TE Dalton Kincaid, BUF (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

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Dawson Knox said that TE Dalton Kincaid was playing on a torn PCL in one knee and with an aggravated other knee — “It’s insane what he’s played through”

Then he should not have been playing. He was the BOTY candidate for fantasy and probably cost his team a chance at the Super Bowl.

I think the Bills' Defense allowing 32 to a Chiefs team that struggled to hit 21 many weeks was the overriding factor for their loss
I hear what you're saying, Allen managed to get the ball in his area with that throw, some players make that catch but look at Andrews vs the Bills the week prior
I pin the blame for the Bills loss on their defense, you don't win many allowing 32 in a Playoff game
Still was a fun game and might even be better than the Super Bowl

 

[Uncle Leo]

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Dawson Knox said that TE Dalton Kincaid was playing on a torn PCL in one knee and with an aggravated other knee — “It’s insane what he’s played through”

Then he should not have been playing. He was the BOTY candidate for fantasy and probably cost his team a chance at the Super Bowl.

I think the Bills' Defense allowing 32 to a Chiefs team that struggled to hit 21 many weeks was the overriding factor for their loss
I hear what you're saying, Allen managed to get the ball in his area with that throw, some players make that catch but look at Andrews vs the Bills the week prior
I pin the blame for the Bills loss on their defense, you don't win many allowing 32 in a Playoff game
Still was a fun game and might even be better than the Super Bowl

You are right MOP. I’m just tired of players playing hurt. They should not be playing if they can’t contribute and/or risking their health. I mean why is the dude allowed to play football if he’s got a torn PCL?

 

[Big Nate]

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Dawson Knox said that TE Dalton Kincaid was playing on a torn PCL in one knee and with an aggravated other knee — “It’s insane what he’s played through”

Then he should not have been playing. He was the BOTY candidate for fantasy and probably cost his team a chance at the Super Bowl.

I think the Bills' Defense allowing 32 to a Chiefs team that struggled to hit 21 many weeks was the overriding factor for their loss
I hear what you're saying, Allen managed to get the ball in his area with that throw, some players make that catch but look at Andrews vs the Bills the week prior
I pin the blame for the Bills loss on their defense, you don't win many allowing 32 in a Playoff game
Still was a fun game and might even be better than the Super Bowl

You are right MOP. I’m just tired of players playing hurt. They should not be playing if they can’t contribute and/or risking their health. I mean why is the dude allowed to play football if he’s got a torn PCL?

Coaches and the organization push these players to play. Players want to be out there, especially for a playoff game.

 

[menobrown]

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Dawson Knox said that TE Dalton Kincaid was playing on a torn PCL in one knee and with an aggravated other knee — “It’s insane what he’s played through”

Then he should not have been playing. He was the BOTY candidate for fantasy and probably cost his team a chance at the Super Bowl.

I think the Bills' Defense allowing 32 to a Chiefs team that struggled to hit 21 many weeks was the overriding factor for their loss
I hear what you're saying, Allen managed to get the ball in his area with that throw, some players make that catch but look at Andrews vs the Bills the week prior
I pin the blame for the Bills loss on their defense, you don't win many allowing 32 in a Playoff game
Still was a fun game and might even be better than the Super Bowl

You are right MOP. I’m just tired of players playing hurt. They should not be playing if they can’t contribute and/or risking their health. I mean why is the dude allowed to play football if he’s got a torn PCL?

If everyone needed to be 100% healthy to play it would look like the strike year games in 1987 by the end of the season.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

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Dawson Knox said that TE Dalton Kincaid was playing on a torn PCL in one knee and with an aggravated other knee — “It’s insane what he’s played through”

Then he should not have been playing. He was the BOTY candidate for fantasy and probably cost his team a chance at the Super Bowl.

