Survivor Season 42: Starts Wednesday March 9, 2022 (2 Viewers)

[ConnSKINS26]

Turns out, with the tie, it didn't matter who (of Laurel or Angela) Dom picked to go to the final with him.

Not sure this is true. Angela voted for Wendell after Dom chose Laurel over her for the final three and made her make fire. 

If Angela is up sitting next to them after the 5-5 tie instead of Laurel, because Dom took her there, she may very well have given him the million. She didn't have the loyalty to Wendell that Laurel had and earlier that episode even ran to Dom and blew up the potential blindside brewing against him. I think she voted for Wendell because Dom didn't take her, and instead pit her against the buzzsaw that was Wendell making fire. 

She was a loose cannon but I think Dom had a much better chance of receiving her tie breaker vote than Laurels. Of course that's all with hindsight and only matters because it ended up being a tie. 

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Also its crazy to think that Laurel was the first player ever to know for SURE, in the moment, they were personally responsible for giving one person a million and taking it away from someone else. Its the most power/pressure ever put on one person's shoulders at the end of the game and she knew who she gave it to the entire time until the live show reveal.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Ultimately unhappy with that season.  It didn't help that the reunion show was a joke. 

 

[jhib]

Not sure this is true. Angela voted for Wendell after Dom chose Laurel over her for the final three and made her make fire. 

If Angela is up sitting next to them after the 5-5 tie instead of Laurel, because Dom took her there, she may very well have given him the million. She didn't have the loyalty to Wendell that Laurel had and earlier that episode even ran to Dom and blew up the potential blindside brewing against him. I think she voted for Wendell because Dom didn't take her, and instead pit her against the buzzsaw that was Wendell making fire. 

She was a loose cannon but I think Dom had a much better chance of receiving her tie breaker vote than Laurels. Of course that's all with hindsight and only matters because it ended up being a tie. 

I was thinking about that, too, and was surprised that they didn't ask Angela about it during the reunion show. I figure they must have talked to her about it before the reunion and she told them she would have gone Wendell anyway.  No sense doing the "what if" game if it shows that what was built up as a huge decision was actually meaningless. 

So instead, they show Dom struggling over whether or not to build fire himself. If he had actually done that and I were on the jury, I think he'd lose my vote just for doing something so stupid. 

 

[jhib]

I have no idea why Sebastian didn't play the extra vote.

I thought I heard him say that that TC (6) was the last time it could be used, but I guess I was wrong. Even so, seems using it when there are an even number of players, so it's potentially the tiebreaker, seems optimal. But I wouldn't accuse Sea Bass of being good at math. 

He did admit at final tribal that he didn't have any strategy all game. 

I for one was shocked.

 

[TLEF316]

I think that at the end of the day, once he got as far as he did, Dom would only be happy with the win. He's clearly a very competitive guy and he's probably doing well enough in life the difference between 100K and whatever 4th place gets (especially after taxes) probably wouldn't be life changing.

So then it comes down to whether he thinks he has a better chance to beat Wendell in the fire making challenge or in a final vote.  If he thinks both are 50/50, you obviously keep the final 4 immunity.  If its 60/40 fire and 40/60 final vote, it would have made sense to take the risk.  At the end of the day, he lost a tiebreaker. Could he have done something else to swing someone? Who really knows.

 

[mozzy84]

Ultimately unhappy with that season.  It didn't help that the reunion show was a joke. 

Agreed.  I didn’t get through the whole reunion show so I’m not sure if they talked about next season.  but I’m thinking maybe I need to skip a season or two unless they really change it up.  I probably won’t but they need to cast better or something.  

 

[stbugs]

They brought up tiebreaker procedures last reunion show. (Can't remember if they had already filmed this season by then, and were planting that seed) 

But players are briefed on all the processes before filming starts. When it goes to rocks, how you tie, final four fire challenge, etc. 

Wouldn’t surprise me if they were planting the seed. I don’t recall that but I barely ever watch the reunion show. Why bring up the tiebreaker rules then? As you said maybe planting a seed for the hardcore fans as a hint. It sure didn’t seem like any of the jury or final 3 had any clue until Jeff said it. 

