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TE Isaiah Likely, BAL (1 Viewer)

Agree, but it's hard to stomach going out and getting Likely for his current value (mid 2025 2nd) when he will presumably be on the bench most of the time.
In a non-TE premium league I'd agree but even in a smaller roster FFPC type league would you not sometimes pay a future second for the handcuff RB to your starter if you thought that handcuff would put up for starting numbers if called upon and be within a year or two out from likely having a job all to himself? I would and I really don't see the difference here. He's sort of like a Kendre Miller/Trey Benson of TE's, only he's more proven.

I agree with the sentiment others have expressed about Likely being more valuable if you own Andrews but the same theory I just said applies to me even if I don't own Andrews. Meaning even in smaller FFPC leagues I'm holding handcuff's to starting RB's, like Kendre and Benson, I don't own, and would value some of them as high as future seconds if not more if I think they within a year or two of having a starters role to themselves, which is what I think will go down with Likely.

Won't quote myself or repeat everything but all my thoughts from my post a few above I made in January, post #337, I am standing on and operating my teams on that premise.
Interesting thought I'll need to ponder for a bit. My knee jerk reaction is that MOST of the time, the backup TE to a stud starting TE isn't nearly as good as the starter. Likely seems to be the exception here, I suppose. Good food for thought, though. Thank you.
 
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Isaiah Likely was a monster today at Ravens training camp.

On one play during 11s hurry-up, Lamar threw one that looked like it was definitely going to sail too high. Likely rose up and came down with it like a rebound for a big gain.
 
Dan Graziano: “Likely told me he’s working on learning every position a receiver might need to know in the offense and expects Monken to move him around the formation to maximize his receiving ability.”

It makes sense to keep Likely on the move often. That’s how Monken can take full advantage of his ‘tweener skills.

It’s also how Likely could help the Ravens offset any continued talent deficiency at wide receiver.
 
Dan Graziano: “Likely told me he’s working on learning every position a receiver might need to know in the offense and expects Monken to move him around the formation to maximize his receiving ability.”

It makes sense to keep Likely on the move often. That’s how Monken can take full advantage of his ‘tweener skills.

It’s also how Likely could help the Ravens offset any continued talent deficiency at wide receiver.


@SleeperNFL
.@DanGrazianoESPN says the No. 2 Receiver for the Ravens could be TE Isaiah Likely 👀

"They want me to be able to go everywhere, whether it's in the backfield, in line, in the slot, out wide or whatever…being that chess piece that can move around."

- Isaiah Likely
 
Dan Graziano: “Likely told me he’s working on learning every position a receiver might need to know in the offense and expects Monken to move him around the formation to maximize his receiving ability.”

It makes sense to keep Likely on the move often. That’s how Monken can take full advantage of his ‘tweener skills.

It’s also how Likely could help the Ravens offset any continued talent deficiency at wide receiver.


@SleeperNFL
.@DanGrazianoESPN says the No. 2 Receiver for the Ravens could be TE Isaiah Likely 👀

"They want me to be able to go everywhere, whether it's in the backfield, in line, in the slot, out wide or whatever…being that chess piece that can move around."

- Isaiah Likely
So are you telling me to start Andrews and Likely?
 
Hard to see it actually happening where a TE is actually used as a WR regularly but it sounds nice
 
Dan Graziano: “Likely told me he’s working on learning every position a receiver might need to know in the offense and expects Monken to move him around the formation to maximize his receiving ability.”

It makes sense to keep Likely on the move often. That’s how Monken can take full advantage of his ‘tweener skills.

It’s also how Likely could help the Ravens offset any continued talent deficiency at wide receiver.


@SleeperNFL
.@DanGrazianoESPN says the No. 2 Receiver for the Ravens could be TE Isaiah Likely 👀

"They want me to be able to go everywhere, whether it's in the backfield, in line, in the slot, out wide or whatever…being that chess piece that can move around."

- Isaiah Likely
So are you telling me to start Andrews and Likely?

It will depend upon your league format, scoring rules and how many players are rostered/starting, but both Andrews and Likely are looking promising for being starters in many leagues.

The good news is that the presence of Andrews will keep the ADP of Likely down, and he could end up being a bargain, especially if Andrews misses any time.

It feels to me like the Ravens are keen on running the two-TE offensive scheme at a higher than league average rate.

Belichick would have shown off how devastating it can be if not for Hernandez being a violent thug.
 
Dan Graziano: “Likely told me he’s working on learning every position a receiver might need to know in the offense and expects Monken to move him around the formation to maximize his receiving ability.”

It makes sense to keep Likely on the move often. That’s how Monken can take full advantage of his ‘tweener skills.

