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Wish someone would have replied by asking "when"?
I'd peg it around 65% in terms of playing time, 40% in terms of fantasy production.
Why would Likely get more playing time? He didn't last year, despite Andrews coming into the season limited, and nowhere near 100%.
Mainly how they ended the season after the bye week into the playoffs but there is a lot more to it.
Don't think it's coachspeak either but just the same Harbaugh could have said nothing and I'd have had the same computations. LIke I said above, it's how they were used last year, in hindsight I think I lowballed Likely on only giving him a 65% chance to play more then Andrews.
As to the bolded comment...... don't believe anything Harbaugh or any Ravens official says unless it's something like "he's ruled out for this week's game". They are notorious liars and the freaking CIA asks Baltimore for hints on how to spread disinformation and keep things in-house
I'm not saying your prediction is wrong, just that I wouldn't base it on anything the Ravens "officially" say.
Probably not but I also think while they play together it's a massive drain on Andrews.
Disagree. The average person with type 1 diabetes doesn't manage their blood sugar or diet nearly as strictly as a professional athlete. I've read about how regimented Andrews is in game and outside of games with regards to his blood sugar. Dude has it on lockdown and has since he was a kid. He's healing nearly as quick as anyone else approaching 30.
I agree with the other poster that it could be a concern as he ages but right now 29-30 is not old for a TE.
He's TD dependent and I think the car crash excuse is way over played and does not take into account that as the season progressed he was still playing less snaps then Likely and and was heading for massive career low marks in targets.
I agree with this and thier ADP is multiple rounds apart so pretty sure this is consensus opinion. Like I said a few posts up, this is bad for both of them, both will have spike weeks which make them better BB players but I don't trust putting either of them in my lineup though if you play no PPR or half a point PPR kind of stuff that does take a little sting out of the low target/catch totals.
One last quick comment on the car crash. I bring it up as he was also rehabbing from his leg/ankle injury as well. The combination of both set him back and Likely filled in well during that time.
I've covered this already but the season started with Andrews playing more snaps then LIkely the first two games and by a sizeable amount. That shifted to Likely as the season went along with flies in the face that Andrew's slow start was solely related to the auto accident. I think the team just made an assessment they needed to get Likely more involved.
Really different players but I would not say Andrews is better. Likely I believe is the better blocker now and offers a lot more YAC ability but agree Andrews is the better pure receiver.
Possible but nothing I'd betting on where Andrews goes in drafts. Again this could be a different convo depending on format but in a 1.5 TEP league I mainly play I don't spend the draft capital on a guy like Andrews hoping for TD's. I need more volume then I expect he's going to get.
He may have played more snaps than Likely early on, but he looked really tentative (by his standards) to me. I think it was the ankle injury more than the car wreck, but that whole narrative around the crash was weird. I thought he looked more assured later in the season.
I agree, he still wasn't 100% the first 4 games or so. He was a decoy out there. Around game 5 he started to get back into shape and was closer to 100%. He missed training camp and preseason due to rehab and the car accident.
Plus, Andrews is only 29 (almost 30).
Likely is a YAC monster, but he just doesn't have the soft hands Andrews has demonstrated year after year. Lamar relies on those hands to get him out of some bad spots.
Like in the
Or maybe like his 80% catch rate in 2024?
Likely's wasn't far behind Andrews'
Unfortunately, not when the season depended on it.
And yet, they didn't trust Likely in that position. Wonder why?
Why do you think that?
My uninformed, non NFL scout opinion is that they (or maybe just Lamar) trust Andrews to make that catch 9 times out of 10 and are not as comfortable with Likely on that type of route.
Probably too winded from leaping to snare the would-be game tying TD, that Andrews ruined with a dropped 2pt.
I don't think it's a matter of discomfort with Likely at all. Of course Jackson trusts Andrews - they became "NFL adults" together and they are best friends. That doesn't mean he (or Baltimore) doesn't trust Likely - he made a ton of huge plays for them last season. They ran a particular play for the two-pointer and it happened to be Andrews on that route (I think Likely caught the TD just before, though my memory is spotty these days).
As someone that has Likely and Andrews in dynasty, I very much welcome this move
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Would be dancing in the streets for people sitting on both of them.
I think it depends on the offer and how comfortable they are with the guys behind Likely. There were rumblings of the Smith trade pre-draft and it took them this long to get it done so I wouldn't count out the Andrews trade.
The first reports I saw of a Jonnu trade was well after the draft ended but regardless these two teams are in totally different places right now.
Agree because of the bolded. Ravens are a Super Bowl contender and they are a better team with Andrews than without him, so why would they move him now? Plus, if he leaves next offseason, the Ravens are in line for a decent comp pick, so unless someone offered at least a 2nd, not enough of a benefit to do the deal now.
Ravens also had 11 draft picks in one of the better TE drafts in years and didn't take a single one. Nor have they drafted any since they took Likely & Kolar in 2022. As you said in another thread, I think it's more probable they resign both Likely and Andrews than deal either at this point. They aren't hurting for cap space either plus have multiple big salaries that could be restructured/extended (Lamar is $51MM base salary alone in 2026.)
If Miami wanted him, I the price would be something like Jaelen Phillips or Bradley Chubb plus. Something that potentially makes a difference THIS SEASON. I don't see Andrews being dealt for future picks unless its a 1.
No GM who isn't ready to get fired is trading a first round pick for Andrews.
If you thought he "might" be traded I'd not hang an L on yourself, only if you were going around thinking or saying it was sure to happen. It was always possible and no one with the Ravens denied it. That neither he or Goedert got dealt was surprising, and disappointing to me from a fantasy angle, especially when I heard the ask was not much for either of them.
I'm not sure on Kolar but just looking at their words and to some extent their actions it sounds like they have every intention of extending Likely. I've long said it's a bit of a delicate process however, with personality and locker room dynamics, to extend Likely while Andrews plays out this deal. Some vets take exception to that, Andrews has not come across that way at all but just the same I can see Ravens wanting to hold off on extending Likely till the season is over with the tag, or Andrews, as options if contract talks with Likely get out of hand.
Baltimore, Andrews, and Likely are all walking a tightrope here. I believe the TE franchise tag salary is around $15 million. I think Likely has the biggest hammer at this point.
