Super Bowl 49 discussion thread: Seahawks vs Patriots (Poll added) (7 Viewers)

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Bunch of white guys haven't rattled Seattle this hard since Nirvana.... *

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[Old Smiley]

90% of that game was terrible. Itbjust wasn't all that interesting of a game. Last 5 minutes were awesome.

You do know the Super Bowl was on today. I'm not sure what game you watched.

One that was pretty boring and pretty poorly played for the most part.

Which game did you watch?

Pretty sure I watched a classic

 

[proninja]

Odds Russell Wilson is watching film by 6am tomorrow morning?

This is a gut punch. But I like the Seahawks' chances next year. Hard to win 'em all, but we're in a window and probably going to be fighting for these for the next few years.

 

[drummer]

Bunch of white guys haven't rattled Seattle this hard since Nirvana.... *

* paraphrased/stolen

That's.Kinda.Lame

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Bunch of white guys haven't rattled Seattle this hard since Nirvana.... *

* paraphrased/stolen

That's.Kinda.Lame

Kinda?

 

[Old Smiley]

Odds Russell Wilson is watching film by 6am tomorrow morning?

This is a gut punch. But I like the Seahawks' chances next year. Hard to win 'em all, but we're in a window and probably going to be fighting for these for the next few years.

You'll be around, for sure. I definitely think you're not going to have to worry about SF as much for the next while.

 

[Raider Nation]

Seattle is the early favorite to win it all next year at 5-1.

 

[drummer]

Odds Russell Wilson is watching film by 6am tomorrow morning?

This is a gut punch. But I like the Seahawks' chances next year. Hard to win 'em all, but we're in a window and probably going to be fighting for these for the next few years.

Odds of lot of other players who weren't playing today were watching film before it?

 

[Raider Nation]

Followed by the Raiders at 11-2.

 

[drummer]

Bunch of white guys haven't rattled Seattle this hard since Nirvana.... *

* paraphrased/stolen

That's.Kinda.Lame

Kinda?

Yeah, whatever happened to grunge? Did Cameron Crowe kill it?

 

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Oof. Tough loss for Seahawk fans. Been glued to every play for well over 30 years now. Odd, I've felt much worse after watching them lose other games. I guess I'm getting much more reflective and not reactive in my old age. I missed the final few moments of the game. Heard there was some poor sportsmanship and bad attitudes. I'm sure I'll see it at some point. Haven't watched the press conferences yet. Will get to that tomorrow.

My random thoughts...

* Happy for Brady. Mad respect for that guy. Won't be surprised to see him keep winning more. He's not the sort to pout after a loss. He's not the sort to gloat after a win. He's focused on the next game. Love that about him. I said it in other threads. I'll say it here. I think Brady is one of the all time greats, and the result of this single game wasn't going to change my opinion either way. Winning and losing at these levels is such a crap shoot sometimes. If you're basing your opinions of Brady based on their win today, you're just fickle. Brady didn't make the final play. If Lynch scores and Seattle wins do you think less of him because his team lost? I wouldn't.

* Super happy that Wilson is the QB in Seattle. I believe he'll be the leader of a team that wins a lot in his career. Hard to ever count him out of a game. I think most fans will point at the coaches when they start placing blame for that last play. I rarely begrudge them any play call. Its the players on the field that #### up, and WIlson ####ed up, but I'm still super happy he's out QB here in Seattle.

* Offseason will be interesting for Seattle. Guessing they bring back everyone except for Maxwell (including Lynch). Losing Maxwell is going to hurt. Maybe Simon or Lane develops? We'll see. The salary cap isn't going to be the issue that some think it will be. If you doubt me, check out Davis Hsu via twitter. Dude is all over the cap numbers in Seattle.

* Wasn't surprised to see Seattle let Kam and Wright man up on Gronk. its what they do. Its how they play. If you can beat it, kudos to you.

* Was surprised to see Willson go the entire game without a target.

* Wasn't surprised to see Blount get shut down.

* Was surprised to see that many missed tackles in the Seattle secondary.