 

[Cjw_55106]

Agreed.  I didn’t get through the whole reunion show so I’m not sure if they talked about next season.  but I’m thinking maybe I need to skip a season or two unless they really change it up.  I probably won’t but they need to cast better or something.  

David vs Goliath next season. 

“everybody knows that every David has a secret weapon and every Goliath certainly has their Achilles heel, and that’s what Survivor will bring out”. 

 

[identikit]

Getting harder and harder to watch with so many HI idols.

Takes away so much from the actual game play IMO.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Most of this season's cast was simply happy to be there. Only Dom, Wendell and Michael were there to play it seemed. 

Casting needs to do a a better job. 

 

[NewlyRetired]

Wouldn’t surprise me if they were planting the seed. I don’t recall that but I barely ever watch the reunion show. Why bring up the tiebreaker rules then? As you said maybe planting a seed for the hardcore fans as a hint. It sure didn’t seem like any of the jury or final 3 had any clue until Jeff said it. 

during the reunion show, I think Dom said as soon as Jeff read the last vote to show the tie, he knew he was done because of the Laurel vote.

 

[-jb-]

David vs Goliath next season. 

“everybody knows that every David has a secret weapon and every Goliath certainly has their Achilles heel, and that’s what Survivor will bring out”. 

Looks like the deusche nozzle factor has been set to 11 on this one. 

 

[Abraham]

I really enjoyed the season.  I thought the two best players made it to the end and I would have been pleased with either guy winning.  I thought some underdogs made it far (Angela and don) and I thought some potential strong players (chris and libby) made some tactical errors so it was satisfying when they left.  And the last two seasons have had nearly unanimous winners.  This did feel like it could go either way all the way to the end  

 

[Mile High]

Wouldn’t surprise me if they were planting the seed. I don’t recall that but I barely ever watch the reunion show. Why bring up the tiebreaker rules then? As you said maybe planting a seed for the hardcore fans as a hint. It sure didn’t seem like any of the jury or final 3 had any clue until Jeff said it. 

This was discussed during the Game Changers reunion show which was on May 24 2017.

After host Jeff Probst polled the jury to see how they would have voted had Brad Culpepper brought Tai Trang to the finals instead of Sarah, it was shown that it would have been a 5-5 tie between Brad and Tai. So then Probst did something very unexpected and revealed one of Survivor’s most closely guarded secrets: what would happen in the event of a jury tie at final Tribal Council.

“This is something we’ve never talked about,” Probst said to Brad, “but it’s a perfect time. Everybody asks, ‘What would you do in the case of a tie at final Tribal?’ We would have had one had you said, ‘You know what? I’m going to keep Tai and get rid of Sarah.’ We would have had a tie. It would have been 5-5. This is the rule. This is what would happen in a future season. The person who is not in the tie — so we have Brad with five and Tai with five — Troyzan, you go to the 

during the reunion show, I think Dom said as soon as Jeff read the last vote to show the tie, he knew he was done because of the Laurel vote.

This season started filming on June 5th 2017.  The tie beakers rule was first reveled on May 24 2017. I don't think this group knew before hand the tie breaking rules or Jeff that this season would be a tie.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Most of this season's cast was simply happy to be there. Only Dom, Wendell and Michael were there to play it seemed. 

Casting needs to do a a better job. 

Due to the referential nature of the season with all the old idols and such, they really needed players who understood and worshipped the history of the show. That to me seems like a decent recipe for a group of people who ARE just psyched to be there and worry more about messing it up and missing out than simply winning. You'd hope it would be the opposite, but clearly not with this group. 

They needed superfans in this cast but I'd hope the next one will be different. You should be familiar with the concept of the show and basic unwritten rules, etc. but seasons where people bring their own spin on things to the table have potential to shake things up--like that random season where all of a sudden "voting blocs" became a thing instead of long-term alliances and people weren't salty over flip flops, it was a much more individual season. 

