TE Brock Bowers, LV (1 Viewer)

[bolzano]

It's not his injury, a doctor in here spoke to it. He's just getting phased out of the offense, not being the featured weapon he was before, blah blah blah, blahbity blah.

No. It's the knee. He shouldn't have been playing through it. In fact, if he was becoming less of a target in this offense, he would NOT have been playing and they would have given him time to properly heal.

Before week one when he injured his knee his playing time and route running participation was significantly less then his rookie season. With Mayer being out they've had to use him more then they've wanted to these past few weeks but I don't think that's an indication of how much they intend to play him when he and Mayer are both healthy.

This offense has also no doubt chose to feature players like Tre Tucker some weeks, two by my count.

So to me it's both usage and injury but the injury is the bigger issue right now by far.

Lmao. Week one he had 5 catches, over a 100 yards, and didn't even finish the entire game. So go blame the featured target baloney BS elsewhere

I posted an analysis of his game one usage by an analyst at PFF, and you simply ignored it. You can go on believing that he’s gonna be featured like he was last year and everything will be fine. Indeed, I hope you’re right. But smart football people (menobrown included) have their doubts.

 

[bolzano]

Btw, that doesn’t mean that he’s gonna be absolutely useless. It just means that there’s real risk that he’s gonna underperform his ADP (even when healthy), and TEs like Warren, Kittle, and McBride may have more value ROS.

 

[JohnnyU]

Get a room.

 

[ZADO]

Brock Bowers Misses Practice Again on Friday​

October 3, 2025 at 03:40 PM
Las Vegas Raiders tight end Brock Bowers (knee) missed practice for a second straight day on Friday while he battles a knee injury, per ESPN's Ryan McFadden. Bowers logged a limited practice on Wednesday but has been a non-participant since, putting his status for Week 5 against the Indianapolis Colts in question. The 22-year-old has been playing through a knee sprain he suffered in Week 1, but his production has been subpar by his lofty standards.

Through four games, Bowers has 19 catches for 205 yards and a touchdown on 27 targets. If Las Vegas decides to hold him out in Week 5, tight end Michael Mayer would be in line for a significant jump in playing time and could be a low-end starting fantasy option against the Colts.

 

[menobrown]

It's not his injury, a doctor in here spoke to it. He's just getting phased out of the offense, not being the featured weapon he was before, blah blah blah, blahbity blah.

No. It's the knee. He shouldn't have been playing through it. In fact, if he was becoming less of a target in this offense, he would NOT have been playing and they would have given him time to properly heal.

Before week one when he injured his knee his playing time and route running participation was significantly less then his rookie season. With Mayer being out they've had to use him more then they've wanted to these past few weeks but I don't think that's an indication of how much they intend to play him when he and Mayer are both healthy.

This offense has also no doubt chose to feature players like Tre Tucker some weeks, two by my count.

So to me it's both usage and injury but the injury is the bigger issue right now by far.

Lmao. Week one he had 5 catches, over a 100 yards, and didn't even finish the entire game. So go blame the featured target baloney BS elsewhere

Everything I said about his playing time and usage BEFORE he injured himself was accurate.

You need to adjust your tone or grow up.

 

[JohnnyU]

Get a room.

Ah good ole clique mentality. Absolutely zero logic. Just defend your bud.

I wasn't choosing sides, I was trying to read past the noise.

 

[menobrown]

It's not his injury, a doctor in here spoke to it. He's just getting phased out of the offense, not being the featured weapon he was before, blah blah blah, blahbity blah.

No. It's the knee. He shouldn't have been playing through it. In fact, if he was becoming less of a target in this offense, he would NOT have been playing and they would have given him time to properly heal.

Before week one when he injured his knee his playing time and route running participation was significantly less then his rookie season. With Mayer being out they've had to use him more then they've wanted to these past few weeks but I don't think that's an indication of how much they intend to play him when he and Mayer are both healthy.

This offense has also no doubt chose to feature players like Tre Tucker some weeks, two by my count.

So to me it's both usage and injury but the injury is the bigger issue right now by far.

Lmao. Week one he had 5 catches, over a 100 yards, and didn't even finish the entire game. So go blame the featured target baloney BS elsewhere

Everything I said about his playing time and usage BEFORE he injured himself was accurate.