It’s also how Likely could help the Ravens offset any continued talent deficiency at wide receiver.


@SleeperNFL
.@DanGrazianoESPN says the No. 2 Receiver for the Ravens could be TE Isaiah Likely 👀

"They want me to be able to go everywhere, whether it's in the backfield, in line, in the slot, out wide or whatever…being that chess piece that can move around."

- Isaiah Likely
So are you telling me to start Andrews and Likely?

It will depend upon your league format, scoring rules and how many players are rostered/starting, but both Andrews and Likely are looking promising for being starters in many leagues.

The good news is that the presence of Andrews will keep the ADP of Likely down, and he could end up being a bargain, especially if Andrews misses any time.

It feels to me like the Ravens are keen on running the two-TE offensive scheme at a higher than league average rate.

Belichick would have shown off how devastating it can be if not for Hernandez being a violent thug.
It was mostly a rhetorical question with a touch of humor. I would think it’s difficult or not desirable to start Andrews and Likely together in most leagues.
 
Likely with some good signs of life with numerous touches tonight. Looks like Baltimore is moving him around and getting him chances.
 
Isaiah Likely caught 9-of-12 targets for 111 yards and a touchdown in the Ravens’ Week 1 loss to the Chiefs.

Putting Mark Andrews on something of a milk carton, Likely was surprisingly the Ravens’ most-targeted pass catcher. Both his nine receptions and 111 yards were new career highs. He entered the evening with just one previous 100-yard effort. Astoundingly, his night was almost much bigger, but an inaccurate Jackson missed him on a back-corner touchdown throw with time running out. L-Jax could then only watch as Likely did corral the game-tying or winning score only to be ruled out of bounds by a shoe tip. For the TD the duo connected on, Jackson escaped the pocket and found a freelancing Likely, who provided a winding 49-yard YAC job. There will be much hand-wringing and consternation over Likely and Andrews’ usage vis a vis each other, but the one thing we know for sure is that Likely needs to be 100 percent rostered ahead of Week 2 against the Raiders. There’s a chance this goes down his best game of the season, but you don’t need us to tell you Likely is looking like a critical part of this offense.
- Rotoworld
I'm very torn on this. The Chiefs have talked up Likely as a Joker chesspiece all preseason, but you wouldn't think it would also accompany a healthy Mark Andrews going 2/14. I can't believe the connection between Lamar and Mark Andrews is dead, but you have to raise your eyes at this performance 👀. Likely just looked so much better and managed to get open and do things after the catch.

I'd kinda probe the Mandrews owner to see if you can panic him into a lowball trade to be honest.

EDIT: After checking some of the snap numbers... Likely breakout may be happening. Holy crap 12 personnel numbers.
 
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So is Andrews a buy low, Likely a sell high, or are they both holds? If he’s a sell, what would you expect in return.
 
So is Andrews a buy low, Likely a sell high, or are they both holds? If he’s a sell, what would you expect in return.
I legit forgot Baltimore pledged to play more 12 personnel. That's going to make Likely much more fantasy viable than he's ever been, and Andrews' stock to take a hit.
 
I'd kinda probe the Mandrews owner to see if you can panic him into a lowball trade to be honest.
I'm the other way... Get your opponents to think you're panic selling, but actually accept the trades because I think he's done finishing a top 10 TE.
 
So is Andrews a buy low, Likely a sell high, or are they both holds? If he’s a sell, what would you expect in return.
Sell Andrews while he still has some value. Flowers/Likely are taking over and you might get someone thinking you're overreacting to one week, even though you're not.
 
Three years in a row of drafting him in my main keeper league has finally paid off. Now I have decisions to make as I have Kincaid, Bowers, and Likely all on the same team.

I loved watching this dude back in his Coastal Carolina days. I knew he had the goods. Getting drafted to sit behind Mark Andrews was painful, but here we are now.
 
Isaiah Likely caught 9-of-12 targets for 111 yards and a touchdown in the Ravens’ Week 1 loss to the Chiefs.

Putting Mark Andrews on something of a milk carton, Likely was surprisingly the Ravens’ most-targeted pass catcher. Both his nine receptions and 111 yards were new career highs. He entered the evening with just one previous 100-yard effort. Astoundingly, his night was almost much bigger, but an inaccurate Jackson missed him on a back-corner touchdown throw with time running out. L-Jax could then only watch as Likely did corral the game-tying or winning score only to be ruled out of bounds by a shoe tip. For the TD the duo connected on, Jackson escaped the pocket and found a freelancing Likely, who provided a winding 49-yard YAC job. There will be much hand-wringing and consternation over Likely and Andrews’ usage vis a vis each other, but the one thing we know for sure is that Likely needs to be 100 percent rostered ahead of Week 2 against the Raiders. There’s a chance this goes down his best game of the season, but you don’t need us to tell you Likely is looking like a critical part of this offense.
- Rotoworld
I'm very torn on this. The Chiefs have talked up Likely as a Joker chesspiece all preseason, but you wouldn't think it would also accompany a healthy Mark Andrews going 2/14. I can't believe the connection between Lamar and Mark Andrews is dead, but you have to raise your eyes at this performance 👀. Likely just looked so much better and managed to get open and do things after the catch.