Nothing wrong with casting superfans but I think an entire cast full of them and surrounded by Survivor history ironically led to some really conservative play, letting the actual strategists domimate until the end. 

Michael, Dom, and Wendell are the only ones I'd ever want to see on an All-Star season. 

 

[Mario Kart]

Imma f###ing Jeff tonight, y'all.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Imma f###ing Jeff tonight, y'all.

Cannot imagine how deep you'd have to fall down the Survivor youtube wormhole to land on that one

 

[NewlyRetired]

This season started filming on June 5th 2017.  The tie beakers rule was first reveled on May 24 2017. I don't think this group knew before hand the tie breaking rules or Jeff that this season would be a tie.

Jeff Probst: I can't remember when we established this rule, but it has been in place for years. In the early days, we had a final two and a jury of seven, so a tie wasn't an issue. But as we grew to a final three and a larger jury and with the possibility of evacuations or someone quitting, it became a bigger concern.

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my guess is every contestant is handed a probably large document containing every rule for the game as well as all the legal stuff.  Whether they read it all or just sign probably varies from contestant to contestant but Dom seems like one of those guys who would have read all the rules.

 

[Mario Kart]

Cannot imagine how deep you'd have to fall down the Survivor youtube wormhole to land on that one

Actually not far. See, I saw one video where they showed the "top 30 exits" and Dawson was one of them. Then, type in her name into the YouTube and BAM!, right there. No deep wormhole or nothing.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Jeff Probst: I can't remember when we established this rule, but it has been in place for years. In the early days, we had a final two and a jury of seven, so a tie wasn't an issue. But as we grew to a final three and a larger jury and with the possibility of evacuations or someone quitting, it became a bigger concern.

What has always annoyed me is that they never revealed, until last season's or two seasons' ago reunion, the glaring question of what would happen in case of a tie.  And Jeff was always cagey about it when asked as though it was some closely guarded secret.  In any event, final threes have bored me for years because the third person is always an add-on (often a goat, but not this season) who gets few or no votes.  I actually wanted Laurel to win. 

 

[Mario Kart]

What has always annoyed me is that they never revealed, until last season's or two seasons' ago reunion, the glaring question of what would happen in case of a tie.  And Jeff was always cagey about it when asked as though it was some closely guarded secret.  In any event, final threes have bored me for years because the third person is always an add-on (often a goat, but not this season) who gets few or no votes.  I actually wanted Laurel to win. 

Next time there is a tie... the person who received fewer/fewest votes wins. Game Changer!

 

[Aerial Assault]

Yeah. Good winner, interesting final tribal, terrible season, and the reunion show is unsalvageable. Just nuke it. 

I get that view, though I wouldn't go that far, exactly.  I enjoyed the season right around until Chelsea (whom I liked) and Desiree (whom I did not like) were voted out, because it became clear that no one was going to do anything to stop Wendell and Domenick from going to the end.  And that was ridiculous.  Even more annoying was the fact that the whole jury punished/ignored Laurel for "just being there" when most of them would have done exactly the same thing.  So, if you're just happy to be there, yeah, I guess, let those guys coast to the end and then make sure one of them wins.  Just a little weird.  Another problem was that the editing, perhaps unavoidably, made it clear that those two were almost certainly in the final three from about the second episode.  

 

[Aerial Assault]

Next time there is a tie... the person who received fewer/fewest votes wins. Game Changer!

Right, but can you think of any other way to do it?  It's actually the strongest argument there is (among about a dozen) for going to a final two and an odd-numbered jury.  Of course Woo had to screw that up for everyone in the Tony (ugh) season and now Burnett and Probst will never ever ever consider a final two again.  

 

[Mr.Pack]

Yeah Dom referenced himself being a poker player... that would have been on his mind for sure.

Except he was completely wrong on the "Snap Call" being a move of a bluff. I was shuked at that comment.

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

Have Sebastian and Laruel NEVER watched the show?? 

Followers NEVER win.. If either one ends up in the final 3 with Wendel and Dom I'd be shocked if they received more then 1 vote.