You need to adjust your tone or grow up.

He was definitely not featured week one (in which he literally didn't even play the full game). You're exactly right. Guy should've had ten catches before leaving the game

I think your username was a play on troll. Should have just leaned into it 100%.

Thank you FBG for having the ignore feature here. Will be using it.

 

[bolzano]

This is literally the most idiotic take on Brock, don't even know why I'm entertaining it. Of course you're also way down on Jeanty too. Possibly an anti Raiders guy?

For the record, I’ve never posted a thing about Jeanty. Moreover, I’m a Bay Area guy. While I’m a Niners fan first and foremost, Raiders are my AFC team and it’s a big reason why I drafted Bowers. (Kittle actually went ahead him.)

 

[Faust]

Underdog NFL
Brock Bowers on the knee injury he's been dealing with, via @ryanmcfadden_:

"I want to be back to going full speed, being able to separate from guys. I feel like I can't really do that to the best of my abilities right now."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1974217438951535098?s=61

 

[Ilov80s]

Hopefully he doesn't go full Kye Pitts. Never go full Kyle Pitts.

 

[bolzano]

Per Underdog:

Brock Bowers (knee) expected to play, will be listed questionable for Week 5.

https://x.com/UnderdogNFL/status/1974203616857874794

 

[bolzano]

Hopefully he doesn't go full Kye Pitts. Never go full Kyle Pitts.

I’m sure ttr001 is gonna roast me for saying this, but I’d rather have Warren and McBride right now. But, a Kyle Pitts-ish regression is unfathomable to me.

 

[Ilov80s]

Hopefully he doesn't go full Kye Pitts. Never go full Kyle Pitts.

I’m sure ttr001 is gonna roast me for saying this, but I’d rather have Warren and McBride right now. But, a Kyle Pitts-ish regression is unfathomable to me.

The Kyle Pitts regression was unfathomable to us in 2022 as well

 

[KellysHeroes]

Hopefully he doesn't go full Kye Pitts. Never go full Kyle Pitts.

I’m sure ttr001 is gonna roast me for saying this, but I’d rather have Warren and McBride right now. But, a Kyle Pitts-ish regression is unfathomable to me.

The Kyle Pitts regression was unfathomable to us in 2022 as well

1st off, its hard to say he's being phased out when he is 2nd on the team in Yards / Recs / Targets while playing 3 games on a bum knee. I think we we're just expecting a lot more but the offense has been so bad that they aren't generating stats. I know its the Raiders but it would be so dumb to phase out a talent like Bowers (when healthy) in favor of Myers / Tucker / Thornton.

Hopefully once that knee heals up more and the offense melds with Chip Kelly the numbers will come.

 

[bolzano]

Hopefully he doesn't go full Kye Pitts. Never go full Kyle Pitts.

I’m sure ttr001 is gonna roast me for saying this, but I’d rather have Warren and McBride right now. But, a Kyle Pitts-ish regression is unfathomable to me.

The Kyle Pitts regression was unfathomable to us in 2022 as well

1st off, its hard to say he's being phased out when he is 2nd on the team in Yards / Recs / Targets while playing 3 games on a bum knee. I think we we're just expecting a lot more but the offense has been so bad that they aren't generating stats. I know its the Raiders but it would be so dumb to phase out a talent like Bowers (when healthy) in favor of Myers / Tucker / Thornton.

Hopefully once that knee heals up more and the offense melds with Chip Kelly the numbers will come.

The only person who’s saying that he’s being phased out is ttr001 and he’s just being hyperbolic and sarcastic. What’s a legit concern is that Carroll/ Chip are going to feature Jeanty + they want a more well-rounded passing game, so Bowers is unlikely to get the target volume that he had in 2024. It remains to be seen whether he can make up for that with increased efficiency (catch rate, YPR, TDs, etc.) because he’s been hurt.

 

[joey]

Dude. Chill. Your tone sucks.

 

[JohnnyU]

Someone turn on the air conditioner.

 

[bolzano]

Hopefully he doesn't go full Kye Pitts. Never go full Kyle Pitts.

I’m sure ttr001 is gonna roast me for saying this, but I’d rather have Warren and McBride right now. But, a Kyle Pitts-ish regression is unfathomable to me.

