You are way higher on him than others and that's great. Most see him barely outside of top 10.
How high in a draft would you be willing to draft him?
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You are way higher on him than others and that's great. Most see him barely outside of top 10.
How high in a draft would you be willing to draft him?
jtd13
Footballguy
Or he's the deebo Samuels of TEs
I don't know where id rank Bowers for season long, but I like his chances to be one of the top TEs later in his rookie year. I'd take him if he's going as the 13 and just try to figure out starting TE early with a cheap vet.
zamboni
Footballguy
Can’t help not being excited about Bowers in dynasty, particularly as Adams gets older. I can see Bowers being the primary passing option as soon as 2025, but I’m tempering my expectations for this year with Adams still gobbling up targets in a conservative offense and with an uninspiring QB situation.
I think we as a fantasy community need to be a bit careful overvaluing rookie TEs after what LaPorta and, to a lesser extent, Kincaid did last year. Even as rookie TEs don’t automatically struggle like they used to, those two guys may be more the exception than the rule.
I think we as a fantasy community need to be a bit careful overvaluing rookie TEs after what LaPorta and, to a lesser extent, Kincaid did last year. Even as rookie TEs don’t automatically struggle like they used to, those two guys may be more the exception than the rule.
MrSoup
Footballguy
The only tight ends I’m drafting ahead of him this year would be LaPorta, Kelce, or Kincaid. But also, I’m not paying the price for any of those guys at their ADPs when I can get Brock much, much cheaper.
And after passing on the big dogs at TE with intentions of getting Bowers later, if he gets sniped from me, I love falling back on the combo of Hock/Kmet. Kmet great filler (TE8 in PPR 2023) until Hock gets back and by all accounts, is doing great in his rehab.
MrSoup
Footballguy
The Raiders didn’t draft him to block.
Chaka
Footballguy
That's just what they want you to think.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
so many low-ball offers going to be sent mid-season and next off-season
this is what we were afraid of
this is what we were afraid of
massraider
Footballguy
I am a fan of this:
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Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
What's his 40 time?
jm192
Footballguy
Long term, he'll be amazing.
Short term:
Rookie TE's often start slow. The coaching staff is talking about him having to earn his opportunities through blocking. He's not practicing due to a foot injury.
Doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies for his re-draft value.
ZADO
Footballguy
Im drafting him as my # 2 TE when possible .
The league i already drafted i have him behind Kyle Pitts , and if he is what he`s been billed to be than i have a potential mid rd keeper next season .
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BIRDGANG52
Footballguy
He's not a TE. I wouldn't prefer to rely on him, but if I can stack up at WR/RB in early rounds and still snag him as my TE1, I think that's good business. He's small, but that would only matter if he was asked to block. He's just as big as any WR in this league and since his strength is being a receiving threat, that's all that matters.
finfansteve
Footballguy
This guy, Kincaid, or McBride in a dynasty non ppr, no TE premium league?
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Right or wrong I'd rather go with a TE that's proven he can play at a high level on an NFL field. So McBride or Kincaid for me personally. Although I'm rooting for Bowers to ball out as a rookie
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
This. McBride all day. And I love Bowers, think he'll be a very good one. But I just can't go with a question mark at this juncture.Right or wrong I'd rather go with a TE that's proven he can play at a high level on an NFL field. So McBride or Kincaid for me personally. Although I'm rooting for Bowers to ball out as a rookie
Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
What do you guys think his value is in a league that does not start TE but has full PPR?
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
I see Minshew eyeing Brock early and often. Dude was lining up at TE, FB and WR. He was also getting handoffs in training camp.
I think he will be a sneaky RZ beast and will be Gardner's safety underneath as he has such a noodle arm.
I think he will be a sneaky RZ beast and will be Gardner's safety underneath as he has such a noodle arm.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Don't loooooove that. It's been kept super hush hush, with Pierce not alluding to much more than a foot injury.
What the heck man.
What the heck man.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Pierce just said he's not worried and they are taking things very slowly with him. Our beats said they fully expect him to be ready week 1.
