the NE running game gets going at all. Blount is just not the type of runner that typically hurts this defense. i wouldn't be surprised to see more formations with Vereen rather than Blount. So if NE can march down the field and score 3 touchdowns - by connecting on the short underneath routes and getting timely production in the running game when they need it - without making mistakes and add a field goal or 2 then more power to them, they'll have done exactly what it takes to beat the Seahawks DEF.

I think NE has to play the more perfect game to win (not counting turnovers) - if they do Congrats. Good luck - should be an awesome game!

When things were blackest, maybe after the second pick, maybe after the sack that started the first scoring drive -- I was asking myself if the league had passed by the Pats' "small ball" approach. It asks so much to go error free for 13 plays. Can't say enough about the many had-to-have-it plays by the many different guys.

And with Seattle answering in 35 yard chunks... What a rollercoaster that game was.

 

[12punch]

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/02/05/nfl-super-bowl-xlix-final-film-study-notes/

here's a cool game breakdown from mmqb

The Patriots came in willing to play the run with a six-man box. They prevented double-teams by putting both defensive tackles in the B gaps (aka the “three technique” spot). Their defensive line, plus inside linebackers Hightower and Jamie Collins (who rarely spied Wilson) showed a tremendous blend of patience and quickness. It helped that they knew Marshawn Lynch would be keeping the ball, because on read-options the Patriots consistently kept a defensive end out wide to force a handoff.

 

[12punch]

the legend grows..........

 

[devouredbychaos]

Still paging ScottyDog and ImTheScientist.. At least have the balls to come eat your crow. It's been a month already