McBride 100%. Warren? No way. Warren is as old (very slightly older) than Brock and isn't lighting the world on fire either. Doing great, but not like he's going rookie year Bowers or anything

With Warren, he’s healthy (whereas Bowers isn’t) and I have more confidence in the Indy offense going forward. I also think there’s some growth potential there and hence a lot of upside. It’s close though. I think Bowers v McBride is pretty close, too.

I guess what I’m saying is that I had Bowers head and shoulders above McBride et al going into the season. But, the entire situation, from the knee injury to the Raiders offense and his position in it, has changed my valuation in redraft. For dynasty, Bowers is still my TE1, no doubt.

 

[JohnnyU]

Someone turn on the air conditioner.

Right, because I'm roasting y'all!

You aren’t doing squat to me. I just came here to find Bowers news and encountered a cat fight. I’m not getting into the middle of this crap. Everyone should be nicer to each other,

 

[LawFitz]

For dynasty, Bowers is still my TE1, no doubt.

I can buy this, but for redraft his value is pretty shot right now. Too much uncertainty between the knee and the early OL issues and offense in general. If he can get healthy and they can figure things out, he could be a 2nd half redemption story. Or it could go even more sideways on multiple fronts from here... Last I checked the Raiders still haven't figured out that OL and they just lost their stud Left Tackle to IR - and what exactly is this knee injury that he's been dealing with?

 

[bolzano]

Hopefully he doesn't go full Kye Pitts. Never go full Kyle Pitts.

I’m sure ttr001 is gonna roast me for saying this, but I’d rather have Warren and McBride right now. But, a Kyle Pitts-ish regression is unfathomable to me.

McBride 100%. Warren? No way. Warren is as old (very slightly older) than Brock and isn't lighting the world on fire either. Doing great, but not like he's going rookie year Bowers or anything

With Warren, he’s healthy (whereas Bowers isn’t) and I have more confidence in the Indy offense going forward. I also think there’s some growth potential there and hence a lot of upside. It’s close though. I think Bowers v McBride is pretty close, too.

I guess what I’m saying is that I had Bowers head and shoulders above McBride et al going into the season. But, the entire situation, from the knee injury to the Raiders offense and his position in it, has changed my valuation in redraft. For dynasty, Bowers is still my TE1, no doubt.

So you think in terms of short range outlook

For redraft, I’m thinking ROS. When you’re updating your forecast, you have to build his injury and usage risks into your model. Because of what’s happened thus far, there’s more weight on certain negative outcomes than there were predraft and that depresses his valuation. It’s as simple as that.

We all like Bowers, which is why we drafted him in the first place. But we need to be rational and realistic about where he is right now. The odds of him returning his ADP value are much lower than they were predraft, and it’s questionable that his ROS production will be at that 1st/ 2nd round level either.

Note: What I said above pertains to leagues with failly standard settings. Of course, if you play in a TEP league, then the probability of him still providing 1st/ 2nd round value is much higher.

 

[dkp993]

Wow, fun 2 pages.

 

[Ilov80s]

Hopefully he doesn't go full Kye Pitts. Never go full Kyle Pitts.

I’m sure ttr001 is gonna roast me for saying this, but I’d rather have Warren and McBride right now. But, a Kyle Pitts-ish regression is unfathomable to me.

The Kyle Pitts regression was unfathomable to us in 2022 as well

To compare this guy to Pitts is hilarious. His one healthy first half of week 1 shows me enough. The fact he's played through and gotten literally anything at all while hurt is more than enough.

I swear this thread is showing a newbie like myself the ones I can follow and the ones I ignore completely

They are very comparable given the expectations, draft capital and Y1 production.

 

[Ilov80s]

At this point, Pitts is the most comparable player to Bowers we have period

 

[Harjiran]

This thread sucks.

 

[bolzano]

For dynasty, Bowers is still my TE1, no doubt.

I can buy this, but for redraft his value is pretty shot right now. Too much uncertainty between the knee and the early OL issues and offense in general. If he can get healthy and they can figure things out, he could be a 2nd half redemption story. Or it could go even more sideways on multiple fronts from here... Last I checked the Raiders still haven't figured out that OL and they just lost their stud Left Tackle to IR - and what exactly is this knee injury that he's been dealing with?