TE has always been a tough spot for rookies. Until Sam LaPorta came along.
They do seem to have a lot planned for Bowers, if he's up to the task. I will say there were plenty of college games where he looked like the best player on the field for a dominant Georgia team.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
At TE11 he seems like a good potential ceiling play for those who don't draft a TE early.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Took him in my home league last weekend. Got him at 11.02. I have engram as my 1. Ceiling is around TE7. Dynasty it’s much higher. I really wanted him but picked 7th.
agreed.
he will likely have a good rookie season by rookie standards. but that likely means only 500-600 total yards and a handful of TD. that makes him a quality backup in most leagues. Not a starter.
and in some of the drafts hes been going around the same time as some of the lower end starters (which means he is likely being drafted too early on average)
if he had a top 12 QB in an offense that likes to feature the TE I wouldnt have concerns, but hes in an offense that likely will be average to below average. and I'm not sure about TE usage. though I have to think if the drafted him early the plan would be to use him.... but teams dont always do that.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
someone took him at TE3.. TE3 over McBride, Engram, Andrews and Kincaid... I think people are going to be very disappointed this rookie season
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
As much as I like him that's just crazy. Every player has his price and TE3 ain't that.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Agree with a lot of this, but the reason Bowers is drafted ahead of even a few other TEs who may out produce him is because of the unknown and his upside. We know what a lot of the other TE bums who may put up 500 yards and 3 TDs will do - they've showed us over the years. We don't know what Bowers will do. And we don't know how much the Raiders will use him, but the clearest indicator of how the Raiders value Bowers is their willingness to use the 12th overall pick in the draft on him.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
That's too high for sure, if only because that drafter could have gotten Bowers at least a couple rounds later.
But a few clowns drafting Bowers abnormally high doesn't mean he's a bad pick at his ADP.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Took him at TE10 in rd 8 of the Shark Pool home league 12-teamer. At that price, my only concern is the cryptic foot injury he has right now. Prior to the injury he was lighting up Raiders camp, lining up all over the field - in line, from the slot, out wide, even in the backfield. My guess is the Raiders intend to use him accordingly, and a player like him could be a best friend to a QB like Minchew.
Unless has a Grays Sports Almanac from 2025 showing Bowers blew up the NFL in 2024 I would call that a bold strategy Cotton.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Making me nervous… I put him on the bench to see him on the field before going in my starting lineup.
What most has me nervous are the “shoppers” looking for a discount now.
Rig24
Footballguy
x.com
x.com
#Raiders HC Antonio Pierce on whether he expects Brock Bowers (foot) to play Week 1:“Yeah, I feel really good about that, to be honest.”Pierce has a 60% reliability rating on injury coachspeak (low sample size), but he’s been more reliable when expressing a high level of confidence
This answer from Pierce is similar to what he said on 12/08/24 about the prospect of Maxx Crosby playing through a knee injury:"Without a doubt. Without a doubt. Yes sir, I feel good about it.”
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Healthy or not, no way you start him out of the gate.
I have an offer in a salary cap, dynasty league of Metcalf ($22), Bowers ($10/2026) for LaPorta ($8/2025). It's really close but I have Lamb, Aiyuk, Pickens, and Ridley (Start 2 with one SF spot). I just don't think I can part with LaPorta's known NFL production. I would have to start Bowers if I made the deal and Metcalf would muddy the wr choices.....Is Bowers safe enough to make this deal?
Fully healthy i was considering it because I think they actually try to showcase their new pick.
2nd week is typically when it falls apart and reality of your team sets in. Week 1 is also a weird week
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Bowers is the most highly touted TE to come out recently, and I can't help but think that noodle armed Minshew is going to need help closer to the line of scrimmage. Adams will get his looks and Meyers will be a potential threat. The backfield isn't much to write home about. I think this team will be playing from behind quite a bit, so it is entirely possible that Bowers gets the ball in his hands more than your typical later round rookie TE who is expected to block. He could basically be their slot guy.