I think the Bills' Defense allowing 32 to a Chiefs team that struggled to hit 21 many weeks was the overriding factor for their loss
I hear what you're saying, Allen managed to get the ball in his area with that throw, some players make that catch but look at Andrews vs the Bills the week prior
I pin the blame for the Bills loss on their defense, you don't win many allowing 32 in a Playoff game
Still was a fun game and might even be better than the Super Bowl

You are right MOP. I’m just tired of players playing hurt. They should not be playing if they can’t contribute and/or risking their health. I mean why is the dude allowed to play football if he’s got a torn PCL?

If everyone needed to be 100% healthy to play it would look like the strike year games in 1987 by the end of the season.

And I believe both strike shortened seasons in '82 and '87 featured the Washington Redskins winning the Super Bowl

 

[zamboni]

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Dawson Knox said that TE Dalton Kincaid was playing on a torn PCL in one knee and with an aggravated other knee — “It’s insane what he’s played through”

Then he should not have been playing. He was the BOTY candidate for fantasy and probably cost his team a chance at the Super Bowl.

I think the Bills' Defense allowing 32 to a Chiefs team that struggled to hit 21 many weeks was the overriding factor for their loss
I hear what you're saying, Allen managed to get the ball in his area with that throw, some players make that catch but look at Andrews vs the Bills the week prior
I pin the blame for the Bills loss on their defense, you don't win many allowing 32 in a Playoff game
Still was a fun game and might even be better than the Super Bowl

You are right MOP. I’m just tired of players playing hurt. They should not be playing if they can’t contribute and/or risking their health. I mean why is the dude allowed to play football if he’s got a torn PCL?

If everyone needed to be 100% healthy to play it would look like the strike year games in 1987 by the end of the season.

By the end of the season, everyone is banged up. If you're not, you're probably just lucky or doing something wrong. Some guys can just play through their injuries better than others.

As for Kincaid, I still go back to the early season when he did nothing before he was injured. Next year, I may take a late flier on him, but at least it can be later instead of foolishly reaching too early on him this year (over Bowers )

 

[menobrown]

As for Kincaid, I still go back to the early season when he did nothing before he was injured.

Same, which I know we discussed a few days ago but the PCL injury did not account for his middling first 9 weeks.

I know Knox said he had another unknown injury to his other knee but I'm having a hard time thinking that was the issue those 9 weeks either.

Those comments by Allen about doing better at getting him the ball was more encouraging for next year then Knox's injury excuse, which I think is valid, but only for his play once he returned.

I still think he's got a bright future and I own him in several dynasty leagues and have no interest in trying to move him. Would rather buy him cheap then sale him low, though I will say a case could be made that with a healthy influx of strong looking TE's in this rookie crop his value could get lower. But I believe his day will come. But I also think to be what we all thought he could be entering this season he needs a minimum of Knox or Brady to leave and it does not look like either of those things are happening this off-season.

2026 breakout coming!

 

[zamboni]

As for Kincaid, I still go back to the early season when he did nothing before he was injured.

Same, which I know we discussed a few days ago but the PCL injury did not account for his middling first 9 weeks.

I know Knox said he had another unknown injury to his other knee but I'm having a hard time thinking that was the issue those 9 weeks either.

Those comments by Allen about doing better at getting him the ball was more encouraging for next year then Knox's injury excuse, which I think is valid, but only for his play once he returned.

I still think he's got a bright future and I own him in several dynasty leagues and have no interest in trying to move him. Would rather buy him cheap then sale him low, though I will say a case could be made that with a healthy influx of strong looking TE's in this rookie crop his value could get lower. But I believe his day will come. But I also think to be what we all thought he could be entering this season he needs a minimum of Knox or Brady to leave and it does not look like either of those things are happening this off-season.

2026 breakout coming!

Knox is assuredly overpaid, but seems like they really value his blocking prowess. Plus doesn’t hurt when you’re good buddies with the franchise QB.

 

[menobrown]

As for Kincaid, I still go back to the early season when he did nothing before he was injured.

