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Joe T
Footballguy
I don't see how we are up a rook here. But at this point, it may be all we have.
I hate to give up our A pawn too. I almost think continuing to push the A pawn is the only chance we have at winning.
After Kd8 (I assume that is what you meant), he'll take the rook with his bishop. After all the trading, it looks like we wind up with a bishop and two pawns and white has a bishop and three pawns. A net loss of three pawns for us.
Never even considered that. We'll lose the ability to protect the a pawn, but it looks like that's our only immediate loss. Looking like the best option to me.
Joe T
Footballguy
I went through it. It's not great either. I think we potentially end up trading our rook for his bishop, but save our A pawn.
Never even considered that. We'll lose the ability to protect the a pawn, but it looks like that's our only immediate loss. Looking like the best option to me.
To me, we are still in this / slightly ahead as long as the A pawn is alive! Keep hope alive!
Sand
Footballguy
LOL - guess we kinda blew that. I just haven't been able to keep up with this in the last little bit. Work has gone nuts.
Joe T
Footballguy
I disagree. I already posted the line above.
OOO
Bxc6
Rxd8+ Kc7
Yes we are in trouble, but there is not a good move here. I'm not in favor of giving up our a pawn as I stated earlier. I think it is the only path we have left to win.
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Joe T
Footballguy
Joe T
Footballguy
bump - here is the line. a pawn is alive and well. Bishops are in strong position. Just need to get our rook in play and we are good to go.
Joe T
Footballguy
My very simple theory is that our a pawn is one of our most valuable pieces on the board. More valuable than a R to a B trade.
He'd undoubtedly go exf6 before taking the a pawn, but this isn't too bad of an outcome.
I'm back to Rd8 looking the least bad. I think we only lose two pawns, including the a pawn. Can anyone see a worse outcome?
pizzatyme
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pizzatyme
Footballguy
Black
As expected, they moved Bxc6.
This is a major tipping point as we need to consider BxB as I believe Joe T suggested earlier.
If we push f6 or f5, they will take and then we move the Rook allowing them to take the A pawn.
Look it over to decide.
I have a strong lean towards BxB.
As expected, they moved Bxc6.
This is a major tipping point as we need to consider BxB as I believe Joe T suggested earlier.
If we push f6 or f5, they will take and then we move the Rook allowing them to take the A pawn.
Look it over to decide.
I have a strong lean towards BxB.
Black -
Looking at it:
Bxc6 Rxd8+
Ke7 Rc7
Bb5+ Ke1
Bb4+ c3
Ba5 Ra1
f6 exf6
Kxe6
There may be some better moves in there, but looking at it, it looks like we wind up with a rook, two bishops and three pawns vs two rooks, a bishop, and two pawns. Not totally disastrous.
I worry that he's going to be able to overwhelm our defense on the pawn once he can get both rooks in the a column.
Looking at it:
Bxc6 Rxd8+
Ke7 Rc7
Bb5+ Ke1
Bb4+ c3
Ba5 Ra1
f6 exf6
Kxe6
There may be some better moves in there, but looking at it, it looks like we wind up with a rook, two bishops and three pawns vs two rooks, a bishop, and two pawns. Not totally disastrous.
I worry that he's going to be able to overwhelm our defense on the pawn once he can get both rooks in the a column.
With this line, if he wants to trade pieces at the end of it, I think we get down to a bishop and two pawns for us vs a bishop and three pawns for him. But I think we can take his extra pawn before he can defend it.
The question is what does he do after:
f6 exf6 (or Bxa4, in which case, jump straight to Bb6)
Rf7 Be5
Bb6
It looks like he either has to go Bxd7, and trigger a massive piece exchange, and I think we could eventually get to stalemate, or Bb3, and let us take the f6 pawn and open things up for our rook. Either one looks like a significant improvement to our current position.
I think I'd have a slight lean towards f6 and give up on the a pawn, but it is close.
White
They're going to try to get the knight to c4 to join the attack. Initial thought is Bb3 to remove the pin on the bishop, and allow us to go Qc2 if they move the knight into the c column.
Still pretty defensive, but I just can't see anywhere to mount an attack right now.
They're going to try to get the knight to c4 to join the attack. Initial thought is Bb3 to remove the pin on the bishop, and allow us to go Qc2 if they move the knight into the c column.
Still pretty defensive, but I just can't see anywhere to mount an attack right now.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
I agree. Only other option I see is maybe Qb3.
Fellas appears to be down to you and me. I'm Ok with BxB if you think it is preferable.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
I second this. Anyone with a different line?
White
Do you see what he is trying to set up? The only semi-immediate threat that I see is him moving Nb7 and Nc5, getting another attacker on the bishop and the a4 pawn. And frankly, I don't see any way that we can stop that attack with the way our pieces are currently tied up.
I'm somewhat tempted to go:
Kh3 Nb7
g5 fxg5
hxg5 hxg5
Kg5 Nc5
Bc4 Nxa4
Kxg5
We wind up down a pawn, but we at least open up the g+h columns to attack his king
Do you see what he is trying to set up? The only semi-immediate threat that I see is him moving Nb7 and Nc5, getting another attacker on the bishop and the a4 pawn. And frankly, I don't see any way that we can stop that attack with the way our pieces are currently tied up.
I'm somewhat tempted to go:
Kh3 Nb7
g5 fxg5
hxg5 hxg5
Kg5 Nc5
Bc4 Nxa4
Kxg5
We wind up down a pawn, but we at least open up the g+h columns to attack his king
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