Final thought: If you were paying attention, you noticed that depth in the secondary in the modern NFL goes WAY past your starting corners. If you don't have at least four CBs that can cover other teams will find the weak spots. It doesn't matter if you have a Revis or a Sherman. Teams will find a way to move the ball by targeting your weakest links.

And off to the offseason.... Time to start watching all those YouTube videos of the incoming class of rookies.

Sorry for long quote... Drunk and winding down and quotes are a ##### in mobile format...

!good post and cheers!

 

[gump]

West Alabama?

I have spent a lot of time in west Alabama....and I've never heard of West Alabama.

 

[Neofight]

Props to carroll for owning that call.

Personally i think it was a great call - use up all the clock them take your shot. if it's incomplete, you still have all your time left and a timeout for lynch to run. If you run it you only get three more plays and youre forced to go for three passes in a row because the clock is ticking. But if you pass on first you give yourself an extra shot.

I also think that was belichicks motive for letting the clock run. He wanted to bait them into the pass and it worked.

Just an incredible chess match to watch.

It was 2nd down and they had 1 TO, so not following you there.

if you run and don't make it you have to use your t.o. then you cant afford to run again until fourth down. if you pass and don't make it you can do either. that's why he threw it. You want flexibility on every play to put maximum pressure on the defense.

That formation was bunched so tight that there was a really ridiculously small window, by design. They should've gone read option because Russell would've had the option to chuck it out of bounds. Just a crazy call to dial up that formation. Brady would been checking to a QB sneak (unless Thatold Simon was in the slot).

Why couldn't Wilson have thrown it away in the play called? It was essentially a 1 read play. Once it was clear Butler wasn't getting picked and is jumping the route he should have just chucked it out of the end zone.

The call was a bunch formation quick hit. Think of how many things can go wrong there. It's designed to make a split second decision; but they really had a bit more time than that. Check to an option and just extend the play and throw it away if there's nothing there. Or hand it to the guy the eats up large chunks of grass routinely late in the game. The call was just bad; but so was Russell's read.

If it's me, I call a read option there and give Wilson an opp to throw the ball away if it's not there. Still, I don't think the call is terrible because the matchup favors them, normally. The thing is, pick plays are VERY successful against man coverage. They are designed to beat man cover as a matter of fact. There is no point picking zone D because they just pass the threat one to the next zone. NE was playing man coverage. You don't like the play call, fine. All this worst call in the world stuff is knee jerk hyperbole, though. Schematically, it wasn't a bad play call at all. They had skill advantage with 3 WR vs GL. They also had a play designed to beat man coverage and NE played man coverage. Butler just man an incredible play. It's a shame we've come to a point where good defense can't be appreciated. How would Lynch have had 3 shots? They only had 1 TO, correct? If he doesn't get it on that down they are pretty much locked into throwing the next few downs and maybe run again on 4th.

I think they get off three plays no problem. Do you really think they don't, with a TO remaining? To not give it to your best player is just criminal there. Having said that, I'd rather they put Turbin in for a play and run him than run that particular play. Too much room for error. The truth is that Lockette was actually open on that play, but he didn't beat the DB to the spot; or the pass was too far out in front; or Russell read it too late. The point being that the play had a way higher rate of failure than a run/read option. Hell, a naked QB bootleg is a better call at that point in time.

 

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Bunch of white guys haven't rattled Seattle this hard since Nirvana.... *

* paraphrased/stolen

That's.Kinda.Lame

Kinda?

GG

 

[Raider Nation]

Bunch of white guys haven't rattled Seattle this hard since Nirvana.... *

* paraphrased/stolen

That's.Kinda.Lame

Kinda?

GG

I thought Doc could have run a little harder. He missed some huge holes too.

 

[drummer]

Bunch of white guys haven't rattled Seattle this hard since Nirvana.... *

* paraphrased/stolen

That's.Kinda.Lame

Kinda?

GG

Allin?

 

[Old Smiley]

Odds Russell Wilson is watching film by 6am tomorrow morning?