You have a chance to finally take out Dom you take it in a second... Hopefully this has all been a heck of an edit and Dom walks

Cochran??

 

[snogger]

Cochran??

I wouldn't consider him a "Follower"... He made the moves when needed, unlike Laurel..... From Wikipedia:

Over the course of the season, Cochran went on to win three individual immunity challenges, in Episodes Eight, 11, and 14. He was also the only contestant in the season to win more than one individual immunity challenge. He would make a major move to plot the blindside of potential threat Brenda Lowe at the Final Six. Lowe had been plotting to blindside Cochran at either the Final Five or Final Four. After a crucial win at the Final Four immunity challenge to secure his place in the finals, and with Sherri Biethman the easiest finals opponent, he would debate bringing Fox or his closest ally Meehan.[9] He decided on Meehan, realizing that Fox, despite floating through the game, had numerous good friends on the jury and was the bigger threat.[10] When it came down to the jury presentations, Cochran received nearly unanimous praise for the way he played the game strategically without letting emotions interfere, and for always sticking to his promises.[11]

 

[The Noid]

My suggestion to help shake up things: no tribes, individual immunity challenges only, they all go to tribal every time but at the start they pick rocks for who the "tribe" is that has to vote. 16 people in the game, they choose rocks, 8 people with the black rocks sit down and have a tribal council, then vote. 

 

[bryhamm]

My suggestion to help shake up things: no tribes, individual immunity challenges only, they all go to tribal every time but at the start they pick rocks for who the "tribe" is that has to vote. 16 people in the game, they choose rocks, 8 people with the black rocks sit down and have a tribal council, then vote. 

I suggested something like this years ago, but still have team challenges.  Draw rocks, compete as a "team", then the losing team goes to TC.  Adds in a whole layer about people possibly throwing challenges if an alley is on the other tribe and doesn't have the numbers.

 

[Ned]

Yeah Dom referenced himself being a poker player... that would have been on his mind for sure.

Except he was completely wrong on the "Snap Call" being a move of a bluff. I was shuked at that comment.

He was talking out the side of his mouth. 

I couldn't stand how he seemed to relish being in front of the camera and almost seemed coached to hype up the drama on stuff like the urn decision.

 

[Mile High]

I wouldn't consider him a "Follower"... He made the moves when needed, unlike Laurel..... From Wikipedia:

What about Natalie White?

 

[Da Guru]

Worst ending ever. Should have had to make fire. Not allow a guppy to make the final million dollar decision on their own.

My wife loves Survivor and as soon as Jeff said Laurel will cast the deciding vote she said the season was a failure. 2 years in a row it had a dicey ending.

Why some players let people like Dom and Wendell or Boston Rob control the game is puzzling.  This season both Dom and Wendell could have been taken out before the finals but they were so confident the weak players did not have the balls to do it they never had the play their idols until the end.  And they were right.

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

What bugs me about the way the season winded down, when Dom won the final immunity and he had a BIG choice/move to make, really, the urn was the big choice he had?  He should have been given the power of taking one vote away from the jury like it was done in at least one previous season, then he would have won.

As for the thoughts of why players like Dom / Wendell and Boston Rob dominated, it's ALL IN THE EDITTING.  I hated Boston Rob...

 

[rick6668]

Why some players let people like Dom and Wendell or Boston Rob control the game is puzzling.  This season both Dom and Wendell could have been taken out before the finals but they were so confident the weak players did not have the balls to do it they never had the play their idols until the end.  And they were right.

I give WAY more credit to Dom and Wendell than Boston Rob.  This was Dom and Wendell's first time playing and they managed to control the game pretty well.

Boston Rob was on his 4th trip with all new players except for Russell (His tribe lost on purpose to vote him out).  Man was that a joke season.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

I give WAY more credit to Dom and Wendell than Boston Rob.  This was Dom and Wendell's first time playing and they managed to control the game pretty well.