Yes, this is where I am too. His ROS outlook is high variance and it’s skewing more negative than it was in August. But, IMO, he’s still a TE1 with considerable upside.

 

[bolzano]

This thread sucks.

I can’t wait till this Sunday when Bowers goes for 7/100/1 and ttr001 does his TD dance. Thing is, I’ll be smiling right along with him, thinking I had something to do with it by motivating the fantasy gods to action with my pessimism.

 

[bolzano]

This thread sucks.

I can’t wait till this Sunday when Bowers goes for 7/100/1 and ttr001 does his TD dance. Thing is, I’ll be smiling right along with him, thinking I had something to do with it by motivating the fantasy gods to action with my pessimism.

I do like you though man. I'm sorry for being so critical on you

Ditto dude. We’re good. I think we’re pretty close on Bowers, too. I’m definitely not throwing in the towel on him in redraft, as I still see him as a top 40-50 asset. I’m just bummed because I anticipated so much more.

He’s legit been the best player on the field dating back to his days at UGA. As I said earlier in the thread, I see him as a generational talent like Gronk and Kelce. He should be putting up WR1 numbers like they did, and I believe he still will. Unfortunately, that may not happen until my team is eliminated from contention, or perhaps even next year.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I have Waller and Fannin, I think I"m sitting Bowers. Don't like this whole juju one bit

 

[KellysHeroes]

Dynasty owners aren't selling at a discount :(

 

[JohnnyU]

Dynasty owners aren't selling at a discount :(

I don't think they should. Especially in TE Prem leagues.

 

[Football Jones]

Looks like ol' Pete may not like Bowers as much as FFers do. In week 1, he was in on 2 snaps the first drive (7 or 8 plays before a TD). The second series he was in on 5 of 10 plays before an INT. Third series was 3 and out and Bowers' only snap was on 3rd down. That was through the 1st quarter.

I know he got hurt in week 1, but his initial usage in the 1st quarter suggested a part-timer for whatever reason (non-negotiable). Mayer also started the game in week 2 (Bowers came in on 2nd down). His snap percentage has went up lately, but Mayer has been out. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Mayer returns.

If Bowers' usage goes back down to around 50%, do they prefer Mayer's blocking in 11 personnel to get Tucker on the field? Not sure what to make of it. Reduced snaps doesn't necessarily mean Bowers can't still get a bunch of targets, but it's far from ideal.

 

[menobrown]

Looks like ol' Pete may not like Bowers as much as FFers do. In week 1, he was in on 2 snaps the first drive (7 or 8 plays before a TD). The second series he was in on 5 of 10 plays before an INT. Third series was 3 and out and Bowers' only snap was on 3rd down. That was through the 1st quarter.

I know he got hurt in week 1, but his initial usage in the 1st quarter suggested a part-timer for whatever reason (non-negotiable). Mayer also started the game in week 2 (Bowers came in on 2nd down). His snap percentage has went up lately, but Mayer has been out. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Mayer returns.

If Bowers' usage rgoes back down to around 50%, do they prefer Mayer's blocking in 11 personnel to get Tucker on the field? Not sure what to make of it. Reduced snaps doesn't necessarily mean Bowers can't still get a bunch of targets, but it's far from ideal.

Yes, week one showed us his playing time was less then last year. Pre-season showed us this as well and started to worry some people but we got it confirmed in week one. All before he got hurt in the 4th quarter.

Two things I'd add. His usage was never as bad as 50%. Just playing considerably less in 11 personnel packages. The other thing I'd add is is the "why". I think Carroll just likes to establish the running game and feels like there are TE's that can block better.

My issue with their approach is they should just play Bowers more over Tucker or Thornton if they want to go heavier. At least when he's healthy.

 

[JohnnyU]

Looks like ol' Pete may not like Bowers as much as FFers do. In week 1, he was in on 2 snaps the first drive (7 or 8 plays before a TD). The second series he was in on 5 of 10 plays before an INT. Third series was 3 and out and Bowers' only snap was on 3rd down. That was through the 1st quarter.

I know he got hurt in week 1, but his initial usage in the 1st quarter suggested a part-timer for whatever reason (non-negotiable). Mayer also started the game in week 2 (Bowers came in on 2nd down). His snap percentage has went up lately, but Mayer has been out. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Mayer returns.