This is a gut punch. But I like the Seahawks' chances next year. Hard to win 'em all, but we're in a window and probably going to be fighting for these for the next few years.

You'll be around, for sure. I definitely think you're not going to have to worry about SF as much for the next while.

I can see Dallas regressing. Arizona? I don't know, does Palmer just get hurt again? I think Green Bay's brains might have left with Philbin. Who else? Giants resurgence? maybe.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Followed by the Raiders at 11-2.

It's been mentioned multiple times in my FB timeline that Lynch is coming home this off-season.

 

[Raider Nation]

Followed by the Raiders at 11-2.

It's been mentioned multiple times in my FB timeline that Lynch is coming home this off-season.

There was a report this morning that Seattle intends to lock him up.

 

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Bunch of white guys haven't rattled Seattle this hard since Nirvana.... *

* paraphrased/stolen

That's.Kinda.Lame

Kinda?

GG

Allin?

Close to it on Seattle. They let me down. I'll have to reload. #nmprops

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Bunch of white guys haven't rattled Seattle this hard since Nirvana.... *

* paraphrased/stolen

That's.Kinda.Lame

Kinda?

GG

I thought Doc could have run a little harder. He missed some huge holes too.

I'm gonna let icon have his space tonight. Because that's the kinda guy I am.

 

[Dinkle Heimer]

A hearty congrats to Patriot fans from a Seahawk fan. Helluva game.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Odds Russell Wilson is watching film by 6am tomorrow morning?

This is a gut punch. But I like the Seahawks' chances next year. Hard to win 'em all, but we're in a window and probably going to be fighting for these for the next few years.

you really can't say enough about seattle ---- that's pats west over there

they played amazing

maybe another celts/lakers the next few years, but so much rides on injuries in the nfl

 

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I'm Wiped, but my "GG" was intended to be a sincere nod to DD as The guys blood runs Hawks.... Sorry if it came off any other way. Cheers

 

[Road Warriors]

I never been so pissed off in my whole life. Never. The Seahawks just grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory.

I feel your pain brother.Welcome to my world.

It sucks.

Maybe I'm biased, but aside from the last 30 seconds of the 2nd quarter and the entire 3rd quarter I thought the Pats were clearly the better team.

Clearly the better team? Seahawks outgained the Patriots 396 to 377.

One play better. Honestly, fantastic game and a great matchup.

 

[General Tso]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

bet he knows wtf he is now

 

[Raider Nation]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

Funny how you had nothing to say about it at the time. The only person who knew who Malcom Butler was before today was his mother.

 

[Raider Nation]

ITS?

 

[General Tso]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

Funny how you had nothing to say about it at the time. The only person who knew who Malcom Butler was before today was his mother.

Keep trolling dude. I admire your tenacity. Even after we win the Superbowl in an epic comeback you're still keeping up the good fight. How's that deflategate probe coming?

 

[SproutDaddy]

ITS?

Absolutely

 

[Raider Nation]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

Funny how you had nothing to say about it at the time. The only person who knew who Malcom Butler was before today was his mother.

Keep trolling dude. I admire your tenacity. Even after we win the Superbowl in an epic comeback you're still keeping up the good fight. How's that deflategate probe coming?

Do I know you?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

Funny how you had nothing to say about it at the time. The only person who knew who Malcom Butler was before today was his mother.

and pats fans, of course

it's funny how things can come full circle --- he was the buzz guy in pre

looked great --- was makin' plays all over

and he was basically our 6th corner at the time

 

[General Tso]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

Funny how you had nothing to say about it at the time. The only person who knew who Malcom Butler was before today was his mother.

Keep trolling dude. I admire your tenacity. Even after we win the Superbowl in an epic comeback you're still keeping up the good fight. How's that deflategate probe coming?

Do I know you?

You mad bro?

 

[Raider Nation]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

Funny how you had nothing to say about it at the time. The only person who knew who Malcom Butler was before today was his mother.

Keep trolling dude. I admire your tenacity. Even after we win the Superbowl in an epic comeback you're still keeping up the good fight. How's that deflategate probe coming?