I'd kinda probe the Mandrews owner to see if you can panic him into a lowball trade to be honest.

EDIT: After checking some of the snap numbers... Likely breakout may be happening. Holy crap 12 personnel numbers.
I think what may be the matter is your assumption that Andrews is healthy. Just because he played doesn’t mean he’s where he needs to be health-wise.

Now, if defenses start planning more for Likely, that could open things up for Andrews. We’ll see.
 
Isaiah Likely caught 9-of-12 targets for 111 yards and a touchdown in the Ravens’ Week 1 loss to the Chiefs.

Putting Mark Andrews on something of a milk carton, Likely was surprisingly the Ravens’ most-targeted pass catcher. Both his nine receptions and 111 yards were new career highs. He entered the evening with just one previous 100-yard effort. Astoundingly, his night was almost much bigger, but an inaccurate Jackson missed him on a back-corner touchdown throw with time running out. L-Jax could then only watch as Likely did corral the game-tying or winning score only to be ruled out of bounds by a shoe tip. For the TD the duo connected on, Jackson escaped the pocket and found a freelancing Likely, who provided a winding 49-yard YAC job. There will be much hand-wringing and consternation over Likely and Andrews’ usage vis a vis each other, but the one thing we know for sure is that Likely needs to be 100 percent rostered ahead of Week 2 against the Raiders. There’s a chance this goes down his best game of the season, but you don’t need us to tell you Likely is looking like a critical part of this offense.
- Rotoworld
I'm very torn on this. The Chiefs have talked up Likely as a Joker chesspiece all preseason, but you wouldn't think it would also accompany a healthy Mark Andrews going 2/14. I can't believe the connection between Lamar and Mark Andrews is dead, but you have to raise your eyes at this performance 👀. Likely just looked so much better and managed to get open and do things after the catch.

I'd kinda probe the Mandrews owner to see if you can panic him into a lowball trade to be honest.

EDIT: After checking some of the snap numbers... Likely breakout may be happening. Holy crap 12 personnel numbers.
I think what may be the matter is your assumption that Andrews is healthy. Just because he played doesn’t mean he’s where he needs to be health-wise.

Now, if defenses start planning more for Likely, that could open things up for Andrews. We’ll see.
Yeah, I think there is something to the idea that Andrews wasn’t fully healthy after his accident and didn’t have a training camp.

That said, Likely looked really good. Has to hurt Andrews’ value somewhat.
 
Isaiah Likely caught 9-of-12 targets for 111 yards and a touchdown in the Ravens’ Week 1 loss to the Chiefs.

Putting Mark Andrews on something of a milk carton, Likely was surprisingly the Ravens’ most-targeted pass catcher. Both his nine receptions and 111 yards were new career highs. He entered the evening with just one previous 100-yard effort. Astoundingly, his night was almost much bigger, but an inaccurate Jackson missed him on a back-corner touchdown throw with time running out. L-Jax could then only watch as Likely did corral the game-tying or winning score only to be ruled out of bounds by a shoe tip. For the TD the duo connected on, Jackson escaped the pocket and found a freelancing Likely, who provided a winding 49-yard YAC job. There will be much hand-wringing and consternation over Likely and Andrews’ usage vis a vis each other, but the one thing we know for sure is that Likely needs to be 100 percent rostered ahead of Week 2 against the Raiders. There’s a chance this goes down his best game of the season, but you don’t need us to tell you Likely is looking like a critical part of this offense.
- Rotoworld
I'm very torn on this. The Chiefs have talked up Likely as a Joker chesspiece all preseason, but you wouldn't think it would also accompany a healthy Mark Andrews going 2/14. I can't believe the connection between Lamar and Mark Andrews is dead, but you have to raise your eyes at this performance 👀. Likely just looked so much better and managed to get open and do things after the catch.

I'd kinda probe the Mandrews owner to see if you can panic him into a lowball trade to be honest.

EDIT: After checking some of the snap numbers... Likely breakout may be happening. Holy crap 12 personnel numbers.
I think what may be the matter is your assumption that Andrews is healthy. Just because he played doesn’t mean he’s where he needs to be health-wise.