If Bowers' usage rgoes back down to around 50%, do they prefer Mayer's blocking in 11 personnel to get Tucker on the field? Not sure what to make of it. Reduced snaps doesn't necessarily mean Bowers can't still get a bunch of targets, but it's far from ideal.

Yes, week one showed us his playing time was less then last year. Pre-season showed us this as well and started to worry some people but we got it confirmed in week one. All before he got hurt in the 4th quarter.

Two things I'd add. His usage was never as bad as 50%. Just playing considerably less in 11 personnel packages. The other thing I'd add is is the "why". I think Carroll just likes to establish the running game and feels like there are TE's that can block better.

My issue with their approach is they should just play Bowers more over Tucker or Thornton if they want to go heavier. At least when he's healthy.

keyword to all of this is "healthy". All this other stuff in this thread isn't as important IMO.

 

[Football Jones]

Looks like ol' Pete may not like Bowers as much as FFers do. In week 1, he was in on 2 snaps the first drive (7 or 8 plays before a TD). The second series he was in on 5 of 10 plays before an INT. Third series was 3 and out and Bowers' only snap was on 3rd down. That was through the 1st quarter.

I know he got hurt in week 1, but his initial usage in the 1st quarter suggested a part-timer for whatever reason (non-negotiable). Mayer also started the game in week 2 (Bowers came in on 2nd down). His snap percentage has went up lately, but Mayer has been out. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Mayer returns.

If Bowers' usage rgoes back down to around 50%, do they prefer Mayer's blocking in 11 personnel to get Tucker on the field? Not sure what to make of it. Reduced snaps doesn't mean Bowers can't still get a bunch of targets, but it's far from ideal.

Oh Jesus here we go again. For the last dang time, any team worth their salt isn't going to feature a guy with a knee injury that should probably be sidelining said player especially if they weren't going to be a focal point on offense. I keep seeing first quarter this first quarter that, but we're gonna ignore that there were a quite a few players who struggled week one?? Give me a dang break.

It's not about struggling, Slick. A lot of people noticed the lower usage in week 1. It was odd given Bower's past.

Maybe his usage in week 1 was simply related to specific packages they wanted to feature against the Pats, but Pete don't care about FF. Obviously, people are focused on Bower's production (which was still good in week 1), but lots of eyes will be on his usage when Mayer returns.

Mo usage is mo betta. Maybe week 1 was a fluke...we'll likely find out fairly soon.

 

[Football Jones]

Bowers can still be good as evidenced in week 1 with around 50% of snaps. Would I still worry a little about his usage at 50%, long-term? Absolutely.

 

[Football Jones]

Imagine worrying long term about a player based off of snap count in week one of half a game

Half a game? What are you talking about, lol.

 

[JohnnyU]

I really don't understand some of the discussion going on in this thread. If / when Bowers is healthy he will be a top end TE for fantasy and certainly an important part of the Raiders offense. All this other stuff is BS imo and some have too much time on their hands and are overthinking Bowers.

 

[Football Jones]

Looks like ol' Pete may not like Bowers as much as FFers do. In week 1, he was in on 2 snaps the first drive (7 or 8 plays before a TD). The second series he was in on 5 of 10 plays before an INT. Third series was 3 and out and Bowers' only snap was on 3rd down. That was through the 1st quarter.

I know he got hurt in week 1, but his initial usage in the 1st quarter suggested a part-timer for whatever reason (non-negotiable). Mayer also started the game in week 2 (Bowers came in on 2nd down). His snap percentage has went up lately, but Mayer has been out. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Mayer returns.

If Bowers' usage rgoes back down to around 50%, do they prefer Mayer's blocking in 11 personnel to get Tucker on the field? Not sure what to make of it. Reduced snaps doesn't necessarily mean Bowers can't still get a bunch of targets, but it's far from ideal.

Yes, week one showed us his playing time was less then last year. Pre-season showed us this as well and started to worry some people but we got it confirmed in week one. All before he got hurt in the 4th quarter.

Two things I'd add. His usage was never as bad as 50%. Just playing considerably less in 11 personnel packages. The other thing I'd add is is the "why". I think Carroll just likes to establish the running game and feels like there are TE's that can block better.