Same, which I know we discussed a few days ago but the PCL injury did not account for his middling first 9 weeks.

I know Knox said he had another unknown injury to his other knee but I'm having a hard time thinking that was the issue those 9 weeks either.

Those comments by Allen about doing better at getting him the ball was more encouraging for next year then Knox's injury excuse, which I think is valid, but only for his play once he returned.

I still think he's got a bright future and I own him in several dynasty leagues and have no interest in trying to move him. Would rather buy him cheap then sale him low, though I will say a case could be made that with a healthy influx of strong looking TE's in this rookie crop his value could get lower. But I believe his day will come. But I also think to be what we all thought he could be entering this season he needs a minimum of Knox or Brady to leave and it does not look like either of those things are happening this off-season.

2026 breakout coming!

Knox is assuredly overpaid, but seems like they really value his blocking prowess. Plus doesn’t hurt when you’re good buddies with the franchise QB.

He is but I checked on his salary a few weeks ago to see if he might be a cut candidate since they are super tight on cap space and saw that $4.5m of his $9.25m base is fully guaranteed so that makes moving on this off-season seem pretty unlikely, though I think you could make a case even if they just ate the $4.5M they could get what he offers for $5m or less but like you are alluding to they seem to like his fit on the team. Right now he carries a $14M cap hit on a team that is $11m over the cap. Not a great use of resources. Anticipating next season is his last as a Bill, unless he takes a paycut in 26.

 

[The Duff Man]

The Bills have badly mismanaged their cap, they took a few big swings that didn’t pan out:
- extending Diggs
- signing Miller
- extending Knox to a ridiculous contract and then using a first round pick on another TE

You definitely need to blame the defense, they had no reliable backup when CB1 went out on the first drive and the guy they put in got torched all game. KC burned their backup LBs all game in last years elimination so they should have been ready and done something to adjust.

But Kincaid needs to catch that ball.

 

[Big Nate]

The Bills have badly mismanaged their cap, they took a few big swings that didn’t pan out:
- extending Diggs
- signing Miller
- extending Knox to a ridiculous contract and then using a first round pick on another TE

You definitely need to blame the defense, they had no reliable backup when CB1 went out on the first drive and the guy they put in got torched all game. KC burned their backup LBs all game in last years elimination so they should have been ready and done something to adjust.

But Kincaid needs to catch that ball.

Knox is a good TE and does a lot for that offense. He may not be good for fantasy but that doesn't mean he isn't good or doesn't deserve the contract.

 

[zamboni]

The Bills have badly mismanaged their cap, they took a few big swings that didn’t pan out:
- extending Diggs
- signing Miller
- extending Knox to a ridiculous contract and then using a first round pick on another TE

You definitely need to blame the defense, they had no reliable backup when CB1 went out on the first drive and the guy they put in got torched all game. KC burned their backup LBs all game in last years elimination so they should have been ready and done something to adjust.

But Kincaid needs to catch that ball.

Knox is a good TE and does a lot for that offense. He may not be good for fantasy but that doesn't mean he isn't good or doesn't deserve the contract.

Fair but there are plenty of good blocking TEs out there for a lot less money. I think the Bills saw some offensive production a few years back and jumped a bit too quickly to lock him up.

 

[Faust]

@32BeatWriters
“Dalton Kincaid was a standout performer on Thursday, making several impressive catches, particularly during the red zone and goal line 7-on-7 period.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1933353249039323383?s=61

 

[barackdhouse]

Going pretty late in drafts, might be a good value this year

 

[travdogg]

Going pretty late in drafts, might be a good value this year

Certainly wouldn't be the 1st highly hyped guy the fantasy community was just a year early on.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Going pretty late in drafts, might be a good value this year

Certainly wouldn't be the 1st highly hyped guy the fantasy community was just a year early on.

Tough to see a huge jump with Knox still around and the deepened receiver depth chart, but for dynasty I still think he is a good investment at this value point.

