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TE Sam LaPorta, DET (1 Viewer)
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skillz
Footballguy
Got a long TD on a gadget play. Was his only target of the game in what was an offensive clinic by the Lions offense. Overall his performance didn’t inspire much confidence going forward that he will be more involved in the offensive game plan - particularly since they are 4-1 doing what they’re already doing.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
He's emerging as the poster child against early TE for a generation of drafters
I have Kmet on the bench, will probably try to sell Sam on his name value
I have Kmet on the bench, will probably try to sell Sam on his name value
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
I had picked him up after he was actually dropped in my 10 teamer with short benches. I was stoked, felt after the BYE he'd be fully healthy and a big part of the gameplan. He might still be but they're playing so well generally, he's barely involved moving the ball. That one play was a God send but otherwise...1 whole target. Just not really needed but will it change?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I thought Pitts cornered the market on that?
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
that's fair but saw a lot of Rd 1/Rd 2 Sam this year, I thought pitts maxed as a Rd 3 guy The concept of Rd 1/2 TE's was dubious anyway but in the heyday of "locks" like Tony G and Kelce you could see it (in their prime).
When you have a guy underperforming to this degree and there isn't much of an arrow pointing up in terms of his usage based on an evolved offense, its a team killer.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
I'm never drafting a TE early again as I usually don't but thought I would change it up this year. Used my 3rd pick on him. Could've grabbed D.Smith or Metcalf but picked LaPorta instead thinking I got a steal.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
It's a week-to-week what have you done for me lately killer. People can't seem to get past that, even dynasty players. It's part of the game.
The concept of Rd 1/2 TE's was dubious anyway but in the heyday of "locks" like Tony G and Kelce you could see it (in their prime).
When you have a guy underperforming to this degree and there isn't much of an arrow pointing up in terms of his usage based on an evolved offense, its a team killer.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
True for the one off variance. But you also gain information week to week, Jamo is not going anywhere and he's eating into LaPorta's pie.It's a week-to-week what have you done for me lately killer. People can't seem to get past that, even dynasty players. It's part of the game.
The concept of Rd 1/2 TE's was dubious anyway but in the heyday of "locks" like Tony G and Kelce you could see it (in their prime).
When you have a guy underperforming to this degree and there isn't much of an arrow pointing up in terms of his usage based on an evolved offense, its a team killer.
No one is saying cut Laporta but if you drafted today, where would you take him versus September 1st?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Next week he will probably be on top of the world and in good graces.True for the one off variance. But you also gain information week to week, Jamo is not going anywhere and he's eating into LaPorta's pie.It's a week-to-week what have you done for me lately killer. People can't seem to get past that, even dynasty players. It's part of the game.
The concept of Rd 1/2 TE's was dubious anyway but in the heyday of "locks" like Tony G and Kelce you could see it (in their prime).
When you have a guy underperforming to this degree and there isn't much of an arrow pointing up in terms of his usage based on an evolved offense, its a team killer.
No one is saying cut Laporta but if you drafted today, where would you take him versus September 1st?
Next week he will probably be on top of the world and in good graces.True for the one off variance. But you also gain information week to week, Jamo is not going anywhere and he's eating into LaPorta's pie.It's a week-to-week what have you done for me lately killer. People can't seem to get past that, even dynasty players. It's part of the game.
The concept of Rd 1/2 TE's was dubious anyway but in the heyday of "locks" like Tony G and Kelce you could see it (in their prime).
When you have a guy underperforming to this degree and there isn't much of an arrow pointing up in terms of his usage based on an evolved offense, its a team killer.
No one is saying cut Laporta but if you drafted today, where would you take him versus September 1st?
I sat him for Kraft this week. Still managed to win, but it is super frustrating with LaPorta. Against a Vikings team that can put up points (especially sans Hutch in DET), I am considering plugging him back in.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
The lack of targets for the entire year so far is...........weird
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The emergence of Jameson Williams has probably contributed to that. Not to mention the running game.
I get that, but 15 targets in 5 games?
Plus he has caught 13 of them and averaging 15 yards a catch, so not like he is dropping passes or catching 5 yard dump offs. Guy is really good. Very perplexing
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Like I said, I think Jameson Williams has a lot to do with that. With ARSB being the top guy and Williams emerging, and a top running game, there are only so many balls to go around.
Surprising when Tim Patrick AND Kalif Raymond out target LaPorta as well.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Maybe he slept with Campbell's wife......jk
hamsterdam
Footballguy
game script wasn't good but it was pretty discouraging seeing him get 1 target coming out of the bye. thought maybe they'd make an effort to get him more involved. not buying the injury stuff, he looked pretty good on that 50 yard td.
with the cooper trade news i'm going to put in a decent bid on njoku and he'll be in my lineup this weekend if i'm able to snag him.
with the cooper trade news i'm going to put in a decent bid on njoku and he'll be in my lineup this weekend if i'm able to snag him.