My issue with their approach is they should just play Bowers more over Tucker or Thornton if they want to go heavier. At least when he's healthy.

Yeah, I think 12 personnel is probly their best package. I wouldn't be in a hurry to trade Bowers if I owned him, but his usage is definitely something to monitor under Pete.

 

[Football Jones]

I really don't understand some of the discussion going on in this thread. If / when Bowers is healthy he will be a top end TE for fantasy and certainly an important part of the Raiders offense. All this other stuff is BS imo and some have too much time on their hands and are overthinking Bowers.

In the end, you could be right, but you wouldn't worry about a 50% snap share (long-term)?

 

[JohnnyU]

I really don't understand some of the discussion going on in this thread. If / when Bowers is healthy he will be a top end TE for fantasy and certainly an important part of the Raiders offense. All this other stuff is BS imo and some have too much time on their hands and are overthinking Bowers.

In the end, you could be right, but you wouldn't worry about a 50% snap share (long-term)?

Hell no I don't worry about that and neither should you. You're a seasoned dynasty player and should know better. I think you do know better, but are overthinking this.

 

[menobrown]

Looks like ol' Pete may not like Bowers as much as FFers do. In week 1, he was in on 2 snaps the first drive (7 or 8 plays before a TD). The second series he was in on 5 of 10 plays before an INT. Third series was 3 and out and Bowers' only snap was on 3rd down. That was through the 1st quarter.

I know he got hurt in week 1, but his initial usage in the 1st quarter suggested a part-timer for whatever reason (non-negotiable). Mayer also started the game in week 2 (Bowers came in on 2nd down). His snap percentage has went up lately, but Mayer has been out. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Mayer returns.

If Bowers' usage rgoes back down to around 50%, do they prefer Mayer's blocking in 11 personnel to get Tucker on the field? Not sure what to make of it. Reduced snaps doesn't necessarily mean Bowers can't still get a bunch of targets, but it's far from ideal.

Yes, week one showed us his playing time was less then last year. Pre-season showed us this as well and started to worry some people but we got it confirmed in week one. All before he got hurt in the 4th quarter.

Two things I'd add. His usage was never as bad as 50%. Just playing considerably less in 11 personnel packages. The other thing I'd add is is the "why". I think Carroll just likes to establish the running game and feels like there are TE's that can block better.

My issue with their approach is they should just play Bowers more over Tucker or Thornton if they want to go heavier. At least when he's healthy.

keyword to all of this is "healthy". All this other stuff in this thread isn't as important IMO.

Don’t agree.

Health is his primary issue but the usage, even when healthy, is the secondary issue and a legit one.

 

[Football Jones]

I really don't understand some of the discussion going on in this thread. If / when Bowers is healthy he will be a top end TE for fantasy and certainly an important part of the Raiders offense. All this other stuff is BS imo and some have too much time on their hands and are overthinking Bowers.

In the end, you could be right, but you wouldn't worry about a 50% snap share (long-term)?

Hell no I don't worry about that and neither should you. You're a seasoned dynasty player and should know better. I think you do know better, but are overthinking this.

I don't own Bowers, but yeah, I'd worry about a 50% snap share if it continues. Will it? Maybe not.

Acting like a 50% snap share is ok (long-term) is crazy. Opposing DCs aren't dumb, lol. No way he could be an elite FF producer with 50% of snaps over the course of his career.

Pete won't be there forever, but I gotta love the blind faith in Bowser.

 

[JohnnyU]

I really don't understand some of the discussion going on in this thread. If / when Bowers is healthy he will be a top end TE for fantasy and certainly an important part of the Raiders offense. All this other stuff is BS imo and some have too much time on their hands and are overthinking Bowers.

In the end, you could be right, but you wouldn't worry about a 50% snap share (long-term)?

Hell no I don't worry about that and neither should you. You're a seasoned dynasty player and should know better. I think you do know better, but are overthinking this.

I don't own Bowers, but yeah, I'd worry about a 50% snap share if it continues. Will it? Maybe not.

Acting like a 50% snap share is ok (long-term) is crazy. Opposing DCs aren't dumb, lol. No way he could be an elite FF producer with 50% of snaps over the course of his career.

Pete won't be there forever, but I gotta love the blind faith in Bowser.

Yeah, I think everything mentioned in this thread except health is crazy.