Now, if defenses start planning more for Likely, that could open things up for Andrews. We’ll see.
Yeah, I think there is something to the idea that Andrews wasn’t fully healthy after his accident and didn’t have a training camp.

That said, Likely looked really good. Has to hurt Andrews’ value somewhat.
Thin ice there
 
So is Andrews a buy low, Likely a sell high, or are they both holds? If he’s a sell, what would you expect in return.
I legit forgot Baltimore pledged to play more 12 personnel. That's going to make Likely much more fantasy viable than he's ever been, and Andrews' stock to take a hit.
I think Likely would need to string together a couple more games like this one before people will pay for him.

most people feel that Mark Andrews is still the primary target. Not sure what happened tonight. Chiefs seemed to always have him covered. but it could be that hes still not 100%..

either way, Likely is a nice pickup on the off chance that he legitimately breaks out. the talent is there. I always just felt it wasnt gonna happen while Andrews is on the roster. I also noticed Likely lining up as a WR on a handful of plays so clearly they drew up some plays to get him in the game more (which I like)

so here is hoping that Likely is for real.
 
The worst thing you can do in fantasy football is refuse to give up the past.
its prudent to see if this is a one week wonder or a legit thing. Keep in mind KC was likely not expecting this kind of performance from the #2 TE on the team. I highly doubt they gameplanned for this. so to that end they caught KC with their pants down. Defense was stellar otherwise. but clearly unprepared for Likely to do what he did.
 
Sold him for a 3.02 during the rookie draft in a 12 team SF. :doh:

Not TEP so it doesn’t sting as much. Took Rattler, so value TBD, but so far not great, Bob.
 
Drafting in FFPC tomorrow, Te premium, where do you draft Likely?
It’s just so hard to say.

1. You’ll get his week 1 points?
2. If #1 is yes, he might go too high.
4. I expect Andrews to work his way back to form. He’s too good at football to fall off that fast, IMO.

Feels like this game could be an outlier.

Or he could be the legit heir to the TE1 role. It’s impossible to say.
 
Drafting in FFPC tomorrow, Te premium, where do you draft Likely?
It’s just so hard to say.

1. You’ll get his week 1 points?
2. If #1 is yes, he might go too high.
4. I expect Andrews to work his way back to form. He’s too good at football to fall off that fast, IMO.

Feels like this game could be an outlier.

Or he could be the legit heir to the TE1 role. It’s impossible to say.
The latter. Likely looks like a top 5 dynasty asset at TE.
 
As long as Andrews is healthy I don't see how you can trust Likely every week......yet.. But counter to that is that Likely is a better fantasy play than Bateman, so the Ravens give all the targets to Flowers, Andrews, and Likely when Jackson isn't running the ball. Looks like Henry will be TD dependent.
 
As long as Andrews is healthy I don't see how you can trust Likely every week......yet.. But counter to that is that Likely is a better fantasy play than Bateman, so the Ravens give all the targets to Flowers, Andrews, and Likely when Jackson isn't running the ball. Looks like Henry will be TD dependent.
Exactly. It's the classic pre changing of the guard. When u watch film of the two tight ends it's clear who the more dynamic player is. Likely is gonna be a force, but until Andrews is gone sure feels like a boom or bust te2. Imo
 
Andrews and Kelce looked old and slow last night. I'm glad I have zero shares of Andrews.
Likely appears to the best receiving TE on the team and it really doesn't look close.
While I don't disagree, it is early. Andrews may just be getting his feet under him after the accident. One thing I made sure of is that I kept Likely when I traded for Andrews.
 
Andrews and Kelce looked old and slow last night. I'm glad I have zero shares of Andrews.
Likely appears to the best receiving TE on the team and it really doesn't look close.
While I don't disagree, it is early. Andrews may just be getting his feet under him after the accident. One thing I made sure of is that I kept Likely when I traded for Andrews.
Oh I'm sure Andrews will have his moments, but after last night, Likely isn't going to just go away. He was elite last night.
 
Andrews and Kelce looked old and slow last night. I'm glad I have zero shares of Andrews.
Likely appears to the best receiving TE on the team and it really doesn't look close.
I own both and started Andrews last night. I agree that Andrews looked old and was impressed with Likely. This has the feeling of one of those situations where its a different TE each week who shines over the other. I may try to move Andrews if he can string together a couple solid outings.
 
Andrews and Kelce looked old and slow last night. I'm glad I have zero shares of Andrews.
Likely appears to the best receiving TE on the team and it really doesn't look close.
I own both and started Andrews last night. I agree that Andrews looked old and was impressed with Likely. This has the feeling of one of those situations where its a different TE each week who shines over the other. I may try to move Andrews if he can string together a couple solid outings.

Last night was worst case scenario going forward if you own both.
 

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