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TE Dallas Goedert, PHI (1 Viewer)
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zamboni
Footballguy
Yeah, I’m concerned that even if Goedert plays, it might not be a full snap load. Versus the Bears, it could be a very run heavy game script, particularly if the weather conditions are poor. And when Hurts does throw, it’s not like he doesn’t already have a great pair of WRs to use.
people don’t realize that Minschew is arguably one of the best backup QB’s in the league. Behind that line and with those weapons, I fully expect him to put up respectable numbers.
Runkle
Footballguy
Right, last week (and even the weekend before) reports were 'he's looking good on the sidelines', 'no issues', 'might not have even needed to go on IR, could have played'... then not activated. Was there a reason why? Roster space or something we're not being told?
rockaction
Footballguy
Maybe this guy will start getting his due in that offense, but with Devonta Smith and A.J. Brown, he'll always be third fiddle. You want a TE that's second fiddle. Goedert (and I roster him and basically him alone at TE in my main dynasty league) is always going to be more of a potential weapon for that offense than he'll give you fantasy production. Sad, but true. But he really is one of the better TEs in a diminished landscape (aside from the rookies).
The Aiyuk of TE's. Talent>stats.
Saying that if I pulled out the proration machine and accounted for the 5 games he missed he'd be right near 80/1000, which is kind of crazy because he'd have worked out to just a hair under 100 targets. That's some pretty strong numbers and he was the #5 TE in PPG in my TE premium leagues even with being a little light on TD's. I just think if he was in a different offense he'd be discussed as maybe being the best all around TE in the game.
Saying that if I pulled out the proration machine and accounted for the 5 games he missed he'd be right near 80/1000, which is kind of crazy because he'd have worked out to just a hair under 100 targets. That's some pretty strong numbers and he was the #5 TE in PPG in my TE premium leagues even with being a little light on TD's. I just think if he was in a different offense he'd be discussed as maybe being the best all around TE in the game.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Roster AJB and Goedert and have always looked at it as, if they're both healthy then great, they're both healthy. If one of them goes down, then I should get a boost from the other.
There was a point before the Hockenson trade to the Vikings that Goedert had surpassed Hockenson in the consensus rankings. I had a complete tossup on which one to include in a trade and I chose to keep Goedert. Probably would take a do-over on that one for the reasons already citied, but if Goedert ever makes it to elite fantasy status, he's doing it on my roster darnit.
There was a point before the Hockenson trade to the Vikings that Goedert had surpassed Hockenson in the consensus rankings. I had a complete tossup on which one to include in a trade and I chose to keep Goedert. Probably would take a do-over on that one for the reasons already citied, but if Goedert ever makes it to elite fantasy status, he's doing it on my roster darnit.
She Caw Go Tears
Footballguy
I was wondering the same thing, was excited to pick him up in two leagues. Didn't expect this.
rockaction
Footballguy
Ran enough routes, was never really targeted outside of once or twice.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
QB prerogative today. He was open a couple times and Hurts went elsewhere. When Hurts sees the game film he'll see what he missed. Romo pointed out two plays back to back that Goedert was wide open.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, I saw that. I simply said wasn't targeted, not never open. Them's the breaks, you know? Usually the receiver and the quarterback are a package deal.
The Frankman
Footballguy
TampaMike19
Footballguy
****ing brutal - favorite target of mine this year and poof
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
You don’t get .10 pts per route run? Submit a scoring change for 2024.
95% route participation!
:confetti:
rockaction
Footballguy
37 routes run, according to PFF.
Devonta and AJ had around 42-43.
That's big time route participation, as BL points out.
Devonta and AJ had around 42-43.
That's big time route participation, as BL points out.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
3.7 points in my longtime FootballOutsiders-NextGen-PFF league
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Reminded me of my previous site in the Jordan Mason hype thread. It was 90 pages of him not doing anything, but getting a special teams tackle. Special teams tackles and route participation should be standard scoring additions to all leagues.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I'm gonna put what I said about him in the Panic Meter thread in here too:
I don't think we can read much into what happened with him yesterday. The weather was terrible, the NE defense played very well and the Eagles struggled to move the ball except on the first two drives, one of which was very short due to Elliott's fumble. Several times Goedert was open and Hurts didn't see him or had already made up his mind to go elsewhere. And Sirianni said after the game that he wants to get Goedert (and Swift) more involved.
Brown always gets his, but sometimes one of Smith or Goedert doesn't. That's what happened yesterday.
I don't think we can read much into what happened with him yesterday. The weather was terrible, the NE defense played very well and the Eagles struggled to move the ball except on the first two drives, one of which was very short due to Elliott's fumble. Several times Goedert was open and Hurts didn't see him or had already made up his mind to go elsewhere. And Sirianni said after the game that he wants to get Goedert (and Swift) more involved.
Brown always gets his, but sometimes one of Smith or Goedert doesn't. That's what happened yesterday.
zamboni
Footballguy
You should see this site’s Mason thread from last year. Or maybe not.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Guess those rb hype threads translate everywhere. Christine Michael comes to mind also. People be slashing tires over that one. Back on topic. Only maybe 5 tight ends is take over this dude.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Plus we award bonuses if it’s inside the 25 on a kickoff or the punt return is 2 yards or less. Punters who are Top 5 in net average are basically like QBs in SuperFlex. Still working on how to score Long Snappers though, very contentious debate on the Discord.
Goedert. Goedert was on pace for 78 receptions, and 1000 yards last year, but missed 5 weeks with an injury. Philly is still the better offense with the better QB
FairWarning
Footballguy
I had the same decision, looks like Goedert was the wrong choice.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Brutal. To the bench he goes until they stop running effectively or their defense gets the eagles down. Guess he had like 30% target share but who cares if they’re just check downs
FairWarning
Footballguy
Can’t see him doing much next week if AJ Brown is complaining about usage.
Yea the play calling for eagles this year isn’t looking that great …I get running on the Vikings because they couldn’t stop it. But still the pass plays they ran looked very basic
Do football guys track stats for the play callers and what those offenses look like in terms of fantasy points ?
because the Eagles and Cowboys look very different so far and having the right play caller seems very important for determine offensive usage in general
Kellen Moore
Shane Steichen
Do football guys track stats for the play callers and what those offenses look like in terms of fantasy points ?
because the Eagles and Cowboys look very different so far and having the right play caller seems very important for determine offensive usage in general
Kellen Moore
Shane Steichen
This is good on you to own and I recall refuting you labeling him a TE2 in the panic thread.
I was of course refuting the notion he can't can't survive as the third wheel in this low volume passing attack because he just did it last year.
But you kind of don't have to eat crow, not yet anyway. Even in the 1.5 PPR TE premium leagues I own Goedert he barely scratched out a usable game and his yards per route run, which I believe was better then any player in the league last year, is way down. My point I'm making here is I knew the one target game was an anomaly but he's still got be hyper efficient with his targets to return value and he's not been yet. I suspect that will change, but IMO you don't have to eat crow as of yet.