 

[Football Jones]

I really don't understand some of the discussion going on in this thread. If / when Bowers is healthy he will be a top end TE for fantasy and certainly an important part of the Raiders offense. All this other stuff is BS imo and some have too much time on their hands and are overthinking Bowers.

In the end, you could be right, but you wouldn't worry about a 50% snap share (long-term)?

Hell no I don't worry about that and neither should you. You're a seasoned dynasty player and should know better. I think you do know better, but are overthinking this.

I don't own Bowers, but yeah, I'd worry about a 50% snap share if it continues. Will it? Maybe not.

Acting like a 50% snap share is ok (long-term) is crazy. Opposing DCs aren't dumb, lol. No way he could be an elite FF producer with 50% of snaps over the course of his career.

Pete won't be there forever, but I gotta love the blind faith in Bowser.

Yeah, I think everything mentioned in this thread except health is crazy.

So you're ignoring the usage, totally? What if Bowers continues to get 50% of snaps?

 

[menobrown]

I really don't understand some of the discussion going on in this thread. If / when Bowers is healthy he will be a top end TE for fantasy and certainly an important part of the Raiders offense. All this other stuff is BS imo and some have too much time on their hands and are overthinking Bowers.

Honestly I think you could use some deeper analysis in your thought process.

I don't know if anyone is saying he can't be a top TE when he's healthy but it's about meeting expectations for his draft cost in redraft and in dynasty dealing with a second year TE who should be a better player then he was as a rookie likely not getting the same amount of opportunities, even when healthy.

 

[Football Jones]

I really don't understand some of the discussion going on in this thread. If / when Bowers is healthy he will be a top end TE for fantasy and certainly an important part of the Raiders offense. All this other stuff is BS imo and some have too much time on their hands and are overthinking Bowers.

In the end, you could be right, but you wouldn't worry about a 50% snap share (long-term)?

Hell no I don't worry about that and neither should you. You're a seasoned dynasty player and should know better. I think you do know better, but are overthinking this.

I don't own Bowers, but yeah, I'd worry about a 50% snap share if it continues. Will it? Maybe not.

Acting like a 50% snap share is ok (long-term) is crazy. Opposing DCs aren't dumb, lol. No way he could be an elite FF producer with 50% of snaps over the course of his career.

Pete won't be there forever, but I gotta love the blind faith in Bowser.

Blind faith? You're throwing his entire rookie season out for a game in which he left in the third quarter? I honestly have zero idea why I'm even wasting my time with people who post garbage

You know why you're posting, Slick.

It's not about the 3rd quarter (of which he essentially played until the end of the 3rd). I don't own Bowers, but I started hearing rumors about lower usage in camp. The 1st quarter was interesting to me. Same for week 2 when Mayer started. It's called data.

This is an FF board. We take a look at all the dynamics.

 

[Football Jones]

I really don't understand some of the discussion going on in this thread. If / when Bowers is healthy he will be a top end TE for fantasy and certainly an important part of the Raiders offense. All this other stuff is BS imo and some have too much time on their hands and are overthinking Bowers.

In the end, you could be right, but you wouldn't worry about a 50% snap share (long-term)?

Hell no I don't worry about that and neither should you. You're a seasoned dynasty player and should know better. I think you do know better, but are overthinking this.

I don't own Bowers, but yeah, I'd worry about a 50% snap share if it continues. Will it? Maybe not.

Acting like a 50% snap share is ok (long-term) is crazy. Opposing DCs aren't dumb, lol. No way he could be an elite FF producer with 50% of snaps over the course of his career.

Pete won't be there forever, but I gotta love the blind faith in Bowser.

Yeah, I think everything mentioned in this thread except health is crazy.

So you're ignoring the usage, totally? What if Bowers continues to get 50% of snaps?

Well the good thing is he has been getting significantly more than 50% snap share the last few weeks while injured. So there's that

Only you're forgetting one thing...

 

[menobrown]

It's not about the 3rd quarter (of which he essentially played until the end of the 3rd)

I think got injured in the 4th quarter fwiw.

 

[Football Jones]

This may very well not be nothing, but I need to catch up.

@menobrown What was Bowers' preseason usage? Was that what got people thinking lower usage? Was Mayer starting?