Well, that was in the back of my mind or possibly Goffs wife
Having watched the entire last couple Lions games, it seems odd that he is so uninvolved after the rookie year he had. He looked damn good on his one target though
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Told the whole world this was going to happen. He was being drafted waaaaay too early given the impending emergence of Jameson Williams that was being drummed up all offseason long.
If you go early TE it has to be someone with a relatively clear target domination situation. I am sort of surprised people thought this guy would repeat last year's numbers with Amon-Ra Gibbs AND Jameson, along with Campbell's love for giving Monty 20+ carries a game (who can blame him?). But, I was very wrong about Kincaid who I did think was going to dominate targets. I also took a fair amount of McBride and Kelce who I strongly preferred to LaPorta (who I considered nearly undraftable).
My favorite earlish picks were Ferguson Bowers and Engram.
Anyway I'll leave now.
If you go early TE it has to be someone with a relatively clear target domination situation. I am sort of surprised people thought this guy would repeat last year's numbers with Amon-Ra Gibbs AND Jameson, along with Campbell's love for giving Monty 20+ carries a game (who can blame him?). But, I was very wrong about Kincaid who I did think was going to dominate targets. I also took a fair amount of McBride and Kelce who I strongly preferred to LaPorta (who I considered nearly undraftable).
My favorite earlish picks were Ferguson Bowers and Engram.
Anyway I'll leave now.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
What I tried very hard to point out in the Williams thread, but to largely deaf ears, was that the logic being used to avoid Jameson was that there were too many mouths to feed. Well, by that EXACT SAME LOGIC, if Jameson was going to take an incredibly predictable next step forward and was going to be more involved as had been CONSISTENTLY been drummed up all offseason long, then doesn't that mean there are too many mouths to feed for the others as well? Why did that logic apply to Williams but not LaPorta? Williams had flashed plenty. I always thought it was more likely that Williams would take a step forward that would be perhaps big enough to make him viable and perhaps not, but that would mathematically demand touches from elsewhere and LaPorta was the obvious one for someone consistently coming off the board as TE1 and at the 1/2 turn in TEP redrafts.
To suggest that Williams wasn't going to take that next step and eat more targets always felt like more of a longshot take IMO. The market disagreed. Long time to go still and to clarify on my own point from earlier - LaPorta is still going to have mad production and could still win leagues come playoff time.
To suggest that Williams wasn't going to take that next step and eat more targets always felt like more of a longshot take IMO. The market disagreed. Long time to go still and to clarify on my own point from earlier - LaPorta is still going to have mad production and could still win leagues come playoff time.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Had an awful wide open drop last game, but still seems be in the muddied mix
LaPorta had 1 catch on 1 target last game. Did the statisticians miss a target/drop for him?
dipandglide
Footballguy
It's weird seeing Jamo's thread bumped and not Laporta's. 1/25 on two targets!?!? YIKES
BladeRunner
Footballguy
His usage is simply absurd at this point.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
One of the guys I was upset that I didn’t get after all my drafts were over. Now not so much
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I mean, they score a ton and win, so it's not like they are "mis-using" him or something.
It just sucks for fantasy owners
It just sucks for fantasy owners
Stat Correction
Footballguy
Are you suggesting that the injury from last month is contributing to his current drought.....or was this a mis-post?
OU#1
Footballguy
This is from Week 4. The Article talks about the Lions being 2-1….
OU#1
Footballguy
I think that’s an old post and somehow Faust thought it was recent news
massraider
Footballguy
People didn't consider that Goff would be throwing less as well. He's not chucking it every game.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
That idea was discussed a *lot* in the Williams thread, and for good reason, but it never made sense why that same logic wasn't being applied to LaPorta at all.
GreenNGold
Footballguy
I think it's mostly the running game. Williams isn't getting any targets either.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Wish someone could convince me that Jamo being out means a resurrection. Or that Jamo will now suck without his PEDs
OU#1
Footballguy
I’m sure LaPorta will get Jameson lone target, which is a 50% increase in targets. Nothing to sneeze at
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Dan Campbell said they’ll monitor day to day. Doesn’t look like a 4 week injury but he might miss the Jags game.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Not practicing for the 3rd straight day.
All their other weapons are healthy; I expect him to be declared out on the 4pm practice report.
All their other weapons are healthy; I expect him to be declared out on the 4pm practice report.
OUT...bump all other receivers
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
I'd personally bump the RBs, they could beat the Jags up and down just running the ball all day.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Walk through only today so the Practice Report is an estimate.
Laporta was a FP and is trending toward returning this week.
Laporta was a FP and is trending toward returning this week.
FairWarning
Footballguy
Wonder how much he actually plays with the Thanksgiving game coming up.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He’s good to go, shouldn’t be any limitations. Generally they’re either go or no go, never known Campbell to worry about pitch counts. If someone’s not ready to go all out he’ll give him another week off.
4 games in 18 days. Last week & this week they’ve started the week off with a walkthrough instead of practice. Campbell said these guys have played together enough he’s comfortable focusing more on recovery by switching the schedule up to keep everyone fresh.