Do I know you?

You mad bro?

Not particularly. Just wondering if maybe I hurt your feelings at some point, because I never noticed you before now.

 

[SofaCoach]

As a longtime Seahawk fan, I say "congrats" to the Pats, you played a great game.

I hated the playcall. A total WTF moment when they didn't hand off to Lynch. I understand the limited time on the clock and "only" one timeout would make it difficult to run Lynch 3 times once the clock had run down as it had. I still say run lynch, but if not that then give wilson a run/pass option where if he can't run it in and there's not a receiver wide open in the end zone he can throw it away. Then you do have time to run Lynch two more times.

And to Pete Carrol saying "they had their GL def in and we didn't like the matchup". WTF? You're 2nd and goal at the one, what def are you expecting?

Good game played by both teams. FOr those of you saying "sloppy", or not a well played game you have to give credit to two very good defenses.

See you next year.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

As a longtime Seahawk fan, I say "congrats" to the Pats, you played a great game.

I hated the playcall. A total WTF moment when they didn't hand off to Lynch. I understand the limited time on the clock and "only" one timeout would make it difficult to run Lynch 3 times once the clock had run down as it had. I still say run lynch, but if not that then give wilson a run/pass option where if he can't run it in and there's not a receiver wide open in the end zone he can throw it away. Then you do have time to run Lynch two more times.

And to Pete Carrol saying "they had their GL def in and we didn't like the matchup". WTF? You're 2nd and goal at the one, what def are you expecting?

Good game played by both teams. FOr those of you saying "sloppy", or not a well played game you have to give credit to two very good defenses.

See you next year.

if the pats are fortunate enough to make it back there we probably will

 

[General Tso]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

Funny how you had nothing to say about it at the time. The only person who knew who Malcom Butler was before today was his mother.

Keep trolling dude. I admire your tenacity. Even after we win the Superbowl in an epic comeback you're still keeping up the good fight. How's that deflategate probe coming?

Do I know you?

You mad bro?

Not particularly. Just wondering if maybe I hurt your feelings at some point, because I never noticed you before now.

LOL. I don give a rat's ### if your Royal Highness has noticed me or not. I've noticed you. Hard not to when you make 80,000 posts - most of which denigrating the Pats and their fans. Been listening to your #### for about 7 years now, and guess what? Tonight you don't get to spew your #### anymore. Just ####, tip your cap, and go to bed like a good little boy. Maybe you'll wake up and it will all have been a bad dream.MAN that felt good.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

ool

 

[proninja]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

Funny how you had nothing to say about it at the time. The only person who knew who Malcom Butler was before today was his mother.

Keep trolling dude. I admire your tenacity. Even after we win the Superbowl in an epic comeback you're still keeping up the good fight. How's that deflategate probe coming?

Do I know you?

You mad bro?

Not particularly. Just wondering if maybe I hurt your feelings at some point, because I never noticed you before now.

LOL. I don give a rat's ### if your Royal Highness has noticed me or not. I've noticed you. Hard not to when you make 80,000 posts - most of which denigrating the Pats and their fans. Been listening to your #### for about 7 years now, and guess what? Tonight you don't get to spew your #### anymore. Just ####, tip your cap, and go to bed like a good little boy. Maybe you'll wake up and it will all have been a bad dream.MAN that felt good.

People are going flat crazy tonight

 

[General Tso]

As a longtime Seahawk fan, I say "congrats" to the Pats, you played a great game.

I hated the playcall. A total WTF moment when they didn't hand off to Lynch. I understand the limited time on the clock and "only" one timeout would make it difficult to run Lynch 3 times once the clock had run down as it had. I still say run lynch, but if not that then give wilson a run/pass option where if he can't run it in and there's not a receiver wide open in the end zone he can throw it away. Then you do have time to run Lynch two more times.

And to Pete Carrol saying "they had their GL def in and we didn't like the matchup". WTF? You're 2nd and goal at the one, what def are you expecting?