Boston Rob was on his 4th trip with all new players except for Russell (His tribe lost on purpose to vote him out).  Man was that a joke season.

Boston Rob was an overrated whiner.

 

[rustycolts]

God help me, I'm in withdrawal from Survivor, so I just started watching the new season of Survivor New Zealand. The host isn't as charming as Survivor Australia's. But some decent characters after one episode. And, strangely... two of the people in the cast know each other. Somehow that slipped through casting? They wound up on opposite tribes to start, but it'll be interesting to see what happens once we get to the swap/merge territory.

Also, because I'm a terrible person, I'm about to start up Amazing Race Canada soon. 

I hear you.  I just started season 3 of Survivor Australia.  Season 4 was pretty good so hopefully this will give me my Survivor fix.

 

[gocuse3]

God help me, I'm in withdrawal from Survivor, so I just started watching the new season of Survivor New Zealand. The host isn't as charming as Survivor Australia's. But some decent characters after one episode. And, strangely... two of the people in the cast know each other. Somehow that slipped through casting? They wound up on opposite tribes to start, but it'll be interesting to see what happens once we get to the swap/merge territory.

Also, because I'm a terrible person, I'm about to start up Amazing Race Canada soon. 

How do you find these to watch them?

 

[rustycolts]

How do you find these to watch them?

I use Terrarium tv.  I am too low tech to use torrent.

 

[rustycolts]

Final challenge in Australian Survivor 3 was epic best I have seen ever I believe.  A lot less sour grapes in the tribal's and final tribal.  As far as eye candy goes Flick also was right there at the top.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Survivor US two-time villain Russell Hantz was recruited as a "Champion" contestant.

I thought Hantz was on 3 times?  Or am I getting confused with his nephew...?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Survivor Australia just started a new season: Champions vs Contenders. The "Contenders" are average Joe's who applied for the show. The "Champions" tribe is recruited contestants, mostly from the sports world.

But not all.

Survivor US two-time villain Russell Hantz was recruited as a "Champion" contestant.

oh #*$% yes im in.  Australia survivors last season was one of the best ive seen.  I will be downloading this asap.

 

[nirad3]

As starved as I am for TV shows to watch, I just can't bring myself to watch these foreign Survivor shows.  Can't wait for new season to start here.  Praying for eye candy and a better season content-wise than last.

 

[JuniorGong]

No, you're right! I forgot one!

Russell’s first season was the best game play I’ve ever seen. He screwed up the end but up until then he on fire. Still should have won.

 

[rustycolts]

Survivor Australia just started a new season: Champions vs Contenders. The "Contenders" are average Joe's who applied for the show. The "Champions" tribe is recruited contestants, mostly from the sports world.

But not all.

Survivor US two-time villain Russell Hantz was recruited as a "Champion" contestant.

Russell is back and right back to his old tricks.  Love Australian survivor watched 3 and 4 and can honestly say like it better than the last few US ones.  Looks like season 5 is going to be great.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

  Russell.   

 

[rustycolts]

As starved as I am for TV shows to watch, I just can't bring myself to watch these foreign Survivor shows.  Can't wait for new season to start here.  Praying for eye candy and a better season content-wise than last.

You should really give Australian a shot.  Seems to me challenges are much harder.  I also like that they start with 24 players.  It takes a little while to get used to the accents.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

You should really give Australian a shot.  Seems to me challenges are much harder.  I also like that they start with 24 players.  It takes a little while to get used to the accents.

agreed.  Also, Australian survivor spends more time showing them talking and strategizing which is nice.  They can do this because there are more episodes.  I highly recommend checking it out. 

 

[rustycolts]

agreed.  Also, Australian survivor spends more time showing them talking and strategizing which is nice.  They can do this because there are more episodes.  I highly recommend checking it out. 

Yea I like that tribals are longer too.  Plus the aussie bikinis are smaller which is always a plus.

 

[jamny]

Where are you watching the Australia show?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Where are you watching the Australia show?

i download them.  But if you have a VPN that will route you through australia i think you can watch on their website.  Also im sure its on Kodi.