 

[FarFromHome]

Man I bit so hard on him last year. Like so hard. Just don't know if I have the strength to just forget about the pain he caused me and move forward with him. Gonna need to reflect a bit.

 

[travdogg]

Going pretty late in drafts, might be a good value this year

Certainly wouldn't be the 1st highly hyped guy the fantasy community was just a year early on.

Tough to see a huge jump with Knox still around and the deepened receiver depth chart, but for dynasty I still think he is a good investment at this value point.

Its a lot of bodies, but nobody of any real substance. Kincaid could still absolutely be the top pass catcher on this team. If Kincaid is really good, guys like Knox, Palmer, Moore, Samuel etc. won't stand in his way. There is absolutely room for Kincaid to be a 80+ catch guy in my opinion, its just a matter if he's up for it, and so far that's not happened, but he's the most likely to do it if anyone does in my opinion.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Man I bit so hard on him last year. Like so hard. Just don't know if I have the strength to just forget about the pain he caused me and move forward with him. Gonna need to reflect a bit.

Loved him coming out of college and thought he would beast immediately. Showed good promise his rookie year and then last year was a bit of a gut punch. Draft capital combined with talent usually pays off eventually, but it would be nice to see him be more consistently involved this year.

Going pretty late in drafts, might be a good value this year

Certainly wouldn't be the 1st highly hyped guy the fantasy community was just a year early on.

Tough to see a huge jump with Knox still around and the deepened receiver depth chart, but for dynasty I still think he is a good investment at this value point.

Its a lot of bodies, but nobody of any real substance. Kincaid could still absolutely be the top pass catcher on this team. If Kincaid is really good, guys like Knox, Palmer, Moore, Samuel etc. won't stand in his way. There is absolutely room for Kincaid to be a 80+ catch guy in my opinion, its just a matter if he's up for it, and so far that's not happened, but he's the most likely to do it if anyone does in my opinion.

I agree outside of Shakir whom I always thought should be used in a St. Brown-like role. Not sure what happened last year to Kincaid, but he certainly did not build of a decent rookie year like I thought he would. I do agree the receivers they grabbed are mostly WR3/4 types, but with the numerous additions I wonder if they will run less 2TE. Doesn’t make sense to me, but teams do goofy things at times (and new addition Elijah Moore is getting some hype right now - not that it necessarily means anything this time of year). Shakir, Coleman, Palmer, Samuels, Moore - three of those guys seem better suited in the slot position to me.

 

[barackdhouse]

Going pretty late in drafts, might be a good value this year

Certainly wouldn't be the 1st highly hyped guy the fantasy community was just a year early on.

Tough to see a huge jump with Knox still around and the deepened receiver depth chart, but for dynasty I still think he is a good investment at this value point.

yeah even if he produces the same, the cost is so much cheaper now. thinking about redraft and bestball as usual.

 

[Faust]

alex brasky
Brandon Beane said he may not have chosen his words carefully enough when discussing TE Dalton Kincaid earlier this offseason: “I think I was a little over critical. I could have probably done a better job.” Said Kincaid’s struggles last year were more injury-based than anything #Bills #BillsMafia

https://x.com/alexbrasky/status/1933206690918195554?s=61

 

[menobrown]

alex brasky
Brandon Beane said he may not have chosen his words carefully enough when discussing TE Dalton Kincaid earlier this offseason: “I think I was a little over critical. I could have probably done a better job.” Said Kincaid’s struggles last year were more injury-based than anything #Bills #BillsMafia

https://x.com/alexbrasky/status/1933206690918195554?s=61

Can someone remind me of what he said earlier?

 

[a_troll00]

This season he was a top five TE projection. Now, there is no one talking about him at all.

Shakil's ankle situation has got to be worrisome. It may be dogging him all season.

Kincaid could very well be a top target in Buffalo's offense. Is everyone fading him. At his current ADP, he's a must draft IMO.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This season he was a top five TE projection. Now, there is no one talking about him at all.