Good game played by both teams. FOr those of you saying "sloppy", or not a well played game you have to give credit to two very good defenses.

See you next year.

Thanks Sofa. Got nothing but huge respect for Seattle. Tough to lose a game like that, but you'll be back. Good luck to you.

 

[Raider Nation]

ool

I enjoy allowing my fans to have a good cry.

 

[Raider Nation]

Count Seahawks outside linebacker Bruce Irvin among those wondering why Seattle elected to pass instead of run with just one yard needed for the go-ahead, final-minute touchdown in Sunday’s Super Bowl loss to New England.After the Seahawks’ defeat, Irvin wondered why Seattle didn’t just hand off to tailback Marshawn Lynch.

“We had it. I don’t understand how you don’t give it to the best back in the league on not even the one-yard line,” Irvin said, according to an interview transcript furnished by the NFL. “We were on the half-yard line, and we throw a slant. I don’t know what the offense had going on, what they saw. I just don’t understand.”

Irvin also explained why he got involved in the altercation that led to his ejection in the final seconds.

“I was protecting a teammate. Emotions flew,” Irvin said. “I saw somebody hit [defensive end] Mike Bennett, so I went and backed up my brother. I went about it wrong. Emotions were flying high, and I apologize. But if it happened again, I would go protect my teammate. That’s just how it is.”

 

[General Tso]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

Funny how you had nothing to say about it at the time. The only person who knew who Malcom Butler was before today was his mother.

Keep trolling dude. I admire your tenacity. Even after we win the Superbowl in an epic comeback you're still keeping up the good fight. How's that deflategate probe coming?

Do I know you?

You mad bro?

Not particularly. Just wondering if maybe I hurt your feelings at some point, because I never noticed you before now.

LOL. I don give a rat's ### if your Royal Highness has noticed me or not. I've noticed you. Hard not to when you make 80,000 posts - most of which denigrating the Pats and their fans. Been listening to your #### for about 7 years now, and guess what? Tonight you don't get to spew your #### anymore. Just ####, tip your cap, and go to bed like a good little boy. Maybe you'll wake up and it will all have been a bad dream.MAN that felt good.

People are going flat crazy tonight

Yeah, that's been brewing since 2007. Kind of sorry it came out like that, but he kind of had it coming.

 

[RaiderBones]

I still can't believe that the Seahawks threw the ball at the 1 yard line with Beast Mode ready to run the ball in. What a horrible call.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Gotta love Malcolm Butler (WHO?!?!?!) running junk after a dropped pass.

RaiderNation's posts in this thread are the stuff of legend. Just one of many many jewels in here lol.

Funny how you had nothing to say about it at the time. The only person who knew who Malcom Butler was before today was his mother.

Keep trolling dude. I admire your tenacity. Even after we win the Superbowl in an epic comeback you're still keeping up the good fight. How's that deflategate probe coming?

Do I know you?

You mad bro?

Not particularly. Just wondering if maybe I hurt your feelings at some point, because I never noticed you before now.

LOL. I don give a rat's ### if your Royal Highness has noticed me or not. I've noticed you. Hard not to when you make 80,000 posts - most of which denigrating the Pats and their fans. Been listening to your #### for about 7 years now, and guess what? Tonight you don't get to spew your #### anymore. Just ####, tip your cap, and go to bed like a good little boy. Maybe you'll wake up and it will all have been a bad dream.MAN that felt good.

People are going flat crazy tonight

Yeah, that's been brewing since 2007. Kind of sorry it came out like that, but he kind of had it coming.

isn't being a raiders fan punishment enough?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

2007? Man I don't hold stuff in for 2007 seconds. Let it go, bro.

 

[proninja]

Yeah, that's been brewing since 2007. Kind of sorry it came out like that, but he kind of had it coming.

Nobody cares. It's the internet. Take a deep breath and be less serious.

 

[Raider Nation]

2007? Man I don't hold stuff in for 2007 seconds. Let it go, bro.

The guy has been hating on me for 7 years and I couldn't tell you a single thing he's ever posted.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Love the "he had it coming" bit.