Shakil's ankle situation has got to be worrisome. It may be dogging him all season.

Kincaid could very well be a top target in Buffalo's offense. Is everyone fading him. At his current ADP, he's a must draft IMO.

Too much Knox but yeah it’s possible.

Palmer is the one I’m quietly gobbling up on the cheap in my dynasty leagues.

 

[FarFromHome]

Don't fall for it.
Dont fall for it.
Don't fall for it.

 

[Faust]

alex brasky
Dalton Kincaid has been a steady target of Josh Allen’s throughout training camp. Great to see that carry over against another team during Friday’s join practice with the #Bears

I would take the over on all of Kincaid’s futures this season. Going to be a big rebound year for him #Bills #BillsMafia

https://x.com/alexbrasky/status/1956384654048809251?s=61

 

[MrSoup]

If he’s still there after I draft K and DEF, then I might think about drafting him.

 

[The Kerminator]

If he’s still there after I draft K and DEF, then I might think about drafting him.

How high do you draft K and DEF?

 

[Instinctive]

Right now I have him at 21% target share. That translates to 118 targets for 82/895/6. I think after I get through all teams, I may go back and adjust that upwards a bit. I have him as the #1 target in Buffalo, and I think that could actually be more targets. My hunch is he was hurt way more than people realize and playing through it constantly last year and is healthy now.

 

[KellysHeroes]

3rd yr break out yr?
I brought him last yr when his stock was falling; still am a little disappointing but holding. Positive Camp news is good

 

[oldmanhawkins]

Right now I have him at 21% target share. That translates to 118 targets for 82/895/6. I think after I get through all teams, I may go back and adjust that upwards a bit. I have him as the #1 target in Buffalo, and I think that could actually be more targets. My hunch is he was hurt way more than people realize and playing through it constantly last year and is healthy now.

He’s an enigma for me. He was 11th among TEs with a 19% target share so 21% isn’t so whacky. And it’s easy to hope that the quality of targets will improve. However, he was 33rd among TEs with only 244 routes run. I’m hoping you are right about the injury, it would certainly explain some things…but I’m concerned there is more to it than that.

 

[MrSoup]

If he’s still there after I draft K and DEF, then I might think about drafting him.

How high do you draft K and DEF?

Usually my last two picks.

 

[FarFromHome]

Last year I reached huge on both my leagues on this dude. It was arguably my biggest whiff, outside of my hard stance that Bucky Irving won't be anything. I went into both my drafts absolutely not drafting Kincaid. I didn't. I just basically had him as a toss in on a trade. I'm back in!!!!

 

[Instinctive]

21% target share
82/895/6

Would be TE7 in my models' output

 

[Deranged Hermit]

21% target share
82/895/6

Would be TE7 in my models' output

I hope so. I got stuck with him in main league's draft last night after someone snaked Warren from me.
Someone has to catch the ball in buffalo.

 

[Payne]

He's worth the pick at his ADP. Potential to be a top 5 TE.

 

[Ilov80s]

He plays with one of the best QBs and on a team with arguably the least impressive pass catchers in the league. So there is opportunity for a lot of targets but I really question how good he really is. I never got the hype on him. He had a real nice breakout season as a 5th year senior. We didn't get any testing on him because he was recovering from a broken bone in his back. He's had PCL sprain in his left knee last year and developed a rare bursitis condition in his right knee. His knee (which one, not sure) has been bothering him this camp as well. I am not sold on this guy being anything but a JAG.

 

[menobrown]

He plays with one of the best QBs and on a team with arguably the least impressive pass catchers in the league. So there is opportunity for a lot of targets but I really question how good he really is. I never got the hype on him. He had a real nice breakout season as a 5th year senior. We didn't get any testing on him because he was recovering from a broken bone in his back. He's had PCL sprain in his left knee last year and developed a rare bursitis condition in his right knee. His knee (which one, not sure) has been bothering him this camp as well. I am not sold on this guy being anything but a JAG.

I think he's a really good receiver to the point I think he could function as a starting slot receiver for the Bills and a lot of teams in the league. He's very skilled in that area and I think the hype is justified in that department.

Problem one is Shakir fills that role.

Problem two is his blocking is a major problem especially since Joe Brady got the reigns and the team went more run heavy. They got Knox to play that role and that makes Kincaid a part time player. Along with that issue is I think the team envisioned a two TE, 12 personnel heavy usage, when they drafted him with Kincaid causing matchup problems in the passing game. Problem is they've not run well out of this formation and Kincaids not really been a matchup problem because most of the time teams just treat him like a receiver.

I got a strong feeling he'll be better then he was last year and at a drastically cheaper cost, one of the largest cost differences for any player from last year and those reasons for improvement are mainly him being healthy and I found Josh Allen's acknowledging wanting to get him more involved noteworthy. But that run he had his rookie year when Knox was out is pretty far from what the level I see him reaching so long as Knox is healthy. He's more of what I consider a backup TE for fantasy, more in that TE 12-15 type of range.

I think he still has a relatively high upside future, but not in this current setup.

 

[Ilov80s]

He plays with one of the best QBs and on a team with arguably the least impressive pass catchers in the league. So there is opportunity for a lot of targets but I really question how good he really is. I never got the hype on him. He had a real nice breakout season as a 5th year senior. We didn't get any testing on him because he was recovering from a broken bone in his back. He's had PCL sprain in his left knee last year and developed a rare bursitis condition in his right knee. His knee (which one, not sure) has been bothering him this camp as well. I am not sold on this guy being anything but a JAG.

I think he's a really good receiver to the point I think he could function as a starting slot receiver for the Bills and a lot of teams in the league. He's very skilled in that area and I think the hype is justified in that department.

Problem one is Shakir fills that role.

Problem two is his blocking is a major problem especially since Joe Brady got the reigns and the team went more run heavy. They got Knox to play that role and that makes Kincaid a part time player. Along with that issue is I think the team envisioned a two TE, 12 personnel heavy usage, when they drafted him with Kincaid causing matchup problems in the passing game. Problem is they've not run well out of this formation and Kincaids not really been a matchup problem because most of the time teams just treat him like a receiver.

I got a strong feeling he'll be better then he was last year and at a drastically cheaper cost, one of the largest cost differences for any player from last year and those reasons for improvement are mainly him being healthy and I found Josh Allen's acknowledging wanting to get him more involved noteworthy. But that run he had his rookie year when Knox was out is pretty far from what the level I see him reaching so long as Knox is healthy. He's more of what I consider a backup TE for fantasy, more in that TE 12-15 type of range.

I think he still has a relatively high upside future, but not in this current setup.

I agree there that he's a good post-hype sleeper type. TE can take awhile to get going but I am not a big fan of his game. Still at the right price, he's certainly worth it.

 

[DonFue]

Josh Allen isn't comfortable throwing over the LBs but in front of the Ss. He may never support a TE1.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Don't fall for it.
Dont fall for it.
Don't fall for it.

I fell for it. Damn me!

I waited WAY too long on TE again and now Dalton is my starter. NOT ideal butt hoping Josh looks his way more this year.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He's worth the pick at his ADP. Potential to be a top 5 TE.

Don't fall for it.
Dont fall for it.
Don't fall for it.

I flip flopped between these two thoughts in virtually every draft this year.

I landed on avoid 100% of my drafts.






100% of my drafts so far…

 

[Smack Tripper]

Just doesn't seem fit in the brady offense

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

I'm not optimistic anything changes. Feels like we're marching towards roster clogger territory, but I've been wrong plenty of times before.

Trying to free up a roster spot, I asked for a '27 late projected 2nd and 3rd. I would have thrown back a 4th or forgotten the 3rd altogether. Received a counter offer of (3) 3rds, which is obnoxious but probably not far value wise from what I was asking. Really comes down to the roster spot at this point. Plucked Fanin for free and I'm not sure that I don't like him almost as well as a stash. RBs like J James and Neal available. Lambert-Smith at WR.

Still like Kincaid more than all of these options. I know it's the season for rookie fever, and I'm not suggesting he's reached zero marginal value over such options. A 3rd has the slightest amount of value in our league. I'm not excited for the '26 class, but some years you can be pleasantly surprised with what falls to you.

Anybody ready to move on for this kind of scrap value?

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

Anybody ready to move on for this kind of scrap value?

I remember Kincaid being referred to as generational talent.

Yeah right!

 

[mjb03003]

Anybody ready to move on for this kind of scrap value?

I would strongly advise against doing that. He’s been a disappointment, bordering on “bust,” but he’s still just 25.

He had 91 targets and 73 receptions as a rookie, and that was with a predictably slow start. Followed that up with 75 targets and just 44 receptions last year in 13 games, but it’s been widely reported that he was playing through some significant injuries and wasn’t getting his usual snap count in many of those games after returning in week 15.

All this is to say there’s still no clear alpha receiver who is going to dominate targets in Buffalo. They will probably continue spreading it around, but Kincaid can be the #2 option and see 90+ targets again, which would likely make him an easy top 10 TE.

How much lower can his value go? Even if he starts slowly this season, he’s still a young, highly drafted TE tied to an elite QB, so he’ll continue to have at least “scrap value.” Better to wait and see if he can show some flashes of who he was as a rookie when he finished as a top-12 TE.

 

[oldmanhawkins]

I think Shakir is another part of the problem. His first two years he was used downfield and then last year he started occupying the part of the field where Kincaid would feast.
I’m not sure this changes as long as Brady is there and the bills are averaging 30+ ppg.
I do think Kincaid will be better than last year as a result of more quality targets from Josh. I just don’t think he’s going to be what we all hoped. At least not this year.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Anybody ready to move on for this kind of scrap value?

I remember Kincaid being referred to as generational talent.

Yeah right!

Not gonna lie. Waldman #1 analyst for steering me into this. I know he still believes in the talent and would count him towards the top of the list of misused / underutilized NFL players. However, I have a feeling he would have said the same thing about Khalil Herbert two years ago. Me waiting for his exodus from the Bears never amounted to anything either. **I know, not anywhere close to the same thing.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Anybody ready to move on for this kind of scrap value?

I would strongly advise against doing that. He’s been a disappointment, bordering on “bust,” but he’s still just 25.

He had 91 targets and 73 receptions as a rookie, and that was with a predictably slow start. Followed that up with 75 targets and just 44 receptions last year in 13 games, but it’s been widely reported that he was playing through some significant injuries and wasn’t getting his usual snap count in many of those games after returning in week 15.

All this is to say there’s still no clear alpha receiver who is going to dominate targets in Buffalo. They will probably continue spreading it around, but Kincaid can be the #2 option and see 90+ targets again, which would likely make him an easy top 10 TE.

How much lower can his value go? Even if he starts slowly this season, he’s still a young, highly drafted TE tied to an elite QB, so he’ll continue to have at least “scrap value.” Better to wait and see if he can show some flashes of who he was as a rookie when he finished as a top-12 TE.

Great post. Can't disagree with anything laid out here.

Aside from holding for a brighter situation, he does bring some level of present-day TE2 upside that's worth something. Not that it's much different from another backup my league has no interest in, Goedert.

Can't promise that if someone says yes to a 2nd, I won't call it quits, but you make a good case here. My career long Goedert hold probably has some effect on my outlook here. Leaguemates once offered 2nds. I said no, because the talent was too good. Nobody will even cough up a 3rd now. I hold because the talent is still too good to drop. Meanwhile, I don't have the roster flexibility to pounce on Nico Collins, Puka, and Kyren Williams when they pop on the wire.

 

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